great point .Jack Bauer said:
If draq queens are so inspirational, why aren't they giving Ted Talks, speaking to CEOs, giving pregame speeches to sports teams?
Whyis it JUST targeted at kids.....hmmm.
And the drag queens.Porteroso said:
Drag is inherently and explicitly sexual, which is my main issue with kids being involved. But the parents of these kids get the blame.
OsoCoreyell said:And the drag queens.Porteroso said:
Drag is inherently and explicitly sexual, which is my main issue with kids being involved. But the parents of these kids get the blame.
HOW IN THE WORLD do you not blame the drag queens?? If you think it's bad enough that parents should be blamed for allowing their children to be exposed to it, then HOW do you NOT blame the ones who are willfully initiating the exposure?? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I swear, you have some of THE stupidest takes on this forum.Porteroso said:OsoCoreyell said:And the drag queens.Porteroso said:
Drag is inherently and explicitly sexual, which is my main issue with kids being involved. But the parents of these kids get the blame.
I don't know about that. Being ridiculous is sort of the whole point. I guess maybe any adult should know better but obviously not.
Ya, its obvious that the goal of the drag queens is to normalize this stuff and groom the kids so they want to get f'd at a young age. The parents are just morons who are sacrifcing the innocence of their children to the rainbow people.BusyTarpDuster2017 said:HOW IN THE WORLD do you not blame the drag queens?? If you think it's bad enough that parents should be blamed for allowing their children to be exposed to it, then HOW do you NOT blame the ones who are willfully initiating the exposure?? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I swear, you have some of THE stupidest takes on this forum.Porteroso said:OsoCoreyell said:And the drag queens.Porteroso said:
Drag is inherently and explicitly sexual, which is my main issue with kids being involved. But the parents of these kids get the blame.
I don't know about that. Being ridiculous is sort of the whole point. I guess maybe any adult should know better but obviously not.
BusyTarpDuster2017 said:HOW IN THE WORLD do you not blame the drag queens?? If you think it's bad enough that parents should be blamed for allowing their children to be exposed to it, then HOW do you NOT blame the ones who are willfully initiating the exposure?? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I swear, you have some of THE stupidest takes on this forum.Porteroso said:OsoCoreyell said:And the drag queens.Porteroso said:
Drag is inherently and explicitly sexual, which is my main issue with kids being involved. But the parents of these kids get the blame.
I don't know about that. Being ridiculous is sort of the whole point. I guess maybe any adult should know better but obviously not.
So, here's your reasoning:Porteroso said:BusyTarpDuster2017 said:HOW IN THE WORLD do you not blame the drag queens?? If you think it's bad enough that parents should be blamed for allowing their children to be exposed to it, then HOW do you NOT blame the ones who are willfully initiating the exposure?? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I swear, you have some of THE stupidest takes on this forum.Porteroso said:OsoCoreyell said:And the drag queens.Porteroso said:
Drag is inherently and explicitly sexual, which is my main issue with kids being involved. But the parents of these kids get the blame.
I don't know about that. Being ridiculous is sort of the whole point. I guess maybe any adult should know better but obviously not.
You can't blame sexual deviants for all the world's problems, as happy as it would make you. What a great scapegoat for you right-wing zealots. I see why the zealots in the middle east love beheading gays so much.
No one is blaming anyone for the world's problems ... just asking children not be exposed to porn at school or public events.Porteroso said:BusyTarpDuster2017 said:HOW IN THE WORLD do you not blame the drag queens?? If you think it's bad enough that parents should be blamed for allowing their children to be exposed to it, then HOW do you NOT blame the ones who are willfully initiating the exposure?? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I swear, you have some of THE stupidest takes on this forum.Porteroso said:OsoCoreyell said:And the drag queens.Porteroso said:
Drag is inherently and explicitly sexual, which is my main issue with kids being involved. But the parents of these kids get the blame.
I don't know about that. Being ridiculous is sort of the whole point. I guess maybe any adult should know better but obviously not.
You can't blame sexual deviants for all the world's problems, as happy as it would make you. What a great scapegoat for you right-wing zealots. I see why the zealots in the middle east love beheading gays so much.
Honestly, I know we use this word a lot, but it is hard to see it as anything other than grooming. There has always been a tendency by those engaged in sexual immorality to try and normalize their deviancy, and what better way than to make little converts by normalizing and saying such behavior is "ok" to children?Forest Bueller_bf said:
Why is this world would a man dressed as and acting like they are a woman want to read to kids in a library in the first place?
Why would a real parents WANT this to go on?
Having their own entertainment with other like minded ADULTS isn't something I would go see, but it's a free country and they are consenting adults, so they can do what they wish, it is their right.
Getting little kids involved is anywhere from flat wrong, to perverted.
Bingo. You nailed it.BearFan33 said:
I've been trying to figure out the mentality of parents who take their kids to drag readings, drag shows and the such. I don't have an obvious explanation but think it may be related to a form of virtue signaling. In this case it would be virtue signaling by proxy.
Everyone look...there are no bigots in our family!
Classic straw man fallacy. Nobody said or even suggested drag queens are responsible for the world problems. You're smart enough to know that's an absurd position.Porteroso said:BusyTarpDuster2017 said:HOW IN THE WORLD do you not blame the drag queens?? If you think it's bad enough that parents should be blamed for allowing their children to be exposed to it, then HOW do you NOT blame the ones who are willfully initiating the exposure?? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I swear, you have some of THE stupidest takes on this forum.Porteroso said:OsoCoreyell said:And the drag queens.Porteroso said:
Drag is inherently and explicitly sexual, which is my main issue with kids being involved. But the parents of these kids get the blame.
I don't know about that. Being ridiculous is sort of the whole point. I guess maybe any adult should know better but obviously not.
You can't blame sexual deviants for all the world's problems, as happy as it would make you. What a great scapegoat for you right-wing zealots. I see why the zealots in the middle east love beheading gays so much.
That is because grooming is the absolute correct word. The goal 100% is to normalize sexual deviancy by indoctrinating kids very early. There literally is no other reason to want kids subject to porn other than to normalize and internalize it so the deviants feel normal. They are obsessed with forcing their deviancy on others' children.Mothra said:Honestly, I know we use this word a lot, but it is hard to see it as anything other than grooming. There has always been a tendency by those engaged in sexual immorality to try and normalize their deviancy, and what better way than to make little converts by normalizing and saying such behavior is "ok" to children?Forest Bueller_bf said:
Why is this world would a man dressed as and acting like they are a woman want to read to kids in a library in the first place?
Why would a real parents WANT this to go on?
Having their own entertainment with other like minded ADULTS isn't something I would go see, but it's a free country and they are consenting adults, so they can do what they wish, it is their right.
Getting little kids involved is anywhere from flat wrong, to perverted.
Satan is at work here.
BusyTarpDuster2017 said:So, here's your reasoning:Porteroso said:BusyTarpDuster2017 said:HOW IN THE WORLD do you not blame the drag queens?? If you think it's bad enough that parents should be blamed for allowing their children to be exposed to it, then HOW do you NOT blame the ones who are willfully initiating the exposure?? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I swear, you have some of THE stupidest takes on this forum.Porteroso said:OsoCoreyell said:And the drag queens.Porteroso said:
Drag is inherently and explicitly sexual, which is my main issue with kids being involved. But the parents of these kids get the blame.
I don't know about that. Being ridiculous is sort of the whole point. I guess maybe any adult should know better but obviously not.
You can't blame sexual deviants for all the world's problems, as happy as it would make you. What a great scapegoat for you right-wing zealots. I see why the zealots in the middle east love beheading gays so much.
- the overtly sexualized display of drag queens makes them inappropriate for children;
- therefore, parents who expose their children to it are to be blamed;
- however, the drag queens who are directly targeting children for exposure should NOT be blamed, because...
..."you can't blame them for all the world's problems" ????
Like you said, the absolute stupidity on this forum...
There have been quite a few intellectually dishonest posters here over the years, and you might be their chairman of the board.Porteroso said:BusyTarpDuster2017 said:So, here's your reasoning:Porteroso said:BusyTarpDuster2017 said:HOW IN THE WORLD do you not blame the drag queens?? If you think it's bad enough that parents should be blamed for allowing their children to be exposed to it, then HOW do you NOT blame the ones who are willfully initiating the exposure?? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I swear, you have some of THE stupidest takes on this forum.Porteroso said:OsoCoreyell said:And the drag queens.Porteroso said:
Drag is inherently and explicitly sexual, which is my main issue with kids being involved. But the parents of these kids get the blame.
I don't know about that. Being ridiculous is sort of the whole point. I guess maybe any adult should know better but obviously not.
You can't blame sexual deviants for all the world's problems, as happy as it would make you. What a great scapegoat for you right-wing zealots. I see why the zealots in the middle east love beheading gays so much.
- the overtly sexualized display of drag queens makes them inappropriate for children;
- therefore, parents who expose their children to it are to be blamed;
- however, the drag queens who are directly targeting children for exposure should NOT be blamed, because...
..."you can't blame them for all the world's problems" ????
Like you said, the absolute stupidity on this forum...
Ultimately I hold parents responsible for the events they take their kids to, because I think adults should be free to read stories at libraries. Is personal responsibility not a part of your beliefs?
She/he gets it.Jack Bauer said:
This drag queen's response is spot on.
Yep. Perfectly so.J.R. said:She/he gets it.Jack Bauer said:
This drag queen's response is spot on.
What is dishonest about my argument? I can walk you through the logic behind it if you want me to. Otherwise, show me the dishonesty or just go ahead and shut up, troll.Malbec said:There have been quite a few intellectually dishonest posters here over the years, and you might be their chairman of the board.Porteroso said:Ultimately I hold parents responsible for the events they take their kids to, because I think adults should be free to read stories at libraries. Is personal responsibility not a part of your beliefs?BusyTarpDuster2017 said:So, here's your reasoning:Porteroso said:You can't blame sexual deviants for all the world's problems, as happy as it would make you. What a great scapegoat for you right-wing zealots. I see why the zealots in the middle east love beheading gays so much.BusyTarpDuster2017 said:HOW IN THE WORLD do you not blame the drag queens?? If you think it's bad enough that parents should be blamed for allowing their children to be exposed to it, then HOW do you NOT blame the ones who are willfully initiating the exposure?? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I swear, you have some of THE stupidest takes on this forum.Porteroso said:I don't know about that. Being ridiculous is sort of the whole point. I guess maybe any adult should know better but obviously not.OsoCoreyell said:And the drag queens.Porteroso said:
Drag is inherently and explicitly sexual, which is my main issue with kids being involved. But the parents of these kids get the blame.
- the overtly sexualized display of drag queens makes them inappropriate for children;
- therefore, parents who expose their children to it are to be blamed;
- however, the drag queens who are directly targeting children for exposure should NOT be blamed, because...
..."you can't blame them for all the world's problems" ????
Like you said, the absolute stupidity on this forum...
The dishonest part, in my opinion, is when you attempted to frame the discussion as "adults should be free to read stories at libraries".Porteroso said:What is dishonest about my argument? I can walk you through the logic behind it if you want me to. Otherwise, show me the dishonesty or just go ahead and shut up, troll.Malbec said:There have been quite a few intellectually dishonest posters here over the years, and you might be their chairman of the board.Porteroso said:Ultimately I hold parents responsible for the events they take their kids to, because I think adults should be free to read stories at libraries. Is personal responsibility not a part of your beliefs?BusyTarpDuster2017 said:So, here's your reasoning:Porteroso said:You can't blame sexual deviants for all the world's problems, as happy as it would make you. What a great scapegoat for you right-wing zealots. I see why the zealots in the middle east love beheading gays so much.BusyTarpDuster2017 said:HOW IN THE WORLD do you not blame the drag queens?? If you think it's bad enough that parents should be blamed for allowing their children to be exposed to it, then HOW do you NOT blame the ones who are willfully initiating the exposure?? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I swear, you have some of THE stupidest takes on this forum.Porteroso said:I don't know about that. Being ridiculous is sort of the whole point. I guess maybe any adult should know better but obviously not.OsoCoreyell said:And the drag queens.Porteroso said:
Drag is inherently and explicitly sexual, which is my main issue with kids being involved. But the parents of these kids get the blame.
- the overtly sexualized display of drag queens makes them inappropriate for children;
- therefore, parents who expose their children to it are to be blamed;
- however, the drag queens who are directly targeting children for exposure should NOT be blamed, because...
..."you can't blame them for all the world's problems" ????
Like you said, the absolute stupidity on this forum...
Consistent with everyone with a brain.Jack Bauer said:
This drag queen's response is spot on.
It's completely honest, and the root issue, so let's explore it. To me there are 3 parties present. The person in drag, the library sponsoring/allowing this story reading, and the parents taking their children to these story readings.Wangchung said:The dishonest part, in my opinion, is when you attempted to frame the discussion as "adults should be free to read stories at libraries".Porteroso said:What is dishonest about my argument? I can walk you through the logic behind it if you want me to. Otherwise, show me the dishonesty or just go ahead and shut up, troll.Malbec said:There have been quite a few intellectually dishonest posters here over the years, and you might be their chairman of the board.Porteroso said:Ultimately I hold parents responsible for the events they take their kids to, because I think adults should be free to read stories at libraries. Is personal responsibility not a part of your beliefs?BusyTarpDuster2017 said:So, here's your reasoning:Porteroso said:You can't blame sexual deviants for all the world's problems, as happy as it would make you. What a great scapegoat for you right-wing zealots. I see why the zealots in the middle east love beheading gays so much.BusyTarpDuster2017 said:HOW IN THE WORLD do you not blame the drag queens?? If you think it's bad enough that parents should be blamed for allowing their children to be exposed to it, then HOW do you NOT blame the ones who are willfully initiating the exposure?? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I swear, you have some of THE stupidest takes on this forum.Porteroso said:I don't know about that. Being ridiculous is sort of the whole point. I guess maybe any adult should know better but obviously not.OsoCoreyell said:And the drag queens.Porteroso said:
Drag is inherently and explicitly sexual, which is my main issue with kids being involved. But the parents of these kids get the blame.
- the overtly sexualized display of drag queens makes them inappropriate for children;
- therefore, parents who expose their children to it are to be blamed;
- however, the drag queens who are directly targeting children for exposure should NOT be blamed, because...
..."you can't blame them for all the world's problems" ????
Like you said, the absolute stupidity on this forum...