We need a more critical view of 2000 and 2004. In 2000, Dubya blew a double-digit lead against an opponent who basically ran as generic D, complete with a two-term itch. In 2004 he entered with a vast fundraising advantage, 9/11, incumbency and came within 120k votes of losing

— Daniel (@DanielBerman2) April 7, 2024

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KaiBear: " Despite being the Dem primary front runner; the smarter elements of the Dem Party leadership realized Bernie was very unlikely to win the general election . They did what was required in the world of power politics."

First, you seem to approve of rigging elections if you disagree with the voters. Flatly, I disagree.

Second, have you considered that a big reason Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election, was because Bernie's supporters were outraged by how the DNC made sure Clinton would be the nominee, no matter what the voters said, and while they would never vote for Trump, they helped Trump win by simply not voting at all.

So rigging the primaries proved to be a foolish idea in the end.

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When Trump loses neither of us is going to be thrilled.

But I guarantee you some Republicans will be .

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Oldbear83 said:

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KaiBear: " Despite being the Dem primary front runner; the smarter elements of the Dem Party leadership realized Bernie was very unlikely to win the general election . They did what was required in the world of power politics."

First, you seem to approve of rigging elections if you disagree with the voters. Flatly, I disagree.

Second, have you considered that a big reason Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election, was because Bernie's supporters were outraged by how the DNC made sure Clinton would be the nominee, no matter what the voters said, and while they would never vote for Trump, they helped Trump win by simply not voting at all.

So rigging the primaries proved to be a foolish idea in the end.

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When Trump loses neither of us is going to be thrilled.

But I guarantee you some Republicans will be .

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i guarantee you those arent republicans

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KaiBear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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KaiBear: " Despite being the Dem primary front runner; the smarter elements of the Dem Party leadership realized Bernie was very unlikely to win the general election . They did what was required in the world of power politics."

First, you seem to approve of rigging elections if you disagree with the voters. Flatly, I disagree.

Second, have you considered that a big reason Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election, was because Bernie's supporters were outraged by how the DNC made sure Clinton would be the nominee, no matter what the voters said, and while they would never vote for Trump, they helped Trump win by simply not voting at all.

So rigging the primaries proved to be a foolish idea in the end.

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When Trump loses neither of us is going to be thrilled.

But I guarantee you some Republicans will be .

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i guarantee you those arent republicans

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George Bush and Mitt Romney are definitely Republicans…unfortunately

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KaiBear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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KaiBear: " Despite being the Dem primary front runner; the smarter elements of the Dem Party leadership realized Bernie was very unlikely to win the general election . They did what was required in the world of power politics."

First, you seem to approve of rigging elections if you disagree with the voters. Flatly, I disagree.

Second, have you considered that a big reason Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election, was because Bernie's supporters were outraged by how the DNC made sure Clinton would be the nominee, no matter what the voters said, and while they would never vote for Trump, they helped Trump win by simply not voting at all.

So rigging the primaries proved to be a foolish idea in the end.

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When Trump loses neither of us is going to be thrilled.

But I guarantee you some Republicans will be .

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i guarantee you those arent republicans

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George Bush and Mitt Romney are definitely Republicans…unfortunately

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they are Republicans in an outdated definition.. much like how people like Trump used to be Dems but now fit the GOP better as the GOP shifted moderate and Dems shifted progressive.

The older GOP are really without a party as there is no party that fits their principles/ideals

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KaiBear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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KaiBear: " Despite being the Dem primary front runner; the smarter elements of the Dem Party leadership realized Bernie was very unlikely to win the general election . They did what was required in the world of power politics."

First, you seem to approve of rigging elections if you disagree with the voters. Flatly, I disagree.

Second, have you considered that a big reason Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election, was because Bernie's supporters were outraged by how the DNC made sure Clinton would be the nominee, no matter what the voters said, and while they would never vote for Trump, they helped Trump win by simply not voting at all.

So rigging the primaries proved to be a foolish idea in the end.

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When Trump loses neither of us is going to be thrilled.

But I guarantee you some Republicans will be .

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i guarantee you those arent republicans

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George Bush and Mitt Romney are definitely Republicans…unfortunately

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Yep, the party over people, establishment first, administrative state type of Republican.

It's almost like when one of those type of Republicans won an election, the democrats didn't lose.

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Oldbear83 said:

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KaiBear: " Despite being the Dem primary front runner; the smarter elements of the Dem Party leadership realized Bernie was very unlikely to win the general election . They did what was required in the world of power politics."

First, you seem to approve of rigging elections if you disagree with the voters. Flatly, I disagree.

Second, have you considered that a big reason Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election, was because Bernie's supporters were outraged by how the DNC made sure Clinton would be the nominee, no matter what the voters said, and while they would never vote for Trump, they helped Trump win by simply not voting at all.

So rigging the primaries proved to be a foolish idea in the end.

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When Trump loses neither of us is going to be thrilled.

But I guarantee you some Republicans will be .

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i guarantee you those arent republicans

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George Bush and Mitt Romney are definitely Republicans…unfortunately

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Yep, the party over people, establishment first, administrative state type of Republican.

It's almost like when one of those type of Republicans won an election, the democrats didn't lose.

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Bingo

I call them the kind of Republicans that want to fight a war with Russia to defend the borders of Ukraine but would never lift a finger to protect our own borders.

A buddy calls them "regime 1st Republicans"

Oldbear83 said:

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KaiBear: " Despite being the Dem primary front runner; the smarter elements of the Dem Party leadership realized Bernie was very unlikely to win the general election . They did what was required in the world of power politics."

First, you seem to approve of rigging elections if you disagree with the voters. Flatly, I disagree.

Second, have you considered that a big reason Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election, was because Bernie's supporters were outraged by how the DNC made sure Clinton would be the nominee, no matter what the voters said, and while they would never vote for Trump, they helped Trump win by simply not voting at all.

So rigging the primaries proved to be a foolish idea in the end.

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Bernie had a better chance of winning than did HRC. He surely would have run a better campaign than she did.

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McSally, who was McConnell’s choice, lost twice. Blake Masters lost. Kari Lake is about to lose. Something other than “blame Trump” is turning Arizona blue but nobody wants to ask what that is.

— Cernovich (@Cernovich) April 2, 2024

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The same process that is at work in Texas - relocation from California and massive illegal immigration from across the border. Add to that entrenched power centers of the left in the educational system that is cultivating democrat voters.

Then there's this:

Record Shows Voter Registration Without Photo ID Surges in Three Key Swing States: Arizona, Pennsylvania, and Texas


"The conservative advocacy group End Wokeness brought this trend to light on Tuesday, citing figures that point to a surge since the start of 2024, with Texas experiencing a staggering 1,250,710 such registrations, Pennsylvania with 580,513, and Arizona recording 220,731.

Under the Help America Vote Act of 2002 (HAVA), states are mandated to verify the information of newly registered voters. While the act requires verification against state Motor Vehicle Administration databases, individuals without a driver's license can register using the last four digits of their Social Security Number (SSN).

However, there are mechanisms through which some illegal immigrants might obtain SSNs through work authorization:
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Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA): This policy allows certain individuals who came to the United States as children (DREAMERS) and meet several guidelines to request consideration of deferred action from deportation. Those approved for DACA are also eligible for work authorization in the U.S., and with work authorization, they can apply for an SSN.

Temporary Protected Status (TPS): TPS is granted to eligible nationals of certain countries experiencing problems that make it difficult or unsafe for their nationals to be deported there. Those granted TPS are also eligible for work authorization, and thus, can apply for an SSN.

Other forms of relief: Certain other immigration reliefs and statuses, including asylum or adjustment of status applications, can also grant eligibility for work authorization and subsequently an SSN."

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They've set up the steal for November.

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Or another possibility is that the AZ GOP runs terribly, ****ty candidates. All 3 of those mentioned are absolutely dreadful.

Make no mistake - I agree with you that all of the woke bull**** is happening in AZ, like it is in Texas. But here in Texas, that **** is terribly unpopular, and will likely lose the Dems statewide elections in landslides. I have a hard time believing it's a lot more popular in AZ.

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Stop it with the "MAGA candidates are the problem" nonsense. McSalley was handpicked by the swamp and she lost…..twice.

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So because McSalley was also a bad candidate that means the MAGA candidates weren't absolutely dreadful?

LOL. Ok.

MAGA candidates continue to suck and get their asses handed to them in national elections. Those are the facts.

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Liberal-Conservatives (the old Republican establishment) can't win elections.

The MAGA candidates can't win.

So what's the plan going forward?

I'm willing to believe that Trump type candidates are not viable going forward….but what is the evidence that Nikki Haley or Mitt Romney types are the answer to that problem?

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I think a DeSantis type candidate can win. Someone like Trump, without his worst qualities.

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DeSantis disproved that this year. Great Governor, poor candidate on the national stage.

What's needed is that rare individual able to win over a broad group of voters in a sustained campaign covering the whole nation, yet also able to do the job properly once he wins.

Trump has won the nomination, so we have to hope he A) can win the general election, B) pick a competent cabinet, and C) hardest of all, know when to shut up.

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I am not sure he disproved anything. When you're running against a candidate who has a cult of personality, and who rallied his sycophants against you, that is pretty hard to overcome. DeSantis made mistakes, no question, but he was also getting attacked from all sides. I suspect if Trump weren't running, he would have easily won the nomination, and polls showed him beating Biden.

Indeed, Trump is the nom. I have no hope he can do any of what you describe - the latter two especially. He has a long history of surrounding himself with incompetent people. and has shown zero ability to know when to shut up. There's no reason whatsoever to believe he will learn any semblance of self control at this point.

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“TRUMP’S VIRTUES” pic.twitter.com/GOO2whp1Xm

— Donald J. Trump Posts From His Truth Social (@TrumpDailyPosts) April 6, 2024

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Nothing like proclaiming your own virtues...

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that's exactly what a political campaign is all about.

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Oldbear83 said:

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KaiBear: " Despite being the Dem primary front runner; the smarter elements of the Dem Party leadership realized Bernie was very unlikely to win the general election . They did what was required in the world of power politics."

First, you seem to approve of rigging elections if you disagree with the voters. Flatly, I disagree.

Second, have you considered that a big reason Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election, was because Bernie's supporters were outraged by how the DNC made sure Clinton would be the nominee, no matter what the voters said, and while they would never vote for Trump, they helped Trump win by simply not voting at all.

So rigging the primaries proved to be a foolish idea in the end.

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When Trump loses neither of us is going to be thrilled.

But I guarantee you some Republicans will be .

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For about 20 minutes...

Regardless, the HOR and Senate has to go well. Either of these two with a Dem controlled Congress is a disaster.

How in the hell did we get to these 2 idiots as our Candidates??????

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Oldbear83 said:

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KaiBear: " Despite being the Dem primary front runner; the smarter elements of the Dem Party leadership realized Bernie was very unlikely to win the general election . They did what was required in the world of power politics."

First, you seem to approve of rigging elections if you disagree with the voters. Flatly, I disagree.

Second, have you considered that a big reason Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election, was because Bernie's supporters were outraged by how the DNC made sure Clinton would be the nominee, no matter what the voters said, and while they would never vote for Trump, they helped Trump win by simply not voting at all.

So rigging the primaries proved to be a foolish idea in the end.

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When Trump loses neither of us is going to be thrilled.

But I guarantee you some Republicans will be .

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i guarantee you those arent republicans

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George Bush and Mitt Romney are definitely Republicans…unfortunately

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they are Republicans in an outdated definition.. much like how people like Trump used to be Dems but now fit the GOP better as the GOP shifted moderate and Dems shifted progressive.

The older GOP are really without a party as there is no party that fits their principles/ideals

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I agree that they do not fit the current GOP. But, they are definitely not Democrats. They fit closer to a mix between Reagan & Eisenhower. Strong Defense & Strong US Presence (Reagan) PLUS Social Moderate and Fiscally Conservative (Eisenhower).

With today's costs and the spending on other things, they may not find a home. As many of what the older GOP cost more than our Economy can now handle. They will go Trump or not vote. I don't see many going Biden...

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KaiBear: " Despite being the Dem primary front runner; the smarter elements of the Dem Party leadership realized Bernie was very unlikely to win the general election . They did what was required in the world of power politics."

First, you seem to approve of rigging elections if you disagree with the voters. Flatly, I disagree.

Second, have you considered that a big reason Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election, was because Bernie's supporters were outraged by how the DNC made sure Clinton would be the nominee, no matter what the voters said, and while they would never vote for Trump, they helped Trump win by simply not voting at all.

So rigging the primaries proved to be a foolish idea in the end.

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Bernie had a better chance of winning than did HRC.

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Bernie was certainly more genuine and had a rabid following among liberals and the college crowd.

But he wasn't popular with black democrats and Bernie's policies scared the **** out of most independents.

Strongly doubt he would have beat Trump.

I have never thought Biden would be the Dem's nominee this Fall. Harris would likewise be laterally off with a reward of some position in a Dem administration. I did think that Newsome would be maneuvered into the slot at the last minute, sort of an emergency candidate when Biden decided to step aside. I now think that the Dems, knowing that Joe is a political Titanic in terms of long-term effects, are engaged in an internal fight over the future of the party (Marxist ideals/progrssives vs. old guard Dems) and the battle is now joined by those who are moving away from the ridiculous far-left are trying to right the ship. I believe that Jamie Dimon is now "running" an informal campaign in the attempt to "go politically Clinton" on the Dem party. Going to be interesting for the nation and for Trump if the Dems move away for the radical socialistic bent and start sounding like governing takes precedence over control.

Pence condemns Trump's latest stance on abortion: "Trump's retreat on the Right to Life is a slap in the face to the millions of pro-life Americans." https://t.co/2ewb5n9Tuk

— Axios (@axios) April 8, 2024

Trump still going after Sen. Lindsey Graham R-SC. Graham criticized Trump's statement on abortion: "I respectfully disagree with President Trump's statement that abortion is a state's rights issue" pic.twitter.com/yUMhpRFPF7

— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) April 8, 2024

Lindsey Graham: “They are trying to drain him dry...They're trying to bleed him dry. Donald J. Trump dot com. Go tonight. Give the president some money to fight this bullshit! This is going to destroy America!"
(March 2023)
pic.twitter.com/KcZSWiENrN

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) April 8, 2024

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Trump still going after Sen. Lindsey Graham R-SC. Graham criticized Trump's statement on abortion: "I respectfully disagree with President Trump's statement that abortion is a state's rights issue" pic.twitter.com/yUMhpRFPF7

— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) April 8, 2024

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So now Lindsey Graham is a disloyal, loser? If so, why did he endorse him?

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Trump still going after Sen. Lindsey Graham R-SC. Graham criticized Trump's statement on abortion: "I respectfully disagree with President Trump's statement that abortion is a state's rights issue" pic.twitter.com/yUMhpRFPF7

— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) April 8, 2024

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So now Lindsey Graham is a disloyal, loser? If so, why did he endorse him?

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Lindsey reaps the whirlwind

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Trump still going after Sen. Lindsey Graham R-SC. Graham criticized Trump's statement on abortion: "I respectfully disagree with President Trump's statement that abortion is a state's rights issue" pic.twitter.com/yUMhpRFPF7

— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) April 8, 2024

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So now Lindsey Graham is a disloyal, loser? If so, why did he endorse him?

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Lindsey reaps the whirlwind

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Lindsey showing moderates can be particularly bad at playing team ball.

The position Trump stated on abortion has been my position all along. It's the only sensible, governable position there is: Use the federal system they way it was designed. Allowing states to govern on the most contentious issues (like abortion) where there is no super-majority consensus (and likely never will be) prevents those issue from bogging down the federal system. Instead, it allows 50 state legislatures to tinker with the issue, finding successes and failures that each of the states can use to tweak legislation going forward. (Nothing radical there, just stuff straight from the high school civics class textbook).

the 10th Amendment solution that movement Conservatives talk about on a wide range of issues (where they are being frustrated at the federal level) means letting go of control at the federal level.....

Republicans who don't like Trump's position need to be.....pragmatic. They'll like Biden less than Trump, and in 4 years, there will be another primary election leading to state and national conventions which afford them a process to have a candidate and platform better to their liking. Play team ball. Then come back in 4 years and fight like hell again. Accept the outcome. Get on board. Then in 4-8 years, repeat the process.

Objectively speaking, Trump is correct. The Supreme Court has ruled as much in overturning Roe v Wade. The problem is that Big Baby is essentially a DC based GOP fundraising apparatus with a weak ground game outside the beltway. Which is why when the left takes this fight to the states, they are winning.

The pro life movement needs to get better at urban combat in the new world they find themselves in.

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Trump still going after Sen. Lindsey Graham R-SC. Graham criticized Trump's statement on abortion: "I respectfully disagree with President Trump's statement that abortion is a state's rights issue" pic.twitter.com/yUMhpRFPF7

— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) April 8, 2024

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So now Lindsey Graham is a disloyal, loser? If so, why did he endorse him?

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Lindsey reaps the whirlwind

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Lindsey showing moderates can be particularly bad at playing team ball.

The position Trump stated on abortion has been my position all along. It's the only sensible, governable position there is: Use the federal system they way it was designed. Allowing states to govern on the most contentious issues (like abortion) where there is no super-majority consensus (and likely never will be) prevents those issue from bogging down the federal system. Instead, it allows 50 state legislatures to tinker with the issue, finding successes and failures that each of the states can use to tweak legislation going forward. (Nothing radical there, just stuff straight from the high school civics class textbook).

the 10th Amendment solution that movement Conservatives talk about on a wide range of issues (where they are being frustrated at the federal level) means letting go of control at the federal level.....

Republicans who don't like Trump's position need to be.....pragmatic. They'll like Biden less than Trump, and in 4 years, there will be another primary election leading to state and national conventions which afford them a process to have a candidate and platform better to their liking. Play team ball. Then come back in 4 years and fight like hell again. Accept the outcome. Get on board. Then in 4-8 years, repeat the process.

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Another self-inflicted wound by Trump. He just can't help himself. While I actually agree with him on the states rights issue, know your audience, dumbass. Know that there is a very large contingent of your party who finds abortion reprehensible and wants to see it outlawed at the federal level.

As the partisan hack you are, you're going to have to do a whole lot more covering for him over the next few months, I fear. We've hitched our wagon to an unstable and uncontrollable loser.

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Trump still going after Sen. Lindsey Graham R-SC. Graham criticized Trump's statement on abortion: "I respectfully disagree with President Trump's statement that abortion is a state's rights issue" pic.twitter.com/yUMhpRFPF7

— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) April 8, 2024

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So now Lindsey Graham is a disloyal, loser? If so, why did he endorse him?

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Lindsey reaps the whirlwind

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Lindsey showing moderates can be particularly bad at playing team ball.

The position Trump stated on abortion has been my position all along. It's the only sensible, governable position there is: Use the federal system they way it was designed. Allowing states to govern on the most contentious issues (like abortion) where there is no super-majority consensus (and likely never will be) prevents those issue from bogging down the federal system. Instead, it allows 50 state legislatures to tinker with the issue, finding successes and failures that each of the states can use to tweak legislation going forward. (Nothing radical there, just stuff straight from the high school civics class textbook).

the 10th Amendment solution that movement Conservatives talk about on a wide range of issues (where they are being frustrated at the federal level) means letting go of control at the federal level.....

Republicans who don't like Trump's position need to be.....pragmatic. They'll like Biden less than Trump, and in 4 years, there will be another primary election leading to state and national conventions which afford them a process to have a candidate and platform better to their liking. Play team ball. Then come back in 4 years and fight like hell again. Accept the outcome. Get on board. Then in 4-8 years, repeat the process.

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Another self-inflicted wound by Trump. He just can't help himself. While I actually agree with him on the states rights issue, know your audience, dumbass. Know that there is a very large contingent of your party who finds abortion reprehensible and wants to see it outlawed at the federal level.

As the partisan hack you are, you're going to have to do a whole lot more covering for him over the next few months, I fear. We've hitched our wagon to an unstable and uncontrollable loser.

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The only person harmed by a self-inflicted wound here is Lindsey......

The pro-life activists have plenty of work to do, AT THE STATE LEVEL.

Democrat coalition coming apart at the seams

this is why @hasanthehun's viewership shattered

if he wants his views back his only hope is to go full MAGA https://t.co/jI76LFaC5l

— Tim Pool (@Timcast) April 9, 2024

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Trump still going after Sen. Lindsey Graham R-SC. Graham criticized Trump's statement on abortion: "I respectfully disagree with President Trump's statement that abortion is a state's rights issue" pic.twitter.com/yUMhpRFPF7

— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) April 8, 2024

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So now Lindsey Graham is a disloyal, loser? If so, why did he endorse him?

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Lindsey reaps the whirlwind

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Lindsey showing moderates can be particularly bad at playing team ball.

The position Trump stated on abortion has been my position all along. It's the only sensible, governable position there is: Use the federal system they way it was designed. Allowing states to govern on the most contentious issues (like abortion) where there is no super-majority consensus (and likely never will be) prevents those issue from bogging down the federal system. Instead, it allows 50 state legislatures to tinker with the issue, finding successes and failures that each of the states can use to tweak legislation going forward. (Nothing radical there, just stuff straight from the high school civics class textbook).

the 10th Amendment solution that movement Conservatives talk about on a wide range of issues (where they are being frustrated at the federal level) means letting go of control at the federal level.....

Republicans who don't like Trump's position need to be.....pragmatic. They'll like Biden less than Trump, and in 4 years, there will be another primary election leading to state and national conventions which afford them a process to have a candidate and platform better to their liking. Play team ball. Then come back in 4 years and fight like hell again. Accept the outcome. Get on board. Then in 4-8 years, repeat the process.

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Another self-inflicted wound by Trump. He just can't help himself. While I actually agree with him on the states rights issue, know your audience, dumbass. Know that there is a very large contingent of your party who finds abortion reprehensible and wants to see it outlawed at the federal level.

As the partisan hack you are, you're going to have to do a whole lot more covering for him over the next few months, I fear. We've hitched our wagon to an unstable and uncontrollable loser.

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The only person harmed by a self-inflicted wound here is Lindsey......

The pro-life activists have plenty of work to do, AT THE STATE LEVEL.

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If that's the case, then why are you shilling for Trump? Why are you encouraging people who don't like Trump's statements to "be pragmatic," as you say, and vote Trump because Biden's worse? Why did you feel the need to make the argument if this isn't a self-inflicted wound?

Your actions say otherwise. Pro lifers aren't very happy with Trump's recent takes on abortion.

Biden also struggling to maintain share of the black vote. And typically, when a demographic frays like that, turnout is also a problem = Biden is facing a smaller share of a smaller turnout. Unhelpful math on multiple demographics is a difficult problem to manage.

https://thefederalist.com/2024/04/08/black-voters-disillusionment-with-biden-could-help-trump-pull-off-a-2016-repeat/

more bad math for Biden

I love it when the fake news has to report a discrepancy between their narrative and reality.

They treat it like a mystery. Lol. https://t.co/Knm4OP1o05

— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) April 9, 2024

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Democrat coalition coming apart at the seams

this is why @hasanthehun's viewership shattered

if he wants his views back his only hope is to go full MAGA https://t.co/jI76LFaC5l

— Tim Pool (@Timcast) April 9, 2024

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in polling..

The Dems have given Trump the pathway with their disastrous pro fringe/anti-middle America policies

their pro war policies have cost Biden part of the coalition, their pro elite/anti-blue-collar policies has cost them, especially in the minority communities

These disgruntled will sit home or vote for Trump

I'm telling you guys, Joe isn't going to be the Dem nominee for President this Fall. They are trying to play whack-a-mole political chess against Trump with an internal war going on.

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I'm telling you guys, Joe isn't going to be the Dem nominee for President this Fall. They are trying to play whack-a-mole political chess against Trump with an internal war going on.

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Time is not on the Democrats' side if they want to switch out Joe. Most states have laws regarding eligibility declarations. In fact, Biden has a problem already in Ohio because his convention is almost two weeks later than the deadline for the Democrats to declare a nominee and get on the Ohio ballot.

Sure he could get votes via write-in, but that's a half-assed way to go about it and even though no one thinks Biden will win Ohio, it just shows how messed up the whole DNC is right now. For all the talk about how prepped and savvy they are, this year they just are not.

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While I actually agree with him on the states rights issue, know your audience, dumbass. Know that there is a very large contingent of your party who finds abortion reprehensible and wants to see it outlawed at the federal level.

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The reality of the America that we live in today is that a national abortion ban is about as likely as bringing back prohibition. Pro-life Christians are a minority of the electorate. Atheism, Judaism, and Islam all allow for abortion.

Any national law on abortion is going to legalize abortion nationwide in some fashion, perhaps restricted to the first trimester.

Pro life voters need to figure out if legalizing abortion in the first trimester nationwide is a more acceptable alternative to keeping it a state level fight where Californians and New Yorkers are allowed to sacrifice all their babies to Moloch while Texans and Floridians are allowed to sacrifice almost none of them

From a divine judgment perspective I (as a pro lifer) prefer the state level solution.

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While I actually agree with him on the states rights issue, know your audience, dumbass. Know that there is a very large contingent of your party who finds abortion reprehensible and wants to see it outlawed at the federal level.

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The reality of the America that we live in today is that a national abortion ban is about as likely as bringing back prohibition. Pro-life Christians are a minority of the electorate. Atheism, Judaism, and Islam all allow for abortion.

Any national law on abortion is going to legalize abortion nationwide in some fashion, perhaps restricted to the first trimester.

Pro life voters need to figure out if legalizing abortion in the first trimester nationwide is a more acceptable alternative to keeping it a state level fight where Californians and New Yorkers are allowed to sacrifice all their babies to Moloch while Texans and Floridians are allowed to sacrifice almost none of them

From a divine judgment perspective I (as a pro lifer) prefer the state level solution.

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I don't disagree with you. My point is different. Trump shouldn't say things to alienate his base - things that do him no good, politically, if he wants to win this November.

Despite whiterock's typical spin of all things Trump, this was a self-inflicted wound by a guy who has a long history of being unable to control his mouth and his worst impulses.

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Objectively speaking, Trump is correct. The Supreme Court has ruled as much in overturning Roe v Wade. The problem is that Big Baby is essentially a DC based GOP fundraising apparatus with a weak ground game outside the beltway. Which is why when the left takes this fight to the states, they are winning.

The pro life movement needs to get better at urban combat in the new world they find themselves in.

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Yep. Using the 10th amendment to devolve power back to the states doesn't mean the issue goes away. it actually becomes 50x larger.

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Exactly

On this particular issue Trump is playing it correctly.


And the gay senator from South Carolina is a war loving idiot.

Needs to be replaced asap.