Have there ever been any credible charges of treason committed by Trump, Pence, either Bush or their VPs? No.

Biden has been taking bribes from China, Russia, Ukraine, and maybe others for many years. He was engaged in influence peddling and maybe extortion. Hunter's laptop was real despite all the "experts" who lied about it. Hillary played fast and loose with top secret data. She had her own private server sitting government secrets! Both the Clinton's & the Biden's are crime families. Unfortunately, that's not an exaggeration. There is abundant evidence and we all would likely be shocked if there were a real investigation and the full extent of their corruption were known.

Obama had the "cleanest administration ever" except they had more scandals than any other except maybe Clinton. Benghazi was a fiasco that cost the lives of Americans. The IRS abused its power to target Americans for their political views. Fast and Furious had the US government running guns to the drug cartels, ending with Americans dead. These are serious crimes and only a partial list. As bad as all this was, no one was ever punished. Is this the US or Nazi Germany? The Soviet Union?

I know the republicans are not all saints. They are politicians like all the rest and some are dirty too. But no one can seriously compare their faults to the above partial list.

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Have there ever been any credible charges of treason committed by Trump, Pence, either Bush or their VPs? No.

Biden has been taking bribes from China, Russia, Ukraine, and maybe others for many years. He was engaged in influence peddling and maybe extortion. Hunter's laptop was real despite all the "experts" who lied about it. Hillary played fast and loose with top secret data. She had her own private server sitting government secrets! Both the Clinton's & the Biden's are crime families. Unfortunately, that's not an exaggeration. There is abundant evidence and we all would likely be shocked if there were a real investigation and the full extent of their corruption were known.

Obama had the "cleanest administration ever" except they had more scandals than any other except maybe Clinton. Benghazi was a fiasco that cost the lives of Americans. The IRS abused its power to target Americans for their political views. Fast and Furious had the US government running guns to the drug cartels, ending with Americans dead. These are serious crimes and only a partial list. As bad as all this was, no one was ever punished. Is this the US or Nazi Germany? The Soviet Union?

I know the republicans are not all saints. They are politicians like all the rest and some are dirty too. But no one can seriously compare their faults to the above partial list.

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Is your first sentence some sort of joke?

What's your thoughts to Harris and Walz holding rallies in MN, NH, and VA? Aren't these supposed to be solid blue and does it look like they are on defense?

Walz is hurting them in Minnesota:

https://notthebee.com/article/tim-walz-is-hurting-kamalas-chances-at-winning-his-home-state-of-minnesota

Kamalisms:

More Kamalaisms:

I want to thank beautiful Brittany Mahomes for so strongly defending me, and the fact that MAGA is the greatest and most powerful Political Movement in the History of our now Failing Country. With Crime and Illegal Immigration totally out of control, INFLATION Ravaging all…

— Donald J. Trump Posts From His Truth Social (@TrumpDailyPosts) September 4, 2024

Republicans took back a narrow lead on enthusiasm

🔴 Republicans 60%
🔵 Democrats 59%

YouGov pic.twitter.com/aSpPV5Qmpz

— Political Polls (@PpollingNumbers) September 4, 2024

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More Americans are having to choose between food and energy bills. https://t.co/NWa1Dpykxu

— CBS News (@CBSNews) September 4, 2024

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fake news, Bidens economy is good and Harris is gonna fix it!!

KaiBear said:

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Jacques Strap said:

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More Americans are having to choose between food and energy bills. https://t.co/NWa1Dpykxu

— CBS News (@CBSNews) September 4, 2024

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fake news, Bidens economy is good and Harris is gonna fix it!!

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Amazing how many Dem partisans don't even realize how Harris was a major player in the administration that gave the country such high inflation.

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To those who’ve asked “What has Vice President Harris done?”

Here's your answer. pic.twitter.com/p5GsYqqQlT

— The Democrats (@TheDemocrats) September 4, 2024

Watch this whole thing. The numbers are broken down by swing state. Once you do, you'll understand why Kamala Harris will be elected in November, just as Joe Biden was in 2020.

I take it you're not voting then? I mean, no reason, since it's already a foregone conclusion in your mind. Right?

Just think about how the dynamics and trends of this election have changed from June to July to August to now.

Obviously no one knows what stories or events lie ahead for either candidate in the 60 days ahead. All that to say....no one today can really accurately today say what will happen on Nov 6.

I don't know that this really means anything. Could just be a routine reminder to internal staff to stay tight lipped.

NEW leak: Trump's co-campaign managers Chris LaCivita and Susie Wiles warn staff in internal email to stop talking to the press less than an hour ago, with the threat of termination. There must be a hot story in the works... pic.twitter.com/Buob6psJ5z

— Tara Palmeri (@tarapalmeri) September 4, 2024

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I take it you're not voting then? I mean, no reason, since it's already a foregone conclusion in your mind. Right?

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I'm voting straight ticket Republican (and I encourage everyone to do the same this year, even if you've never voted, even if you have misgivings about Trump. This is your last chance to prevent the country from plunging into a darkness from which it will take generations to recover, if it ever does.).

Baylor is playing at Utah on Saturday.

Neither fact has anything to do with my expectations of the outcome.

boognish_bear said:

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Just think about how the dynamics and trends of this election have changed from June to July to August to now.

Obviously no one knows what stories or events lie ahead for either candidate in the 60 days ahead. All that to say....no one today can really accurately today say what will happen on Nov 6.

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All true

Though if the Republicans found the guts to do to Donald Trump what the Dems did to Joe Biden ……

your comments might no longer be true.

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boognish_bear said:

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Just think about how the dynamics and trends of this election have changed from June to July to August to now.

Obviously no one knows what stories or events lie ahead for either candidate in the 60 days ahead. All that to say....no one today can really accurately today say what will happen on Nov 6.

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All true

Though if the Republicans found the guts to do to Donald Trump what the Dems did to Joe Biden ……

your comments might no longer be true.

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I cannot picture Trump ever agreeing to step aside.

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I take it you're not voting then? I mean, no reason, since it's already a foregone conclusion in your mind. Right?

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I'm voting straight ticket Republican (and I encourage everyone to do the same this year, even if you've never voted, even if you have misgivings about Trump. This is your last chance to prevent the country from plunging into a darkness from which it will take generations to recover, if it ever does.).

Baylor is playing at Utah on Saturday.

Neither fact has anything to do with my expectations of the outcome.

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Yes, but you're not traveling to Utah to watch us get our butts kicked, I take it. Why waste time voting if you believe it's already completely rigged and a foregone conclusion?

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Yes, but you're not traveling to Utah to watch us get our butts kicked, I take it. Why waste time voting if you believe it's already completely rigged and a foregone conclusion?

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Because the numbers on the scoreboard on Saturday have no bearing on my life on Sunday.

The numbers on the scoreboard on November 5th (or 6th, or 7th, or whenever Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania finish counting the junk mail ballots necessary to install Harris/Walz) will profoundly affect my life and the lives of everyone who lives in this country.

If you didn't vote straight ticket GOP, you become partially responsible for what follows.

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Yes, but you're not traveling to Utah to watch us get our butts kicked, I take it. Why waste time voting if you believe it's already completely rigged and a foregone conclusion?

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Because the numbers on the scoreboard on Saturday have no bearing on my life on Sunday.

The numbers on the scoreboard on November 5th (or 6th, or 7th, or whenever Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania finish counting the junk mail ballots necessary to install Harris/Walz) will profoundly affect my life and the lives of everyone who lives in this country.

If you didn't vote straight ticket GOP, you become partially responsible for what follows.

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I don't disagree. I simply remain curious why you are going to waste your time if you believe the result is already a foregone conclusion.

Sounds like you don't really believe it is.

omg - Russia interference!!!!!!!

NEW — Putin Says Russia Supports Kamala Harris For President

“If we can name a favorite candidate, it used to be Joe Biden but now he's not participating in the election campaign. And he recommended to all his allies to support Ms. Harris, so that is what we are going to do.” pic.twitter.com/Qf5dNI8xPz

— Chief Nerd (@TheChiefNerd) September 5, 2024

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Yes, but you're not traveling to Utah to watch us get our butts kicked, I take it. Why waste time voting if you believe it's already completely rigged and a foregone conclusion?

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Because the numbers on the scoreboard on Saturday have no bearing on my life on Sunday.

The numbers on the scoreboard on November 5th (or 6th, or 7th, or whenever Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania finish counting the junk mail ballots necessary to install Harris/Walz) will profoundly affect my life and the lives of everyone who lives in this country.

If you didn't vote straight ticket GOP, you become partially responsible for what follows.

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I don't disagree. I simply remain curious why you are going to waste your time if you believe the result is already a foregone conclusion.

Sounds like you don't really believe it is.

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The wife and I no longer believe in the integrity of our voting system. Hundreds of thousands of ballots in luggage will be wheeled through back doors in swing states in the wee hours of 11/6 and nobody will question them. We will go through the motion and cast our votes, even though they no longer really count. After what happened in 2020, the Republican Party may never again win a Presidential election. The Dems know exactly what to do.

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Mothra said:

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Mothra said:

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Yes, but you're not traveling to Utah to watch us get our butts kicked, I take it. Why waste time voting if you believe it's already completely rigged and a foregone conclusion?

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Because the numbers on the scoreboard on Saturday have no bearing on my life on Sunday.

The numbers on the scoreboard on November 5th (or 6th, or 7th, or whenever Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania finish counting the junk mail ballots necessary to install Harris/Walz) will profoundly affect my life and the lives of everyone who lives in this country.

If you didn't vote straight ticket GOP, you become partially responsible for what follows.

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I don't disagree. I simply remain curious why you are going to waste your time if you believe the result is already a foregone conclusion.

Sounds like you don't really believe it is.

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The wife and I no longer believe in the integrity of our voting system. Hundreds of thousands of ballots in luggage will be wheeled through back doors in swing states in the wee hours of 11/6 and nobody will question them. We will go through the motion and cast our votes, even though they no longer really count. After what happened in 2020, the Republican Party may never again win a Presidential election. The Dems know exactly what to do.

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I agree changing the rules on the eve of the election was bullsh. But again, it's worth a reminder that there has been no evidence uncovered of massive voter fraud to date, despite ample opportunity in the 3.5 years since the election. Biden was leading in every poll prior to the election, and guess what? It turned out exactly the way most of the polls predicted.

I am not so naive to believe that voter fraud doesn't happen, but a massive conspiracy that changed the result of the election? There simply is no good evidence of it. Trump was an extremely unpopular and flawed candidate in 2020. He still is, it's just that the other side has proven worse, which is why he has a fighting chance this time around.

The mindset that it's all some massive conspiracy plays right into the Dems hands. They want you to feel that way, and not go out and vote.

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What's your thoughts to Harris and Walz holding rallies in MN, NH, and VA? Aren't these supposed to be solid blue and does it look like they are on defense?

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Exactly.

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More Americans are having to choose between food and energy bills. https://t.co/NWa1Dpykxu

— CBS News (@CBSNews) September 4, 2024

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fake news, Bidens economy is good and Harris is gonna fix it!!

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Amazing how many Dem partisans don't even realize how Harris was a major player in the administration that gave the country such high inflation.

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Either they know and don't care (& thus probably evil) or they are ignorant fools. Lenin's phrase was "useful idiots".

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Jacques Strap said:

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More Americans are having to choose between food and energy bills. https://t.co/NWa1Dpykxu

— CBS News (@CBSNews) September 4, 2024

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fake news, Bidens economy is good and Harris is gonna fix it!!

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Amazing how many Dem partisans don't even realize how Harris was a major player in the administration that gave the country such high inflation.

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To those who’ve asked “What has Vice President Harris done?”

Here's your answer. pic.twitter.com/p5GsYqqQlT

— The Democrats (@TheDemocrats) September 4, 2024

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Kamala the Kommie's accomplishments look like a bunch of idiotic socialist ideas that never work, contributing significantly to the insane national debt with a bunch of stupid programs that won't work, obsessing more about killing innocent babies, and the usual Leftist claptrap.

I wonder if anything on this list is genuine or is it all made up? Well, we know she is very proud of all her efforts to make sure more babies are killed. That's been well documented, including the tyrannical extremes. As if mass murder, America's Holocaust, were not enough tyranny.

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Mothra said:

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Mothra said:

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Yes, but you're not traveling to Utah to watch us get our butts kicked, I take it. Why waste time voting if you believe it's already completely rigged and a foregone conclusion?

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Because the numbers on the scoreboard on Saturday have no bearing on my life on Sunday.

The numbers on the scoreboard on November 5th (or 6th, or 7th, or whenever Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania finish counting the junk mail ballots necessary to install Harris/Walz) will profoundly affect my life and the lives of everyone who lives in this country.

If you didn't vote straight ticket GOP, you become partially responsible for what follows.

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I don't disagree. I simply remain curious why you are going to waste your time if you believe the result is already a foregone conclusion.

Sounds like you don't really believe it is.

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The wife and I no longer believe in the integrity of our voting system. Hundreds of thousands of ballots in luggage will be wheeled through back doors in swing states in the wee hours of 11/6 and nobody will question them. We will go through the motion and cast our votes, even though they no longer really count. After what happened in 2020, the Republican Party may never again win a Presidential election. The Dems know exactly what to do.

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This is why Donald Trump has been so damaging to America. He has you convinced to the point that you no longer trust our elections based on absolute lies. Don't believe me? Giuliani has admitted to lying about it.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-trump-indictment-fulton-suitcases-pipe-654281257169

https://apnews.com/article/giuliani-georgia-election-workers-lawsuit-false-statements-afc64a565ee778c6914a1a69dc756064

Vote for who you want, but don't let a liar convince you our elections aren't safe with zero credible evidence. You are better than that, man.

Since the election is on November 5 and the fascists are determined to steal another one, we can be confident that they will still be counting ballots well into the next day and as long as it takes to steal enough swing states to repeat the 2020 fraud.

boognish_bear said:

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Just think about how the dynamics and trends of this election have changed from June to July to August to now.

Obviously no one knows what stories or events lie ahead for either candidate in the 60 days ahead. All that to say....no one today can really accurately today say what will happen on Nov 6.

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All true

Though if the Republicans found the guts to do to Donald Trump what the Dems did to Joe Biden ……

your comments might no longer be true.

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I cannot picture Trump ever agreeing to step aside.

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The Dems tried to force Trump to step aside in very dramatic fashion on July 13. He turned his head at the last second and their stooge failed.

KaiBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Just think about how the dynamics and trends of this election have changed from June to July to August to now.

Obviously no one knows what stories or events lie ahead for either candidate in the 60 days ahead. All that to say....no one today can really accurately today say what will happen on Nov 6.

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All true

Though if the Republicans found the guts to do to Donald Trump what the Dems did to Joe Biden ……
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Average flyover conservative voters don't trust the party elite not to try and force a Jeb Bush down their throats.

Never forget that rank and file Republicans embracing Trump was in large part a reaction to the failures of GOP leadership and a rejection of their neo-con/pro-war foreign policy, squishy cultural fight against social Liberalism, and economic policy of exporting jobs overseas while helping out big business.

Republicans voters hate the GOP elite and no longer support trust them.