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Waco1947
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D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.
It is interesting to me that the Progressive Left/ Climate Change fanatics believe they have the ability to stop a hurricane if they throw enough money at it. These people actually believe they are God.

By and large, they actually do believe that when you consider that "climate change" is for all intents and purposes a religion for many of these indoctrinated and duped cultist believers who are otherwise atheists and agnostics. If you fall into the atheist/agnostic category then you virtually have to believe that humankind is the highest form of being and therefore humankind becomes "god" to you. It then becomes a lot easier to assign "god like capabilities" to human beings - such as the ability to actually alter the climate. It's complete fantasy and nonsense of course, but a whole lot easier to believe if you first believe there is no higher power beyond human beings.
These are red herrings. Make your case for God's over physics


Make your case for your definition of love, whatever that happens to be. You have yet to provide a definition of love.
I have made my case. Jesus on the cross -- self sacrificing on behalf od others and we, too. are called to that same self sacrificing love (Take up your daily and follow me)
Now make your case for God's power over physics. I believe you are having a hard time because your referent is the Bible and you know that is a circular argument. Where in science to you find God's power over physics.
Waco1947 ,la
Waco1947
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Your conservative brothers on this bulletin board have only insults and straw men. You stay engaged at a more civil level. Thank you
Waco1947 ,la
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D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

D. C. Bear said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.


What is a "literalist?" I don't want to answer your question is it was not intended for me.
A literalist believes the God of the Bible believes that can create or stop a hurricane. Science believes that idea is nonsensical


Science says the idea of god in general is nonsensical. So why do you purport to believe in that which science says is nonsensical?


Science says no such thing, and can say no such thing and still be science.
I am using 47's own reasoning and view of the world. He believes science disproves the existence of the supernatural. By extension, that would disprove the existence of the God he purports to believe in.

In short, there is a reason my post was directed to him and not you.
I believe God is spiritual as in love, prayer, communion, fellowship of disciples who share common life together and seek to be faithful. The supernatural is hocus pocus but God is real in the spiritual world as we follow Jesus.


Where is your proof?

I'll make it easy for you. There is no proof so, where is your evidence?
My proof is the witness of faith in the OT and the NT.


The witness of the OT and NT is that God intervened directly and powerfully in the physical world in ways that were, by definition, supernatural. You don't get to ignore what the Bible says while claiming that it supports your position, because it most assuredly does not.

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30 Then Elijah said to all the people, "Come near to me." And all the people came near to him. And he repaired the altar of the Lord that had been ythrown down. 31 Elijah took twelve stones, according to the number of the tribes of the sons of Jacob, to whom the word of the Lord came, saying, z"Israel shall be your name," 32 and with the stones he built an altar in the name of the Lord. And he made a trench about the altar, as great as would contain two seahs1 of seed. 33 aAnd he put the wood in order and cut the bull in pieces and laid it on the wood. And he said, "Fill four jars with water and bpour it on the burnt offering and on the wood." 34 And he said, "Do it a second time." And they did it a second time. And he said, "Do it a third time." And they did it a third time. 35 And the water ran around the altar and filled the trench also with water.

36 And at the time of cthe offering of the oblation, Elijah the prophet came near and said, "O Lord, dGod of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, let it be known this day that eyou are God in Israel, and that I am your servant, and that fI have done all these things at your word. 37 Answer me, O Lord, answer me, that this people may know that you, O Lord, are God, and that you have turned their hearts back." 38 gThen the fire of the Lord fell and consumed the burnt offering and the wood and the stones and the dust, and licked up the water that was in the trench. 39 And when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces and said, h"The Lord, he is God; the Lord, he is God."


1Kings 18: 30-39
Waco1947
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Shooter: Is it loving to witness pain and do nothing to stop it, when you know you can stop it immediately? Is that an example of love?

Yes, that is love; howethever, your understanding of God appears to be that God can intervene to stop pain and suffering and the secular world says why not?
Your onlyanswer appears to: "God gave us free will" which has nothing to with a child dying SIDS.

Waco1947 ,la
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News flash Waco: You =/= Christ

From your previous arguments, you actually seem to working for the Other team.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

Johnny Bear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.
It is interesting to me that the Progressive Left/ Climate Change fanatics believe they have the ability to stop a hurricane if they throw enough money at it. These people actually believe they are God.

By and large, they actually do believe that when you consider that "climate change" is for all intents and purposes a religion for many of these indoctrinated and duped cultist believers who are otherwise atheists and agnostics. If you fall into the atheist/agnostic category then you virtually have to believe that humankind is the highest form of being and therefore humankind becomes "god" to you. It then becomes a lot easier to assign "god like capabilities" to human beings - such as the ability to actually alter the climate. It's complete fantasy and nonsense of course, but a whole lot easier to believe if you first believe there is no higher power beyond human beings.
These are red herrings. Make your case for God's over physics


Make your case for your definition of love, whatever that happens to be. You have yet to provide a definition of love.
I have made my case. Jesus on the cross -- self sacrificing on behalf od others and we, too. are called to that same self sacrificing love (Take up your daily and follow me)
Now make your case for God's power over physics. I believe you are having a hard time because your referent is the Bible and you know that is a circular argument. Where in science to you find God's power over physics.
So, it's ok for you to refer to scripture in making your case regarding what love is (i.e. Jesus dying on the cross), but not ok for others to refer to scripture in making the case that God has power over physics?
LIB,MR BEARS
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Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

Johnny Bear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.
It is interesting to me that the Progressive Left/ Climate Change fanatics believe they have the ability to stop a hurricane if they throw enough money at it. These people actually believe they are God.

By and large, they actually do believe that when you consider that "climate change" is for all intents and purposes a religion for many of these indoctrinated and duped cultist believers who are otherwise atheists and agnostics. If you fall into the atheist/agnostic category then you virtually have to believe that humankind is the highest form of being and therefore humankind becomes "god" to you. It then becomes a lot easier to assign "god like capabilities" to human beings - such as the ability to actually alter the climate. It's complete fantasy and nonsense of course, but a whole lot easier to believe if you first believe there is no higher power beyond human beings.
These are red herrings. Make your case for God's over physics


Make your case for your definition of love, whatever that happens to be. You have yet to provide a definition of love.
I have made my case. Jesus on the cross -- self sacrificing on behalf od others and we, too. are called to that same self sacrificing love (Take up your daily and follow me)
Now make your case for God's power over physics. I believe you are having a hard time because your referent is the Bible and you know that is a circular argument. Where in science to you find God's power over physics.
the fine tuning of the universe is my evidence. Where's your evidence He can't?
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Waco1947 said:

Shooter: Is it loving to witness pain and do nothing to stop it, when you know you can stop it immediately? Is that an example of love?

Yes, that is love; howethever, your understanding of God appears to be that God can intervene to stop pain and suffering and the secular world says why not?
Your onlyanswer appears to: "God gave us free will" which has nothing to with a child dying SIDS.


From an eternal view, the child is in heaven and the parents have every opportunity to spend eternity with that child.

Is that comforting to hear at the time of the child's death? For some yes and for others no, but, it is the truth.
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Waco1947 said:

Shooter: Is it loving to witness pain and do nothing to stop it, when you know you can stop it immediately? Is that an example of love?

Yes, that is love; howethever, your understanding of God appears to be that God can intervene to stop pain and suffering and the secular world says why not?
Your onlyanswer appears to: "God gave us free will" which has nothing to with a child dying SIDS.


Prove logically that God necessarily must save a child from SIDS if he has the power to do so, in order for God to remain loving.

You haven't proven this, so your whole premise fails.
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Waco1947 said:

Shooter: Is it loving to witness pain and do nothing to stop it, when you know you can stop it immediately? Is that an example of love?

Yes, that is love; howethever, your understanding of God appears to be that God can intervene to stop pain and suffering and the secular world says why not?
Your onlyanswer appears to: "God gave us free will" which has nothing to with a child dying SIDS.




Have you figured out yet how God can end all suffering without destroying free will, or whether the Bible promises that every single person will have a life free of suffering?
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Waco1947 said:

Shooter: Is it loving to witness pain and do nothing to stop it, when you know you can stop it immediately? Is that an example of love?

Yes, that is love; howethever, your understanding of God appears to be that God can intervene to stop pain and suffering and the secular world says why not?
Your onlyanswer appears to: "God gave us free will" which has nothing to with a child dying SIDS.


Does a parent stop a doctor from giving a vaccine to an infant? The doctor hurts the infant, but the parent stood right there and let the doctor jab a needle into the leg of that infant and inject him with a potentially deadly disease.

How can a parent allow that?

How would a good, LOVING God allow His only Son to be brutally tortured and then nailed to a cross to suffer one of the most excruciating (Latin ex - from; cruciate - cross) ways to die?

Because God, who is LOVE, can allow good from all evil.

The parent knows that the temporary pain that the infant suffers will help keep their child from contracting a deadly disease. God, too, gave us the GREATEST good, our salvation, from the worst evil that was ever performed on earth.

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Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

Johnny Bear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.
It is interesting to me that the Progressive Left/ Climate Change fanatics believe they have the ability to stop a hurricane if they throw enough money at it. These people actually believe they are God.

By and large, they actually do believe that when you consider that "climate change" is for all intents and purposes a religion for many of these indoctrinated and duped cultist believers who are otherwise atheists and agnostics. If you fall into the atheist/agnostic category then you virtually have to believe that humankind is the highest form of being and therefore humankind becomes "god" to you. It then becomes a lot easier to assign "god like capabilities" to human beings - such as the ability to actually alter the climate. It's complete fantasy and nonsense of course, but a whole lot easier to believe if you first believe there is no higher power beyond human beings.
These are red herrings. Make your case for God's over physics


Make your case for your definition of love, whatever that happens to be. You have yet to provide a definition of love.
I have made my case. Jesus on the cross -- self sacrificing on behalf od others and we, too. are called to that same self sacrificing love (Take up your daily and follow me)
Now make your case for God's power over physics. I believe you are having a hard time because your referent is the Bible and you know that is a circular argument. Where in science to you find God's power over physics.
So, it's ok for you to refer to scripture in making your case regarding what love is (i.e. Jesus dying on the cross), but not ok for others to refer to scripture in making the case that God has power over physics?
Why yes it ok to reference scripture about love because love is spiritual and relational. Love makes no claims about being scientific; however, scriptural claims about God's all powerful nature do make scientific claims. One cannot support scientific claims with the Bible.
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Coke Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

Shooter: Is it loving to witness pain and do nothing to stop it, when you know you can stop it immediately? Is that an example of love?

Yes, that is love; howethever, your understanding of God appears to be that God can intervene to stop pain and suffering and the secular world says why not?
Your onlyanswer appears to: "God gave us free will" which has nothing to with a child dying SIDS.


Does a parent stop a doctor from giving a vaccine to an infant? The doctor hurts the infant, but the parent stood right there and let the doctor jab a needle into the leg of that infant and inject him with a potentially deadly disease.

How can a parent allow that?

How would a good, LOVING God allow His only Son to be brutally tortured and then nailed to a cross to suffer one of the most excruciating (Latin ex - from; cruciate - cross) ways to die?

Because God, who is LOVE, can allow good from all evil.

The parent knows that the temporary pain that the infant suffers will help keep their child from contracting a deadly disease. God, too, gave us the GREATEST good, our salvation, from the worst evil that was ever performed on earth.


Soi God allows the pain of slavery so God can offer love of freedom?
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Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

Johnny Bear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.
It is interesting to me that the Progressive Left/ Climate Change fanatics believe they have the ability to stop a hurricane if they throw enough money at it. These people actually believe they are God.

By and large, they actually do believe that when you consider that "climate change" is for all intents and purposes a religion for many of these indoctrinated and duped cultist believers who are otherwise atheists and agnostics. If you fall into the atheist/agnostic category then you virtually have to believe that humankind is the highest form of being and therefore humankind becomes "god" to you. It then becomes a lot easier to assign "god like capabilities" to human beings - such as the ability to actually alter the climate. It's complete fantasy and nonsense of course, but a whole lot easier to believe if you first believe there is no higher power beyond human beings.
These are red herrings. Make your case for God's over physics


Make your case for your definition of love, whatever that happens to be. You have yet to provide a definition of love.
I have made my case. Jesus on the cross -- self sacrificing on behalf od others and we, too. are called to that same self sacrificing love (Take up your daily and follow me)
Now make your case for God's power over physics. I believe you are having a hard time because your referent is the Bible and you know that is a circular argument. Where in science to you find God's power over physics.
So, it's ok for you to refer to scripture in making your case regarding what love is (i.e. Jesus dying on the cross), but not ok for others to refer to scripture in making the case that God has power over physics?
Why yes it ok to reference scripture about love because love is spiritual and relational. Love makes no claims about being scientific; however, scriptural claims about God's all powerful nature do make scientific claims. One cannot support scientific claims with the Bible.
False.

There are plenty of spots the bible supports science or the other way around.

Since you never answered it before..... Did god create everything?
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Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

Johnny Bear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.
It is interesting to me that the Progressive Left/ Climate Change fanatics believe they have the ability to stop a hurricane if they throw enough money at it. These people actually believe they are God.

By and large, they actually do believe that when you consider that "climate change" is for all intents and purposes a religion for many of these indoctrinated and duped cultist believers who are otherwise atheists and agnostics. If you fall into the atheist/agnostic category then you virtually have to believe that humankind is the highest form of being and therefore humankind becomes "god" to you. It then becomes a lot easier to assign "god like capabilities" to human beings - such as the ability to actually alter the climate. It's complete fantasy and nonsense of course, but a whole lot easier to believe if you first believe there is no higher power beyond human beings.
These are red herrings. Make your case for God's over physics


Make your case for your definition of love, whatever that happens to be. You have yet to provide a definition of love.
I have made my case. Jesus on the cross -- self sacrificing on behalf od others and we, too. are called to that same self sacrificing love (Take up your daily and follow me)
Now make your case for God's power over physics. I believe you are having a hard time because your referent is the Bible and you know that is a circular argument. Where in science to you find God's power over physics.
So, it's ok for you to refer to scripture in making your case regarding what love is (i.e. Jesus dying on the cross), but not ok for others to refer to scripture in making the case that God has power over physics?
Why yes it ok to reference scripture about love because love is spiritual and relational. Love makes no claims about being scientific; however, scriptural claims about God's all powerful nature do make scientific claims. One cannot support scientific claims with the Bible.
So, we can trust and believe what scripture says about love, but cannot trust and believe what it says about miracles?

That being the case, what makes you think you can trust and believe what it says about either?
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Waco1947 said:

Soi God allows the pain of slavery so God can offer love of freedom?
During period of human history are you referring so that I may answer accordingly.
D. C. Bear
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Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

Johnny Bear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.
It is interesting to me that the Progressive Left/ Climate Change fanatics believe they have the ability to stop a hurricane if they throw enough money at it. These people actually believe they are God.

By and large, they actually do believe that when you consider that "climate change" is for all intents and purposes a religion for many of these indoctrinated and duped cultist believers who are otherwise atheists and agnostics. If you fall into the atheist/agnostic category then you virtually have to believe that humankind is the highest form of being and therefore humankind becomes "god" to you. It then becomes a lot easier to assign "god like capabilities" to human beings - such as the ability to actually alter the climate. It's complete fantasy and nonsense of course, but a whole lot easier to believe if you first believe there is no higher power beyond human beings.
These are red herrings. Make your case for God's over physics


Make your case for your definition of love, whatever that happens to be. You have yet to provide a definition of love.
I have made my case. Jesus on the cross -- self sacrificing on behalf od others and we, too. are called to that same self sacrificing love (Take up your daily and follow me)
Now make your case for God's power over physics. I believe you are having a hard time because your referent is the Bible and you know that is a circular argument. Where in science to you find God's power over physics.
So, it's ok for you to refer to scripture in making your case regarding what love is (i.e. Jesus dying on the cross), but not ok for others to refer to scripture in making the case that God has power over physics?
Why yes it ok to reference scripture about love because love is spiritual and relational. Love makes no claims about being scientific; however, scriptural claims about God's all powerful nature do make scientific claims. One cannot support scientific claims with the Bible.


One can, in fact, study love scientifically, because one can study relationships scientifically. However, one cannot just make random ethereal statements about love without providing an actual definition. Give a definition of love that does not depend on referencing scripture.
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Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

Johnny Bear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.
It is interesting to me that the Progressive Left/ Climate Change fanatics believe they have the ability to stop a hurricane if they throw enough money at it. These people actually believe they are God.

By and large, they actually do believe that when you consider that "climate change" is for all intents and purposes a religion for many of these indoctrinated and duped cultist believers who are otherwise atheists and agnostics. If you fall into the atheist/agnostic category then you virtually have to believe that humankind is the highest form of being and therefore humankind becomes "god" to you. It then becomes a lot easier to assign "god like capabilities" to human beings - such as the ability to actually alter the climate. It's complete fantasy and nonsense of course, but a whole lot easier to believe if you first believe there is no higher power beyond human beings.
These are red herrings. Make your case for God's over physics


Make your case for your definition of love, whatever that happens to be. You have yet to provide a definition of love.
I have made my case. Jesus on the cross -- self sacrificing on behalf od others and we, too. are called to that same self sacrificing love (Take up your daily and follow me)
Now make your case for God's power over physics. I believe you are having a hard time because your referent is the Bible and you know that is a circular argument. Where in science to you find God's power over physics.
So, it's ok for you to refer to scripture in making your case regarding what love is (i.e. Jesus dying on the cross), but not ok for others to refer to scripture in making the case that God has power over physics?
Why yes it ok to reference scripture about love because love is spiritual and relational. Love makes no claims about being scientific; however, scriptural claims about God's all powerful nature do make scientific claims. One cannot support scientific claims with the Bible.
Scriptural claims about love can be just as false as any so-called scientific claim, so it needs just as much proof as what you're asking for God's power.

Prove that love is from God of scripture, rather than from Eros, Aphrodite, Hathor, or Parvati, Using the bible will be arguing in a circle.
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This response works on two threads so, here it is again.

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John 15
https://www.bible.com/bible/114/JHN.15.NKJV

You take away from God, His power, because you do not understand how love would allow pain and suffering and yet you claim to worship Him.

In this passage we are given the analogy of taking away non-producing branches and of pruning with the intent of producing more fruit. Nothing sounds pleasant about having things taken away from us and certainly nothing about pruning sounds pleasant. It certainly sounds painful but it also sounds purposeful.

Later in the passage, it reads, "As the Father loved Me, I also have loved you; abide in my love." God allowed His Son to go to the cross, a horrible, suffering death but with a greater cause.

God never said you would understand everything. In fact, He said " For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts." If you love the one true God, the God of the Bible, all of it, you will humble yourself, admit that you do not fully understand His ways and have faith.

Humility is tough. So is hell.
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Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

Johnny Bear said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

For you literalists Can God stop a hurricane? If so why does God have that power over physics? Make your case.
It is interesting to me that the Progressive Left/ Climate Change fanatics believe they have the ability to stop a hurricane if they throw enough money at it. These people actually believe they are God.

By and large, they actually do believe that when you consider that "climate change" is for all intents and purposes a religion for many of these indoctrinated and duped cultist believers who are otherwise atheists and agnostics. If you fall into the atheist/agnostic category then you virtually have to believe that humankind is the highest form of being and therefore humankind becomes "god" to you. It then becomes a lot easier to assign "god like capabilities" to human beings - such as the ability to actually alter the climate. It's complete fantasy and nonsense of course, but a whole lot easier to believe if you first believe there is no higher power beyond human beings.
These are red herrings. Make your case for God's over physics


Make your case for your definition of love, whatever that happens to be. You have yet to provide a definition of love.
I have made my case. Jesus on the cross -- self sacrificing on behalf od others and we, too. are called to that same self sacrificing love (Take up your daily and follow me)
Now make your case for God's power over physics. I believe you are having a hard time because your referent is the Bible and you know that is a circular argument. Where in science to you find God's power over physics.


Since you don't want to answer my other questions, how about this one: how does Jesus' death on the cross represent "self-sacrificing love"? In your theology, Jesus was just this guy who went around around telling people to be nice to each other, and the Romans executed him as a common criminal. His death could not have saved anyone's souls - that would be supernatural - or rescued anyone from Hell, which I doubt your theology believes in and would be supernatural in any event.

So in your theology, as I understand it, this guy was charged with blasphemy and sedition and got crucified, like the Romans did to thousands of other people. He died and that was that. There was no Resurrection - that would be supernatural - and John was simply wrong when he said that Jesus "is come in the flesh."

Jesus could not have sacrificed Himself for the sins of the world, because that would be supernatural. He didn't sacrifice Himself for his disciples, because it was He - not they - who was charged with a crime. So where is the "self-sacrificing love"?
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So could God stop the Turkey/Syria Earthquake? Was it God's will? 28,500 innocent lives.

Superstition cannot die soon enough. quash
LIB,MR BEARS
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Waco1947 said:

So could God stop the Turkey/Syria Earthquake? Was it God's will? 28,500 innocent lives.

Superstition cannot die soon enough. quash
Why did it need to be stopped?


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Why the hell would anyone bother answering this idiot's questions when she blatantly ignores the questions that completely destroy her hair brained blasphemous theories?
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

Waco1947
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

Waco1947 said:

So could God stop the Turkey/Syria Earthquake? Was it God's will? 28,500 innocent lives.

Superstition cannot die soon enough. quash
Why did it need to be stopped? Innocents lives who did nothing wrong



Waco1947
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Wangchung said:

Why the hell would anyone bother answering this idiot's questions when she blatantly ignores the questions that completely destroy her hair brained blasphemous theories?
Huh? Sounds like you have no theological or philosophical answers just demeaning nonsense
LIB,MR BEARS
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Waco1947 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Waco1947 said:

So could God stop the Turkey/Syria Earthquake? Was it God's will? 28,500 innocent lives.

Superstition cannot die soon enough. quash
Why did it need to be stopped? Innocents lives who did nothing wrong




What tells you they are innocent?
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Waco1947 said:

So could God stop the Turkey/Syria Earthquake? Was it God's will? 28,500 innocent lives.

Superstition cannot die soon enough. quash


Oh….The old "if God exists why natural disasters happen?"

Do you honestly think you are the first person to ask that in the past 2,000 years?
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Waco1947 said:

So could God stop the Turkey/Syria Earthquake? Was it God's will? 28,500 innocent lives.

Superstition cannot die soon enough. quash
Did Gog create those 28,000 lives?
Is God the author of all life?
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Waco1947 said:

So could God stop the Turkey/Syria Earthquake? Was it God's will? 28,500 innocent lives.

Superstition cannot die soon enough. quash


Could God not stop an abortion to save a life from murder?
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Waco1947 said:

So could God stop the Turkey/Syria Earthquake? Was it God's will? 28,500 innocent lives.

Superstition cannot die soon enough. quash


I'll ask for the third time (not that I'm expecting an answer): Does the Bible guarantee that everyone will enjoy a pain-free, stress-free, worry-free life?
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JXL said:

Waco1947 said:

So could God stop the Turkey/Syria Earthquake? Was it God's will? 28,500 innocent lives.

Superstition cannot die soon enough. quash


I'll ask for the third time (not that I'm expecting an answer): Does the Bible guarantee that everyone will enjoy a pain-free, stress-free, worry-free life?
Anyone who has read Job should be able to answer that question.

Shewt, most of Genesis and Exodus make that plain as well.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

Waco1947 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Waco1947 said:

So could God stop the Turkey/Syria Earthquake? Was it God's will? 28,500 innocent lives.

Superstition cannot die soon enough. quash
Why did it need to be stopped? Innocents lives who did nothing wrong




What tells you they are innocent?
There were children
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Oldbear83 said:

JXL said:

Waco1947 said:

So could God stop the Turkey/Syria Earthquake? Was it God's will? 28,500 innocent lives.

Superstition cannot die soon enough. quash


I'll ask for the third time (not that I'm expecting an answer): Does the Bible guarantee that everyone will enjoy a pain-free, stress-free, worry-free life?
Anyone who has read Job should be able to answer that question.

Shewt, most of Genesis and Exodus make that plain as well.
God's answer in Job: "I am God so shut up."
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JXL said:

Waco1947 said:

So could God stop the Turkey/Syria Earthquake? Was it God's will? 28,500 innocent lives.

Superstition cannot die soon enough. quash


I'll ask for the third time (not that I'm expecting an answer): Does the Bible guarantee that everyone will enjoy a pain-free, stress-free, worry-free life?
No the Bible does not promise it but that trite statement does not answer why 38,000 innocent people died by earthquake and an your god did stop it.
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Coke Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

So could God stop the Turkey/Syria Earthquake? Was it God's will? 28,500 innocent lives.

Superstition cannot die soon enough. quash
Did Gog create those 28,000 lives?
Is God the author of all life?
And the taker? What a horrible superstition of a god.
 
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