He Hate Me said:So, not much has changed except where Christian mores are broadly enforced.Redbrickbear said:Forest Bueller_bf said:Redbrickbear said:So you prove that ancient Mediterranean ideals of male on male sex were nothing like the modern concept of Homosexuality.ron.reagan said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome
Roman men were free to enjoy sex with other males without a perceived loss of masculinity or social status, as long as they took the dominant or penetrative role. Acceptable male partners were slaves and former slaves, prostitutes, and entertainers, whose lifestyle placed them in the nebulous social realm of infamia, excluded from the normal protections accorded to a citizen even if they were technically free.
Being the bottom was super gay in Rome
And again while certain kinds of homosexual sex were tolerated... it was certainly not encouraged behavior in Ancient Rome.
"It was immoral to have sex with another freeborn man's wife, his marriageable daughter, his underage son, or with the man himself; sexual use of another man's slave was subject to the owner's permission."
And by the year 390 AD, homosexuality was declared illegal throughout the empire for any freeborn Romans under condemnation of burning.
[While the world of the ancient Greeks seems to have been somewhat tolerant of homosexuality (as seen in the poems of Sappho and the dialogues of Plato), though it did vary by Polis (city-state), that of the Romans was far more cautious. Romans in the period of the Roman Republic and early empire tended to perceive the Greek acceptance of male homosexuality as less than male and, thus, literally unvirtuous (Vir being the Latin word for man). Indeed, a Roman term for effeminacy was "Graeculus""a little Greek!"
The earliest Roman law against homosexuality appears to have been the Lex Scantinia that was passed by the Roman assembly at some point in the Roman Republic (perhaps in the second century BC). Although the text of this law itself has not survived, later Roman jurists of the second and third century AD describe how it outlawed homosexual sex with young male Roman citizens.]So if he had an "unmarriagable" daughter it was ok?? So they let you have sex with the ugly one?Quote:
"It was immoral to have sex with another freeborn man's wife, his marriageable daughter, his underage son, or with the man himself; sexual use of another man's slave was subject to the owner's permission."
This is an oddly written rule.
Yes, and so was slave rape, infanticide, war for plunder, slavery, abortion, euthanasia, human sacrifice, and a host of other terrible practices.
It is amazing how as Christianity collapses on a society level....many horrible practices we thought were expunged from Western Civilization start crawling back out from the shadows and the sewers.
