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That's one really weak excuse you have there, Mothra.

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Did I make an excuse? If so, that wasn't my intention. I couldn't care less what Trump's sycophants think, nor am I afraid of offending them, as you are.

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Well, if you don't mind acting like an ass, you do you.

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Well, to be fair, when has that ever stopped you?

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3. You reject their will when you reject Trump. When you prevent Trump from building the wall, you are saying to the people, “we love immigrants more than you.” When you prosecute Trump, you are prosecuting them.

— κρῠπτός (@_kruptos) January 17, 2024

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You realize this is an explicitly fascist concept…that the will of "the people" is embodied in a certain leader who can therefore do no wrong.

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My thought when reading this was, I suspect that's how those who supported Hitler felt.

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IOWA AD SPENDING

TRUMP:
Spent: $18.2 Million
Dollars per vote: $340

ROB:
Spent: $34 Million
Dollars per vote: $1,697.96

HALEY:
Spent: $36 Million
Dollars per vote: $1,797.84

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) January 16, 2024

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There simply is no getting around the cult of personality.

I appreciate that DeSantis tried. But it's going to be Trump again for the loss.

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Yep

Reminds me when old white guy McCain got the Republican nomination. Anyone with eyes should have been able to see that he would stand no chance against the younger novelty running as a media caressed incumbent.

At least McCain was a good, decent , well spoken man.

Trump will go into full freak out mode long before Election Day.

Going to be sickening.

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Poll: Majority of Iowa GOP caucus-goers don't believe Biden legitimately won in 2020
Preliminary Iowa Republican caucus entrance polls on Monday highlighted the grip former president Donald Trump maintains on Republican voters and the extent to which his false claims that the 2020 election was rigged have dominated the GOP electorate.

Nearly two-thirds of Iowa caucus-goers said President Biden did not legitimately win the election in 2020, according to results from network entrance polls conducted by Edison Research.
Those numbers come as Trump has made false claims surrounding the 2020 election a key part of his stump speechand his bid for a return to the White House. During a campaign event in Indianola, Iowa, this weekend ahead of his caucus victory Monday night, Trump declared that "radical-left Democrats rigged the presidential election of 2020, and we are not going to allow them to rig the presidential election of 2024."

There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election, and challenges to myriad election-related issues have been repudiated more than 60 times in court.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/15/poll-majority-iowa-gop-caucus-goers-dont-believe-biden-legitimately-won-2020/

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Do I believe Joe Biden garnered 15 million votes more than Barrack Obama with a campaign of limited public appearances and minimal enthusiasm ?

Of course not.

But since I can not prove widespread election fraud…….he did.

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There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election, and challenges to myriad election-related issues have been repudiated more than 60 times in court.

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that last part is not true.. dig deeper on the court cases.

It was never about the fraud, it was always about getting away with using non legislature written election rules.

A bit of a magicians trick, but played out to perfection..

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A relatively minor issue which wouldn't have changed the result, but way to hustle with those goalposts!

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we only broke the law a little but its ok

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Sorry, were we arguing whether it's okay or whether it was widespread enough to make a difference? I think that was the original point. But you keep hustling!

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we are not arguing whether it was wide spread enough to make a difference. That is a fact.

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Source?

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IOWA AD SPENDING

TRUMP:
Spent: $18.2 Million
Dollars per vote: $340

ROB:
Spent: $34 Million
Dollars per vote: $1,697.96

HALEY:
Spent: $36 Million
Dollars per vote: $1,797.84

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) January 16, 2024

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There simply is no getting around the cult of personality.

I appreciate that DeSantis tried. But it's going to be Trump again for the loss.

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Yep

Reminds me when old white guy McCain got the Republican nomination. Anyone with eyes should have been able to see that he would stand no chance against the younger novelty running as a media caressed incumbent.

At least McCain was a good, decent , well spoken man.

Trump will go into full freak out mode long before Election Day.

Going to be sickening.

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Poll: Majority of Iowa GOP caucus-goers don't believe Biden legitimately won in 2020
Preliminary Iowa Republican caucus entrance polls on Monday highlighted the grip former president Donald Trump maintains on Republican voters and the extent to which his false claims that the 2020 election was rigged have dominated the GOP electorate.

Nearly two-thirds of Iowa caucus-goers said President Biden did not legitimately win the election in 2020, according to results from network entrance polls conducted by Edison Research.
Those numbers come as Trump has made false claims surrounding the 2020 election a key part of his stump speechand his bid for a return to the White House. During a campaign event in Indianola, Iowa, this weekend ahead of his caucus victory Monday night, Trump declared that "radical-left Democrats rigged the presidential election of 2020, and we are not going to allow them to rig the presidential election of 2024."

There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election, and challenges to myriad election-related issues have been repudiated more than 60 times in court.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/15/poll-majority-iowa-gop-caucus-goers-dont-believe-biden-legitimately-won-2020/

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A lot of Democrats didn't and don't believe that George Bush legitimately won in 2000, but fortunately they are Democrats and so can believe that without being excoriated by the national media.

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They didn't attack the Capitol

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IOWA AD SPENDING

TRUMP:
Spent: $18.2 Million
Dollars per vote: $340

ROB:
Spent: $34 Million
Dollars per vote: $1,697.96

HALEY:
Spent: $36 Million
Dollars per vote: $1,797.84

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) January 16, 2024

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There simply is no getting around the cult of personality.

I appreciate that DeSantis tried. But it's going to be Trump again for the loss.

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Yep

Reminds me when old white guy McCain got the Republican nomination. Anyone with eyes should have been able to see that he would stand no chance against the younger novelty running as a media caressed incumbent.

At least McCain was a good, decent , well spoken man.

Trump will go into full freak out mode long before Election Day.

Going to be sickening.

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Poll: Majority of Iowa GOP caucus-goers don't believe Biden legitimately won in 2020
Preliminary Iowa Republican caucus entrance polls on Monday highlighted the grip former president Donald Trump maintains on Republican voters and the extent to which his false claims that the 2020 election was rigged have dominated the GOP electorate.

Nearly two-thirds of Iowa caucus-goers said President Biden did not legitimately win the election in 2020, according to results from network entrance polls conducted by Edison Research.
Those numbers come as Trump has made false claims surrounding the 2020 election a key part of his stump speechand his bid for a return to the White House. During a campaign event in Indianola, Iowa, this weekend ahead of his caucus victory Monday night, Trump declared that "radical-left Democrats rigged the presidential election of 2020, and we are not going to allow them to rig the presidential election of 2024."

There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election, and challenges to myriad election-related issues have been repudiated more than 60 times in court.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/15/poll-majority-iowa-gop-caucus-goers-dont-believe-biden-legitimately-won-2020/

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A lot of Democrats didn't and don't believe that George Bush legitimately won in 2000, but fortunately they are Democrats and so can believe that without being excoriated by the national media.

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They didn't attack the Capitol

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Gonna be funny as Hell when all the January 6th grannies and grandpas along with their Selfie sticks, cell phones , and Trump flags are given a pardon by President elect Trump.

There will be a river of Liberal tears. It will be beautiful. Perhaps we can make January 6th a national holiday. It will be perfect stuck right there between New Year's Day and MLK, Jr.'s birthday! Perhaps we could make it on Ashli Babbitt's birthday instead to spread it out a little bit.

What goes around comes around. The pendulum is about to swing back HARD!!!

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IOWA AD SPENDING

TRUMP:
Spent: $18.2 Million
Dollars per vote: $340

ROB:
Spent: $34 Million
Dollars per vote: $1,697.96

HALEY:
Spent: $36 Million
Dollars per vote: $1,797.84

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) January 16, 2024

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There simply is no getting around the cult of personality.

I appreciate that DeSantis tried. But it's going to be Trump again for the loss.

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Yep

Reminds me when old white guy McCain got the Republican nomination. Anyone with eyes should have been able to see that he would stand no chance against the younger novelty running as a media caressed incumbent.

At least McCain was a good, decent , well spoken man.

Trump will go into full freak out mode long before Election Day.

Going to be sickening.

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Poll: Majority of Iowa GOP caucus-goers don't believe Biden legitimately won in 2020
Preliminary Iowa Republican caucus entrance polls on Monday highlighted the grip former president Donald Trump maintains on Republican voters and the extent to which his false claims that the 2020 election was rigged have dominated the GOP electorate.

Nearly two-thirds of Iowa caucus-goers said President Biden did not legitimately win the election in 2020, according to results from network entrance polls conducted by Edison Research.
Those numbers come as Trump has made false claims surrounding the 2020 election a key part of his stump speechand his bid for a return to the White House. During a campaign event in Indianola, Iowa, this weekend ahead of his caucus victory Monday night, Trump declared that "radical-left Democrats rigged the presidential election of 2020, and we are not going to allow them to rig the presidential election of 2024."

There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election, and challenges to myriad election-related issues have been repudiated more than 60 times in court.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/01/15/poll-majority-iowa-gop-caucus-goers-dont-believe-biden-legitimately-won-2020/

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A lot of Democrats didn't and don't believe that George Bush legitimately won in 2000, but fortunately they are Democrats and so can believe that without being excoriated by the national media.

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They didn't attack the Capitol

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I don't know, I live in Florda it was pretty brutal here.

Reporter: “Do you believe that Joe Biden’s presidency is God’s will?”

House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA): “The Bible says that God is the one that raises up people in authority … It must have been God’s will, then.” pic.twitter.com/yVadGkgMvA

— The Recount (@therecount) January 17, 2024

But you're cool with Biden and his policies.

Trump brags that he “aced” a dementia test: they always show you the first one like a giraffe, a tiger, a whale. Which one is the whale? pic.twitter.com/lju83XxmiX

— Acyn (@Acyn) January 18, 2024

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The massive and historic size of Trump's victory should lead to some self-reflection about what caused the complete collapse of faith in the legitimacy of US institutions of authority and justice, whereby voters so easily disregard 4 felony cases as irrelevant if not an asset.

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) January 16, 2024

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bingo

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The early results show an extraordinary educational divide, with Haley winning highly-educated areas but failing to obtain 10 percent in many less educated precincts pic.twitter.com/rjvq6NBqjg

— Nate Cohn (@Nate_Cohn) January 16, 2024

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In other words, the dumb people vote for Trump. There's a shocker.

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They vote. I appreciate finally having a candidate willing to make appeals to them. Democrats certainly have no reservations about doing it. Hell, they actually try to turn the educated into the dumb (woke) with identitarian ideology that shuts down reason and leads to irrational social chaos.

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Don't be distracted by Biden's weakness; Trump is still the candidate he wants to run against.

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Quite blind to reality, one is. Democrats are terrified of him. Literally engaging in authoritarian lawfare and regulatory action to prevent him from running. If he really was the easiest to beat, they'd be standing by quietly licking their chops, not trying wild-assed extraordinaries to put him in jail and strike him from the ballot.

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Redbrickbear said:

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The massive and historic size of Trump's victory should lead to some self-reflection about what caused the complete collapse of faith in the legitimacy of US institutions of authority and justice, whereby voters so easily disregard 4 felony cases as irrelevant if not an asset.

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) January 16, 2024

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bingo

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Ok, Trump won big in Iowa. It's Iowa. The demographics in Iowa play well to Trump. He has a lead, but let's not attribute on Primary win in Iowa as the collapse of the US Political System.

He is going to win big in SC too. Just like Iowa the demographics play well to his message and supporters.

Let's see how he does in NH and on Super Tuesday. If he comes out of Super Tuesday like Iowa, it is over and the question of why his indictments are being overlooked is valid. Media loves to get ahead of themselves.

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Redbrickbear said:

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The massive and historic size of Trump's victory should lead to some self-reflection about what caused the complete collapse of faith in the legitimacy of US institutions of authority and justice, whereby voters so easily disregard 4 felony cases as irrelevant if not an asset.

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) January 16, 2024

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bingo

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Ok, Trump won big in Iowa. It's Iowa. The demographics in Iowa play well to Trump. He has a lead, but let's not attribute on Primary win in Iowa as the collapse of the US Political System.

He is going to win big in SC too. Just like Iowa the demographics play well to his message and supporters.

Let's see how he does in NH and on Super Tuesday. If he comes out of Super Tuesday like Iowa, it is over and the question of why his indictments are being overlooked is valid. Media loves to get ahead of themselves.

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I didn't. But, you know, IA used to be a purple state and now it's not, Why are all the formerly solid blue Great Lakes states now the purple battlegrounds (or outright red like OH).?

So many Trump detractors allow visceral aversion to obscure the dynamics at play. They are fairly obvious, and entirely healthy.

🚨 Reporters GASP live on-air as Americans most powerful Banker praises Trump policies, defends the MAGA movement and BLASTS Biden for demonizing 75 million Americans.

“Trump was right about NATO, immigration, the economy… Democrats need to GROW UP”

Jaime Diamond, JPMorgan CEO pic.twitter.com/zLPmyCO4Cu

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) January 17, 2024

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The early results show an extraordinary educational divide, with Haley winning highly-educated areas but failing to obtain 10 percent in many less educated precincts pic.twitter.com/rjvq6NBqjg

— Nate Cohn (@Nate_Cohn) January 16, 2024

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In other words, the dumb people vote for Trump. There's a shocker.

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They vote. I appreciate finally having a candidate willing to make appeals to them. Democrats certainly have no reservations about doing it. Hell, they actually try to turn the educated into the dumb (woke) with identitarian ideology that shuts down reason and leads to irrational social chaos.

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If he was actually instituting policies to help them, that would be one thing. But instead he appeals to their basest emotions. I am not sure that's a good thing.

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The early results show an extraordinary educational divide, with Haley winning highly-educated areas but failing to obtain 10 percent in many less educated precincts pic.twitter.com/rjvq6NBqjg

— Nate Cohn (@Nate_Cohn) January 16, 2024

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In other words, the dumb people vote for Trump. There's a shocker.

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They vote. I appreciate finally having a candidate willing to make appeals to them. Democrats certainly have no reservations about doing it. Hell, they actually try to turn the educated into the dumb (woke) with identitarian ideology that shuts down reason and leads to irrational social chaos.

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If he was actually instituting policies to help them, that would be one thing. But instead he appeals to their basest emotions. I am not sure that's a good thing.

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I think he does some of both. We often wonder how authoritarian regimes came to power historically. We're seeing how it works now in real time. They appeal to legitimate grievances, and to some extent they do offer relief.

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Don't be distracted by Biden's weakness; Trump is still the candidate he wants to run against.

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Quite blind to reality, one is. Democrats are terrified of him. Literally engaging in authoritarian lawfare and regulatory action to prevent him from running. If he really was the easiest to beat, they'd be standing by quietly licking their chops, not trying wild-assed extraordinaries to put him in jail and strike him from the ballot.

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While I think they're more frightened by the prospect of a Trump presidency, make no mistake - their best chance of winning is Trump running, not Haley or DeSantis. Saw an article on it a few days ago in the NYT. Insiders on Biden's team are saying the same thing.

Recent polls show it would be a closer race if it's Trump vs Biden as opposed to Haley or DeSantis vs. Biden, who should beat Biden more easily. I just posted one from a few days ago. Our best chance of losing in 2024 is running Trump (and we will lose if it's him - wait and see).

NEW COLUMN: The Next Million Fentanyl Deaths are on You, New Hampshire pic.twitter.com/nd9ZJMe0Ic

— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) January 17, 2024

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Don't be distracted by Biden's weakness; Trump is still the candidate he wants to run against.

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Quite blind to reality, one is. Democrats are terrified of him. Literally engaging in authoritarian lawfare and regulatory action to prevent him from running. If he really was the easiest to beat, they'd be standing by quietly licking their chops, not trying wild-assed extraordinaries to put him in jail and strike him from the ballot.

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BTW, here is another recent poll showing Trump losing to Biden.

Again.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-suffers-double-polling-blow-1861753

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Osodecentx said:

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Don't be distracted by Biden's weakness; Trump is still the candidate he wants to run against.

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Quite blind to reality, one is. Democrats are terrified of him. Literally engaging in authoritarian lawfare and regulatory action to prevent him from running. If he really was the easiest to beat, they'd be standing by quietly licking their chops, not trying wild-assed extraordinaries to put him in jail and strike him from the ballot.

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BTW, here is another recent poll showing Trump losing to Biden.

Again.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-suffers-double-polling-blow-1861753

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Its about who you ask and how you ask it

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Its about who you ask and how you ask it

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Well, except that Haley and DeSantis have been polling better than Trump for weeks.

No doubt it will be another close election (loss, IMO) if it's Trump. But give me a candidate who can soundly beat Biden, instead of a retread loser who hasn't won a thing since 2016.

Where exactly have DeSantis and Haley been polling ahead of Trump?

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Where exactly have DeSantis and Haley been polling ahead of Trump?

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Read the link in the post about 5 posts above mine, as well as the separate thread I started that includes another poll that says the same thing.

https://sicem365.com/forums/7/topics/134912

I've posted 2-3 others over the last couple of months as well.

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Where exactly have DeSantis and Haley been polling ahead of Trump?

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gen election vs Biden, not primarys

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Where exactly have DeSantis and Haley been polling ahead of Trump?

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gen election vs Biden, not primarys

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Yeah, I thought that was clear based on what we were discussing, but he may have misunderstood.

Thursday morning at 1:00 a.m.:

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A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES MUST HAVE FULL IMMUNITY, WITHOUT WHICH IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR HIM/HER TO PROPERLY FUNCTION. ANY MISTAKE, EVEN IF WELL INTENDED, WOULD BE MET WITH ALMOST CERTAIN INDICTMENT BY THE OPPOSING PARTY AT TERM END. EVEN EVENTS THAT "CROSS THE LINE" MUST FALL UNDER TOTAL IMMUNITY, OR IT WILL BE YEARS OF TRAUMA TRYING TO DETERMINE GOOD FROM BAD. THERE MUST BE CERTAINTY. EXAMPLE: YOU CAN'T STOP POLICE FROM DOING THE JOB OF STRONG & EFFECTIVE CRIME PREVENTION BECAUSE YOU WANT TO GUARD AGAINST THE OCCASIONAL "ROGUE COP" OR "BAD APPLE." SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO LIVE WITH "GREAT BUT SLIGHTLY IMPERFECT." ALL PRESIDENTS MUST HAVE COMPLETE & TOTAL PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY, OR THE AUTHORITY & DECISIVENESS OF A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WILL BE STRIPPED & GONE FOREVER. HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE AN EASY DECISION. GOD BLESS THE SUPREME COURT!
Donald Trump Truth Social 12:59 AM EST 01/18/24

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I suspect that Trump will win the Republican Primary hands down and either the establishment (with help from the dems) will find a way to keep him from being the nominee and slide Nikki Haley into his spot

or

They Trump ends up being the nominee and then they'll convince Haley to run independent.

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Redbrickbear said:

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The massive and historic size of Trump's victory should lead to some self-reflection about what caused the complete collapse of faith in the legitimacy of US institutions of authority and justice, whereby voters so easily disregard 4 felony cases as irrelevant if not an asset.

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) January 16, 2024

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bingo

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Ok, Trump won big in Iowa. It's Iowa. The demographics in Iowa play well to Trump. He has a lead, but let's not attribute on Primary win in Iowa as the collapse of the US Political System.

He is going to win big in SC too. Just like Iowa the demographics play well to his message and supporters.

Let's see how he does in NH and on Super Tuesday. If he comes out of Super Tuesday like Iowa, it is over and the question of why his indictments are being overlooked is valid. Media loves to get ahead of themselves.

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I didn't. But, you know, IA used to be a purple state and now it's not, Why are all the formerly solid blue Great Lakes states now the purple battlegrounds (or outright red like OH).?

So many Trump detractors allow visceral aversion to obscure the dynamics at play. They are fairly obvious, and entirely healthy.

🚨 Reporters GASP live on-air as Americans most powerful Banker praises Trump policies, defends the MAGA movement and BLASTS Biden for demonizing 75 million Americans.

“Trump was right about NATO, immigration, the economy… Democrats need to GROW UP”

Jaime Diamond, JPMorgan CEO pic.twitter.com/zLPmyCO4Cu

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) January 17, 2024

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That had to make the "globalist elite" Trumpers wince a little. When someone like Nikki Haley gets praise from similar ilk the "corporate establishment panderer" charge gets thrown.

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Where exactly have DeSantis and Haley been polling ahead of Trump?

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Read the link in the post about 5 posts above mine, as well as the separate thread I started that includes another poll that says the same thing.

https://sicem365.com/forums/7/topics/134912

I've posted 2-3 others over the last couple of months as well.

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So you found one or two you like.

Sorry Clark, that does not make your statement true, as there are far more polls showing Trump in firm command.

Bottom line is that while DeSantis has governed well and Haley sometimes makes points, they are both piss-poor campaigners.

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whiterock said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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The massive and historic size of Trump's victory should lead to some self-reflection about what caused the complete collapse of faith in the legitimacy of US institutions of authority and justice, whereby voters so easily disregard 4 felony cases as irrelevant if not an asset.

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) January 16, 2024

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bingo

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Ok, Trump won big in Iowa. It's Iowa. The demographics in Iowa play well to Trump. He has a lead, but let's not attribute on Primary win in Iowa as the collapse of the US Political System.

He is going to win big in SC too. Just like Iowa the demographics play well to his message and supporters.

Let's see how he does in NH and on Super Tuesday. If he comes out of Super Tuesday like Iowa, it is over and the question of why his indictments are being overlooked is valid. Media loves to get ahead of themselves.

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I didn't. But, you know, IA used to be a purple state and now it's not, Why are all the formerly solid blue Great Lakes states now the purple battlegrounds (or outright red like OH).?

So many Trump detractors allow visceral aversion to obscure the dynamics at play. They are fairly obvious, and entirely healthy.

🚨 Reporters GASP live on-air as Americans most powerful Banker praises Trump policies, defends the MAGA movement and BLASTS Biden for demonizing 75 million Americans.

“Trump was right about NATO, immigration, the economy… Democrats need to GROW UP”

Jaime Diamond, JPMorgan CEO pic.twitter.com/zLPmyCO4Cu

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) January 17, 2024

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That had to make the "globalist elite" Trumpers wince a little. When someone like Nikki Haley gets praise from similar ilk the "corporate establishment panderer" charge gets thrown.

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I dont think so at all. I think the corporate press will not take kindly to Jamie Dimon saying anything positive about Trump and they will paint him in a negative light over this in some way.

Hannity: What is your closing message to the people of New Hampshire?

Trump: … You take immunity from the president, so important, you will have a president that's not going to be able to do anything. pic.twitter.com/oMbBudzlFu

— Acyn (@Acyn) January 19, 2024

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Its about who you ask and how you ask it

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Well, except that Haley and DeSantis have been polling better than Trump for weeks.

No doubt it will be another close election (loss, IMO) if it's Trump. But give me a candidate who can soundly beat Biden, instead of a retread loser who hasn't won a thing since 2016.

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They don't get it.

They are never going to get it.

They honestly believe the rest of the country thinks and votes like old white guys.

boognish_bear said:

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Hannity: What is your closing message to the people of New Hampshire?

Trump: … You take immunity from the president, so important, you will have a president that's not going to be able to do anything. pic.twitter.com/oMbBudzlFu

— Acyn (@Acyn) January 19, 2024

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Trump is correct in this case.


And even Dems know this.