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sombear
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4th and Inches said:

sombear said:

Jack Bauer said:

Redbrickbear said:


Yes, she is essentially 'in charge' as Joe Biden is pretty much in the retirement home.
It's not complicated.

Anything/anyone normal beats Trump.

Kamala is not normal.

But voters think she is.

No reason to rock that boat.
lets watch the polls.. seen two start to swing back towards Trump so far.
For sure.

But the Harris kick-off has gone far better than she expected and far worse than Trump expected.

Until there is a clear shift back to Trump (state more than national) Harris will not change her approach. Harris and her team know that, if they win, it will be ultra-close. On the other hand, she could lose big.

The longer Trump focuses on issues that don't matter to most people, the more unlikely the strong shift back to him. His own campaign and polling teams and his own family (except one of his sons) are telling him this. So far, he hasn't listened.

In the plainest terms: Voters know Trump dodged military service and has a history of poor character. That is built in. Nothing Harris or Walz have done will change that, and voters that count will never see Trump as a better person. They just won't, and that's from his own pollsters.

Trump has one advantage, and it is the most significant one: Policy.
Redbrickbear
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Bestweekeverr said:

boognish_bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Jack Bauer said:

"Many students" would mean females. Why are they in boys bathrooms?




I for one have no problem with providing hygiene materials, compared to the alternative.


I honestly can't tell is you did not read what the controversy is about…or if you are trolling…

The issue is NOT that they are paying for tampons in the girls bathrooms

It's that they are making the boys bathrooms have them
What is their reasoning for doing that?
The bill does not mention boy's restrooms and does not make it mandatory for all boy's restroom's to carry tampons.

It requires that all menstruating students be given access to menstruating products and leaves it up to individual schools to stock their male restrooms with products if they do have FtM trans students.



Here is the text posted below...

Its pretty obvious the intent is to have ALL bathrooms at ALL schools stocked with tampons...regardless of if its the boys restroom

In fact there would be no controversy if the Liberals in Minnesota could have just been normal and said all women's restrooms at school should have these products.

But no...they of course had to play to radical LGBTQ and trans advocacy groups.


[21A.212 ACCESS TO MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS.

A school district or charter school must provide students with access to menstrual products at no charge. The products must be available to all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12 according to a plan developed by the school district. For purposes of this section, "menstrual products" means pads, tampons, or other similar products used in connection with the menstrual cycle.]

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/121A.212
FLBear5630
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Redbrickbear said:

Bestweekeverr said:

boognish_bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Jack Bauer said:

"Many students" would mean females. Why are they in boys bathrooms?




I for one have no problem with providing hygiene materials, compared to the alternative.


I honestly can't tell is you did not read what the controversy is about…or if you are trolling…

The issue is NOT that they are paying for tampons in the girls bathrooms

It's that they are making the boys bathrooms have them
What is their reasoning for doing that?
The bill does not mention boy's restrooms and does not make it mandatory for all boy's restroom's to carry tampons.

It requires that all menstruating students be given access to menstruating products and leaves it up to individual schools to stock their male restrooms with products if they do have FtM trans students.



Here is the text posted below...

Its pretty obvious the intent is to have ALL bathrooms at ALL schools stocked with tampons...regardless of if its the boys restroom

In fact there would be no controversy if the Liberals in Minnesota could have just been normal and said all women's restrooms at school should have these products.

But no...they of course had to play to radical LGBTQ and trans advocacy groups.


[21A.212 ACCESS TO MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS.

A school district or charter school must provide students with access to menstrual products at no charge. The products must be available to all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12 according to a plan developed by the school district. For purposes of this section, "menstrual products" means pads, tampons, or other similar products used in connection with the menstrual cycle.]

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/121A.212
Is this really that much of an issue to generate this much angst?
BaylorGuy314
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FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Bestweekeverr said:

boognish_bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Jack Bauer said:

"Many students" would mean females. Why are they in boys bathrooms?




I for one have no problem with providing hygiene materials, compared to the alternative.


I honestly can't tell is you did not read what the controversy is about…or if you are trolling…

The issue is NOT that they are paying for tampons in the girls bathrooms

It's that they are making the boys bathrooms have them
What is their reasoning for doing that?
The bill does not mention boy's restrooms and does not make it mandatory for all boy's restroom's to carry tampons.

It requires that all menstruating students be given access to menstruating products and leaves it up to individual schools to stock their male restrooms with products if they do have FtM trans students.



Here is the text posted below...

Its pretty obvious the intent is to have ALL bathrooms at ALL schools stocked with tampons...regardless of if its the boys restroom

In fact there would be no controversy if the Liberals in Minnesota could have just been normal and said all women's restrooms at school should have these products.

But no...they of course had to play to radical LGBTQ and trans advocacy groups.


[21A.212 ACCESS TO MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS.

A school district or charter school must provide students with access to menstrual products at no charge. The products must be available to all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12 according to a plan developed by the school district. For purposes of this section, "menstrual products" means pads, tampons, or other similar products used in connection with the menstrual cycle.]

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/121A.212
Is this really that much of an issue to generate this much angst?

In theory, no.

We act like the issue is complicated, but it's not.

You (basically) have two sides. Side 1 is taking the emotional support angle and saying "You are what you feel like you are" in a supportive role. While Side 2 is saying, "You are what your chromosomes say you are- no matter what you look or feel like."

The issue would be dead except for Side 1 wants Side 2 to agree with them and make accommodations accordingly. That's where the rub occurs.

Redbrickbear
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FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Bestweekeverr said:

boognish_bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Jack Bauer said:

"Many students" would mean females. Why are they in boys bathrooms?




I for one have no problem with providing hygiene materials, compared to the alternative.


I honestly can't tell is you did not read what the controversy is about…or if you are trolling…

The issue is NOT that they are paying for tampons in the girls bathrooms

It's that they are making the boys bathrooms have them
What is their reasoning for doing that?
The bill does not mention boy's restrooms and does not make it mandatory for all boy's restroom's to carry tampons.

It requires that all menstruating students be given access to menstruating products and leaves it up to individual schools to stock their male restrooms with products if they do have FtM trans students.



Here is the text posted below...

Its pretty obvious the intent is to have ALL bathrooms at ALL schools stocked with tampons...regardless of if its the boys restroom

In fact there would be no controversy if the Liberals in Minnesota could have just been normal and said all women's restrooms at school should have these products.

But no...they of course had to play to radical LGBTQ and trans advocacy groups.


[21A.212 ACCESS TO MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS.

A school district or charter school must provide students with access to menstrual products at no charge. The products must be available to all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12 according to a plan developed by the school district. For purposes of this section, "menstrual products" means pads, tampons, or other similar products used in connection with the menstrual cycle.]

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/121A.212
Is this really that much of an issue to generate this much angst?

People resent social engineering and cultural reconstruction.

Providing free tampons at school does not create angst among anyone...trying to force the idea down peoples throats that there are "boys that mensurate" is of course going to cause push back.
FLBear5630
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BaylorGuy314 said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Bestweekeverr said:

boognish_bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Jack Bauer said:

"Many students" would mean females. Why are they in boys bathrooms?




I for one have no problem with providing hygiene materials, compared to the alternative.


I honestly can't tell is you did not read what the controversy is about…or if you are trolling…

The issue is NOT that they are paying for tampons in the girls bathrooms

It's that they are making the boys bathrooms have them
What is their reasoning for doing that?
The bill does not mention boy's restrooms and does not make it mandatory for all boy's restroom's to carry tampons.

It requires that all menstruating students be given access to menstruating products and leaves it up to individual schools to stock their male restrooms with products if they do have FtM trans students.



Here is the text posted below...

Its pretty obvious the intent is to have ALL bathrooms at ALL schools stocked with tampons...regardless of if its the boys restroom

In fact there would be no controversy if the Liberals in Minnesota could have just been normal and said all women's restrooms at school should have these products.

But no...they of course had to play to radical LGBTQ and trans advocacy groups.


[21A.212 ACCESS TO MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS.

A school district or charter school must provide students with access to menstrual products at no charge. The products must be available to all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12 according to a plan developed by the school district. For purposes of this section, "menstrual products" means pads, tampons, or other similar products used in connection with the menstrual cycle.]

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/121A.212
Is this really that much of an issue to generate this much angst?

In theory, no.

We act like the issue is complicated, but it's not.

You (basically) have two sides. Side 1 is taking the emotional support angle and saying "You are what you feel like you are" in a supportive role. While Side 2 is saying, "You are what your chromosomes say you are- no matter what you look or feel like."

The issue would be dead except for Side 1 wants Side 2 to agree with them and make accommodations accordingly. That's where the rub occurs.


Seems to be the rub in general. It is not enough to pass policy or statute, but we have to make people agree. Just seems like a very minor thing. Hang the dispenser, in a year when they are all still there take it down...
FLBear5630
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Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Bestweekeverr said:

boognish_bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Jack Bauer said:

"Many students" would mean females. Why are they in boys bathrooms?




I for one have no problem with providing hygiene materials, compared to the alternative.


I honestly can't tell is you did not read what the controversy is about…or if you are trolling…

The issue is NOT that they are paying for tampons in the girls bathrooms

It's that they are making the boys bathrooms have them
What is their reasoning for doing that?
The bill does not mention boy's restrooms and does not make it mandatory for all boy's restroom's to carry tampons.

It requires that all menstruating students be given access to menstruating products and leaves it up to individual schools to stock their male restrooms with products if they do have FtM trans students.



Here is the text posted below...

Its pretty obvious the intent is to have ALL bathrooms at ALL schools stocked with tampons...regardless of if its the boys restroom

In fact there would be no controversy if the Liberals in Minnesota could have just been normal and said all women's restrooms at school should have these products.

But no...they of course had to play to radical LGBTQ and trans advocacy groups.


[21A.212 ACCESS TO MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS.

A school district or charter school must provide students with access to menstrual products at no charge. The products must be available to all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12 according to a plan developed by the school district. For purposes of this section, "menstrual products" means pads, tampons, or other similar products used in connection with the menstrual cycle.]

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/121A.212
Is this really that much of an issue to generate this much angst?

People resent social engineering and cultural reconstruction.

Providing free tampons at school does not create angst among anyone...trying to force the idea down peoples throats that there are "boys that mensurate" is of course going to cause push back.
Ok, I get it. But the law in MN accommodates this situation. If the law accommodates it, you hang the stupid machine.

When the law changes, take it down. You can't allow the situation and then not provide hygiene products. There is a reason I do not live in MN...
Redbrickbear
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FLBear5630 said:

BaylorGuy314 said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Bestweekeverr said:

boognish_bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Jack Bauer said:

"Many students" would mean females. Why are they in boys bathrooms?




I for one have no problem with providing hygiene materials, compared to the alternative.


I honestly can't tell is you did not read what the controversy is about…or if you are trolling…

The issue is NOT that they are paying for tampons in the girls bathrooms

It's that they are making the boys bathrooms have them
What is their reasoning for doing that?
The bill does not mention boy's restrooms and does not make it mandatory for all boy's restroom's to carry tampons.

It requires that all menstruating students be given access to menstruating products and leaves it up to individual schools to stock their male restrooms with products if they do have FtM trans students.



Here is the text posted below...

Its pretty obvious the intent is to have ALL bathrooms at ALL schools stocked with tampons...regardless of if its the boys restroom

In fact there would be no controversy if the Liberals in Minnesota could have just been normal and said all women's restrooms at school should have these products.

But no...they of course had to play to radical LGBTQ and trans advocacy groups.


[21A.212 ACCESS TO MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS.

A school district or charter school must provide students with access to menstrual products at no charge. The products must be available to all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12 according to a plan developed by the school district. For purposes of this section, "menstrual products" means pads, tampons, or other similar products used in connection with the menstrual cycle.]

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/121A.212
Is this really that much of an issue to generate this much angst?

In theory, no.

We act like the issue is complicated, but it's not.

You (basically) have two sides. Side 1 is taking the emotional support angle and saying "You are what you feel like you are" in a supportive role. While Side 2 is saying, "You are what your chromosomes say you are- no matter what you look or feel like."

The issue would be dead except for Side 1 wants Side 2 to agree with them and make accommodations accordingly. That's where the rub occurs.


Seems to be the rub in general. It is not enough to pass policy or statute, but we have to make people agree. Just seems like a very minor thing. Hang the dispenser, in a year when they are all still there take it down...
Besides the whole sch-itck of "how does this effect you personally" that has been playing out for the past 40 years as we have watched cultural liberalism bulldoze its way across American public life and institutions...

This stuff is State law....its tied to funding...and in a year they are not taking down the dispenser from the boys bathroom....you can not ignore State law.

And its part of a pattern by the Left in modern America to obliterate sex differences (well try at least...you can't actually obliterate biological reality...its a utopian fantasy)

But California forcing genderless bathrooms on people and Minnesota pretending males can mensurate is part of a very noticeable pattern.

https://casp-experts.com/casp-inspection-bulletins/all-gender-restrooms/#:~:text=California%20Requirements%20for%20All%2DGender,being%20identified%20as%20gender%2Dspecific.
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Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

BaylorGuy314 said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Bestweekeverr said:

boognish_bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Jack Bauer said:

"Many students" would mean females. Why are they in boys bathrooms?




I for one have no problem with providing hygiene materials, compared to the alternative.


I honestly can't tell is you did not read what the controversy is about…or if you are trolling…

The issue is NOT that they are paying for tampons in the girls bathrooms

It's that they are making the boys bathrooms have them
What is their reasoning for doing that?
The bill does not mention boy's restrooms and does not make it mandatory for all boy's restroom's to carry tampons.

It requires that all menstruating students be given access to menstruating products and leaves it up to individual schools to stock their male restrooms with products if they do have FtM trans students.



Here is the text posted below...

Its pretty obvious the intent is to have ALL bathrooms at ALL schools stocked with tampons...regardless of if its the boys restroom

In fact there would be no controversy if the Liberals in Minnesota could have just been normal and said all women's restrooms at school should have these products.

But no...they of course had to play to radical LGBTQ and trans advocacy groups.


[21A.212 ACCESS TO MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS.

A school district or charter school must provide students with access to menstrual products at no charge. The products must be available to all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12 according to a plan developed by the school district. For purposes of this section, "menstrual products" means pads, tampons, or other similar products used in connection with the menstrual cycle.]

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/121A.212
Is this really that much of an issue to generate this much angst?

In theory, no.

We act like the issue is complicated, but it's not.

You (basically) have two sides. Side 1 is taking the emotional support angle and saying "You are what you feel like you are" in a supportive role. While Side 2 is saying, "You are what your chromosomes say you are- no matter what you look or feel like."

The issue would be dead except for Side 1 wants Side 2 to agree with them and make accommodations accordingly. That's where the rub occurs.


Seems to be the rub in general. It is not enough to pass policy or statute, but we have to make people agree. Just seems like a very minor thing. Hang the dispenser, in a year when they are all still there take it down...
Besides the whole sch-itck of "how does this effect you personally" that has been playing out for the past 40 years as we have watched cultural liberalism bulldoze its way across American public life and institutions...

This stuff is State law....its tied to funding...and in a year they are not taking down the dispenser from the boys bathroom....you can not ignore State law.

And its part of a pattern by the Left in modern America to obliterate sex differences (well try at least...you can't actually obliterate biological reality...its a utopian fantasy)

But California forcing genderless bathrooms on people and Minnesota pretending males can mensurate is part of a very noticeable pattern.

https://casp-experts.com/casp-inspection-bulletins/all-gender-restrooms/#:~:text=California%20Requirements%20for%20All%2DGender,being%20identified%20as%20gender%2Dspecific.

Until you change the law, which you have to do through elections, the point is moot. Getting upset over something that is a by-product of a law is not getting anything done and no one is making MN conservative.
Redbrickbear
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FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

BaylorGuy314 said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Bestweekeverr said:

boognish_bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Jack Bauer said:

"Many students" would mean females. Why are they in boys bathrooms?




I for one have no problem with providing hygiene materials, compared to the alternative.


I honestly can't tell is you did not read what the controversy is about…or if you are trolling…

The issue is NOT that they are paying for tampons in the girls bathrooms

It's that they are making the boys bathrooms have them
What is their reasoning for doing that?
The bill does not mention boy's restrooms and does not make it mandatory for all boy's restroom's to carry tampons.

It requires that all menstruating students be given access to menstruating products and leaves it up to individual schools to stock their male restrooms with products if they do have FtM trans students.



Here is the text posted below...

Its pretty obvious the intent is to have ALL bathrooms at ALL schools stocked with tampons...regardless of if its the boys restroom

In fact there would be no controversy if the Liberals in Minnesota could have just been normal and said all women's restrooms at school should have these products.

But no...they of course had to play to radical LGBTQ and trans advocacy groups.


[21A.212 ACCESS TO MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS.

A school district or charter school must provide students with access to menstrual products at no charge. The products must be available to all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12 according to a plan developed by the school district. For purposes of this section, "menstrual products" means pads, tampons, or other similar products used in connection with the menstrual cycle.]

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/121A.212
Is this really that much of an issue to generate this much angst?

In theory, no.

We act like the issue is complicated, but it's not.

You (basically) have two sides. Side 1 is taking the emotional support angle and saying "You are what you feel like you are" in a supportive role. While Side 2 is saying, "You are what your chromosomes say you are- no matter what you look or feel like."

The issue would be dead except for Side 1 wants Side 2 to agree with them and make accommodations accordingly. That's where the rub occurs.


Seems to be the rub in general. It is not enough to pass policy or statute, but we have to make people agree. Just seems like a very minor thing. Hang the dispenser, in a year when they are all still there take it down...
Besides the whole sch-itck of "how does this effect you personally" that has been playing out for the past 40 years as we have watched cultural liberalism bulldoze its way across American public life and institutions...

This stuff is State law....its tied to funding...and in a year they are not taking down the dispenser from the boys bathroom....you can not ignore State law.

And its part of a pattern by the Left in modern America to obliterate sex differences (well try at least...you can't actually obliterate biological reality...its a utopian fantasy)

But California forcing genderless bathrooms on people and Minnesota pretending males can mensurate is part of a very noticeable pattern.

https://casp-experts.com/casp-inspection-bulletins/all-gender-restrooms/#:~:text=California%20Requirements%20for%20All%2DGender,being%20identified%20as%20gender%2Dspecific.

Until you change the law, which you have to do through elections, the point is moot. Getting upset over something that is a by-product of a law is not getting anything done and no one is making MN conservative.

No one is arguing that elections don't have consequences or that the way to change the law is to get another party elected.

This is about a presidential election...and people are going to point out the kind of laws the Democratic VP nominee signed while he was Governor of Minnesota...and the kind of political atmosphere he came from (hint a very very progressive one)

The idea that "boys mensurate" and need tampons in their bathrooms is shocking to most average Americans...in Minnesota though among uber- progressives its just normal.

Speaks volumes
That is why people are talking about it.

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KaiBear said:

Waco1947 said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

4th and Inches said:

Waco1947 said:

Oldbear83 said:

boognish_bear said:

Seems like we've been seeing more Vance than Trump lately for some reason.
Makes sense, actually.

1. Walz was the new shiny object for Democrats, but he was so poorly-vetted that next to him, Vance looks immensely capable and a much better choice; He's got the woman locked up. (sarcasm)

2. Walz knew he never served in combat, yet he played the 'combat veteran' card thinking he could attack Vance that way ... and hoo boy did Vance destroy Walz's cred in quick fashion Walz never said he was a combat veteran. This is straight up a lie.

3. Vance also got a two-for-one shot in on Harris, by walking over to her plane and speaking to the press, all the while reminding them how Harris dodged answering questions I saw his interview on the tarmac. He simply said lies and went unchallenged by the press.

4. Trump's recent stupids fade from the chatter while Vance reminds voters he earned his way up and actually served in combat as a Marine This fact is right.




we don't live in the same reality You are exactly right. Trump demands you believe the election was stolen and J6 was not an insurrection. Every damn republican has bowed to that nonsense. Once you buy a olie of that magnitude you have left the real world.

I have posted negative things about Trump within the past week. Read more. Post less.

You are a die hard NPC who votes for whoever has a D at the end of their name and all is well when they are in charge (quack quack)
What about his "stolen election lie"? quack, quack
Right now I am a yellow dog democrat


' Overly medicated yellow dog Democrat '.

Someone needs to talk to your night nurse.
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Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

BaylorGuy314 said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

Bestweekeverr said:

boognish_bear said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Jack Bauer said:

"Many students" would mean females. Why are they in boys bathrooms?




I for one have no problem with providing hygiene materials, compared to the alternative.


I honestly can't tell is you did not read what the controversy is about…or if you are trolling…

The issue is NOT that they are paying for tampons in the girls bathrooms

It's that they are making the boys bathrooms have them
What is their reasoning for doing that?
The bill does not mention boy's restrooms and does not make it mandatory for all boy's restroom's to carry tampons.

It requires that all menstruating students be given access to menstruating products and leaves it up to individual schools to stock their male restrooms with products if they do have FtM trans students.



Here is the text posted below...

Its pretty obvious the intent is to have ALL bathrooms at ALL schools stocked with tampons...regardless of if its the boys restroom

In fact there would be no controversy if the Liberals in Minnesota could have just been normal and said all women's restrooms at school should have these products.

But no...they of course had to play to radical LGBTQ and trans advocacy groups.


[21A.212 ACCESS TO MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS.

A school district or charter school must provide students with access to menstrual products at no charge. The products must be available to all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12 according to a plan developed by the school district. For purposes of this section, "menstrual products" means pads, tampons, or other similar products used in connection with the menstrual cycle.]

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/121A.212
Is this really that much of an issue to generate this much angst?

In theory, no.

We act like the issue is complicated, but it's not.

You (basically) have two sides. Side 1 is taking the emotional support angle and saying "You are what you feel like you are" in a supportive role. While Side 2 is saying, "You are what your chromosomes say you are- no matter what you look or feel like."

The issue would be dead except for Side 1 wants Side 2 to agree with them and make accommodations accordingly. That's where the rub occurs.


Seems to be the rub in general. It is not enough to pass policy or statute, but we have to make people agree. Just seems like a very minor thing. Hang the dispenser, in a year when they are all still there take it down...
Besides the whole sch-itck of "how does this effect you personally" that has been playing out for the past 40 years as we have watched cultural liberalism bulldoze its way across American public life and institutions...

This stuff is State law....its tied to funding...and in a year they are not taking down the dispenser from the boys bathroom....you can not ignore State law.

And its part of a pattern by the Left in modern America to obliterate sex differences (well try at least...you can't actually obliterate biological reality...its a utopian fantasy)

But California forcing genderless bathrooms on people and Minnesota pretending males can mensurate is part of a very noticeable pattern.

https://casp-experts.com/casp-inspection-bulletins/all-gender-restrooms/#:~:text=California%20Requirements%20for%20All%2DGender,being%20identified%20as%20gender%2Dspecific.

Until you change the law, which you have to do through elections, the point is moot. Getting upset over something that is a by-product of a law is not getting anything done and no one is making MN conservative.

No one is arguing that elections don't have consequences or that the way to change the law is to get another party elected.

This is about a presidential election...and people are going to point out the kind of laws the Democratic VP nominee signed while he was Governor of Minnesota...and the kind of political atmosphere he came from (hint a very very progressive one)

The idea that "boys mensurate" and need tampons in their bathrooms is shocking to most average Americans...in Minnesota though among uber- progressives its just normal.

Speaks volumes
That is why people are talking about it.


I don't disagree. It is insane. Same thing on abortion, so I don't live there.
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Jack Bauer said:

"Many students" would mean females. Why are they in boys bathrooms?




I for one have no problem with providing hygiene materials, compared to the alternative.


I honestly can't tell is you did not read what the controversy is about…or if you are trolling…

The issue is NOT that they are paying for tampons in the girls bathrooms

It's that they are making the boys bathrooms have them
What is their reasoning for doing that?
The bill does not mention boy's restrooms and does not make it mandatory for all boy's restroom's to carry tampons.

It requires that all menstruating students be given access to menstruating products and leaves it up to individual schools to stock their male restrooms with products if they do have FtM trans students.



Here is the text posted below...

Its pretty obvious the intent is to have ALL bathrooms at ALL schools stocked with tampons...regardless of if its the boys restroom

In fact there would be no controversy if the Liberals in Minnesota could have just been normal and said all women's restrooms at school should have these products.

But no...they of course had to play to radical LGBTQ and trans advocacy groups.


[21A.212 ACCESS TO MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS.

A school district or charter school must provide students with access to menstrual products at no charge. The products must be available to all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12 according to a plan developed by the school district. For purposes of this section, "menstrual products" means pads, tampons, or other similar products used in connection with the menstrual cycle.]

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/121A.212
Is this really that much of an issue to generate this much angst?

In theory, no.

We act like the issue is complicated, but it's not.

You (basically) have two sides. Side 1 is taking the emotional support angle and saying "You are what you feel like you are" in a supportive role. While Side 2 is saying, "You are what your chromosomes say you are- no matter what you look or feel like."

The issue would be dead except for Side 1 wants Side 2 to agree with them and make accommodations accordingly. That's where the rub occurs.


Seems to be the rub in general. It is not enough to pass policy or statute, but we have to make people agree. Just seems like a very minor thing. Hang the dispenser, in a year when they are all still there take it down...
Besides the whole sch-itck of "how does this effect you personally" that has been playing out for the past 40 years as we have watched cultural liberalism bulldoze its way across American public life and institutions...

This stuff is State law....its tied to funding...and in a year they are not taking down the dispenser from the boys bathroom....you can not ignore State law.

And its part of a pattern by the Left in modern America to obliterate sex differences (well try at least...you can't actually obliterate biological reality...its a utopian fantasy)

But California forcing genderless bathrooms on people and Minnesota pretending males can mensurate is part of a very noticeable pattern.

https://casp-experts.com/casp-inspection-bulletins/all-gender-restrooms/#:~:text=California%20Requirements%20for%20All%2DGender,being%20identified%20as%20gender%2Dspecific.

Until you change the law, which you have to do through elections, the point is moot. Getting upset over something that is a by-product of a law is not getting anything done and no one is making MN conservative.

No one is arguing that elections don't have consequences or that the way to change the law is to get another party elected.

This is about a presidential election...and people are going to point out the kind of laws the Democratic VP nominee signed while he was Governor of Minnesota...and the kind of political atmosphere he came from (hint a very very progressive one)

The idea that "boys mensurate" and need tampons in their bathrooms is shocking to most average Americans...in Minnesota though among uber- progressives its just normal.

Speaks volumes
That is why people are talking about it.


I don't disagree. It is insane. Same thing on abortion, so I don't live there.
And when someone who promotes that insanity is elected or appointed to a federal office with sway over that issue, guess what? Now you live there.
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wonder who bought them..

They have been paying influencers and used AI for crowd size videos
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FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Jack Bauer said:

"Many students" would mean females. Why are they in boys bathrooms?




I for one have no problem with providing hygiene materials, compared to the alternative.


I honestly can't tell is you did not read what the controversy is about…or if you are trolling…

The issue is NOT that they are paying for tampons in the girls bathrooms

It's that they are making the boys bathrooms have them
What is their reasoning for doing that?
The bill does not mention boy's restrooms and does not make it mandatory for all boy's restroom's to carry tampons.

It requires that all menstruating students be given access to menstruating products and leaves it up to individual schools to stock their male restrooms with products if they do have FtM trans students.



Here is the text posted below...

Its pretty obvious the intent is to have ALL bathrooms at ALL schools stocked with tampons...regardless of if its the boys restroom

In fact there would be no controversy if the Liberals in Minnesota could have just been normal and said all women's restrooms at school should have these products.

But no...they of course had to play to radical LGBTQ and trans advocacy groups.


[21A.212 ACCESS TO MENSTRUAL PRODUCTS.

A school district or charter school must provide students with access to menstrual products at no charge. The products must be available to all menstruating students in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 to 12 according to a plan developed by the school district. For purposes of this section, "menstrual products" means pads, tampons, or other similar products used in connection with the menstrual cycle.]

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/121A.212
Is this really that much of an issue to generate this much angst?

People resent social engineering and cultural reconstruction.

Providing free tampons at school does not create angst among anyone...trying to force the idea down peoples throats that there are "boys that mensurate" is of course going to cause push back.
Ok, I get it. But the law in MN accommodates this situation. If the law accommodates it, you hang the stupid machine.

When the law changes, take it down. You can't allow the situation and then not provide hygiene products. There is a reason I do not live in MN...
At the same time you don't want the entire US to look like MN.

We're not in a position to vote for what we want. We are voting to stop a tsunami of dumb and evil nonsense.
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What happened?
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https://www.chron.com/culture/religion/article/texas-sbc-pastor-harris-walz-19629226.php

Jack Graham going off on Harris
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https://www.chron.com/culture/religion/article/texas-sbc-pastor-harris-walz-19629226.php

Jack Graham going off on Harris
That was typical weasel crap one would usually find on Huffpost or Slate.
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whitetrash said:

Osodecentx said:

https://www.chron.com/culture/religion/article/texas-sbc-pastor-harris-walz-19629226.php

Jack Graham going off on Harris
That was typical weasel crap one would usually find on Huffpost or Slate.


Huff & Slate oppose Harris?
Graham went hard against Dems
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Osodecentx said:

whitetrash said:

Osodecentx said:

https://www.chron.com/culture/religion/article/texas-sbc-pastor-harris-walz-19629226.php

Jack Graham going off on Harris
That was typical weasel crap one would usually find on Huffpost or Slate.


Huff & Slate oppose Harris?
Graham went hard against Dems
The Chron article, not Graham.
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whitetrash said:

Osodecentx said:

whitetrash said:

Osodecentx said:

https://www.chron.com/culture/religion/article/texas-sbc-pastor-harris-walz-19629226.php

Jack Graham going off on Harris
That was typical weasel crap one would usually find on Huffpost or Slate.


Huff & Slate oppose Harris?
Graham went hard against Dems
The Chron article, not Graham.


Oh
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Marquette is by far the worst polling unit of them all. At one point in 2020 had Biden up by 17th in WI. Final: Biden by 0.63% in a race marred by fraud.
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What happened?
Trump was counting on Rogan's endorsement....but he gave it to RFK instead....

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Rogan is now pointing out that he did not actually endorse anyone.
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Rogan is now pointing out that he did not actually endorse anyone.
Guess the people that got to Rittenhouse have gotten to Rogan
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Ok...here we go...

https://isp.netscape.com/
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Robert runs a fair polling system.

State polls are key to watch
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The Democratic Party patchwork of the miserables continues to come unraveled.

As forecast the Palestine/Hamas crowd are emboldened by their ability to stop the Shapiro for VP camp and now are now threatening to sink the Harris campaign [she has no hope without them in any of Pennsylvania, Michigan (especially), or Wisconsin] if she doesn't give them a Cease Fire and Stop Arming Israel pledge. If she makes that pledge, her funding and Hollywood support grind to a halt.

It was inevitable that the left would turn on one another with a vengeance because destruction is the only play in their playbook.
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