Why does anyone care about the Cheney's opinion? Didn't Lyn Cheney lose her primary by 40%?

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Exactly

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Election in 60 days , yall argue about 2020 election, & crowd sizes

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Giggles is busing her crowds in for her rallies.

Better?

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There ya go!!! Independents really care about that

Why not attack Gov Hailey supporters & the Georgia governor? Unity!!!

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He isn't doing that at all.

The neverTrumpers are the bigger obstacle to unity.

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He did all that & called POWs losers & Medal of Honor winners (well, you know)
& NTs are the problem?

Trump is never responsible

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[Former President Trump again denied referring to dead U.S. soldiers as "suckers" and "losers" ...

"Obviously, I never said that dead Soldiers are 'losers and suckers.' Who would say such a thing?" Trump posted on Truth Social, calling the accusation "made up disinformation" coming from his opponents.

However, there appeared to be no evidence of an audio or video recording of the remarks in question, nor was there any documentation, such as transcripts or presidential notes, to independently confirm the alleged quotes' authenticity.]


PS

That whole story was cooked up by Jeffery Goldberg at the Atlantic.

And old Jeff seems like a wonderful and totally not partisan guy...

[Goldberg is Jewish and was born in Brooklyn, New York, the son of Ellen and Daniel Goldberg. Goldberg has described his parents as "very left-wing." His grandfather was from Leova, Moldova. He grew up in suburban Malverne on Long Island, a predominately Catholic neighborhood which he once described as "a wasteland of Irish pogromists". Retroactively, when describing his first trip to Israel as a teen, Goldberg recalled the sense of empowerment he felt Israel embodied...]

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Confirmed by Trump staffers

In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers." In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as "suckers" for getting killed.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-says-presidential-medal-of-freedom-is-better-than-the-medal-of-honor-217303621972

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Which Trump staffers confirmed the story from personal knowledge?

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Chief of staff Kelly

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There doesn't seem to be any proof that Kelly had firsthand knowledge.

"In other words, Kelly, who was with Trump in Paris, confirmed that Trump did call American troops "losers" and "suckers," though it was unclear whether he witnessed the comments firsthand or heard about them from someone else, or from news reports."

https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/10/04/donald-trump-call-troops-suckers-losers/

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Former Republican Vice President Dick Cheney will vote for Kamala Harris, his daughter former U.S. Rep. Liz Cheney said at The Texas Tribune Festival. Liz Cheney also endorsed Democrat Colin Allred in his race to beat Republican U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz.https://t.co/PfhSTUYEW3

— Texas Tribune (@TexasTribune) September 6, 2024

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the cycle is complete.. GOP got a Kennedy and Dems got Cheney. War hawk until the end, right Dick?

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Osodecentx said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Osodecentx said:

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historian said:

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Exactly

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Election in 60 days , yall argue about 2020 election, & crowd sizes

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Giggles is busing her crowds in for her rallies.

Better?

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There ya go!!! Independents really care about that

Why not attack Gov Hailey supporters & the Georgia governor? Unity!!!

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He isn't doing that at all.

The neverTrumpers are the bigger obstacle to unity.

---

He did all that & called POWs losers & Medal of Honor winners (well, you know)
& NTs are the problem?

Trump is never responsible

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[Former President Trump again denied referring to dead U.S. soldiers as "suckers" and "losers" ...

"Obviously, I never said that dead Soldiers are 'losers and suckers.' Who would say such a thing?" Trump posted on Truth Social, calling the accusation "made up disinformation" coming from his opponents.

However, there appeared to be no evidence of an audio or video recording of the remarks in question, nor was there any documentation, such as transcripts or presidential notes, to independently confirm the alleged quotes' authenticity.]


PS

That whole story was cooked up by Jeffery Goldberg at the Atlantic.

And old Jeff seems like a wonderful and totally not partisan guy...

[Goldberg is Jewish and was born in Brooklyn, New York, the son of Ellen and Daniel Goldberg. Goldberg has described his parents as "very left-wing." His grandfather was from Leova, Moldova. He grew up in suburban Malverne on Long Island, a predominately Catholic neighborhood which he once described as "a wasteland of Irish pogromists". Retroactively, when describing his first trip to Israel as a teen, Goldberg recalled the sense of empowerment he felt Israel embodied...]

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Confirmed by Trump staffers

In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers." In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as "suckers" for getting killed.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-says-presidential-medal-of-freedom-is-better-than-the-medal-of-honor-217303621972

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Never happened.

Totally made up quote that you have fallen for hook line and sinker.

19 Staffers denied Trump ever said it.

Jeffrey "raised by far leftist parents who hates his Irish catholic neighbors" Goldberg over at the Atlantic never provided any evidence he said it.

I mean step back for a second and think about the mindless propaganda you are feeding other people.

This does not sound like something Trump (or anyone other than a radical Marxist professor) would say

[Staffers from the National Security Council and the Secret Service told Trump that rainy weather made helicopter travel to the cemetery risky, but they could drive there. Trump responded by saying he didn't want to visit the cemetery because it was "filled with losers," ]

I mean it almost hilariously bad propaganda....its not even sort of believable

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It was his chief of staff who actually heard him say that. I'm quoting a named source while you rely on anonymous sources 19 staffers) Who has fallen hook line and sinker. It supports Goldberg's story.
Interesting that the religion of the author seems important to you

Former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly is blasting his onetime boss over disparaging remarks he says the then-president repeatedly made about service members and veterans and for what he called Trump's untruthfulness about his positions on various groups as well as on abortion.
In a statement to CNN published Monday, Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

"A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all 'suckers' because 'there is nothing in it for them,'" Kelly said of Trump. "A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because 'it doesn't look good for me.' A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family for all Gold Star families on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America's defense are 'losers' and wouldn't visit their graves in France."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/john-kelly-confirms-trump-privately-disparaged-us-service-members-vete-rcna118543

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1 confirm vs 19 nos

and his own aide said no it didnt happen..

"I'm on team joy now, asshole!" pic.twitter.com/hg0FSWDXaf

— G (@stevensongs) September 7, 2024

Trump just needs to control the crazy and take a few knees until Nov 6

And here's my longer story on the state of the race.

The Electoral College / popular vote gap has gotten quite bad for Harris. Now a 20% chance she wins the popular vote but loses the EC.https://t.co/mHgElUsmaZ

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) September 6, 2024

U.S. House
2022 Wyo. District 1 GOP Primary
Updated Aug 18, 2022, 6:45 PM
AP estimates
99.0% of votes counted
Harriet Hageman wins. AP race call at 9:21 p.m. on Aug. 16, 2022.

Harriet Hageman
R
113,025 votes
66.3%
Liz Cheney (i)
R
49,316 votes
28.9%
Anthony Bouchard
R
4,505 votes
2.6%
Denton Knapp
R
2,258 votes
1.3%
Robyn Belinskey
R
1,305 votes
0.8%

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Osodecentx said:

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Exactly

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Election in 60 days , yall argue about 2020 election, & crowd sizes

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Giggles is busing her crowds in for her rallies.

Better?

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There ya go!!! Independents really care about that

Why not attack Gov Hailey supporters & the Georgia governor? Unity!!!

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He isn't doing that at all.

The neverTrumpers are the bigger obstacle to unity.

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He did all that & called POWs losers & Medal of Honor winners (well, you know)
& NTs are the problem?

Trump is never responsible

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[Former President Trump again denied referring to dead U.S. soldiers as "suckers" and "losers" ...

"Obviously, I never said that dead Soldiers are 'losers and suckers.' Who would say such a thing?" Trump posted on Truth Social, calling the accusation "made up disinformation" coming from his opponents.

However, there appeared to be no evidence of an audio or video recording of the remarks in question, nor was there any documentation, such as transcripts or presidential notes, to independently confirm the alleged quotes' authenticity.]


PS

That whole story was cooked up by Jeffery Goldberg at the Atlantic.

And old Jeff seems like a wonderful and totally not partisan guy...

[Goldberg is Jewish and was born in Brooklyn, New York, the son of Ellen and Daniel Goldberg. Goldberg has described his parents as "very left-wing." His grandfather was from Leova, Moldova. He grew up in suburban Malverne on Long Island, a predominately Catholic neighborhood which he once described as "a wasteland of Irish pogromists". Retroactively, when describing his first trip to Israel as a teen, Goldberg recalled the sense of empowerment he felt Israel embodied...]

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Confirmed by Trump staffers

In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers." In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as "suckers" for getting killed.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-says-presidential-medal-of-freedom-is-better-than-the-medal-of-honor-217303621972

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Which Trump staffers confirmed the story from personal knowledge?

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Chief of staff Kelly

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Well, there is an unbiased source...

Trump and Kelly hate each other. Kelly said he said it, 39 others said he didn't. But, I can see how you can base your opinion on that.

Trump has no awe of Generals. He doesn't bend the knee and doesn't put them in high regard. Generals are not used to that, nor are they trained to expect it or tolerate it. I agree with Trump on the General thing, every one I met is a total self-absorbed *******, actually more Academy grads fit that mold.

So, I go with the other Trumpers on this. It is not something I can see anyone saying in mixed company, even Trump and even if he believed it.

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Dan Crenshaw, asked at Tribfest about Cheneys backing Harris, says it's "very personal" for politicians like Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger given how much Trump has personally attacked them. "They're putting those feelings above, I think, basic conservative policy."

— Patrick Svitek (@PatrickSvitek) September 6, 2024

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And for Cheney, Trump repeatedly attacked her dads war mongering.

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Exactly

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Election in 60 days , yall argue about 2020 election, & crowd sizes

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Giggles is busing her crowds in for her rallies.

Better?

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There ya go!!! Independents really care about that

Why not attack Gov Hailey supporters & the Georgia governor? Unity!!!

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He isn't doing that at all.

The neverTrumpers are the bigger obstacle to unity.

---

He did all that & called POWs losers & Medal of Honor winners (well, you know)
& NTs are the problem?

Trump is never responsible

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[Former President Trump again denied referring to dead U.S. soldiers as "suckers" and "losers" ...

"Obviously, I never said that dead Soldiers are 'losers and suckers.' Who would say such a thing?" Trump posted on Truth Social, calling the accusation "made up disinformation" coming from his opponents.

However, there appeared to be no evidence of an audio or video recording of the remarks in question, nor was there any documentation, such as transcripts or presidential notes, to independently confirm the alleged quotes' authenticity.]


PS

That whole story was cooked up by Jeffery Goldberg at the Atlantic.

And old Jeff seems like a wonderful and totally not partisan guy...

[Goldberg is Jewish and was born in Brooklyn, New York, the son of Ellen and Daniel Goldberg. Goldberg has described his parents as "very left-wing." His grandfather was from Leova, Moldova. He grew up in suburban Malverne on Long Island, a predominately Catholic neighborhood which he once described as "a wasteland of Irish pogromists". Retroactively, when describing his first trip to Israel as a teen, Goldberg recalled the sense of empowerment he felt Israel embodied...]

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Confirmed by Trump staffers

In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers." In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as "suckers" for getting killed.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-says-presidential-medal-of-freedom-is-better-than-the-medal-of-honor-217303621972

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Which Trump staffers confirmed the story from personal knowledge?

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Chief of staff Kelly

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Where? Not in the article you posted.

Redbrickbear said:

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"I'm on team joy now, asshole!" pic.twitter.com/hg0FSWDXaf

— G (@stevensongs) September 7, 2024

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Cheney is going to be on the side of whichever politician gives us the greatest chance of going to war with Russia, and that's certainly Harris.

Redbrickbear said:

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"I'm on team joy now, asshole!" pic.twitter.com/hg0FSWDXaf

— G (@stevensongs) September 7, 2024

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Outstanding !

Oh, the times They are a-changin'

https://t.co/TNEjXpLBmO pic.twitter.com/6hwLmxpSuH

— Terry Adkins (@tla1004) September 7, 2024

Bloomberg catching a stray this morning

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Osodecentx said:

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Osodecentx said:

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historian said:

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Exactly

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Election in 60 days , yall argue about 2020 election, & crowd sizes

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Giggles is busing her crowds in for her rallies.

Better?

---

There ya go!!! Independents really care about that

Why not attack Gov Hailey supporters & the Georgia governor? Unity!!!

---

He isn't doing that at all.

The neverTrumpers are the bigger obstacle to unity.

---

He did all that & called POWs losers & Medal of Honor winners (well, you know)
& NTs are the problem?

Trump is never responsible

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[Former President Trump again denied referring to dead U.S. soldiers as "suckers" and "losers" ...

"Obviously, I never said that dead Soldiers are 'losers and suckers.' Who would say such a thing?" Trump posted on Truth Social, calling the accusation "made up disinformation" coming from his opponents.

However, there appeared to be no evidence of an audio or video recording of the remarks in question, nor was there any documentation, such as transcripts or presidential notes, to independently confirm the alleged quotes' authenticity.]


PS

That whole story was cooked up by Jeffery Goldberg at the Atlantic.

And old Jeff seems like a wonderful and totally not partisan guy...

[Goldberg is Jewish and was born in Brooklyn, New York, the son of Ellen and Daniel Goldberg. Goldberg has described his parents as "very left-wing." His grandfather was from Leova, Moldova. He grew up in suburban Malverne on Long Island, a predominately Catholic neighborhood which he once described as "a wasteland of Irish pogromists". Retroactively, when describing his first trip to Israel as a teen, Goldberg recalled the sense of empowerment he felt Israel embodied...]

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Confirmed by Trump staffers

In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers." In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as "suckers" for getting killed.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-says-presidential-medal-of-freedom-is-better-than-the-medal-of-honor-217303621972

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Never happened.

Totally made up quote that you have fallen for hook line and sinker.

19 Staffers denied Trump ever said it.

Jeffrey "raised by far leftist parents who hates his Irish catholic neighbors" Goldberg over at the Atlantic never provided any evidence he said it.

I mean step back for a second and think about the mindless propaganda you are feeding other people.

This does not sound like something Trump (or anyone other than a radical Marxist professor) would say

[Staffers from the National Security Council and the Secret Service told Trump that rainy weather made helicopter travel to the cemetery risky, but they could drive there. Trump responded by saying he didn't want to visit the cemetery because it was "filled with losers," ]

I mean it almost hilariously bad propaganda....its not even sort of believable

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It was his chief of staff who actually heard him say that. I'm quoting a named source while you rely on anonymous sources 19 staffers) Who has fallen hook line and sinker. It supports Goldberg's story.
Interesting that the religion of the author seems important to you

Former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly is blasting his onetime boss over disparaging remarks he says the then-president repeatedly made about service members and veterans and for what he called Trump's untruthfulness about his positions on various groups as well as on abortion.
In a statement to CNN published Monday, Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

"A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all 'suckers' because 'there is nothing in it for them,'" Kelly said of Trump. "A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because 'it doesn't look good for me.' A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family for all Gold Star families on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America's defense are 'losers' and wouldn't visit their graves in France."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/john-kelly-confirms-trump-privately-disparaged-us-service-members-vete-rcna118543

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I see nothing in the portions you quoted that says this dude has any firsthand knowledge.

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Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

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GrowlTowel said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Exactly

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Election in 60 days , yall argue about 2020 election, & crowd sizes

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Giggles is busing her crowds in for her rallies.

Better?

---

There ya go!!! Independents really care about that

Why not attack Gov Hailey supporters & the Georgia governor? Unity!!!

---

He isn't doing that at all.

The neverTrumpers are the bigger obstacle to unity.

---

He did all that & called POWs losers & Medal of Honor winners (well, you know)
& NTs are the problem?

Trump is never responsible

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[Former President Trump again denied referring to dead U.S. soldiers as "suckers" and "losers" ...

"Obviously, I never said that dead Soldiers are 'losers and suckers.' Who would say such a thing?" Trump posted on Truth Social, calling the accusation "made up disinformation" coming from his opponents.

However, there appeared to be no evidence of an audio or video recording of the remarks in question, nor was there any documentation, such as transcripts or presidential notes, to independently confirm the alleged quotes' authenticity.]


PS

That whole story was cooked up by Jeffery Goldberg at the Atlantic.

And old Jeff seems like a wonderful and totally not partisan guy...

[Goldberg is Jewish and was born in Brooklyn, New York, the son of Ellen and Daniel Goldberg. Goldberg has described his parents as "very left-wing." His grandfather was from Leova, Moldova. He grew up in suburban Malverne on Long Island, a predominately Catholic neighborhood which he once described as "a wasteland of Irish pogromists". Retroactively, when describing his first trip to Israel as a teen, Goldberg recalled the sense of empowerment he felt Israel embodied...]

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Confirmed by Trump staffers

In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers." In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as "suckers" for getting killed.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-says-presidential-medal-of-freedom-is-better-than-the-medal-of-honor-217303621972

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Never happened.

Totally made up quote that you have fallen for hook line and sinker.

19 Staffers denied Trump ever said it.

Jeffrey "raised by far leftist parents who hates his Irish catholic neighbors" Goldberg over at the Atlantic never provided any evidence he said it.

I mean step back for a second and think about the mindless propaganda you are feeding other people.

This does not sound like something Trump (or anyone other than a radical Marxist professor) would say

[Staffers from the National Security Council and the Secret Service told Trump that rainy weather made helicopter travel to the cemetery risky, but they could drive there. Trump responded by saying he didn't want to visit the cemetery because it was "filled with losers," ]

I mean it almost hilariously bad propaganda....its not even sort of believable

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It was his chief of staff who actually heard him say that. I'm quoting a named source while you rely on anonymous sources 19 staffers) Who has fallen hook line and sinker. It supports Goldberg's story.
Interesting that the religion of the author seems important to you

Former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly is blasting his onetime boss over disparaging remarks he says the then-president repeatedly made about service members and veterans and for what he called Trump's untruthfulness about his positions on various groups as well as on abortion.
In a statement to CNN published Monday, Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

"A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all 'suckers' because 'there is nothing in it for them,'" Kelly said of Trump. "A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because 'it doesn't look good for me.' A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family for all Gold Star families on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America's defense are 'losers' and wouldn't visit their graves in France."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/john-kelly-confirms-trump-privately-disparaged-us-service-members-vete-rcna118543

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I see nothing in the portions you quoted that says this dude has any firsthand knowledge.

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Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

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Again, I read the article, and it doesn't say he heard Trump say that, nor does it give any indicia of first hand knowledge, as others have pointed out.

Agree that Kelly hates Trump. No question. But that's irrelevant.

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Agree that Kelly hates Trump. No question. But that's irrelevant.

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Most of Trump's former Cabinet feel the same as Kelly. After working with Trump for 1 year they say OMG WTH was I thinking.

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Agree that Kelly hates Trump. No question. But that's irrelevant.

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Most of Trump's former Cabinet feel the same as Kelly. After working with Trump for 1 year they say OMG WTH was I thinking.

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You can believe that if you wish, but it does not mean Kelly actually heard what he claimed.

TDS seems to abhor Reality.

Again, Trump actually says and does a lot of things you could criticize, but hanging on to this BS story only makes you look a fool.

I'm not taking part in what Kelly said or didn't say. I'm just stating that anyone who worked for Trump in his Cabinet usually became disenchanted with his showboat style,

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Mothra said:

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Agree that Kelly hates Trump. No question. But that's irrelevant.

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Most of Trump's former Cabinet feel the same as Kelly. After working with Trump for 1 year they say OMG WTH was I thinking.

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Yes, it really says a lot when a politician's staff hates them, doesn't it?

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/30/kamala-harris-office-dissent-497290


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/12/04/kamala-harris-staff-departures/

https://nypost.com/2024/08/02/us-news/kamala-harris-berated-staff-with-f-bombs-report/

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Exactly

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Election in 60 days , yall argue about 2020 election, & crowd sizes

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Giggles is busing her crowds in for her rallies.

Better?

---

There ya go!!! Independents really care about that

Why not attack Gov Hailey supporters & the Georgia governor? Unity!!!

---

He isn't doing that at all.

The neverTrumpers are the bigger obstacle to unity.

---

He did all that & called POWs losers & Medal of Honor winners (well, you know)
& NTs are the problem?

Trump is never responsible

---

[Former President Trump again denied referring to dead U.S. soldiers as "suckers" and "losers" ...

"Obviously, I never said that dead Soldiers are 'losers and suckers.' Who would say such a thing?" Trump posted on Truth Social, calling the accusation "made up disinformation" coming from his opponents.

However, there appeared to be no evidence of an audio or video recording of the remarks in question, nor was there any documentation, such as transcripts or presidential notes, to independently confirm the alleged quotes' authenticity.]


PS

That whole story was cooked up by Jeffery Goldberg at the Atlantic.

And old Jeff seems like a wonderful and totally not partisan guy...

[Goldberg is Jewish and was born in Brooklyn, New York, the son of Ellen and Daniel Goldberg. Goldberg has described his parents as "very left-wing." His grandfather was from Leova, Moldova. He grew up in suburban Malverne on Long Island, a predominately Catholic neighborhood which he once described as "a wasteland of Irish pogromists". Retroactively, when describing his first trip to Israel as a teen, Goldberg recalled the sense of empowerment he felt Israel embodied...]

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Confirmed by Trump staffers

In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers." In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as "suckers" for getting killed.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-says-presidential-medal-of-freedom-is-better-than-the-medal-of-honor-217303621972

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Never happened.

Totally made up quote that you have fallen for hook line and sinker.

19 Staffers denied Trump ever said it.

Jeffrey "raised by far leftist parents who hates his Irish catholic neighbors" Goldberg over at the Atlantic never provided any evidence he said it.

I mean step back for a second and think about the mindless propaganda you are feeding other people.

This does not sound like something Trump (or anyone other than a radical Marxist professor) would say

[Staffers from the National Security Council and the Secret Service told Trump that rainy weather made helicopter travel to the cemetery risky, but they could drive there. Trump responded by saying he didn't want to visit the cemetery because it was "filled with losers," ]

I mean it almost hilariously bad propaganda....its not even sort of believable

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It was his chief of staff who actually heard him say that. I'm quoting a named source while you rely on anonymous sources 19 staffers) Who has fallen hook line and sinker. It supports Goldberg's story.
Interesting that the religion of the author seems important to you

Former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly is blasting his onetime boss over disparaging remarks he says the then-president repeatedly made about service members and veterans and for what he called Trump's untruthfulness about his positions on various groups as well as on abortion.
In a statement to CNN published Monday, Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

"A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all 'suckers' because 'there is nothing in it for them,'" Kelly said of Trump. "A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because 'it doesn't look good for me.' A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family for all Gold Star families on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America's defense are 'losers' and wouldn't visit their graves in France."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/john-kelly-confirms-trump-privately-disparaged-us-service-members-vete-rcna118543

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I see nothing in the portions you quoted that says this dude has any firsthand knowledge.

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Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

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Again, I read the article, and it doesn't say he heard Trump say that, nor does it give any indicia of first hand knowledge, as others have pointed out.

Agree that Kelly hates Trump. No question. But that's irrelevant.

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Kelly confirmed reporting that detailed the comments Trump made. How would the chief of staff confirm it

Osodecentx said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Osodecentx said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Osodecentx said:

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historian said:

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Exactly

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Election in 60 days , yall argue about 2020 election, & crowd sizes

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Giggles is busing her crowds in for her rallies.

Better?

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There ya go!!! Independents really care about that

Why not attack Gov Hailey supporters & the Georgia governor? Unity!!!

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He isn't doing that at all.

The neverTrumpers are the bigger obstacle to unity.

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He did all that & called POWs losers & Medal of Honor winners (well, you know)
& NTs are the problem?

Trump is never responsible

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[Former President Trump again denied referring to dead U.S. soldiers as "suckers" and "losers" ...

"Obviously, I never said that dead Soldiers are 'losers and suckers.' Who would say such a thing?" Trump posted on Truth Social, calling the accusation "made up disinformation" coming from his opponents.

However, there appeared to be no evidence of an audio or video recording of the remarks in question, nor was there any documentation, such as transcripts or presidential notes, to independently confirm the alleged quotes' authenticity.]


PS

That whole story was cooked up by Jeffery Goldberg at the Atlantic.

And old Jeff seems like a wonderful and totally not partisan guy...

[Goldberg is Jewish and was born in Brooklyn, New York, the son of Ellen and Daniel Goldberg. Goldberg has described his parents as "very left-wing." His grandfather was from Leova, Moldova. He grew up in suburban Malverne on Long Island, a predominately Catholic neighborhood which he once described as "a wasteland of Irish pogromists". Retroactively, when describing his first trip to Israel as a teen, Goldberg recalled the sense of empowerment he felt Israel embodied...]

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Confirmed by Trump staffers

In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers." In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as "suckers" for getting killed.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-says-presidential-medal-of-freedom-is-better-than-the-medal-of-honor-217303621972

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Never happened.

Totally made up quote that you have fallen for hook line and sinker.

19 Staffers denied Trump ever said it.

Jeffrey "raised by far leftist parents who hates his Irish catholic neighbors" Goldberg over at the Atlantic never provided any evidence he said it.

I mean step back for a second and think about the mindless propaganda you are feeding other people.

This does not sound like something Trump (or anyone other than a radical Marxist professor) would say

[Staffers from the National Security Council and the Secret Service told Trump that rainy weather made helicopter travel to the cemetery risky, but they could drive there. Trump responded by saying he didn't want to visit the cemetery because it was "filled with losers," ]

I mean it almost hilariously bad propaganda....its not even sort of believable

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It was his chief of staff who actually heard him say that. I'm quoting a named source while you rely on anonymous sources 19 staffers) Who has fallen hook line and sinker. It supports Goldberg's story.
Interesting that the religion of the author seems important to you

Former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly is blasting his onetime boss over disparaging remarks he says the then-president repeatedly made about service members and veterans and for what he called Trump's untruthfulness about his positions on various groups as well as on abortion.
In a statement to CNN published Monday, Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

"A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all 'suckers' because 'there is nothing in it for them,'" Kelly said of Trump. "A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because 'it doesn't look good for me.' A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family for all Gold Star families on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America's defense are 'losers' and wouldn't visit their graves in France."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/john-kelly-confirms-trump-privately-disparaged-us-service-members-vete-rcna118543

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I see nothing in the portions you quoted that says this dude has any firsthand knowledge.

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Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

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Again, I read the article, and it doesn't say he heard Trump say that, nor does it give any indicia of first hand knowledge, as others have pointed out.

Agree that Kelly hates Trump. No question. But that's irrelevant.

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Kelly confirmed reporting that detailed the comments Trump made. How would the chief of staff confirm it

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Spite?

Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Osodecentx said:

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historian said:

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Exactly

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Election in 60 days , yall argue about 2020 election, & crowd sizes

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Giggles is busing her crowds in for her rallies.

Better?

---

There ya go!!! Independents really care about that

Why not attack Gov Hailey supporters & the Georgia governor? Unity!!!

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He isn't doing that at all.

The neverTrumpers are the bigger obstacle to unity.

---

He did all that & called POWs losers & Medal of Honor winners (well, you know)
& NTs are the problem?

Trump is never responsible

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[Former President Trump again denied referring to dead U.S. soldiers as "suckers" and "losers" ...

"Obviously, I never said that dead Soldiers are 'losers and suckers.' Who would say such a thing?" Trump posted on Truth Social, calling the accusation "made up disinformation" coming from his opponents.

However, there appeared to be no evidence of an audio or video recording of the remarks in question, nor was there any documentation, such as transcripts or presidential notes, to independently confirm the alleged quotes' authenticity.]


PS

That whole story was cooked up by Jeffery Goldberg at the Atlantic.

And old Jeff seems like a wonderful and totally not partisan guy...

[Goldberg is Jewish and was born in Brooklyn, New York, the son of Ellen and Daniel Goldberg. Goldberg has described his parents as "very left-wing." His grandfather was from Leova, Moldova. He grew up in suburban Malverne on Long Island, a predominately Catholic neighborhood which he once described as "a wasteland of Irish pogromists". Retroactively, when describing his first trip to Israel as a teen, Goldberg recalled the sense of empowerment he felt Israel embodied...]

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Confirmed by Trump staffers

In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers." In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as "suckers" for getting killed.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-says-presidential-medal-of-freedom-is-better-than-the-medal-of-honor-217303621972

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Never happened.

Totally made up quote that you have fallen for hook line and sinker.

19 Staffers denied Trump ever said it.

Jeffrey "raised by far leftist parents who hates his Irish catholic neighbors" Goldberg over at the Atlantic never provided any evidence he said it.

I mean step back for a second and think about the mindless propaganda you are feeding other people.

This does not sound like something Trump (or anyone other than a radical Marxist professor) would say

[Staffers from the National Security Council and the Secret Service told Trump that rainy weather made helicopter travel to the cemetery risky, but they could drive there. Trump responded by saying he didn't want to visit the cemetery because it was "filled with losers," ]

I mean it almost hilariously bad propaganda....its not even sort of believable

---

It was his chief of staff who actually heard him say that. I'm quoting a named source while you rely on anonymous sources 19 staffers) Who has fallen hook line and sinker. It supports Goldberg's story.
Interesting that the religion of the author seems important to you

Former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly is blasting his onetime boss over disparaging remarks he says the then-president repeatedly made about service members and veterans and for what he called Trump's untruthfulness about his positions on various groups as well as on abortion.
In a statement to CNN published Monday, Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

"A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all 'suckers' because 'there is nothing in it for them,'" Kelly said of Trump. "A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because 'it doesn't look good for me.' A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family for all Gold Star families on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America's defense are 'losers' and wouldn't visit their graves in France."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/john-kelly-confirms-trump-privately-disparaged-us-service-members-vete-rcna118543

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I see nothing in the portions you quoted that says this dude has any firsthand knowledge.

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Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

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Again, I read the article, and it doesn't say he heard Trump say that, nor does it give any indicia of first hand knowledge, as others have pointed out.

Agree that Kelly hates Trump. No question. But that's irrelevant.

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Kelly confirmed reporting that detailed the comments Trump made. How would the chief of staff confirm it

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Who knows? Maybe he heard it from someone. Maybe he is lying. In either regard, he hasn't given the foundation for his first hand knowledge. If he had come out and said, "I heard Trump say that," instead of offering vague confirmations, then that would be one thing. But he never did that, as others have pointed out above.

So at this point, you are making an unwarranted assumption that is not supported by your article or Kelly's comments.

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TDS seems to abhor Reality.

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Yep

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Osodecentx said:

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historian said:

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Exactly

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Election in 60 days , yall argue about 2020 election, & crowd sizes

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Giggles is busing her crowds in for her rallies.

Better?

---

There ya go!!! Independents really care about that

Why not attack Gov Hailey supporters & the Georgia governor? Unity!!!

---

He isn't doing that at all.

The neverTrumpers are the bigger obstacle to unity.

---

He did all that & called POWs losers & Medal of Honor winners (well, you know)
& NTs are the problem?

Trump is never responsible

---

[Former President Trump again denied referring to dead U.S. soldiers as "suckers" and "losers" ...

"Obviously, I never said that dead Soldiers are 'losers and suckers.' Who would say such a thing?" Trump posted on Truth Social, calling the accusation "made up disinformation" coming from his opponents.

However, there appeared to be no evidence of an audio or video recording of the remarks in question, nor was there any documentation, such as transcripts or presidential notes, to independently confirm the alleged quotes' authenticity.]


PS

That whole story was cooked up by Jeffery Goldberg at the Atlantic.

And old Jeff seems like a wonderful and totally not partisan guy...

[Goldberg is Jewish and was born in Brooklyn, New York, the son of Ellen and Daniel Goldberg. Goldberg has described his parents as "very left-wing." His grandfather was from Leova, Moldova. He grew up in suburban Malverne on Long Island, a predominately Catholic neighborhood which he once described as "a wasteland of Irish pogromists". Retroactively, when describing his first trip to Israel as a teen, Goldberg recalled the sense of empowerment he felt Israel embodied...]

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Confirmed by Trump staffers

In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers." In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as "suckers" for getting killed.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-says-presidential-medal-of-freedom-is-better-than-the-medal-of-honor-217303621972

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Never happened.

Totally made up quote that you have fallen for hook line and sinker.

19 Staffers denied Trump ever said it.

Jeffrey "raised by far leftist parents who hates his Irish catholic neighbors" Goldberg over at the Atlantic never provided any evidence he said it.

I mean step back for a second and think about the mindless propaganda you are feeding other people.

This does not sound like something Trump (or anyone other than a radical Marxist professor) would say

[Staffers from the National Security Council and the Secret Service told Trump that rainy weather made helicopter travel to the cemetery risky, but they could drive there. Trump responded by saying he didn't want to visit the cemetery because it was "filled with losers," ]

I mean it almost hilariously bad propaganda....its not even sort of believable

---

It was his chief of staff who actually heard him say that. I'm quoting a named source while you rely on anonymous sources 19 staffers) Who has fallen hook line and sinker. It supports Goldberg's story.
Interesting that the religion of the author seems important to you

Former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly is blasting his onetime boss over disparaging remarks he says the then-president repeatedly made about service members and veterans and for what he called Trump's untruthfulness about his positions on various groups as well as on abortion.
In a statement to CNN published Monday, Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

"A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all 'suckers' because 'there is nothing in it for them,'" Kelly said of Trump. "A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because 'it doesn't look good for me.' A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family for all Gold Star families on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America's defense are 'losers' and wouldn't visit their graves in France."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/john-kelly-confirms-trump-privately-disparaged-us-service-members-vete-rcna118543

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I see nothing in the portions you quoted that says this dude has any firsthand knowledge.

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Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

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Again, I read the article, and it doesn't say he heard Trump say that, nor does it give any indicia of first hand knowledge, as others have pointed out.

Agree that Kelly hates Trump. No question. But that's irrelevant.

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Irrelevant? Of course it is relevant. Personal feelings are a very strong motivator, especially to those that have been deferred to for a very long time. The guy was a 4-star General, how many times has he been said "no" to in the last 30 years?

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Agree that Kelly hates Trump. No question. But that's irrelevant.

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Most of Trump's former Cabinet feel the same as Kelly. After working with Trump for 1 year they say OMG WTH was I thinking.

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Yes, it really says a lot when a politician's staff hates them, doesn't it?

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/30/kamala-harris-office-dissent-497290


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/12/04/kamala-harris-staff-departures/

https://nypost.com/2024/08/02/us-news/kamala-harris-berated-staff-with-f-bombs-report/

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Kamala's staff are fleeing in droves because she is a nasty, evil person. It fits the profile: Joe & the Ho are obsessed with killing babies and mutilating children. They do not seem like friendly people to spend time with in any fashion. As a boss, they would be nightmarish.

historian said:

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JXL said:

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Aliceinbubbleland said:

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Mothra said:

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Agree that Kelly hates Trump. No question. But that's irrelevant.

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Most of Trump's former Cabinet feel the same as Kelly. After working with Trump for 1 year they say OMG WTH was I thinking.

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Yes, it really says a lot when a politician's staff hates them, doesn't it?

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/06/30/kamala-harris-office-dissent-497290


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/12/04/kamala-harris-staff-departures/

https://nypost.com/2024/08/02/us-news/kamala-harris-berated-staff-with-f-bombs-report/

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Kamala's staff are fleeing in droves because she is a nasty, evil person. It fits the profile: Joe & the Ho are obsessed with killing babies and mutilating children. They do not seem like friendly people to spend time with in any fashion. As a boss, they would be nightmarish.

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X 1,000

FLBear5630 said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Osodecentx said:

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historian said:

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Exactly

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Election in 60 days , yall argue about 2020 election, & crowd sizes

---

Giggles is busing her crowds in for her rallies.

Better?

---

There ya go!!! Independents really care about that

Why not attack Gov Hailey supporters & the Georgia governor? Unity!!!

---

He isn't doing that at all.

The neverTrumpers are the bigger obstacle to unity.

---

He did all that & called POWs losers & Medal of Honor winners (well, you know)
& NTs are the problem?

Trump is never responsible

---

[Former President Trump again denied referring to dead U.S. soldiers as "suckers" and "losers" ...

"Obviously, I never said that dead Soldiers are 'losers and suckers.' Who would say such a thing?" Trump posted on Truth Social, calling the accusation "made up disinformation" coming from his opponents.

However, there appeared to be no evidence of an audio or video recording of the remarks in question, nor was there any documentation, such as transcripts or presidential notes, to independently confirm the alleged quotes' authenticity.]


PS

That whole story was cooked up by Jeffery Goldberg at the Atlantic.

And old Jeff seems like a wonderful and totally not partisan guy...

[Goldberg is Jewish and was born in Brooklyn, New York, the son of Ellen and Daniel Goldberg. Goldberg has described his parents as "very left-wing." His grandfather was from Leova, Moldova. He grew up in suburban Malverne on Long Island, a predominately Catholic neighborhood which he once described as "a wasteland of Irish pogromists". Retroactively, when describing his first trip to Israel as a teen, Goldberg recalled the sense of empowerment he felt Israel embodied...]

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Confirmed by Trump staffers

In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers." In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as "suckers" for getting killed.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-says-presidential-medal-of-freedom-is-better-than-the-medal-of-honor-217303621972

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Never happened.

Totally made up quote that you have fallen for hook line and sinker.

19 Staffers denied Trump ever said it.

Jeffrey "raised by far leftist parents who hates his Irish catholic neighbors" Goldberg over at the Atlantic never provided any evidence he said it.

I mean step back for a second and think about the mindless propaganda you are feeding other people.

This does not sound like something Trump (or anyone other than a radical Marxist professor) would say

[Staffers from the National Security Council and the Secret Service told Trump that rainy weather made helicopter travel to the cemetery risky, but they could drive there. Trump responded by saying he didn't want to visit the cemetery because it was "filled with losers," ]

I mean it almost hilariously bad propaganda....its not even sort of believable

---

It was his chief of staff who actually heard him say that. I'm quoting a named source while you rely on anonymous sources 19 staffers) Who has fallen hook line and sinker. It supports Goldberg's story.
Interesting that the religion of the author seems important to you

Former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly is blasting his onetime boss over disparaging remarks he says the then-president repeatedly made about service members and veterans and for what he called Trump's untruthfulness about his positions on various groups as well as on abortion.
In a statement to CNN published Monday, Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

"A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all 'suckers' because 'there is nothing in it for them,'" Kelly said of Trump. "A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because 'it doesn't look good for me.' A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family for all Gold Star families on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America's defense are 'losers' and wouldn't visit their graves in France."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/john-kelly-confirms-trump-privately-disparaged-us-service-members-vete-rcna118543

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I see nothing in the portions you quoted that says this dude has any firsthand knowledge.

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Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

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Again, I read the article, and it doesn't say he heard Trump say that, nor does it give any indicia of first hand knowledge, as others have pointed out.

Agree that Kelly hates Trump. No question. But that's irrelevant.

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Irrelevant? Of course it is relevant. Personal feelings are a very strong motivator, especially to those that have been deferred to for a very long time. The guy was a 4-star General, how many times has he been said "no" to in the last 30 years?

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Irrelevant to what was actually said, not to his motivations, including his motivation to lie.

Context.

Mothra said:

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Mothra said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Osodecentx said:

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historian said:

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Exactly

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Election in 60 days , yall argue about 2020 election, & crowd sizes

---

Giggles is busing her crowds in for her rallies.

Better?

---

There ya go!!! Independents really care about that

Why not attack Gov Hailey supporters & the Georgia governor? Unity!!!

---

He isn't doing that at all.

The neverTrumpers are the bigger obstacle to unity.

---

He did all that & called POWs losers & Medal of Honor winners (well, you know)
& NTs are the problem?

Trump is never responsible

---

[Former President Trump again denied referring to dead U.S. soldiers as "suckers" and "losers" ...

"Obviously, I never said that dead Soldiers are 'losers and suckers.' Who would say such a thing?" Trump posted on Truth Social, calling the accusation "made up disinformation" coming from his opponents.

However, there appeared to be no evidence of an audio or video recording of the remarks in question, nor was there any documentation, such as transcripts or presidential notes, to independently confirm the alleged quotes' authenticity.]


PS

That whole story was cooked up by Jeffery Goldberg at the Atlantic.

And old Jeff seems like a wonderful and totally not partisan guy...

[Goldberg is Jewish and was born in Brooklyn, New York, the son of Ellen and Daniel Goldberg. Goldberg has described his parents as "very left-wing." His grandfather was from Leova, Moldova. He grew up in suburban Malverne on Long Island, a predominately Catholic neighborhood which he once described as "a wasteland of Irish pogromists". Retroactively, when describing his first trip to Israel as a teen, Goldberg recalled the sense of empowerment he felt Israel embodied...]

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Confirmed by Trump staffers

In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers." In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as "suckers" for getting killed.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-says-presidential-medal-of-freedom-is-better-than-the-medal-of-honor-217303621972

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Never happened.

Totally made up quote that you have fallen for hook line and sinker.

19 Staffers denied Trump ever said it.

Jeffrey "raised by far leftist parents who hates his Irish catholic neighbors" Goldberg over at the Atlantic never provided any evidence he said it.

I mean step back for a second and think about the mindless propaganda you are feeding other people.

This does not sound like something Trump (or anyone other than a radical Marxist professor) would say

[Staffers from the National Security Council and the Secret Service told Trump that rainy weather made helicopter travel to the cemetery risky, but they could drive there. Trump responded by saying he didn't want to visit the cemetery because it was "filled with losers," ]

I mean it almost hilariously bad propaganda....its not even sort of believable

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It was his chief of staff who actually heard him say that. I'm quoting a named source while you rely on anonymous sources 19 staffers) Who has fallen hook line and sinker. It supports Goldberg's story.
Interesting that the religion of the author seems important to you

Former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly is blasting his onetime boss over disparaging remarks he says the then-president repeatedly made about service members and veterans and for what he called Trump's untruthfulness about his positions on various groups as well as on abortion.
In a statement to CNN published Monday, Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

"A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all 'suckers' because 'there is nothing in it for them,'" Kelly said of Trump. "A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because 'it doesn't look good for me.' A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family for all Gold Star families on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America's defense are 'losers' and wouldn't visit their graves in France."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/john-kelly-confirms-trump-privately-disparaged-us-service-members-vete-rcna118543

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I see nothing in the portions you quoted that says this dude has any firsthand knowledge.

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Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

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Again, I read the article, and it doesn't say he heard Trump say that, nor does it give any indicia of first hand knowledge, as others have pointed out.

Agree that Kelly hates Trump. No question. But that's irrelevant.

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Irrelevant? Of course it is relevant. Personal feelings are a very strong motivator, especially to those that have been deferred to for a very long time. The guy was a 4-star General, how many times has he been said "no" to in the last 30 years?

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Irrelevant to what was actually said, not to his motivations, including his motivation to lie.

Context.

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It plays to whether he actually said it.

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Election in 60 days , yall argue about 2020 election, & crowd sizes

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Giggles is busing her crowds in for her rallies.

Better?

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There ya go!!! Independents really care about that

Why not attack Gov Hailey supporters & the Georgia governor? Unity!!!

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He isn't doing that at all.

The neverTrumpers are the bigger obstacle to unity.

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He did all that & called POWs losers & Medal of Honor winners (well, you know)
& NTs are the problem?

Trump is never responsible

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[Former President Trump again denied referring to dead U.S. soldiers as "suckers" and "losers" ...

"Obviously, I never said that dead Soldiers are 'losers and suckers.' Who would say such a thing?" Trump posted on Truth Social, calling the accusation "made up disinformation" coming from his opponents.

However, there appeared to be no evidence of an audio or video recording of the remarks in question, nor was there any documentation, such as transcripts or presidential notes, to independently confirm the alleged quotes' authenticity.]


PS

That whole story was cooked up by Jeffery Goldberg at the Atlantic.

And old Jeff seems like a wonderful and totally not partisan guy...

[Goldberg is Jewish and was born in Brooklyn, New York, the son of Ellen and Daniel Goldberg. Goldberg has described his parents as "very left-wing." His grandfather was from Leova, Moldova. He grew up in suburban Malverne on Long Island, a predominately Catholic neighborhood which he once described as "a wasteland of Irish pogromists". Retroactively, when describing his first trip to Israel as a teen, Goldberg recalled the sense of empowerment he felt Israel embodied...]

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Confirmed by Trump staffers

In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers." In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as "suckers" for getting killed.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-says-presidential-medal-of-freedom-is-better-than-the-medal-of-honor-217303621972

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Never happened.

Totally made up quote that you have fallen for hook line and sinker.

19 Staffers denied Trump ever said it.

Jeffrey "raised by far leftist parents who hates his Irish catholic neighbors" Goldberg over at the Atlantic never provided any evidence he said it.

I mean step back for a second and think about the mindless propaganda you are feeding other people.

This does not sound like something Trump (or anyone other than a radical Marxist professor) would say

[Staffers from the National Security Council and the Secret Service told Trump that rainy weather made helicopter travel to the cemetery risky, but they could drive there. Trump responded by saying he didn't want to visit the cemetery because it was "filled with losers," ]

I mean it almost hilariously bad propaganda....its not even sort of believable

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It was his chief of staff who actually heard him say that. I'm quoting a named source while you rely on anonymous sources 19 staffers) Who has fallen hook line and sinker. It supports Goldberg's story.
Interesting that the religion of the author seems important to you

Former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly is blasting his onetime boss over disparaging remarks he says the then-president repeatedly made about service members and veterans and for what he called Trump's untruthfulness about his positions on various groups as well as on abortion.
In a statement to CNN published Monday, Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

"A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all 'suckers' because 'there is nothing in it for them,'" Kelly said of Trump. "A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because 'it doesn't look good for me.' A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family for all Gold Star families on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America's defense are 'losers' and wouldn't visit their graves in France."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/john-kelly-confirms-trump-privately-disparaged-us-service-members-vete-rcna118543

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I see nothing in the portions you quoted that says this dude has any firsthand knowledge.

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Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

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Again, I read the article, and it doesn't say he heard Trump say that, nor does it give any indicia of first hand knowledge, as others have pointed out.

Agree that Kelly hates Trump. No question. But that's irrelevant.

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Irrelevant? Of course it is relevant. Personal feelings are a very strong motivator, especially to those that have been deferred to for a very long time. The guy was a 4-star General, how many times has he been said "no" to in the last 30 years?

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Irrelevant to what was actually said, not to his motivations, including his motivation to lie.

Context.

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It plays to whether he actually said it.

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Nineteen witnesses present say no.

You and the hater say yes.

You lose.

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Osodecentx said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Osodecentx said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Exactly

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Election in 60 days , yall argue about 2020 election, & crowd sizes

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Giggles is busing her crowds in for her rallies.

Better?

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There ya go!!! Independents really care about that

Why not attack Gov Hailey supporters & the Georgia governor? Unity!!!

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He isn't doing that at all.

The neverTrumpers are the bigger obstacle to unity.

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He did all that & called POWs losers & Medal of Honor winners (well, you know)
& NTs are the problem?

Trump is never responsible

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[Former President Trump again denied referring to dead U.S. soldiers as "suckers" and "losers" ...

"Obviously, I never said that dead Soldiers are 'losers and suckers.' Who would say such a thing?" Trump posted on Truth Social, calling the accusation "made up disinformation" coming from his opponents.

However, there appeared to be no evidence of an audio or video recording of the remarks in question, nor was there any documentation, such as transcripts or presidential notes, to independently confirm the alleged quotes' authenticity.]


PS

That whole story was cooked up by Jeffery Goldberg at the Atlantic.

And old Jeff seems like a wonderful and totally not partisan guy...

[Goldberg is Jewish and was born in Brooklyn, New York, the son of Ellen and Daniel Goldberg. Goldberg has described his parents as "very left-wing." His grandfather was from Leova, Moldova. He grew up in suburban Malverne on Long Island, a predominately Catholic neighborhood which he once described as "a wasteland of Irish pogromists". Retroactively, when describing his first trip to Israel as a teen, Goldberg recalled the sense of empowerment he felt Israel embodied...]

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Confirmed by Trump staffers

In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers." In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as "suckers" for getting killed.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-says-presidential-medal-of-freedom-is-better-than-the-medal-of-honor-217303621972

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Never happened.

Totally made up quote that you have fallen for hook line and sinker.

19 Staffers denied Trump ever said it.

Jeffrey "raised by far leftist parents who hates his Irish catholic neighbors" Goldberg over at the Atlantic never provided any evidence he said it.

I mean step back for a second and think about the mindless propaganda you are feeding other people.

This does not sound like something Trump (or anyone other than a radical Marxist professor) would say

[Staffers from the National Security Council and the Secret Service told Trump that rainy weather made helicopter travel to the cemetery risky, but they could drive there. Trump responded by saying he didn't want to visit the cemetery because it was "filled with losers," ]

I mean it almost hilariously bad propaganda....its not even sort of believable

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It was his chief of staff who actually heard him say that. I'm quoting a named source while you rely on anonymous sources 19 staffers) Who has fallen hook line and sinker. It supports Goldberg's story.
Interesting that the religion of the author seems important to you

Former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly is blasting his onetime boss over disparaging remarks he says the then-president repeatedly made about service members and veterans and for what he called Trump's untruthfulness about his positions on various groups as well as on abortion.
In a statement to CNN published Monday, Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

"A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all 'suckers' because 'there is nothing in it for them,'" Kelly said of Trump. "A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because 'it doesn't look good for me.' A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family for all Gold Star families on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America's defense are 'losers' and wouldn't visit their graves in France."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/john-kelly-confirms-trump-privately-disparaged-us-service-members-vete-rcna118543

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I see nothing in the portions you quoted that says this dude has any firsthand knowledge.

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Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

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Again, I read the article, and it doesn't say he heard Trump say that, nor does it give any indicia of first hand knowledge, as others have pointed out.

Agree that Kelly hates Trump. No question. But that's irrelevant.

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Kelly confirmed reporting that detailed the comments Trump made. How would the chief of staff confirm it

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Who knows? Maybe he heard it from someone. Maybe he is lying. In either regard, he hasn't given the foundation for his first hand knowledge. If he had come out and said, "I heard Trump say that," instead of offering vague confirmations, then that would be one thing. But he never did that, as others have pointed out above.

So at this point, you are making an unwarranted assumption that is not supported by your article or Kelly's comments.

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Nobody spends more time with Trump than his COS. Atlantic reports the quote, and Trump's COS confirms Trump said it. I'm not sure what else would make you more sure.

Only anonymous sources refute the story
Trump says outrageous things all of the time. It is plausible and a confirmed source close to Trump