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In reply to Mothra • 7:25a, 1/24/23
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whiterock said:


Great. Awesome. So we nominate the self-aggrandizing buffoon only so that he can get his ass kicked.

Again.

Sounds like a swell plan.

Don't impute a plan to what I'm posting. Just documenting where we are at the moment. And in this case, we are about where I back in late Nov estimated we'd be now....polling on Trump/Biden rebounding back to historic ranges. Trump took some body blows from the establishment in Nov, trying to saddle him with a disappointing outcome in the mid-terms. To some degree, the changes result form better perspective from the electorate on what went wrong (lots of things) and then there just the old news/new news dynamic - polling is being driven more by recent issues than old ones.



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10:55a, 1/24/23
This is a big deal.

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If Republicans continue to think they can solely rely on waging a traditional campaign based on things like rallies, other public appearances, selling better policy ideas/vision for the future, advertising, debates, the nominating convention, etc. it won't matter who the nominee is and I don't care if it's Ron DeSantis vs Kommie Harris. They're going to have to also have and execute a plan that confronts and competes with the dims "election month" tactics and deals with our largely dumbed down electorate that includes things like addressing mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, and massive early voting (before any debates even happen) to have a legit chance. Hopefully the last 2 failed election cycles that saw incredibly inept dims elected have taught them that.
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In reply to Johnny Bear • 5:52a, 1/26/23
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If Republicans continue to think they can solely rely on waging a traditional campaign based on things like rallies, other public appearances, selling better policy ideas/vision for the future, advertising, debates, the nominating convention, etc. it won't matter who the nominee is and I don't care if it's Ron DeSantis vs Kommie Harris. They're going to have to also have and execute a plan that confronts and competes with the dims "election month" tactics and deals with our largely dumbed down electorate that includes things like addressing mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, and massive early voting (before any debates even happen) to have a legit chance. Hopefully the last 2 failed election cycles that saw incredibly inept dims elected have taught them that.
Yep. Change needed. Thinking Dillion has a chance to beat McDaniel for C/RNC
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In reply to whiterock • 6:28p, 1/26/23
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Johnny Bear said:
If Republicans continue to think they can solely rely on waging a traditional campaign based on things like rallies, other public appearances, selling better policy ideas/vision for the future, advertising, debates, the nominating convention, etc. it won't matter who the nominee is and I don't care if it's Ron DeSantis vs Kommie Harris. They're going to have to also have and execute a plan that confronts and competes with the dims "election month" tactics and deals with our largely dumbed down electorate that includes things like addressing mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, and massive early voting (before any debates even happen) to have a legit chance. Hopefully the last 2 failed election cycles that saw incredibly inept dims elected have taught them that.
Yep. Change needed. Thinking Dillion has a chance to beat McDaniel for C/RNC


I'm for Mike Lindell

Hope you don't cancel him
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In reply to Osodecentx • 6:12a, 1/27/23
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Johnny Bear said:
If Republicans continue to think they can solely rely on waging a traditional campaign based on things like rallies, other public appearances, selling better policy ideas/vision for the future, advertising, debates, the nominating convention, etc. it won't matter who the nominee is and I don't care if it's Ron DeSantis vs Kommie Harris. They're going to have to also have and execute a plan that confronts and competes with the dims "election month" tactics and deals with our largely dumbed down electorate that includes things like addressing mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, and massive early voting (before any debates even happen) to have a legit chance. Hopefully the last 2 failed election cycles that saw incredibly inept dims elected have taught them that.
Yep. Change needed. Thinking Dillion has a chance to beat McDaniel for C/RNC


I'm for Mike Lindell

Hope you don't cancel him
Nah, the neverTrumpers have already done that.

There are polls out there showing him with a plurality lead among GOP primary voters. But those "primary voters" are not who will be doing the voting for the RNC Chairman race. It will be the 168 members of the RNC (3 people from each state and territory) who do the voting. Doubt Lindell will get very close. One thing that both party committees will insist upon is some kind of experience within the party, or things related to party activities (i.e. fundraising for the party, former elected official of the party, etc....). Not saying Lindell isn't some kind of magician who come come in and transform. Who knows. Anything CAN happen. Just looking at how the 168 members of the RNC view the world. Every one of them has years of working in the party at one or more levels. Every one of them was elected at their state convention, by people dedicated enough to a partisan cause to attend a cascade of political conventions every 2 years. It is by definition a world of insiders....perhaps grassrootsy types, perhaps moderate or fundraising or wonky types who don't always agree on things. But all of them have spent much of their adult lives working on their passion to the degree that like minded people respect them enough to elect them precinct chair, county chair, state board of directors, state chairman, etc..... They do BELIEVE in the party. It would be hard to find a more discordant choice for such a worldview than a quirky TV pillow salesman who is drawn to controversy like the proverbial moth to the flame. To be clear, there is a role for a person like that in politics. Leadership of the party is not it.

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In reply to whiterock • 3:40p, 1/27/23
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Johnny Bear said:
If Republicans continue to think they can solely rely on waging a traditional campaign based on things like rallies, other public appearances, selling better policy ideas/vision for the future, advertising, debates, the nominating convention, etc. it won't matter who the nominee is and I don't care if it's Ron DeSantis vs Kommie Harris. They're going to have to also have and execute a plan that confronts and competes with the dims "election month" tactics and deals with our largely dumbed down electorate that includes things like addressing mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, and massive early voting (before any debates even happen) to have a legit chance. Hopefully the last 2 failed election cycles that saw incredibly inept dims elected have taught them that.
Yep. Change needed. Thinking Dillion has a chance to beat McDaniel for C/RNC


I'm for Mike Lindell

Hope you don't cancel him
Nah, the neverTrumpers have already done that.

There are polls out there showing him with a plurality lead among GOP primary voters. But those "primary voters" are not who will be doing the voting for the RNC Chairman race. It will be the 168 members of the RNC (3 people from each state and territory) who do the voting. Doubt Lindell will get very close. One thing that both party committees will insist upon is some kind of experience within the party, or things related to party activities (i.e. fundraising for the party, former elected official of the party, etc....). Not saying Lindell isn't some kind of magician who come come in and transform. Who knows. Anything CAN happen. Just looking at how the 168 members of the RNC view the world. Every one of them has years of working in the party at one or more levels. Every one of them was elected at their state convention, by people dedicated enough to a partisan cause to attend a cascade of political conventions every 2 years. It is by definition a world of insiders....perhaps grassrootsy types, perhaps moderate or fundraising or wonky types who don't always agree on things. But all of them have spent much of their adult lives working on their passion to the degree that like minded people respect them enough to elect them precinct chair, county chair, state board of directors, state chairman, etc..... They do BELIEVE in the party. It would be hard to find a more discordant choice for such a worldview than a quirky TV pillow salesman who is drawn to controversy like the proverbial moth to the flame. To be clear, there is a role for a person like that in politics. Leadership of the party is not it.

They re-elected Ronna McRomney so the republicans basically told 90% of their voting base that they dont care what they think. Republicans are a useless and dead party.
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In reply to muddybrazos • 3:43p, 1/27/23
muddybrazos said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Johnny Bear said:
If Republicans continue to think they can solely rely on waging a traditional campaign based on things like rallies, other public appearances, selling better policy ideas/vision for the future, advertising, debates, the nominating convention, etc. it won't matter who the nominee is and I don't care if it's Ron DeSantis vs Kommie Harris. They're going to have to also have and execute a plan that confronts and competes with the dims "election month" tactics and deals with our largely dumbed down electorate that includes things like addressing mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, and massive early voting (before any debates even happen) to have a legit chance. Hopefully the last 2 failed election cycles that saw incredibly inept dims elected have taught them that.
Yep. Change needed. Thinking Dillion has a chance to beat McDaniel for C/RNC


I'm for Mike Lindell

Hope you don't cancel him
Nah, the neverTrumpers have already done that.

There are polls out there showing him with a plurality lead among GOP primary voters. But those "primary voters" are not who will be doing the voting for the RNC Chairman race. It will be the 168 members of the RNC (3 people from each state and territory) who do the voting. Doubt Lindell will get very close. One thing that both party committees will insist upon is some kind of experience within the party, or things related to party activities (i.e. fundraising for the party, former elected official of the party, etc....). Not saying Lindell isn't some kind of magician who come come in and transform. Who knows. Anything CAN happen. Just looking at how the 168 members of the RNC view the world. Every one of them has years of working in the party at one or more levels. Every one of them was elected at their state convention, by people dedicated enough to a partisan cause to attend a cascade of political conventions every 2 years. It is by definition a world of insiders....perhaps grassrootsy types, perhaps moderate or fundraising or wonky types who don't always agree on things. But all of them have spent much of their adult lives working on their passion to the degree that like minded people respect them enough to elect them precinct chair, county chair, state board of directors, state chairman, etc..... They do BELIEVE in the party. It would be hard to find a more discordant choice for such a worldview than a quirky TV pillow salesman who is drawn to controversy like the proverbial moth to the flame. To be clear, there is a role for a person like that in politics. Leadership of the party is not it.

They re-elected Ronna McRomney so the republicans basically told 90% of their voting base that they dont care what they think. Republicans are a useless and dead party.
DANA POINT, Calif. The Republican National Committee on Friday voted to reelect Ronna McDaniel to a fourth two-year term as party chair, opting not to punish her for the GOP's recent string of electoral defeats.

McDaniel fended off a challenge from Harmeet Dhillon, a California lawyer who has represented former president Donald Trump and the unsuccessful Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake, seizing on grass-roots furor demanding new leadership. McDaniel positioned herself as a steady hand and honest broker who can hold together the party's factions and continue building out the RNC's financial and field resources. She prevailed on the first ballot, 111-51.
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In reply to Osodecentx • 3:49p, 1/27/23
Osodecentx said:
muddybrazos said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Johnny Bear said:
If Republicans continue to think they can solely rely on waging a traditional campaign based on things like rallies, other public appearances, selling better policy ideas/vision for the future, advertising, debates, the nominating convention, etc. it won't matter who the nominee is and I don't care if it's Ron DeSantis vs Kommie Harris. They're going to have to also have and execute a plan that confronts and competes with the dims "election month" tactics and deals with our largely dumbed down electorate that includes things like addressing mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, and massive early voting (before any debates even happen) to have a legit chance. Hopefully the last 2 failed election cycles that saw incredibly inept dims elected have taught them that.
Yep. Change needed. Thinking Dillion has a chance to beat McDaniel for C/RNC


I'm for Mike Lindell

Hope you don't cancel him
Nah, the neverTrumpers have already done that.

There are polls out there showing him with a plurality lead among GOP primary voters. But those "primary voters" are not who will be doing the voting for the RNC Chairman race. It will be the 168 members of the RNC (3 people from each state and territory) who do the voting. Doubt Lindell will get very close. One thing that both party committees will insist upon is some kind of experience within the party, or things related to party activities (i.e. fundraising for the party, former elected official of the party, etc....). Not saying Lindell isn't some kind of magician who come come in and transform. Who knows. Anything CAN happen. Just looking at how the 168 members of the RNC view the world. Every one of them has years of working in the party at one or more levels. Every one of them was elected at their state convention, by people dedicated enough to a partisan cause to attend a cascade of political conventions every 2 years. It is by definition a world of insiders....perhaps grassrootsy types, perhaps moderate or fundraising or wonky types who don't always agree on things. But all of them have spent much of their adult lives working on their passion to the degree that like minded people respect them enough to elect them precinct chair, county chair, state board of directors, state chairman, etc..... They do BELIEVE in the party. It would be hard to find a more discordant choice for such a worldview than a quirky TV pillow salesman who is drawn to controversy like the proverbial moth to the flame. To be clear, there is a role for a person like that in politics. Leadership of the party is not it.

They re-elected Ronna McRomney so the republicans basically told 90% of their voting base that they dont care what they think. Republicans are a useless and dead party.
DANA POINT, Calif. The Republican National Committee on Friday voted to reelect Ronna McDaniel to a fourth two-year term as party chair, opting not to punish her for the GOP's recent string of electoral defeats.

McDaniel fended off a challenge from Harmeet Dhillon, a California lawyer who has represented former president Donald Trump and the unsuccessful Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake, seizing on grass-roots furor demanding new leadership. McDaniel positioned herself as a steady hand and honest broker who can hold together the party's factions and continue building out the RNC's financial and field resources. She prevailed on the first ballot, 111-51.
So ... I guess the checks cleared ...
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In reply to whiterock • 6:53p, 1/27/23
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Super cool guy.

Would have great appeal to anywhere in the South that has not been colonized yet.

Doubt he could win a national election.

But cool guy none the less
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In reply to muddybrazos • 6:55p, 1/27/23
muddybrazos said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Johnny Bear said:
If Republicans continue to think they can solely rely on waging a traditional campaign based on things like rallies, other public appearances, selling better policy ideas/vision for the future, advertising, debates, the nominating convention, etc. it won't matter who the nominee is and I don't care if it's Ron DeSantis vs Kommie Harris. They're going to have to also have and execute a plan that confronts and competes with the dims "election month" tactics and deals with our largely dumbed down electorate that includes things like addressing mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, and massive early voting (before any debates even happen) to have a legit chance. Hopefully the last 2 failed election cycles that saw incredibly inept dims elected have taught them that.
Yep. Change needed. Thinking Dillion has a chance to beat McDaniel for C/RNC


I'm for Mike Lindell

Hope you don't cancel him
Nah, the neverTrumpers have already done that.

There are polls out there showing him with a plurality lead among GOP primary voters. But those "primary voters" are not who will be doing the voting for the RNC Chairman race. It will be the 168 members of the RNC (3 people from each state and territory) who do the voting. Doubt Lindell will get very close. One thing that both party committees will insist upon is some kind of experience within the party, or things related to party activities (i.e. fundraising for the party, former elected official of the party, etc....). Not saying Lindell isn't some kind of magician who come come in and transform. Who knows. Anything CAN happen. Just looking at how the 168 members of the RNC view the world. Every one of them has years of working in the party at one or more levels. Every one of them was elected at their state convention, by people dedicated enough to a partisan cause to attend a cascade of political conventions every 2 years. It is by definition a world of insiders....perhaps grassrootsy types, perhaps moderate or fundraising or wonky types who don't always agree on things. But all of them have spent much of their adult lives working on their passion to the degree that like minded people respect them enough to elect them precinct chair, county chair, state board of directors, state chairman, etc..... They do BELIEVE in the party. It would be hard to find a more discordant choice for such a worldview than a quirky TV pillow salesman who is drawn to controversy like the proverbial moth to the flame. To be clear, there is a role for a person like that in politics. Leadership of the party is not it.

They re-elected Ronna McRomney so the republicans basically told 90% of their voting base that they dont care what they think. Republicans are a useless and dead party.


It's a terrible political party that only cares about tax cuts and corporate interests….

And the Democrats somehow tend to be worse and openly anti-white.

And people wonder how Trump got elected.

Average Americans are desperate for something else.
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In reply to Redbrickbear • 7:10p, 1/27/23
Redbrickbear said:
muddybrazos said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Johnny Bear said:
If Republicans continue to think they can solely rely on waging a traditional campaign based on things like rallies, other public appearances, selling better policy ideas/vision for the future, advertising, debates, the nominating convention, etc. it won't matter who the nominee is and I don't care if it's Ron DeSantis vs Kommie Harris. They're going to have to also have and execute a plan that confronts and competes with the dims "election month" tactics and deals with our largely dumbed down electorate that includes things like addressing mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, and massive early voting (before any debates even happen) to have a legit chance. Hopefully the last 2 failed election cycles that saw incredibly inept dims elected have taught them that.
Yep. Change needed. Thinking Dillion has a chance to beat McDaniel for C/RNC


I'm for Mike Lindell

Hope you don't cancel him
Nah, the neverTrumpers have already done that.

There are polls out there showing him with a plurality lead among GOP primary voters. But those "primary voters" are not who will be doing the voting for the RNC Chairman race. It will be the 168 members of the RNC (3 people from each state and territory) who do the voting. Doubt Lindell will get very close. One thing that both party committees will insist upon is some kind of experience within the party, or things related to party activities (i.e. fundraising for the party, former elected official of the party, etc....). Not saying Lindell isn't some kind of magician who come come in and transform. Who knows. Anything CAN happen. Just looking at how the 168 members of the RNC view the world. Every one of them has years of working in the party at one or more levels. Every one of them was elected at their state convention, by people dedicated enough to a partisan cause to attend a cascade of political conventions every 2 years. It is by definition a world of insiders....perhaps grassrootsy types, perhaps moderate or fundraising or wonky types who don't always agree on things. But all of them have spent much of their adult lives working on their passion to the degree that like minded people respect them enough to elect them precinct chair, county chair, state board of directors, state chairman, etc..... They do BELIEVE in the party. It would be hard to find a more discordant choice for such a worldview than a quirky TV pillow salesman who is drawn to controversy like the proverbial moth to the flame. To be clear, there is a role for a person like that in politics. Leadership of the party is not it.

They re-elected Ronna McRomney so the republicans basically told 90% of their voting base that they dont care what they think. Republicans are a useless and dead party.


It's a terrible political party that only cares about tax cuts and corporate interests….

And the Democrats somehow tend to be worse and openly anti-white.

And people wonder how Trump got elected.

Average Americans are desperate for something else.
^^ This ^^

Donald Trump did not get elected because America wanted Donald Trump.

He got elected in 2016 because people wanted no more Clintons, Bushes, Romneys or other plastic fakes.
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In reply to whiterock • 9:13p, 1/27/23
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Gotta think most supporters for 3rd-on-down will fall to Desantis if/when they drop out.

i hope so. Like 1 poster in Alabama said, Ron DeSantis……Trump without the crazy
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In reply to Redbrickbear • 11:51p, 1/27/23
Redbrickbear said:
muddybrazos said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Johnny Bear said:
If Republicans continue to think they can solely rely on waging a traditional campaign based on things like rallies, other public appearances, selling better policy ideas/vision for the future, advertising, debates, the nominating convention, etc. it won't matter who the nominee is and I don't care if it's Ron DeSantis vs Kommie Harris. They're going to have to also have and execute a plan that confronts and competes with the dims "election month" tactics and deals with our largely dumbed down electorate that includes things like addressing mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, and massive early voting (before any debates even happen) to have a legit chance. Hopefully the last 2 failed election cycles that saw incredibly inept dims elected have taught them that.
Yep. Change needed. Thinking Dillion has a chance to beat McDaniel for C/RNC


I'm for Mike Lindell

Hope you don't cancel him
Nah, the neverTrumpers have already done that.

There are polls out there showing him with a plurality lead among GOP primary voters. But those "primary voters" are not who will be doing the voting for the RNC Chairman race. It will be the 168 members of the RNC (3 people from each state and territory) who do the voting. Doubt Lindell will get very close. One thing that both party committees will insist upon is some kind of experience within the party, or things related to party activities (i.e. fundraising for the party, former elected official of the party, etc....). Not saying Lindell isn't some kind of magician who come come in and transform. Who knows. Anything CAN happen. Just looking at how the 168 members of the RNC view the world. Every one of them has years of working in the party at one or more levels. Every one of them was elected at their state convention, by people dedicated enough to a partisan cause to attend a cascade of political conventions every 2 years. It is by definition a world of insiders....perhaps grassrootsy types, perhaps moderate or fundraising or wonky types who don't always agree on things. But all of them have spent much of their adult lives working on their passion to the degree that like minded people respect them enough to elect them precinct chair, county chair, state board of directors, state chairman, etc..... They do BELIEVE in the party. It would be hard to find a more discordant choice for such a worldview than a quirky TV pillow salesman who is drawn to controversy like the proverbial moth to the flame. To be clear, there is a role for a person like that in politics. Leadership of the party is not it.

They re-elected Ronna McRomney so the republicans basically told 90% of their voting base that they dont care what they think. Republicans are a useless and dead party.


It's a terrible political party that only cares about tax cuts and corporate interests….

And the Democrats somehow tend to be worse and openly anti-white.

And people wonder how Trump got elected.

Average Americans are desperate for something else.


It's amazing some groups of people willingly vote Democrat and the extinction of their own progeny. Stupid Does exist
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 6:01a, 1/28/23
Oldbear83 said:
Redbrickbear said:
muddybrazos said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Johnny Bear said:
If Republicans continue to think they can solely rely on waging a traditional campaign based on things like rallies, other public appearances, selling better policy ideas/vision for the future, advertising, debates, the nominating convention, etc. it won't matter who the nominee is and I don't care if it's Ron DeSantis vs Kommie Harris. They're going to have to also have and execute a plan that confronts and competes with the dims "election month" tactics and deals with our largely dumbed down electorate that includes things like addressing mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, and massive early voting (before any debates even happen) to have a legit chance. Hopefully the last 2 failed election cycles that saw incredibly inept dims elected have taught them that.
Yep. Change needed. Thinking Dillion has a chance to beat McDaniel for C/RNC


I'm for Mike Lindell

Hope you don't cancel him
Nah, the neverTrumpers have already done that.

There are polls out there showing him with a plurality lead among GOP primary voters. But those "primary voters" are not who will be doing the voting for the RNC Chairman race. It will be the 168 members of the RNC (3 people from each state and territory) who do the voting. Doubt Lindell will get very close. One thing that both party committees will insist upon is some kind of experience within the party, or things related to party activities (i.e. fundraising for the party, former elected official of the party, etc....). Not saying Lindell isn't some kind of magician who come come in and transform. Who knows. Anything CAN happen. Just looking at how the 168 members of the RNC view the world. Every one of them has years of working in the party at one or more levels. Every one of them was elected at their state convention, by people dedicated enough to a partisan cause to attend a cascade of political conventions every 2 years. It is by definition a world of insiders....perhaps grassrootsy types, perhaps moderate or fundraising or wonky types who don't always agree on things. But all of them have spent much of their adult lives working on their passion to the degree that like minded people respect them enough to elect them precinct chair, county chair, state board of directors, state chairman, etc..... They do BELIEVE in the party. It would be hard to find a more discordant choice for such a worldview than a quirky TV pillow salesman who is drawn to controversy like the proverbial moth to the flame. To be clear, there is a role for a person like that in politics. Leadership of the party is not it.

They re-elected Ronna McRomney so the republicans basically told 90% of their voting base that they dont care what they think. Republicans are a useless and dead party.


It's a terrible political party that only cares about tax cuts and corporate interests….

And the Democrats somehow tend to be worse and openly anti-white.

And people wonder how Trump got elected.

Average Americans are desperate for something else.
^^ This ^^

Donald Trump did not get elected because America wanted Donald Trump.

He got elected in 2016 because people wanted no more Clintons, Bushes, Romneys or other plastic fakes.
^ ^ ^ this ^ ^ ^
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In reply to Redbrickbear • 6:26a, 1/28/23
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whiterock said:


Super cool guy.

Would have great appeal to anywhere in the South that has not been colonized yet.

Doubt he could win a national election.

But cool guy none the less
met home when I was at the Texans training camp at the Greenbriar. Really nice and down to earth.
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In reply to Redbrickbear • 8:06a, 1/28/23
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Accurate. The gop had an opportunity to wipe the floor with the dems.
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In reply to Ghostrider • 8:30a, 1/28/23
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Redbrickbear said:


Accurate. The gop had an opportunity to wipe the floor with the dems.
And then Trump ...
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In reply to whiterock • 8:35a, 1/28/23
whiterock said:
Oldbear83 said:
Redbrickbear said:
muddybrazos said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Johnny Bear said:
If Republicans continue to think they can solely rely on waging a traditional campaign based on things like rallies, other public appearances, selling better policy ideas/vision for the future, advertising, debates, the nominating convention, etc. it won't matter who the nominee is and I don't care if it's Ron DeSantis vs Kommie Harris. They're going to have to also have and execute a plan that confronts and competes with the dims "election month" tactics and deals with our largely dumbed down electorate that includes things like addressing mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, and massive early voting (before any debates even happen) to have a legit chance. Hopefully the last 2 failed election cycles that saw incredibly inept dims elected have taught them that.
Yep. Change needed. Thinking Dillion has a chance to beat McDaniel for C/RNC


I'm for Mike Lindell

Hope you don't cancel him
Nah, the neverTrumpers have already done that.

There are polls out there showing him with a plurality lead among GOP primary voters. But those "primary voters" are not who will be doing the voting for the RNC Chairman race. It will be the 168 members of the RNC (3 people from each state and territory) who do the voting. Doubt Lindell will get very close. One thing that both party committees will insist upon is some kind of experience within the party, or things related to party activities (i.e. fundraising for the party, former elected official of the party, etc....). Not saying Lindell isn't some kind of magician who come come in and transform. Who knows. Anything CAN happen. Just looking at how the 168 members of the RNC view the world. Every one of them has years of working in the party at one or more levels. Every one of them was elected at their state convention, by people dedicated enough to a partisan cause to attend a cascade of political conventions every 2 years. It is by definition a world of insiders....perhaps grassrootsy types, perhaps moderate or fundraising or wonky types who don't always agree on things. But all of them have spent much of their adult lives working on their passion to the degree that like minded people respect them enough to elect them precinct chair, county chair, state board of directors, state chairman, etc..... They do BELIEVE in the party. It would be hard to find a more discordant choice for such a worldview than a quirky TV pillow salesman who is drawn to controversy like the proverbial moth to the flame. To be clear, there is a role for a person like that in politics. Leadership of the party is not it.

They re-elected Ronna McRomney so the republicans basically told 90% of their voting base that they dont care what they think. Republicans are a useless and dead party.


It's a terrible political party that only cares about tax cuts and corporate interests….

And the Democrats somehow tend to be worse and openly anti-white.

And people wonder how Trump got elected.

Average Americans are desperate for something else.
^^ This ^^

Donald Trump did not get elected because America wanted Donald Trump.

He got elected in 2016 because people wanted no more Clintons, Bushes, Romneys or other plastic fakes.
^ ^ ^ this ^ ^ ^
Biden got elected in 2020 because people wanted no more Trump.

So nominate Trump again and get more trading cards for $100 each while the nation gets another liberal POTUS.

That's okay as long as we elect liberal Democrats instead of RINOs
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Sounds great. What's the alternative besides Democrat rule?
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In reply to Osodecentx • 5:15a, 1/29/23
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Oldbear83 said:
Redbrickbear said:
muddybrazos said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Johnny Bear said:
If Republicans continue to think they can solely rely on waging a traditional campaign based on things like rallies, other public appearances, selling better policy ideas/vision for the future, advertising, debates, the nominating convention, etc. it won't matter who the nominee is and I don't care if it's Ron DeSantis vs Kommie Harris. They're going to have to also have and execute a plan that confronts and competes with the dims "election month" tactics and deals with our largely dumbed down electorate that includes things like addressing mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, and massive early voting (before any debates even happen) to have a legit chance. Hopefully the last 2 failed election cycles that saw incredibly inept dims elected have taught them that.
Yep. Change needed. Thinking Dillion has a chance to beat McDaniel for C/RNC


I'm for Mike Lindell

Hope you don't cancel him
Nah, the neverTrumpers have already done that.

There are polls out there showing him with a plurality lead among GOP primary voters. But those "primary voters" are not who will be doing the voting for the RNC Chairman race. It will be the 168 members of the RNC (3 people from each state and territory) who do the voting. Doubt Lindell will get very close. One thing that both party committees will insist upon is some kind of experience within the party, or things related to party activities (i.e. fundraising for the party, former elected official of the party, etc....). Not saying Lindell isn't some kind of magician who come come in and transform. Who knows. Anything CAN happen. Just looking at how the 168 members of the RNC view the world. Every one of them has years of working in the party at one or more levels. Every one of them was elected at their state convention, by people dedicated enough to a partisan cause to attend a cascade of political conventions every 2 years. It is by definition a world of insiders....perhaps grassrootsy types, perhaps moderate or fundraising or wonky types who don't always agree on things. But all of them have spent much of their adult lives working on their passion to the degree that like minded people respect them enough to elect them precinct chair, county chair, state board of directors, state chairman, etc..... They do BELIEVE in the party. It would be hard to find a more discordant choice for such a worldview than a quirky TV pillow salesman who is drawn to controversy like the proverbial moth to the flame. To be clear, there is a role for a person like that in politics. Leadership of the party is not it.

They re-elected Ronna McRomney so the republicans basically told 90% of their voting base that they dont care what they think. Republicans are a useless and dead party.


It's a terrible political party that only cares about tax cuts and corporate interests….

And the Democrats somehow tend to be worse and openly anti-white.

And people wonder how Trump got elected.

Average Americans are desperate for something else.
^^ This ^^

Donald Trump did not get elected because America wanted Donald Trump.

He got elected in 2016 because people wanted no more Clintons, Bushes, Romneys or other plastic fakes.
^ ^ ^ this ^ ^ ^
Biden got elected in 2020 because people wanted no more Trump.

So nominate Trump again and get more trading cards for $100 each while the nation gets another liberal POTUS.

That's okay as long as we elect liberal Democrats instead of RINOs
That's what will happen if you refuse to vote for the GOP nominee.
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At least he didn't use the R-word and get Oso all puffed up in faux outrage.
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In reply to whiterock • 7:44a, 1/29/23
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Oldbear83 said:
Redbrickbear said:
muddybrazos said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Johnny Bear said:
If Republicans continue to think they can solely rely on waging a traditional campaign based on things like rallies, other public appearances, selling better policy ideas/vision for the future, advertising, debates, the nominating convention, etc. it won't matter who the nominee is and I don't care if it's Ron DeSantis vs Kommie Harris. They're going to have to also have and execute a plan that confronts and competes with the dims "election month" tactics and deals with our largely dumbed down electorate that includes things like addressing mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, and massive early voting (before any debates even happen) to have a legit chance. Hopefully the last 2 failed election cycles that saw incredibly inept dims elected have taught them that.
Yep. Change needed. Thinking Dillion has a chance to beat McDaniel for C/RNC


I'm for Mike Lindell

Hope you don't cancel him
Nah, the neverTrumpers have already done that.

There are polls out there showing him with a plurality lead among GOP primary voters. But those "primary voters" are not who will be doing the voting for the RNC Chairman race. It will be the 168 members of the RNC (3 people from each state and territory) who do the voting. Doubt Lindell will get very close. One thing that both party committees will insist upon is some kind of experience within the party, or things related to party activities (i.e. fundraising for the party, former elected official of the party, etc....). Not saying Lindell isn't some kind of magician who come come in and transform. Who knows. Anything CAN happen. Just looking at how the 168 members of the RNC view the world. Every one of them has years of working in the party at one or more levels. Every one of them was elected at their state convention, by people dedicated enough to a partisan cause to attend a cascade of political conventions every 2 years. It is by definition a world of insiders....perhaps grassrootsy types, perhaps moderate or fundraising or wonky types who don't always agree on things. But all of them have spent much of their adult lives working on their passion to the degree that like minded people respect them enough to elect them precinct chair, county chair, state board of directors, state chairman, etc..... They do BELIEVE in the party. It would be hard to find a more discordant choice for such a worldview than a quirky TV pillow salesman who is drawn to controversy like the proverbial moth to the flame. To be clear, there is a role for a person like that in politics. Leadership of the party is not it.

They re-elected Ronna McRomney so the republicans basically told 90% of their voting base that they dont care what they think. Republicans are a useless and dead party.


It's a terrible political party that only cares about tax cuts and corporate interests….

And the Democrats somehow tend to be worse and openly anti-white.

And people wonder how Trump got elected.

Average Americans are desperate for something else.
^^ This ^^

Donald Trump did not get elected because America wanted Donald Trump.

He got elected in 2016 because people wanted no more Clintons, Bushes, Romneys or other plastic fakes.
^ ^ ^ this ^ ^ ^
Biden got elected in 2020 because people wanted no more Trump.

So nominate Trump again and get more trading cards for $100 each while the nation gets another liberal POTUS.

That's okay as long as we elect liberal Democrats instead of RINOs
That's what will happen if you refuse to vote for the GOP nominee.


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One name is missing in this discussion....Hunter.
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Greg Gutfeld: Here's the case for Hunter Biden in 2024 | Fox News
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Trump will not get elected if he wins the GOP nomination. Too many moderate republicans will just not vote. My other concern is if Trump does not win the primary, will he run 3rd party and pull votes from the GOP winner? Pull a Ross Perot.
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In reply to Osodecentx • 7:21a, 1/30/23
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Oldbear83 said:
Redbrickbear said:
muddybrazos said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Johnny Bear said:
If Republicans continue to think they can solely rely on waging a traditional campaign based on things like rallies, other public appearances, selling better policy ideas/vision for the future, advertising, debates, the nominating convention, etc. it won't matter who the nominee is and I don't care if it's Ron DeSantis vs Kommie Harris. They're going to have to also have and execute a plan that confronts and competes with the dims "election month" tactics and deals with our largely dumbed down electorate that includes things like addressing mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, and massive early voting (before any debates even happen) to have a legit chance. Hopefully the last 2 failed election cycles that saw incredibly inept dims elected have taught them that.
Yep. Change needed. Thinking Dillion has a chance to beat McDaniel for C/RNC


I'm for Mike Lindell

Hope you don't cancel him
Nah, the neverTrumpers have already done that.

There are polls out there showing him with a plurality lead among GOP primary voters. But those "primary voters" are not who will be doing the voting for the RNC Chairman race. It will be the 168 members of the RNC (3 people from each state and territory) who do the voting. Doubt Lindell will get very close. One thing that both party committees will insist upon is some kind of experience within the party, or things related to party activities (i.e. fundraising for the party, former elected official of the party, etc....). Not saying Lindell isn't some kind of magician who come come in and transform. Who knows. Anything CAN happen. Just looking at how the 168 members of the RNC view the world. Every one of them has years of working in the party at one or more levels. Every one of them was elected at their state convention, by people dedicated enough to a partisan cause to attend a cascade of political conventions every 2 years. It is by definition a world of insiders....perhaps grassrootsy types, perhaps moderate or fundraising or wonky types who don't always agree on things. But all of them have spent much of their adult lives working on their passion to the degree that like minded people respect them enough to elect them precinct chair, county chair, state board of directors, state chairman, etc..... They do BELIEVE in the party. It would be hard to find a more discordant choice for such a worldview than a quirky TV pillow salesman who is drawn to controversy like the proverbial moth to the flame. To be clear, there is a role for a person like that in politics. Leadership of the party is not it.

They re-elected Ronna McRomney so the republicans basically told 90% of their voting base that they dont care what they think. Republicans are a useless and dead party.


It's a terrible political party that only cares about tax cuts and corporate interests….

And the Democrats somehow tend to be worse and openly anti-white.

And people wonder how Trump got elected.

Average Americans are desperate for something else.
^^ This ^^

Donald Trump did not get elected because America wanted Donald Trump.

He got elected in 2016 because people wanted no more Clintons, Bushes, Romneys or other plastic fakes.
^ ^ ^ this ^ ^ ^
Biden got elected in 2020 because people wanted no more Trump.

So nominate Trump again and get more trading cards for $100 each while the nation gets another liberal POTUS.

That's okay as long as we elect liberal Democrats instead of RINOs
That's what will happen if you refuse to vote for the GOP nominee.


Who is it?
why on earth would it matter? there is no Republican on the horizon who would not be an improvement over the current nutjob. Neither is there any Democrat on the horizon who would not be an improvement over the current nutjob.

yeah, yeah, yeah....third party candidate bull***** That's such a fools game. If we end up playing the likely scenario, a Biden-Trump rematch, BOTH parties will likely try to fuel a 3rd party candidate to suck off fools and let the party bases decide.

Hilarious to see moderates, who hate the bases of the two parties equally (despite they actually mostly agree with one or the other) vote to empower the bases of those two parties by sucking off votes in the middle of the spectrum to 3rd parties which have not a prayer of winning.

When you vote 3rd party, friend, you do not weaken those people who use the R-word. You empower them.
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In reply to whiterock • 9:39a, 1/30/23
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Oldbear83 said:
Redbrickbear said:
muddybrazos said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Johnny Bear said:
If Republicans continue to think they can solely rely on waging a traditional campaign based on things like rallies, other public appearances, selling better policy ideas/vision for the future, advertising, debates, the nominating convention, etc. it won't matter who the nominee is and I don't care if it's Ron DeSantis vs Kommie Harris. They're going to have to also have and execute a plan that confronts and competes with the dims "election month" tactics and deals with our largely dumbed down electorate that includes things like addressing mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, and massive early voting (before any debates even happen) to have a legit chance. Hopefully the last 2 failed election cycles that saw incredibly inept dims elected have taught them that.
Yep. Change needed. Thinking Dillion has a chance to beat McDaniel for C/RNC


I'm for Mike Lindell

Hope you don't cancel him
Nah, the neverTrumpers have already done that.

There are polls out there showing him with a plurality lead among GOP primary voters. But those "primary voters" are not who will be doing the voting for the RNC Chairman race. It will be the 168 members of the RNC (3 people from each state and territory) who do the voting. Doubt Lindell will get very close. One thing that both party committees will insist upon is some kind of experience within the party, or things related to party activities (i.e. fundraising for the party, former elected official of the party, etc....). Not saying Lindell isn't some kind of magician who come come in and transform. Who knows. Anything CAN happen. Just looking at how the 168 members of the RNC view the world. Every one of them has years of working in the party at one or more levels. Every one of them was elected at their state convention, by people dedicated enough to a partisan cause to attend a cascade of political conventions every 2 years. It is by definition a world of insiders....perhaps grassrootsy types, perhaps moderate or fundraising or wonky types who don't always agree on things. But all of them have spent much of their adult lives working on their passion to the degree that like minded people respect them enough to elect them precinct chair, county chair, state board of directors, state chairman, etc..... They do BELIEVE in the party. It would be hard to find a more discordant choice for such a worldview than a quirky TV pillow salesman who is drawn to controversy like the proverbial moth to the flame. To be clear, there is a role for a person like that in politics. Leadership of the party is not it.

They re-elected Ronna McRomney so the republicans basically told 90% of their voting base that they dont care what they think. Republicans are a useless and dead party.


It's a terrible political party that only cares about tax cuts and corporate interests….

And the Democrats somehow tend to be worse and openly anti-white.

And people wonder how Trump got elected.

Average Americans are desperate for something else.
^^ This ^^

Donald Trump did not get elected because America wanted Donald Trump.

He got elected in 2016 because people wanted no more Clintons, Bushes, Romneys or other plastic fakes.
^ ^ ^ this ^ ^ ^
Biden got elected in 2020 because people wanted no more Trump.

So nominate Trump again and get more trading cards for $100 each while the nation gets another liberal POTUS.

That's okay as long as we elect liberal Democrats instead of RINOs
That's what will happen if you refuse to vote for the GOP nominee.


Who is it?
why on earth would it matter? there is no Republican on the horizon who would not be an improvement over the current nutjob. Neither is there any Democrat on the horizon who would not be an improvement over the current nutjob.
Amen to this. It shocks me that so many people miss this.

The old adage of cutting your nose off to spite your face is apropos here. We have some clueless "conservatives" on this board.
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In reply to whiterock • 11:58a, 1/30/23
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Oldbear83 said:
Redbrickbear said:
muddybrazos said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Johnny Bear said:
If Republicans continue to think they can solely rely on waging a traditional campaign based on things like rallies, other public appearances, selling better policy ideas/vision for the future, advertising, debates, the nominating convention, etc. it won't matter who the nominee is and I don't care if it's Ron DeSantis vs Kommie Harris. They're going to have to also have and execute a plan that confronts and competes with the dims "election month" tactics and deals with our largely dumbed down electorate that includes things like addressing mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, and massive early voting (before any debates even happen) to have a legit chance. Hopefully the last 2 failed election cycles that saw incredibly inept dims elected have taught them that.
Yep. Change needed. Thinking Dillion has a chance to beat McDaniel for C/RNC


I'm for Mike Lindell

Hope you don't cancel him
Nah, the neverTrumpers have already done that.

There are polls out there showing him with a plurality lead among GOP primary voters. But those "primary voters" are not who will be doing the voting for the RNC Chairman race. It will be the 168 members of the RNC (3 people from each state and territory) who do the voting. Doubt Lindell will get very close. One thing that both party committees will insist upon is some kind of experience within the party, or things related to party activities (i.e. fundraising for the party, former elected official of the party, etc....). Not saying Lindell isn't some kind of magician who come come in and transform. Who knows. Anything CAN happen. Just looking at how the 168 members of the RNC view the world. Every one of them has years of working in the party at one or more levels. Every one of them was elected at their state convention, by people dedicated enough to a partisan cause to attend a cascade of political conventions every 2 years. It is by definition a world of insiders....perhaps grassrootsy types, perhaps moderate or fundraising or wonky types who don't always agree on things. But all of them have spent much of their adult lives working on their passion to the degree that like minded people respect them enough to elect them precinct chair, county chair, state board of directors, state chairman, etc..... They do BELIEVE in the party. It would be hard to find a more discordant choice for such a worldview than a quirky TV pillow salesman who is drawn to controversy like the proverbial moth to the flame. To be clear, there is a role for a person like that in politics. Leadership of the party is not it.

They re-elected Ronna McRomney so the republicans basically told 90% of their voting base that they dont care what they think. Republicans are a useless and dead party.


It's a terrible political party that only cares about tax cuts and corporate interests….

And the Democrats somehow tend to be worse and openly anti-white.

And people wonder how Trump got elected.

Average Americans are desperate for something else.
^^ This ^^

Donald Trump did not get elected because America wanted Donald Trump.

He got elected in 2016 because people wanted no more Clintons, Bushes, Romneys or other plastic fakes.
^ ^ ^ this ^ ^ ^
Biden got elected in 2020 because people wanted no more Trump.

So nominate Trump again and get more trading cards for $100 each while the nation gets another liberal POTUS.

That's okay as long as we elect liberal Democrats instead of RINOs
That's what will happen if you refuse to vote for the GOP nominee.


Who is it?
why on earth would it matter? there is no Republican on the horizon who would not be an improvement over the current nutjob. Neither is there any Democrat on the horizon who would not be an improvement over the current nutjob.

yeah, yeah, yeah....third party candidate bull***** That's such a fools game. If we end up playing the likely scenario, a Biden-Trump rematch, BOTH parties will likely try to fuel a 3rd party candidate to suck off fools and let the party bases decide.

Hilarious to see moderates, who hate the bases of the two parties equally (despite they actually mostly agree with one or the other) vote to empower the bases of those two parties by sucking off votes in the middle of the spectrum to 3rd parties which have not a prayer of winning.

When you vote 3rd party, friend, you do not weaken those people who use the R-word. You empower them.
One of your candidates incited insurrection against the country, tried to steal an election he lost, and is manifestly United to be POTUS.
As bad as Biden and the rest of the Dems are, none have tried that. There are things which are disqualifying.

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In reply to Mothra • 12:00p, 1/30/23
Mothra said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Oldbear83 said:
Redbrickbear said:
muddybrazos said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Johnny Bear said:
If Republicans continue to think they can solely rely on waging a traditional campaign based on things like rallies, other public appearances, selling better policy ideas/vision for the future, advertising, debates, the nominating convention, etc. it won't matter who the nominee is and I don't care if it's Ron DeSantis vs Kommie Harris. They're going to have to also have and execute a plan that confronts and competes with the dims "election month" tactics and deals with our largely dumbed down electorate that includes things like addressing mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, and massive early voting (before any debates even happen) to have a legit chance. Hopefully the last 2 failed election cycles that saw incredibly inept dims elected have taught them that.
Yep. Change needed. Thinking Dillion has a chance to beat McDaniel for C/RNC


I'm for Mike Lindell

Hope you don't cancel him
Nah, the neverTrumpers have already done that.

There are polls out there showing him with a plurality lead among GOP primary voters. But those "primary voters" are not who will be doing the voting for the RNC Chairman race. It will be the 168 members of the RNC (3 people from each state and territory) who do the voting. Doubt Lindell will get very close. One thing that both party committees will insist upon is some kind of experience within the party, or things related to party activities (i.e. fundraising for the party, former elected official of the party, etc....). Not saying Lindell isn't some kind of magician who come come in and transform. Who knows. Anything CAN happen. Just looking at how the 168 members of the RNC view the world. Every one of them has years of working in the party at one or more levels. Every one of them was elected at their state convention, by people dedicated enough to a partisan cause to attend a cascade of political conventions every 2 years. It is by definition a world of insiders....perhaps grassrootsy types, perhaps moderate or fundraising or wonky types who don't always agree on things. But all of them have spent much of their adult lives working on their passion to the degree that like minded people respect them enough to elect them precinct chair, county chair, state board of directors, state chairman, etc..... They do BELIEVE in the party. It would be hard to find a more discordant choice for such a worldview than a quirky TV pillow salesman who is drawn to controversy like the proverbial moth to the flame. To be clear, there is a role for a person like that in politics. Leadership of the party is not it.

They re-elected Ronna McRomney so the republicans basically told 90% of their voting base that they dont care what they think. Republicans are a useless and dead party.


It's a terrible political party that only cares about tax cuts and corporate interests….

And the Democrats somehow tend to be worse and openly anti-white.

And people wonder how Trump got elected.

Average Americans are desperate for something else.
^^ This ^^

Donald Trump did not get elected because America wanted Donald Trump.

He got elected in 2016 because people wanted no more Clintons, Bushes, Romneys or other plastic fakes.
^ ^ ^ this ^ ^ ^
Biden got elected in 2020 because people wanted no more Trump.

So nominate Trump again and get more trading cards for $100 each while the nation gets another liberal POTUS.

That's okay as long as we elect liberal Democrats instead of RINOs
That's what will happen if you refuse to vote for the GOP nominee.


Who is it?
why on earth would it matter? there is no Republican on the horizon who would not be an improvement over the current nutjob. Neither is there any Democrat on the horizon who would not be an improvement over the current nutjob.
Amen to this. It shocks me that so many people miss this.

The old adage of cutting your nose off to spite your face is apropos here. We have some clueless "conservatives" on this board.
Voting for a candidate who incited insurrection and suggests changing the Constitution (or ignoring it) isn't conservative. People who vote for him are not conservative.
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In reply to Osodecentx • 12:02p, 1/30/23
Osodecentx said:
Mothra said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Oldbear83 said:
Redbrickbear said:
muddybrazos said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Johnny Bear said:
If Republicans continue to think they can solely rely on waging a traditional campaign based on things like rallies, other public appearances, selling better policy ideas/vision for the future, advertising, debates, the nominating convention, etc. it won't matter who the nominee is and I don't care if it's Ron DeSantis vs Kommie Harris. They're going to have to also have and execute a plan that confronts and competes with the dims "election month" tactics and deals with our largely dumbed down electorate that includes things like addressing mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, and massive early voting (before any debates even happen) to have a legit chance. Hopefully the last 2 failed election cycles that saw incredibly inept dims elected have taught them that.
Yep. Change needed. Thinking Dillion has a chance to beat McDaniel for C/RNC


I'm for Mike Lindell

Hope you don't cancel him
Nah, the neverTrumpers have already done that.

There are polls out there showing him with a plurality lead among GOP primary voters. But those "primary voters" are not who will be doing the voting for the RNC Chairman race. It will be the 168 members of the RNC (3 people from each state and territory) who do the voting. Doubt Lindell will get very close. One thing that both party committees will insist upon is some kind of experience within the party, or things related to party activities (i.e. fundraising for the party, former elected official of the party, etc....). Not saying Lindell isn't some kind of magician who come come in and transform. Who knows. Anything CAN happen. Just looking at how the 168 members of the RNC view the world. Every one of them has years of working in the party at one or more levels. Every one of them was elected at their state convention, by people dedicated enough to a partisan cause to attend a cascade of political conventions every 2 years. It is by definition a world of insiders....perhaps grassrootsy types, perhaps moderate or fundraising or wonky types who don't always agree on things. But all of them have spent much of their adult lives working on their passion to the degree that like minded people respect them enough to elect them precinct chair, county chair, state board of directors, state chairman, etc..... They do BELIEVE in the party. It would be hard to find a more discordant choice for such a worldview than a quirky TV pillow salesman who is drawn to controversy like the proverbial moth to the flame. To be clear, there is a role for a person like that in politics. Leadership of the party is not it.

They re-elected Ronna McRomney so the republicans basically told 90% of their voting base that they dont care what they think. Republicans are a useless and dead party.


It's a terrible political party that only cares about tax cuts and corporate interests….

And the Democrats somehow tend to be worse and openly anti-white.

And people wonder how Trump got elected.

Average Americans are desperate for something else.
^^ This ^^

Donald Trump did not get elected because America wanted Donald Trump.

He got elected in 2016 because people wanted no more Clintons, Bushes, Romneys or other plastic fakes.
^ ^ ^ this ^ ^ ^
Biden got elected in 2020 because people wanted no more Trump.

So nominate Trump again and get more trading cards for $100 each while the nation gets another liberal POTUS.

That's okay as long as we elect liberal Democrats instead of RINOs
That's what will happen if you refuse to vote for the GOP nominee.


Who is it?
why on earth would it matter? there is no Republican on the horizon who would not be an improvement over the current nutjob. Neither is there any Democrat on the horizon who would not be an improvement over the current nutjob.
Amen to this. It shocks me that so many people miss this.

The old adage of cutting your nose off to spite your face is apropos here. We have some clueless "conservatives" on this board.
Voting for a candidate who incited insurrection and suggests changing the Constitution (or ignoring it) isn't conservative. People who vote for him are not conservative.
So you are going along with the liberal spin? There was no insurrection. No one even had weapons. There were also a ton of irregularities with the vote. There is no reason Trump shouldn't question it.

Yes, the idiots that charged the Capitol were wrong and should be punished to the full extent of the law. No where did Trump say let's charge into the Capitol. Could Trump have handled it better after it started happening? Sure.
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If Republicans continue to think they can solely rely on waging a traditional campaign based on things like rallies, other public appearances, selling better policy ideas/vision for the future, advertising, debates, the nominating convention, etc. it won't matter who the nominee is and I don't care if it's Ron DeSantis vs Kommie Harris. They're going to have to also have and execute a plan that confronts and competes with the dims "election month" tactics and deals with our largely dumbed down electorate that includes things like addressing mail in ballots, ballot harvesting, and massive early voting (before any debates even happen) to have a legit chance. Hopefully the last 2 failed election cycles that saw incredibly inept dims elected have taught them that.
Yep. Change needed. Thinking Dillion has a chance to beat McDaniel for C/RNC


I'm for Mike Lindell

Hope you don't cancel him
Nah, the neverTrumpers have already done that.

There are polls out there showing him with a plurality lead among GOP primary voters. But those "primary voters" are not who will be doing the voting for the RNC Chairman race. It will be the 168 members of the RNC (3 people from each state and territory) who do the voting. Doubt Lindell will get very close. One thing that both party committees will insist upon is some kind of experience within the party, or things related to party activities (i.e. fundraising for the party, former elected official of the party, etc....). Not saying Lindell isn't some kind of magician who come come in and transform. Who knows. Anything CAN happen. Just looking at how the 168 members of the RNC view the world. Every one of them has years of working in the party at one or more levels. Every one of them was elected at their state convention, by people dedicated enough to a partisan cause to attend a cascade of political conventions every 2 years. It is by definition a world of insiders....perhaps grassrootsy types, perhaps moderate or fundraising or wonky types who don't always agree on things. But all of them have spent much of their adult lives working on their passion to the degree that like minded people respect them enough to elect them precinct chair, county chair, state board of directors, state chairman, etc..... They do BELIEVE in the party. It would be hard to find a more discordant choice for such a worldview than a quirky TV pillow salesman who is drawn to controversy like the proverbial moth to the flame. To be clear, there is a role for a person like that in politics. Leadership of the party is not it.

They re-elected Ronna McRomney so the republicans basically told 90% of their voting base that they dont care what they think. Republicans are a useless and dead party.


It's a terrible political party that only cares about tax cuts and corporate interests….

And the Democrats somehow tend to be worse and openly anti-white.

And people wonder how Trump got elected.

Average Americans are desperate for something else.
^^ This ^^

Donald Trump did not get elected because America wanted Donald Trump.

He got elected in 2016 because people wanted no more Clintons, Bushes, Romneys or other plastic fakes.
^ ^ ^ this ^ ^ ^
Biden got elected in 2020 because people wanted no more Trump.

So nominate Trump again and get more trading cards for $100 each while the nation gets another liberal POTUS.

That's okay as long as we elect liberal Democrats instead of RINOs
That's what will happen if you refuse to vote for the GOP nominee.


Who is it?
why on earth would it matter? there is no Republican on the horizon who would not be an improvement over the current nutjob. Neither is there any Democrat on the horizon who would not be an improvement over the current nutjob.
Amen to this. It shocks me that so many people miss this.

The old adage of cutting your nose off to spite your face is apropos here. We have some clueless "conservatives" on this board.
Voting for a candidate who incited insurrection and suggests changing the Constitution (or ignoring it) isn't conservative. People who vote for him are not conservative.
So you are going along with the liberal spin? There was no insurrection. No one even had weapons. There were also a ton if irregularities with the vote. There is no reason Trump shouldn't question it.
Don't bother. That "Biden 2024" sign in Oso's yard isn't going anywhere.

TDS is terminal with some.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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