Oldbear83 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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4th and Inches said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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whiterock said:

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the faulty assumption of neverTrumperism is that they will have a future home in the GOP after Trump is gone.
Could not be more incorrect.

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The will still have a place within the Republican Party ( Where else they going to go ? ) ......but obviously won't carry as much influence as they do currently .

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Not sure I want to be in the Republican Party. I'll just let you boys grind it into a minority party.

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If it was a clear minority party, your participation wouldn't matter one way or the other, now, would it? Instead, you have a golden opportunity for virtue posture to……"I am better than them,; their countenance and demeanor offends me, consequences be damned."

By denying support to a competitive coalition (leading in the polls for POTUS and Congress) which is largely in agreement with one's policy aims, one undermines one's policy aims and raises questions about one's value as a teammate.

Trump is a practical man who has positive relationships with people who heavily criticized him in the past. Good politicians do that. I chose to sit at table at Thursday lunch so I could visit with a man I don't particularly like and with whom I have rarely been in the same campaign, on two occasions opposed in very spirited contests. We visited. We caught up. He Introduced me to a couple of people I hadn't met before. I answered some questions he had for me. Why did I do that? I might need his help one day. And we might have to work together on a grand endeavor. If all I did was focus on the things I don't like about him (a couple of which are character things I coach my kids to avoid) and refused to engage with him at all, I don't have any positive impact on anything. I harm him, me, and the party. Does he reciprocate? A little. Not as much. It's the way he is. That's ok. An imbalanced detente is better than a grudge. In fact, I once chose to help him in a campaign that I didn't really care much about just to demonstrate to him that I didn't hold grudges

Don't think there is a reward waiting for you if we lose either of the next two elections. You'll be blamed for it. Including by people who feel almost exactly like you do about the party at the moment but decide that there are bigger issues at stake than the waxing and waning of coalitions and their captains.

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I have worked with and voted for folks I consider a little dodgy before.

What if the man you don't particularly like committed crimes and asked you to lie for him? Would advancing your policy goals mean he gets away with anything, including things that violate your deeply held principles?

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What crimes has he been convicted of after 7 years of non-stop accusations and investigations? He's a crook but when NY investigates his books with a fine-toothed comb the only indictment is the bookkeeper for not properly expensing his own benefits? Legendary Bob Mueller and 16 angry Democrats (one of them crying on stage at HRC's election night party) could not find anything?

at what point is it put up or shut up for his accusers? At what point does the lack of ANYTHING illegal on the man begin to cast more questions about the nature of his accusers rather than the man himself? You are quite far out on the limb here….

The public at large has reached the proper conclusion on these questions. They are correct.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/public_surveys/biden_s_gestapo_trump_raid_hurts_voter_trust_in_fbi

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Okay, but what about Oso's question? Does advancing your policy goals mean your guy gets away with anything?

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First joke we learned at Langley: "Admit nothing, deny everything, and make counter-accusations."

Until you're comfortable playing a game governed by those rules, do not get involved in politics.

But take heart! You show good dexterity with those rules, combined with rare gifts of indefatigability.

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You are putting on a clinic using those tactics

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not nearly so much as the neverTrumpers.

*(Trump's) fiercest critics really accuse him of breaking norms, but what we're seeing here, and what we've seen constantly over time, is that they do that exact thing,"

Only worse, as they are abusing state power and societal institutions to to it.


https://www.foxnews.com/media/trumps-fiercest-critics-guilty-very-violation-norms-accuse-jared-kushner?intcmp=tw_fnc

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Dem 101: accuse others of what you do..

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Iron Law of Woke Projection

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You I adopted the Langley tactics

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Corrected again

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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4th and Inches said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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whiterock said:

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the faulty assumption of neverTrumperism is that they will have a future home in the GOP after Trump is gone.
Could not be more incorrect.

---

The will still have a place within the Republican Party ( Where else they going to go ? ) ......but obviously won't carry as much influence as they do currently .

---

Not sure I want to be in the Republican Party. I'll just let you boys grind it into a minority party.

---

If it was a clear minority party, your participation wouldn't matter one way or the other, now, would it? Instead, you have a golden opportunity for virtue posture to……"I am better than them,; their countenance and demeanor offends me, consequences be damned."

By denying support to a competitive coalition (leading in the polls for POTUS and Congress) which is largely in agreement with one's policy aims, one undermines one's policy aims and raises questions about one's value as a teammate.

Trump is a practical man who has positive relationships with people who heavily criticized him in the past. Good politicians do that. I chose to sit at table at Thursday lunch so I could visit with a man I don't particularly like and with whom I have rarely been in the same campaign, on two occasions opposed in very spirited contests. We visited. We caught up. He Introduced me to a couple of people I hadn't met before. I answered some questions he had for me. Why did I do that? I might need his help one day. And we might have to work together on a grand endeavor. If all I did was focus on the things I don't like about him (a couple of which are character things I coach my kids to avoid) and refused to engage with him at all, I don't have any positive impact on anything. I harm him, me, and the party. Does he reciprocate? A little. Not as much. It's the way he is. That's ok. An imbalanced detente is better than a grudge. In fact, I once chose to help him in a campaign that I didn't really care much about just to demonstrate to him that I didn't hold grudges

Don't think there is a reward waiting for you if we lose either of the next two elections. You'll be blamed for it. Including by people who feel almost exactly like you do about the party at the moment but decide that there are bigger issues at stake than the waxing and waning of coalitions and their captains.

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I have worked with and voted for folks I consider a little dodgy before.

What if the man you don't particularly like committed crimes and asked you to lie for him? Would advancing your policy goals mean he gets away with anything, including things that violate your deeply held principles?

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What crimes has he been convicted of after 7 years of non-stop accusations and investigations? He's a crook but when NY investigates his books with a fine-toothed comb the only indictment is the bookkeeper for not properly expensing his own benefits? Legendary Bob Mueller and 16 angry Democrats (one of them crying on stage at HRC's election night party) could not find anything?

at what point is it put up or shut up for his accusers? At what point does the lack of ANYTHING illegal on the man begin to cast more questions about the nature of his accusers rather than the man himself? You are quite far out on the limb here….

The public at large has reached the proper conclusion on these questions. They are correct.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/public_surveys/biden_s_gestapo_trump_raid_hurts_voter_trust_in_fbi

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Okay, but what about Oso's question? Does advancing your policy goals mean your guy gets away with anything?

---

First joke we learned at Langley: "Admit nothing, deny everything, and make counter-accusations."

Until you're comfortable playing a game governed by those rules, do not get involved in politics.

But take heart! You show good dexterity with those rules, combined with rare gifts of indefatigability.

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You are putting on a clinic using those tactics

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not nearly so much as the neverTrumpers.

*(Trump's) fiercest critics really accuse him of breaking norms, but what we're seeing here, and what we've seen constantly over time, is that they do that exact thing,"

Only worse, as they are abusing state power and societal institutions to to it.


https://www.foxnews.com/media/trumps-fiercest-critics-guilty-very-violation-norms-accuse-jared-kushner?intcmp=tw_fnc

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Dem 101: accuse others of what you do..

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Iron Law of Woke Projection

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You adopt the Langley tactics

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Not really. Nothing clandestine going on. Completely above board. Just pointing out the the people who say "Trump lies" have an unerringly consistent record of lying about him. And also usurping state power to harass and defeat him.

The left literally does what they accuse him of, and some purportedly principled people pretend that such is virtuous. Simply amazing thing to watch.

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What if a candidate you don't particularly like committed crimes and asked you to lie for him? Would advancing your policy goals mean he gets away with anything, including things that violate your deeply held principles?

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Oldbear83 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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4th and Inches said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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whiterock said:

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the faulty assumption of neverTrumperism is that they will have a future home in the GOP after Trump is gone.
Could not be more incorrect.

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The will still have a place within the Republican Party ( Where else they going to go ? ) ......but obviously won't carry as much influence as they do currently .

---

Not sure I want to be in the Republican Party. I'll just let you boys grind it into a minority party.

---

If it was a clear minority party, your participation wouldn't matter one way or the other, now, would it? Instead, you have a golden opportunity for virtue posture to%85%85"I am better than them,; their countenance and demeanor offends me, consequences be damned."

By denying support to a competitive coalition (leading in the polls for POTUS and Congress) which is largely in agreement with one's policy aims, one undermines one's policy aims and raises questions about one's value as a teammate.

Trump is a practical man who has positive relationships with people who heavily criticized him in the past. Good politicians do that. I chose to sit at table at Thursday lunch so I could visit with a man I don't particularly like and with whom I have rarely been in the same campaign, on two occasions opposed in very spirited contests. We visited. We caught up. He Introduced me to a couple of people I hadn't met before. I answered some questions he had for me. Why did I do that? I might need his help one day. And we might have to work together on a grand endeavor. If all I did was focus on the things I don't like about him (a couple of which are character things I coach my kids to avoid) and refused to engage with him at all, I don't have any positive impact on anything. I harm him, me, and the party. Does he reciprocate? A little. Not as much. It's the way he is. That's ok. An imbalanced detente is better than a grudge. In fact, I once chose to help him in a campaign that I didn't really care much about just to demonstrate to him that I didn't hold grudges

Don't think there is a reward waiting for you if we lose either of the next two elections. You'll be blamed for it. Including by people who feel almost exactly like you do about the party at the moment but decide that there are bigger issues at stake than the waxing and waning of coalitions and their captains.

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I have worked with and voted for folks I consider a little dodgy before.

What if the man you don't particularly like committed crimes and asked you to lie for him? Would advancing your policy goals mean he gets away with anything, including things that violate your deeply held principles?

---

What crimes has he been convicted of after 7 years of non-stop accusations and investigations? He's a crook but when NY investigates his books with a fine-toothed comb the only indictment is the bookkeeper for not properly expensing his own benefits? Legendary Bob Mueller and 16 angry Democrats (one of them crying on stage at HRC's election night party) could not find anything?

at what point is it put up or shut up for his accusers? At what point does the lack of ANYTHING illegal on the man begin to cast more questions about the nature of his accusers rather than the man himself? You are quite far out on the limb here%85.

The public at large has reached the proper conclusion on these questions. They are correct.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/public_surveys/biden_s_gestapo_trump_raid_hurts_voter_trust_in_fbi

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Okay, but what about Oso's question? Does advancing your policy goals mean your guy gets away with anything?

---

First joke we learned at Langley: "Admit nothing, deny everything, and make counter-accusations."

Until you're comfortable playing a game governed by those rules, do not get involved in politics.

But take heart! You show good dexterity with those rules, combined with rare gifts of indefatigability.

---

You are putting on a clinic using those tactics

---

not nearly so much as the neverTrumpers.

*(Trump's) fiercest critics really accuse him of breaking norms, but what we're seeing here, and what we've seen constantly over time, is that they do that exact thing,"

Only worse, as they are abusing state power and societal institutions to to it.


https://www.foxnews.com/media/trumps-fiercest-critics-guilty-very-violation-norms-accuse-jared-kushner?intcmp=tw_fnc

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Dem 101: accuse others of what you do..

---

Iron Law of Woke Projection

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You adopt the Langley tactics

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Not really. Nothing clandestine going on. Completely above board. Just pointing out the the people who say "Trump lies" have an unerringly consistent record of lying about him. And also usurping state power to harass and defeat him.

The left literally does what they accuse him of, and some purportedly principled people pretend that such is virtuous. Simply amazing thing to watch.

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What if a candidate you don't particularly like committed crimes and asked you to lie for him? Would advancing your policy goals mean he gets away with anything, including things that violate your deeply held principles?

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... annnnnd we're back to haters assuming guilt.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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4th and Inches said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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whiterock said:

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the faulty assumption of neverTrumperism is that they will have a future home in the GOP after Trump is gone.
Could not be more incorrect.

---

The will still have a place within the Republican Party ( Where else they going to go ? ) ......but obviously won't carry as much influence as they do currently .

---

Not sure I want to be in the Republican Party. I'll just let you boys grind it into a minority party.

---

If it was a clear minority party, your participation wouldn't matter one way or the other, now, would it? Instead, you have a golden opportunity for virtue posture to%85%85"I am better than them,; their countenance and demeanor offends me, consequences be damned."

By denying support to a competitive coalition (leading in the polls for POTUS and Congress) which is largely in agreement with one's policy aims, one undermines one's policy aims and raises questions about one's value as a teammate.

Trump is a practical man who has positive relationships with people who heavily criticized him in the past. Good politicians do that. I chose to sit at table at Thursday lunch so I could visit with a man I don't particularly like and with whom I have rarely been in the same campaign, on two occasions opposed in very spirited contests. We visited. We caught up. He Introduced me to a couple of people I hadn't met before. I answered some questions he had for me. Why did I do that? I might need his help one day. And we might have to work together on a grand endeavor. If all I did was focus on the things I don't like about him (a couple of which are character things I coach my kids to avoid) and refused to engage with him at all, I don't have any positive impact on anything. I harm him, me, and the party. Does he reciprocate? A little. Not as much. It's the way he is. That's ok. An imbalanced detente is better than a grudge. In fact, I once chose to help him in a campaign that I didn't really care much about just to demonstrate to him that I didn't hold grudges

Don't think there is a reward waiting for you if we lose either of the next two elections. You'll be blamed for it. Including by people who feel almost exactly like you do about the party at the moment but decide that there are bigger issues at stake than the waxing and waning of coalitions and their captains.

---

I have worked with and voted for folks I consider a little dodgy before.

What if the man you don't particularly like committed crimes and asked you to lie for him? Would advancing your policy goals mean he gets away with anything, including things that violate your deeply held principles?

---

What crimes has he been convicted of after 7 years of non-stop accusations and investigations? He's a crook but when NY investigates his books with a fine-toothed comb the only indictment is the bookkeeper for not properly expensing his own benefits? Legendary Bob Mueller and 16 angry Democrats (one of them crying on stage at HRC's election night party) could not find anything?

at what point is it put up or shut up for his accusers? At what point does the lack of ANYTHING illegal on the man begin to cast more questions about the nature of his accusers rather than the man himself? You are quite far out on the limb here%85.

The public at large has reached the proper conclusion on these questions. They are correct.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/public_surveys/biden_s_gestapo_trump_raid_hurts_voter_trust_in_fbi

---

Okay, but what about Oso's question? Does advancing your policy goals mean your guy gets away with anything?

---

First joke we learned at Langley: "Admit nothing, deny everything, and make counter-accusations."

Until you're comfortable playing a game governed by those rules, do not get involved in politics.

But take heart! You show good dexterity with those rules, combined with rare gifts of indefatigability.

---

You are putting on a clinic using those tactics

---

not nearly so much as the neverTrumpers.

*(Trump's) fiercest critics really accuse him of breaking norms, but what we're seeing here, and what we've seen constantly over time, is that they do that exact thing,"

Only worse, as they are abusing state power and societal institutions to to it.


https://www.foxnews.com/media/trumps-fiercest-critics-guilty-very-violation-norms-accuse-jared-kushner?intcmp=tw_fnc

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Dem 101: accuse others of what you do..

---

Iron Law of Woke Projection

---

You adopt the Langley tactics

---

Not really. Nothing clandestine going on. Completely above board. Just pointing out the the people who say "Trump lies" have an unerringly consistent record of lying about him. And also usurping state power to harass and defeat him.

The left literally does what they accuse him of, and some purportedly principled people pretend that such is virtuous. Simply amazing thing to watch.

---

What if a candidate you don't particularly like committed crimes and asked you to lie for him? Would advancing your policy goals mean he gets away with anything, including things that violate your deeply held principles?

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... annnnnd we're back to haters assuming guilt.

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Annnnnd we're back to evaders pretending not to understand hypotheticals.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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4th and Inches said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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whiterock said:

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the faulty assumption of neverTrumperism is that they will have a future home in the GOP after Trump is gone.
Could not be more incorrect.

---

The will still have a place within the Republican Party ( Where else they going to go ? ) ......but obviously won't carry as much influence as they do currently .

---

Not sure I want to be in the Republican Party. I'll just let you boys grind it into a minority party.

---

If it was a clear minority party, your participation wouldn't matter one way or the other, now, would it? Instead, you have a golden opportunity for virtue posture to%85%85"I am better than them,; their countenance and demeanor offends me, consequences be damned."

By denying support to a competitive coalition (leading in the polls for POTUS and Congress) which is largely in agreement with one's policy aims, one undermines one's policy aims and raises questions about one's value as a teammate.

Trump is a practical man who has positive relationships with people who heavily criticized him in the past. Good politicians do that. I chose to sit at table at Thursday lunch so I could visit with a man I don't particularly like and with whom I have rarely been in the same campaign, on two occasions opposed in very spirited contests. We visited. We caught up. He Introduced me to a couple of people I hadn't met before. I answered some questions he had for me. Why did I do that? I might need his help one day. And we might have to work together on a grand endeavor. If all I did was focus on the things I don't like about him (a couple of which are character things I coach my kids to avoid) and refused to engage with him at all, I don't have any positive impact on anything. I harm him, me, and the party. Does he reciprocate? A little. Not as much. It's the way he is. That's ok. An imbalanced detente is better than a grudge. In fact, I once chose to help him in a campaign that I didn't really care much about just to demonstrate to him that I didn't hold grudges

Don't think there is a reward waiting for you if we lose either of the next two elections. You'll be blamed for it. Including by people who feel almost exactly like you do about the party at the moment but decide that there are bigger issues at stake than the waxing and waning of coalitions and their captains.

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I have worked with and voted for folks I consider a little dodgy before.

What if the man you don't particularly like committed crimes and asked you to lie for him? Would advancing your policy goals mean he gets away with anything, including things that violate your deeply held principles?

---

What crimes has he been convicted of after 7 years of non-stop accusations and investigations? He's a crook but when NY investigates his books with a fine-toothed comb the only indictment is the bookkeeper for not properly expensing his own benefits? Legendary Bob Mueller and 16 angry Democrats (one of them crying on stage at HRC's election night party) could not find anything?

at what point is it put up or shut up for his accusers? At what point does the lack of ANYTHING illegal on the man begin to cast more questions about the nature of his accusers rather than the man himself? You are quite far out on the limb here%85.

The public at large has reached the proper conclusion on these questions. They are correct.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/public_surveys/biden_s_gestapo_trump_raid_hurts_voter_trust_in_fbi

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Okay, but what about Oso's question? Does advancing your policy goals mean your guy gets away with anything?

---

First joke we learned at Langley: "Admit nothing, deny everything, and make counter-accusations."

Until you're comfortable playing a game governed by those rules, do not get involved in politics.

But take heart! You show good dexterity with those rules, combined with rare gifts of indefatigability.

---

You are putting on a clinic using those tactics

---

not nearly so much as the neverTrumpers.

*(Trump's) fiercest critics really accuse him of breaking norms, but what we're seeing here, and what we've seen constantly over time, is that they do that exact thing,"

Only worse, as they are abusing state power and societal institutions to to it.


https://www.foxnews.com/media/trumps-fiercest-critics-guilty-very-violation-norms-accuse-jared-kushner?intcmp=tw_fnc

---

Dem 101: accuse others of what you do..

---

Iron Law of Woke Projection

---

You adopt the Langley tactics

---

Not really. Nothing clandestine going on. Completely above board. Just pointing out the the people who say "Trump lies" have an unerringly consistent record of lying about him. And also usurping state power to harass and defeat him.

The left literally does what they accuse him of, and some purportedly principled people pretend that such is virtuous. Simply amazing thing to watch.

---

What if a candidate you don't particularly like committed crimes and asked you to lie for him? Would advancing your policy goals mean he gets away with anything, including things that violate your deeply held principles?

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... annnnnd we're back to haters assuming guilt.

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Annnnnd we're back to evaders pretending not to understand hypotheticals.

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More like Sam and Oso abandoning principles.

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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4th and Inches said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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whiterock said:

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the faulty assumption of neverTrumperism is that they will have a future home in the GOP after Trump is gone. %A0
Could not be more incorrect.

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The will still have a place within the Republican Party ( Where else they going to go ? ) ......but obviously won't carry as much influence as they do currently .

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Not sure I want to be in the Republican Party. %A0I'll just let you boys grind it into a minority party.

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If it was a clear minority party, your participation wouldn't matter one way or the other, now, would it? %A0Instead, you have a golden opportunity for virtue posture to%85%85"I am better than them,; their countenance and demeanor offends me, consequences be damned."

By denying support to a competitive coalition (leading in the polls for POTUS and Congress) which is largely in agreement with one's policy aims, one undermines one's policy aims and raises questions about one's value as a teammate.

Trump is a practical man who has positive relationships with people who heavily criticized him in the past. %A0 %A0Good politicians do that. %A0 I chose to sit at table at Thursday lunch so I could visit with a man I don't particularly like and with whom I have rarely been in the same campaign, on two occasions opposed in very spirited contests. %A0 We visited. %A0We caught up. %A0He Introduced me to a couple of people I hadn't met before. %A0I answered some questions he had for me. %A0Why did I do that? %A0I might need his help one day. %A0And we might have to work together on a grand endeavor. %A0 If all I did was focus on the things I don't like about him (a couple of which are character things I coach my kids to avoid) and refused to engage with him at all, I don't have any positive impact on anything. %A0 I harm him, me, and the party. %A0Does he reciprocate? A little. %A0Not as much. %A0It's the way he is. %A0That's ok. %A0An imbalanced detente is better than a grudge. %A0In fact, I once chose to help him in a campaign that I didn't really care much about just to demonstrate to him that I didn't hold grudges

Don't think there is a reward waiting for you if we lose either of the next two elections. %A0 You'll be blamed for it. Including by people who feel almost exactly like you do about the party at the moment but decide that there are bigger issues at stake than the waxing and waning of coalitions and their captains.

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I have worked with and voted for folks I consider a little dodgy before.

What if the man you don't particularly like committed crimes and asked you to lie for him? %A0Would advancing your policy goals mean he gets away with anything, including things that violate your deeply held principles?

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What crimes has he been convicted of after 7 years of non-stop accusations and investigations? %A0He's a crook but when NY investigates his books with a fine-toothed comb the only indictment is the bookkeeper for not properly expensing his own benefits? %A0Legendary Bob Mueller and 16 angry Democrats (one of them crying on stage at HRC's election night party) could not find anything? %A0

at what point is it put up or shut up for his accusers? %A0 At what point does the lack of ANYTHING illegal on the man begin to cast more questions about the nature of his accusers rather than the man himself? %A0You are quite far out on the limb here%85.

The public at large has reached the proper conclusion on these questions. %A0 They are correct. %A0

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/public_surveys/biden_s_gestapo_trump_raid_hurts_voter_trust_in_fbi

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Okay, but what about Oso's question? Does advancing your policy goals mean your guy gets away with anything?

---

First joke we learned at Langley: "Admit nothing, deny everything, and make counter-accusations."

Until you're comfortable playing a game governed by those rules, do not get involved in politics. %A0

But take heart! %A0You show good dexterity with those rules, combined with rare gifts of indefatigability.

---

You are putting on a clinic using those tactics

---

not nearly so much as the neverTrumpers.

*(Trump's) fiercest critics really accuse him of breaking norms, but what we're seeing here, and what we've seen constantly over time, is that they do that exact thing,"

Only worse, as they are abusing state power and societal institutions to to it.


https://www.foxnews.com/media/trumps-fiercest-critics-guilty-very-violation-norms-accuse-jared-kushner?intcmp=tw_fnc

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Dem 101: accuse others of what you do..

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Iron Law of Woke Projection

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You adopt the Langley tactics

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Not really.

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Really.

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whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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4th and Inches said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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whiterock said:

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the faulty assumption of neverTrumperism is that they will have a future home in the GOP after Trump is gone. %A0
Could not be more incorrect.

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The will still have a place within the Republican Party ( Where else they going to go ? ) ......but obviously won't carry as much influence as they do currently .

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Not sure I want to be in the Republican Party. %A0I'll just let you boys grind it into a minority party.

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If it was a clear minority party, your participation wouldn't matter one way or the other, now, would it? %A0Instead, you have a golden opportunity for virtue posture to%85%85"I am better than them,; their countenance and demeanor offends me, consequences be damned."

By denying support to a competitive coalition (leading in the polls for POTUS and Congress) which is largely in agreement with one's policy aims, one undermines one's policy aims and raises questions about one's value as a teammate.

Trump is a practical man who has positive relationships with people who heavily criticized him in the past. %A0 %A0Good politicians do that. %A0 I chose to sit at table at Thursday lunch so I could visit with a man I don't particularly like and with whom I have rarely been in the same campaign, on two occasions opposed in very spirited contests. %A0 We visited. %A0We caught up. %A0He Introduced me to a couple of people I hadn't met before. %A0I answered some questions he had for me. %A0Why did I do that? %A0I might need his help one day. %A0And we might have to work together on a grand endeavor. %A0 If all I did was focus on the things I don't like about him (a couple of which are character things I coach my kids to avoid) and refused to engage with him at all, I don't have any positive impact on anything. %A0 I harm him, me, and the party. %A0Does he reciprocate? A little. %A0Not as much. %A0It's the way he is. %A0That's ok. %A0An imbalanced detente is better than a grudge. %A0In fact, I once chose to help him in a campaign that I didn't really care much about just to demonstrate to him that I didn't hold grudges

Don't think there is a reward waiting for you if we lose either of the next two elections. %A0 You'll be blamed for it. Including by people who feel almost exactly like you do about the party at the moment but decide that there are bigger issues at stake than the waxing and waning of coalitions and their captains.

---

I have worked with and voted for folks I consider a little dodgy before.

What if the man you don't particularly like committed crimes and asked you to lie for him? %A0Would advancing your policy goals mean he gets away with anything, including things that violate your deeply held principles?

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What crimes has he been convicted of after 7 years of non-stop accusations and investigations? %A0He's a crook but when NY investigates his books with a fine-toothed comb the only indictment is the bookkeeper for not properly expensing his own benefits? %A0Legendary Bob Mueller and 16 angry Democrats (one of them crying on stage at HRC's election night party) could not find anything? %A0

at what point is it put up or shut up for his accusers? %A0 At what point does the lack of ANYTHING illegal on the man begin to cast more questions about the nature of his accusers rather than the man himself? %A0You are quite far out on the limb here%85.

The public at large has reached the proper conclusion on these questions. %A0 They are correct. %A0

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/public_surveys/biden_s_gestapo_trump_raid_hurts_voter_trust_in_fbi

---

Okay, but what about Oso's question? Does advancing your policy goals mean your guy gets away with anything?

---

First joke we learned at Langley: "Admit nothing, deny everything, and make counter-accusations."

Until you're comfortable playing a game governed by those rules, do not get involved in politics. %A0

But take heart! %A0You show good dexterity with those rules, combined with rare gifts of indefatigability.

---

You are putting on a clinic using those tactics

---

not nearly so much as the neverTrumpers.

*(Trump's) fiercest critics really accuse him of breaking norms, but what we're seeing here, and what we've seen constantly over time, is that they do that exact thing,"

Only worse, as they are abusing state power and societal institutions to to it.


https://www.foxnews.com/media/trumps-fiercest-critics-guilty-very-violation-norms-accuse-jared-kushner?intcmp=tw_fnc

---

Dem 101: accuse others of what you do..

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Iron Law of Woke Projection

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You adopt the Langley tactics

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Not really.

---

Really.

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High praise from you!

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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4th and Inches said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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whiterock said:

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the faulty assumption of neverTrumperism is that they will have a future home in the GOP after Trump is gone. %A0
Could not be more incorrect.

---

The will still have a place within the Republican Party ( Where else they going to go ? ) ......but obviously won't carry as much influence as they do currently .

---

Not sure I want to be in the Republican Party. %A0I'll just let you boys grind it into a minority party.

---

If it was a clear minority party, your participation wouldn't matter one way or the other, now, would it? %A0Instead, you have a golden opportunity for virtue posture to%85%85"I am better than them,; their countenance and demeanor offends me, consequences be damned."

By denying support to a competitive coalition (leading in the polls for POTUS and Congress) which is largely in agreement with one's policy aims, one undermines one's policy aims and raises questions about one's value as a teammate.

Trump is a practical man who has positive relationships with people who heavily criticized him in the past. %A0 %A0Good politicians do that. %A0 I chose to sit at table at Thursday lunch so I could visit with a man I don't particularly like and with whom I have rarely been in the same campaign, on two occasions opposed in very spirited contests. %A0 We visited. %A0We caught up. %A0He Introduced me to a couple of people I hadn't met before. %A0I answered some questions he had for me. %A0Why did I do that? %A0I might need his help one day. %A0And we might have to work together on a grand endeavor. %A0 If all I did was focus on the things I don't like about him (a couple of which are character things I coach my kids to avoid) and refused to engage with him at all, I don't have any positive impact on anything. %A0 I harm him, me, and the party. %A0Does he reciprocate? A little. %A0Not as much. %A0It's the way he is. %A0That's ok. %A0An imbalanced detente is better than a grudge. %A0In fact, I once chose to help him in a campaign that I didn't really care much about just to demonstrate to him that I didn't hold grudges

Don't think there is a reward waiting for you if we lose either of the next two elections. %A0 You'll be blamed for it. Including by people who feel almost exactly like you do about the party at the moment but decide that there are bigger issues at stake than the waxing and waning of coalitions and their captains.

---

I have worked with and voted for folks I consider a little dodgy before.

What if the man you don't particularly like committed crimes and asked you to lie for him? %A0Would advancing your policy goals mean he gets away with anything, including things that violate your deeply held principles?

---

What crimes has he been convicted of after 7 years of non-stop accusations and investigations? %A0He's a crook but when NY investigates his books with a fine-toothed comb the only indictment is the bookkeeper for not properly expensing his own benefits? %A0Legendary Bob Mueller and 16 angry Democrats (one of them crying on stage at HRC's election night party) could not find anything? %A0

at what point is it put up or shut up for his accusers? %A0 At what point does the lack of ANYTHING illegal on the man begin to cast more questions about the nature of his accusers rather than the man himself? %A0You are quite far out on the limb here%85.

The public at large has reached the proper conclusion on these questions. %A0 They are correct. %A0

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/public_surveys/biden_s_gestapo_trump_raid_hurts_voter_trust_in_fbi

---

Okay, but what about Oso's question? Does advancing your policy goals mean your guy gets away with anything?

---

First joke we learned at Langley: "Admit nothing, deny everything, and make counter-accusations."

Until you're comfortable playing a game governed by those rules, do not get involved in politics. %A0

But take heart! %A0You show good dexterity with those rules, combined with rare gifts of indefatigability.

---

You are putting on a clinic using those tactics

---

not nearly so much as the neverTrumpers.

*(Trump's) fiercest critics really accuse him of breaking norms, but what we're seeing here, and what we've seen constantly over time, is that they do that exact thing,"

Only worse, as they are abusing state power and societal institutions to to it.


https://www.foxnews.com/media/trumps-fiercest-critics-guilty-very-violation-norms-accuse-jared-kushner?intcmp=tw_fnc

---

Dem 101: accuse others of what you do..

---

Iron Law of Woke Projection

---

You adopt the Langley tactics

---

Not really.

---

Really.

---

High praise from you!

---

Enough of the Oldbear tactics honesty. About Oso's question?

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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4th and Inches said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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whiterock said:

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the faulty assumption of neverTrumperism is that they will have a future home in the GOP after Trump is gone. %A0
Could not be more incorrect.

---

The will still have a place within the Republican Party ( Where else they going to go ? ) ......but obviously won't carry as much influence as they do currently .

---

Not sure I want to be in the Republican Party. %A0I'll just let you boys grind it into a minority party.

---

If it was a clear minority party, your participation wouldn't matter one way or the other, now, would it? %A0Instead, you have a golden opportunity for virtue posture to%85%85"I am better than them,; their countenance and demeanor offends me, consequences be damned."

By denying support to a competitive coalition (leading in the polls for POTUS and Congress) which is largely in agreement with one's policy aims, one undermines one's policy aims and raises questions about one's value as a teammate.

Trump is a practical man who has positive relationships with people who heavily criticized him in the past. %A0 %A0Good politicians do that. %A0 I chose to sit at table at Thursday lunch so I could visit with a man I don't particularly like and with whom I have rarely been in the same campaign, on two occasions opposed in very spirited contests. %A0 We visited. %A0We caught up. %A0He Introduced me to a couple of people I hadn't met before. %A0I answered some questions he had for me. %A0Why did I do that? %A0I might need his help one day. %A0And we might have to work together on a grand endeavor. %A0 If all I did was focus on the things I don't like about him (a couple of which are character things I coach my kids to avoid) and refused to engage with him at all, I don't have any positive impact on anything. %A0 I harm him, me, and the party. %A0Does he reciprocate? A little. %A0Not as much. %A0It's the way he is. %A0That's ok. %A0An imbalanced detente is better than a grudge. %A0In fact, I once chose to help him in a campaign that I didn't really care much about just to demonstrate to him that I didn't hold grudges

Don't think there is a reward waiting for you if we lose either of the next two elections. %A0 You'll be blamed for it. Including by people who feel almost exactly like you do about the party at the moment but decide that there are bigger issues at stake than the waxing and waning of coalitions and their captains.

---

I have worked with and voted for folks I consider a little dodgy before.

What if the man you don't particularly like committed crimes and asked you to lie for him? %A0Would advancing your policy goals mean he gets away with anything, including things that violate your deeply held principles?

---

What crimes has he been convicted of after 7 years of non-stop accusations and investigations? %A0He's a crook but when NY investigates his books with a fine-toothed comb the only indictment is the bookkeeper for not properly expensing his own benefits? %A0Legendary Bob Mueller and 16 angry Democrats (one of them crying on stage at HRC's election night party) could not find anything? %A0

at what point is it put up or shut up for his accusers? %A0 At what point does the lack of ANYTHING illegal on the man begin to cast more questions about the nature of his accusers rather than the man himself? %A0You are quite far out on the limb here%85.

The public at large has reached the proper conclusion on these questions. %A0 They are correct. %A0

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/public_surveys/biden_s_gestapo_trump_raid_hurts_voter_trust_in_fbi

---

Okay, but what about Oso's question? Does advancing your policy goals mean your guy gets away with anything?

---

First joke we learned at Langley: "Admit nothing, deny everything, and make counter-accusations."

Until you're comfortable playing a game governed by those rules, do not get involved in politics. %A0

But take heart! %A0You show good dexterity with those rules, combined with rare gifts of indefatigability.

---

You are putting on a clinic using those tactics

---

not nearly so much as the neverTrumpers.

*(Trump's) fiercest critics really accuse him of breaking norms, but what we're seeing here, and what we've seen constantly over time, is that they do that exact thing,"

Only worse, as they are abusing state power and societal institutions to to it.


https://www.foxnews.com/media/trumps-fiercest-critics-guilty-very-violation-norms-accuse-jared-kushner?intcmp=tw_fnc

---

Dem 101: accuse others of what you do..

---

Iron Law of Woke Projection

---

You adopt the Langley tactics

---

Not really.

---

Really.

---

High praise from you!

---

Enough of the Oldbear tactics. About Oso's question?

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whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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4th and Inches said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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whiterock said:

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the faulty assumption of neverTrumperism is that they will have a future home in the GOP after Trump is gone. %A0
Could not be more incorrect.

---

The will still have a place within the Republican Party ( Where else they going to go ? ) ......but obviously won't carry as much influence as they do currently .

---

Not sure I want to be in the Republican Party. %A0I'll just let you boys grind it into a minority party.

---

If it was a clear minority party, your participation wouldn't matter one way or the other, now, would it? %A0Instead, you have a golden opportunity for virtue posture to%85%85"I am better than them,; their countenance and demeanor offends me, consequences be damned."

By denying support to a competitive coalition (leading in the polls for POTUS and Congress) which is largely in agreement with one's policy aims, one undermines one's policy aims and raises questions about one's value as a teammate.

Trump is a practical man who has positive relationships with people who heavily criticized him in the past. %A0 %A0Good politicians do that. %A0 I chose to sit at table at Thursday lunch so I could visit with a man I don't particularly like and with whom I have rarely been in the same campaign, on two occasions opposed in very spirited contests. %A0 We visited. %A0We caught up. %A0He Introduced me to a couple of people I hadn't met before. %A0I answered some questions he had for me. %A0Why did I do that? %A0I might need his help one day. %A0And we might have to work together on a grand endeavor. %A0 If all I did was focus on the things I don't like about him (a couple of which are character things I coach my kids to avoid) and refused to engage with him at all, I don't have any positive impact on anything. %A0 I harm him, me, and the party. %A0Does he reciprocate? A little. %A0Not as much. %A0It's the way he is. %A0That's ok. %A0An imbalanced detente is better than a grudge. %A0In fact, I once chose to help him in a campaign that I didn't really care much about just to demonstrate to him that I didn't hold grudges

Don't think there is a reward waiting for you if we lose either of the next two elections. %A0 You'll be blamed for it. Including by people who feel almost exactly like you do about the party at the moment but decide that there are bigger issues at stake than the waxing and waning of coalitions and their captains.

---

I have worked with and voted for folks I consider a little dodgy before.

What if the man you don't particularly like committed crimes and asked you to lie for him? %A0Would advancing your policy goals mean he gets away with anything, including things that violate your deeply held principles?

---

What crimes has he been convicted of after 7 years of non-stop accusations and investigations? %A0He's a crook but when NY investigates his books with a fine-toothed comb the only indictment is the bookkeeper for not properly expensing his own benefits? %A0Legendary Bob Mueller and 16 angry Democrats (one of them crying on stage at HRC's election night party) could not find anything? %A0

at what point is it put up or shut up for his accusers? %A0 At what point does the lack of ANYTHING illegal on the man begin to cast more questions about the nature of his accusers rather than the man himself? %A0You are quite far out on the limb here%85.

The public at large has reached the proper conclusion on these questions. %A0 They are correct. %A0

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/public_surveys/biden_s_gestapo_trump_raid_hurts_voter_trust_in_fbi

---

Okay, but what about Oso's question? Does advancing your policy goals mean your guy gets away with anything?

---

First joke we learned at Langley: "Admit nothing, deny everything, and make counter-accusations."

Until you're comfortable playing a game governed by those rules, do not get involved in politics. %A0

But take heart! %A0You show good dexterity with those rules, combined with rare gifts of indefatigability.

---

You are putting on a clinic using those tactics

---

not nearly so much as the neverTrumpers.

*(Trump's) fiercest critics really accuse him of breaking norms, but what we're seeing here, and what we've seen constantly over time, is that they do that exact thing,"

Only worse, as they are abusing state power and societal institutions to to it.


https://www.foxnews.com/media/trumps-fiercest-critics-guilty-very-violation-norms-accuse-jared-kushner?intcmp=tw_fnc

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Dem 101: accuse others of what you do..

---

Iron Law of Woke Projection

---

You adopt the Langley tactics

---

Not really.

---

Really.

---

High praise from you!

---

Enough of the Oldbear tactics. About Oso's question?

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You don't answer questions, so why should I have to? (even though I did). You style yourself as a statesman, so go ahead. Lead. Set the example. Answer my questions first. Then I will reciprocate. If you are honest and true, no harm will come to you. But you go first.

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Sam Lowry said:

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First joke we learned at Langley: "Admit nothing, deny everything, and make counter-accusations."

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Until you're comfortable playing a game governed by those rules, do not get involved in politics. %A0

But take heart! %A0You show good dexterity with those rules, combined with rare gifts of indefatigability.

---

You are putting on a clinic using those tactics

---

not nearly so much as the neverTrumpers.

*(Trump's) fiercest critics really accuse him of breaking norms, but what we're seeing here, and what we've seen constantly over time, is that they do that exact thing,"

Only worse, as they are abusing state power and societal institutions to to it.


https://www.foxnews.com/media/trumps-fiercest-critics-guilty-very-violation-norms-accuse-jared-kushner?intcmp=tw_fnc

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Dem 101: accuse others of what you do..

---

Iron Law of Woke Projection

---

You adopt the Langley tactics

---

Not really.

---

Really.

---

High praise from you!

---

Enough of the Oldbear tactics. About Oso's question?

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You don't answer questions, so why should I have to? (even though I did). You style yourself as a statesman, so go ahead. Lead. Set the example. Answer my questions first. Then I will reciprocate. If you are honest and true, no harm will come to you. But you go first.

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Gladly. Which ones did I not answer?

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Oldbear83 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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4th and Inches said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canada2017 said:

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whiterock said:

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the faulty assumption of neverTrumperism is that they will have a future home in the GOP after Trump is gone.
Could not be more incorrect.

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The will still have a place within the Republican Party ( Where else they going to go ? ) ......but obviously won't carry as much influence as they do currently .

---

Not sure I want to be in the Republican Party. I'll just let you boys grind it into a minority party.

---

If it was a clear minority party, your participation wouldn't matter one way or the other, now, would it? Instead, you have a golden opportunity for virtue posture to……"I am better than them,; their countenance and demeanor offends me, consequences be damned."

By denying support to a competitive coalition (leading in the polls for POTUS and Congress) which is largely in agreement with one's policy aims, one undermines one's policy aims and raises questions about one's value as a teammate.

Trump is a practical man who has positive relationships with people who heavily criticized him in the past. Good politicians do that. I chose to sit at table at Thursday lunch so I could visit with a man I don't particularly like and with whom I have rarely been in the same campaign, on two occasions opposed in very spirited contests. We visited. We caught up. He Introduced me to a couple of people I hadn't met before. I answered some questions he had for me. Why did I do that? I might need his help one day. And we might have to work together on a grand endeavor. If all I did was focus on the things I don't like about him (a couple of which are character things I coach my kids to avoid) and refused to engage with him at all, I don't have any positive impact on anything. I harm him, me, and the party. Does he reciprocate? A little. Not as much. It's the way he is. That's ok. An imbalanced detente is better than a grudge. In fact, I once chose to help him in a campaign that I didn't really care much about just to demonstrate to him that I didn't hold grudges

Don't think there is a reward waiting for you if we lose either of the next two elections. You'll be blamed for it. Including by people who feel almost exactly like you do about the party at the moment but decide that there are bigger issues at stake than the waxing and waning of coalitions and their captains.

---

I have worked with and voted for folks I consider a little dodgy before.

What if the man you don't particularly like committed crimes and asked you to lie for him? Would advancing your policy goals mean he gets away with anything, including things that violate your deeply held principles?

---

What crimes has he been convicted of after 7 years of non-stop accusations and investigations? He's a crook but when NY investigates his books with a fine-toothed comb the only indictment is the bookkeeper for not properly expensing his own benefits? Legendary Bob Mueller and 16 angry Democrats (one of them crying on stage at HRC's election night party) could not find anything?

at what point is it put up or shut up for his accusers? At what point does the lack of ANYTHING illegal on the man begin to cast more questions about the nature of his accusers rather than the man himself? You are quite far out on the limb here….

The public at large has reached the proper conclusion on these questions. They are correct.

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/public_surveys/biden_s_gestapo_trump_raid_hurts_voter_trust_in_fbi

---

Okay, but what about Oso's question? Does advancing your policy goals mean your guy gets away with anything?

---

First joke we learned at Langley: "Admit nothing, deny everything, and make counter-accusations."

Until you're comfortable playing a game governed by those rules, do not get involved in politics.

But take heart! You show good dexterity with those rules, combined with rare gifts of indefatigability.

---

You are putting on a clinic using those tactics

---

not nearly so much as the neverTrumpers.

*(Trump's) fiercest critics really accuse him of breaking norms, but what we're seeing here, and what we've seen constantly over time, is that they do that exact thing,"

Only worse, as they are abusing state power and societal institutions to to it.


https://www.foxnews.com/media/trumps-fiercest-critics-guilty-very-violation-norms-accuse-jared-kushner?intcmp=tw_fnc

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Dem 101: accuse others of what you do..

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Iron Law of Woke Projection

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You adopt the Langley tactics

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Not really. Nothing clandestine going on. Completely above board. Just pointing out the the people who say "Trump lies" have an unerringly consistent record of lying about him. And also usurping state power to harass and defeat him.

The left literally does what they accuse him of, and some purportedly principled people pretend that such is virtuous. Simply amazing thing to watch.

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What if a candidate you don't particularly like committed crimes and asked you to lie for him? Would advancing your policy goals mean he gets away with anything, including things that violate your deeply held principles?

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... annnnnd we're back to haters assuming guilt.

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whiterock said:

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neverTrumpism is a highly emotional affliction.

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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neverTrumpism is a highly emotional affliction.

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Funny, I was thinking that applied to the Dear Leader cultists ignoring facts

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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neverTrumpism is a highly emotional affliction.

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Funny, I was thinking that applied to the Dear Leader cultists ignoring facts

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If you were paying attention to facts, you'd quietly vote for the man.

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whiterock said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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First joke we learned at Langley: "Admit nothing, deny everything, and make counter-accusations."

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Until you're comfortable playing a game governed by those rules, do not get involved in politics. %A0

But take heart! %A0You show good dexterity with those rules, combined with rare gifts of indefatigability.

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You are putting on a clinic using those tactics

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not nearly so much as the neverTrumpers.

*(Trump's) fiercest critics really accuse him of breaking norms, but what we're seeing here, and what we've seen constantly over time, is that they do that exact thing,"

Only worse, as they are abusing state power and societal institutions to to it.


https://www.foxnews.com/media/trumps-fiercest-critics-guilty-very-violation-norms-accuse-jared-kushner?intcmp=tw_fnc

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Dem 101: accuse others of what you do..

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Iron Law of Woke Projection

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You adopt the Langley tactics

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Not really.

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Really.

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High praise from you!

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Enough of the Oldbear tactics. About Oso's question?

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You don't answer questions, so why should I have to? (even though I did). You style yourself as a statesman, so go ahead. Lead. Set the example. Answer my questions first. Then I will reciprocate. If you are honest and true, no harm will come to you. But you go first.

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Gladly. Which ones did I not answer?

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There you go again, asking a question instead of answering one.

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Osodecentx said:

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neverTrumpism is a highly emotional affliction.

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Funny, I was thinking that applied to the Dear Leader cultists ignoring facts

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If you were paying attention to facts, you'd quietly vote for the man.

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I was fooled twice

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He Hate Me said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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neverTrumpism is a highly emotional affliction.

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Funny, I was thinking that applied to the Dear Leader cultists ignoring facts

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If you were paying attention to facts, you'd quietly vote for the man.

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I was fooled twice

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More than that. Don't flatter yourself.

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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neverTrumpism is a highly emotional affliction.

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Funny, I was thinking that applied to the Dear Leader cultists ignoring facts

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If you were paying attention to facts, you'd quietly vote for the man.

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I was fooled twice

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More than that. Don't flatter yourself.

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You're right. The difference between us is I realize it

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He Hate Me said:

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Osodecentx said:

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He Hate Me said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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neverTrumpism is a highly emotional affliction.

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Funny, I was thinking that applied to the Dear Leader cultists ignoring facts

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If you were paying attention to facts, you'd quietly vote for the man.

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I was fooled twice

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More than that. Don't flatter yourself.

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You're right. The difference between us is I realize it

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No, I realize you have been fooled a lot also. That is one of the things we have in common.

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Osodecentx said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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neverTrumpism is a highly emotional affliction.

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Funny, I was thinking that applied to the Dear Leader cultists ignoring facts

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If you were paying attention to facts, you'd quietly vote for the man.

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I was fooled twice

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Oldbear83 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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neverTrumpism is a highly emotional affliction.

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Funny, I was thinking that applied to the Dear Leader cultists ignoring facts

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If you were paying attention to facts, you'd quietly vote for the man.

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I was fooled twice

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We don't care about your failed romances ...

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Osodecentx said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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neverTrumpism is a highly emotional affliction.

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Funny, I was thinking that applied to the Dear Leader cultists ignoring facts

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If you were paying attention to facts, you'd quietly vote for the man.

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I was fooled twice

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whiterock said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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neverTrumpism is a highly emotional affliction.

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Funny, I was thinking that applied to the Dear Leader cultists ignoring facts

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If you were paying attention to facts, you'd quietly vote for the man.

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I was fooled twice

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Don't be foolish. No Republican POTUS in your lifetime delivered more campaign promises than Trump.

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Osodecentx said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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neverTrumpism is a highly emotional affliction.

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Funny, I was thinking that applied to the Dear Leader cultists ignoring facts

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If you were paying attention to facts, you'd quietly vote for the man.

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I was fooled twice

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Don't be foolish. No Republican POTUS in your lifetime delivered more campaign promises than Trump.

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You don't know how old I am

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I'll answer for him. Yes.

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