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I just signed a bill to make this illegal in the state of California.

You can no longer knowingly distribute an ad or other election communications that contain materially deceptive content -- including deepfakes. https://t.co/VU4b8RBf6N

— Gavin Newsom (@GavinNewsom) September 17, 2024

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These kind of laws will of course be selectively enforced.

Make a deep fake of Trump? you wont get prosecuted

Make a deep fake of Harris? you will get prosecuted

I remember when they put a social media guy in Federal prison for a twitter joke...

[right-wing social media influencer was sentenced to seven months in federal prison on Wednesday for spreading falsehoods via Twitter, now known as X, in an effort to suppress Democratic turnout in the 2016 presidential election.

Prosecutors said Mackey, who had 58,000 Twitter followers, conspired... November of 2016 to post falsely that supporters of Democrat Hillary Clinton could vote for her by text message or social media post.

For example, they said, Mackey tweeted a photo of a woman standing in front of an "African Americans for Hillary" sign. "Avoid the Line. Vote from Home," the tweet said. "Text 'Hillary' to 59925."
U.S. Attorney Breon Peace said in a statement that Mackey "weaponized disinformation in a dangerous scheme to stop targeted groups, including black and brown people and women, from participating in our democracy."]




https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/18/far-right-influencer-voter-suppression-00122364

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People deserve to be given context. Since this article gives none, here ya go! https://t.co/mjAqaEV4fv pic.twitter.com/92MVWrEnVp

— Rich Baris The People's Pundit (@Peoples_Pundit) September 17, 2024

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In fairness, GOP-leaning polls were way off in 2020 as well.

And if you look at state poll aggregates from 2020, they were not too bad.

The biggest concern for Trump right now is the sheer number of polls showing him down after the debate.

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they arent talking about the 6 that show him up vs her 9

Its more even then they let on

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What 6?

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I just signed a bill to make this illegal in the state of California.

You can no longer knowingly distribute an ad or other election communications that contain materially deceptive content -- including deepfakes. https://t.co/VU4b8RBf6N

— Gavin Newsom (@GavinNewsom) September 17, 2024

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so Harris can no longer campaign in CA..

Having 4 memoirs has to be end stage narcissism https://t.co/xjX5nT5ypN

— brit (@pashedmotatos) September 17, 2024

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ok, all you posters that post rando tweets from people know one has heard of ...why? I just don't get taking some rando whack job that has computer access and you people think is is all gospel. Help me here. I just do not understand.

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Red state and CNN are "rando whack jobs"?

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didn't answer the basic question

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LOL yes, I did. YOU didn't.

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don't know what you mean about red states, but I can generally take most on CNN, unlike CNBC and Foxy. My question that I posed, which you did not answer is....why in the world would someone post a rando tweet from some internet jockey that no-one has ever heard of? Don't get it.

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well, for starters, RedState is not some random internet jockey. It's a main-stream conservative blog that's been around for a couple of decades. It's co-founder, Ben Domenech (also publishes "The Transom," which has tens of thousands of subscribers) is one of the brighter minds on the right who has gone neverTrumper in no small part (I'm sure) due to the fact that he's married to Megan McCain. It's now owned by Salem Media group, a company with $250m/yr in revenues.

So who's the random whack job here?

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you. I don't have time to get into rando crap no-one knows about, hence lack of credibility

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JR pretending to be the authority on credibility ...

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I'm very credible. I don't not post on subject matter I know nothing about, unlike you old man. You just spew Fox blather.

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You and I have very different ideas of credible. You pick fights with anyone with a different opinion, and seem pathologically incapable of posting without including an insult.

As for me, where polls are concerned I speak from more than two decades of experience, and that includes personal discussions with people like Frank Gallup and Scott Rasmussen shortly after he founded his polling group in 2003.

You bragged about your MBA in Finance. Mine was concentrated in Accounting, which is germane to this discussion because it's the accountants who see crashes coming when the C-suite guys think the gravy train will never end. It's the accountants who sweat out how much of your cash flow comes from Operations and who is driving spending. In Business we watch out for idiots with stupid Capital spending, in Politics we know to watch the Senate and House Appropriations Committees.

The thing about Trump 2017-20 is that from 2017-18 he faced headwinds from Republicans angry he won, and from 2019-20 he was faced with a very hostile Congress controlled by Democrats.

And before you fall back on your go-to 'someone needs a job' cheap shot, I have worked for over four decades with hard numbers, doing my best to keep idiots from causing layoffs through bad C-suite decisions.

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Nah, I just said I had an MBA with a concentration in Finance and Economics after one of your acolytes told me I lack rudementary understanding of basic economics. I think I have a handle on economics. that's it.

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People deserve to be given context. Since this article gives none, here ya go! https://t.co/mjAqaEV4fv pic.twitter.com/92MVWrEnVp

— Rich Baris The People's Pundit (@Peoples_Pundit) September 17, 2024

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In fairness, GOP-leaning polls were way off in 2020 as well.

And if you look at state poll aggregates from 2020, they were not too bad.

The biggest concern for Trump right now is the sheer number of polls showing him down after the debate.

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Rass is a "GOP leaning" poll and it was off towards Dems in 2020

They constantly under estimate Trump. Trafalgar was the only one I saw that got way out in right field so to speak..

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Rasmussen polls a universe that is +2 Democrat. They consistently have had higher approval ratings for Biden than other polling firms, at or near 50% for most of his term. Still have him in the 43-46% range . And yes, they also show Trump with a 2-pt lead.


Cannot write them off as some GOP friendly spin machine. They've been top 5 or better in accuracy the last several cycles.

TEAMSTERS RELEASE PRESIDENTIAL ENDORSEMENT POLLING DATA

“For the past year, the Teamsters Union has pledged to conduct the most inclusive, democratic, and transparent Presidential endorsement process in the history of our 121-year-old organization—and today we are delivering on… pic.twitter.com/CnFNN9uosx

— Teamsters (@Teamsters) September 18, 2024

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Having 4 memoirs has to be end stage narcissism https://t.co/xjX5nT5ypN

— brit (@pashedmotatos) September 17, 2024

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Miss pee pee dossier resurfaces

file:///var/mobile/Library/SMS/Attachments/33/03/565B0A6C-5B7E-4421-B91E-100CCE3847F8/IMG_6958.jpeg

Wednesday grifting

Ex: this outfit is a player, not a pollster

The ones showing Harris with a big lead are over-sampling women to give her a bump.

NEW: Quinnipiac's 2020 scorecard, final poll error (against Trump)

🔴 PA: Error of 5.8 points
🔴 National: Error of 6.5 points
🔴 OH: Error of 13 points
🔴 FL: Error of 10.4 points
🔴 TX: Error of 4.6 points
🔴 GA: Error of 3.7 points

Courtesy of @Peoples_Pundit pic.twitter.com/Xv7cHfTBSE

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) September 18, 2024

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TEAMSTERS RELEASE PRESIDENTIAL ENDORSEMENT POLLING DATA

“For the past year, the Teamsters Union has pledged to conduct the most inclusive, democratic, and transparent Presidential endorsement process in the history of our 121-year-old organization—and today we are delivering on… pic.twitter.com/CnFNN9uosx

— Teamsters (@Teamsters) September 18, 2024

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According to CNBC at 2pm the Union will not endorse a candidate.

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Ex: this outfit is a player, not a pollster

The ones showing Harris with a big lead are over-sampling women to give her a bump.

NEW: Quinnipiac's 2020 scorecard, final poll error (against Trump)

🔴 PA: Error of 5.8 points
🔴 National: Error of 6.5 points
🔴 OH: Error of 13 points
🔴 FL: Error of 10.4 points
🔴 TX: Error of 4.6 points
🔴 GA: Error of 3.7 points

Courtesy of @Peoples_Pundit pic.twitter.com/Xv7cHfTBSE

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) September 18, 2024

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What is the purpose of trying to inflate the results? Are they thinking more people are likely to get out and vote if they think their candidate is going to be the winner? Trying to create perceived strength to sway independents?

Nearly identical percentages of U.S. adults rate Donald Trump (46%) and Kamala Harris (44%) favorably in Gallup’s latest Sept. 3-15 poll, during which the candidates debated for the first time.

New data: https://t.co/NFwsBnW9Kn pic.twitter.com/sMgJ85Ntsy

— Gallup (@Gallup) September 18, 2024

BREAKING: Iranian hackers sent unsolicited information stolen from Donald Trump's campaign to people associated with Joe Biden's campaign, the FBI says. https://t.co/MzysYVIqvk

— The Associated Press (@AP) September 18, 2024

BREAKING: House rejects government funding bill linked to proof of citizenship for new voters https://t.co/aP8QYztpN3

— The Associated Press (@AP) September 18, 2024

The children of the community are the children of the community.

As close as we are now I don't think the national stuff is very significant

National polling trends among Independent voters by @foxnewspoll

Aug. 8
🟥 Trump: 51% (+8)
🟦 Harris: 43%

Sept. 16
🟦 Harris: 51% (+12)
🟥 Trump: 39%

Net 20 point swing towards Harris https://t.co/0i1DoWyjJe pic.twitter.com/Ud1CT3nTyZ

— InteractivePolls (@IAPolls2022) September 18, 2024

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TEAMSTERS RELEASE PRESIDENTIAL ENDORSEMENT POLLING DATA

“For the past year, the Teamsters Union has pledged to conduct the most inclusive, democratic, and transparent Presidential endorsement process in the history of our 121-year-old organization—and today we are delivering on… pic.twitter.com/CnFNN9uosx

— Teamsters (@Teamsters) September 18, 2024

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correct. National teamsters didnt endorse either

Several state teamster unions endorsed Harris this evening

GALLUP: In politics, as of today, do you consider yourself a Republican, a Democrat or an independent? (9/3-15)

🔵 Democrat: 30% [-1]
🔴 Republican: 29% [-1]
🟡 Independent: 40% [+1]
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With independent leaners

🔴 Republican: 50% [+4]
🔵 Democrat: 45% [-4]

[+/- change vs… pic.twitter.com/r02KLye7y5

— InteractivePolls (@IAPolls2022) September 19, 2024

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Serious issue not taken seriously until needed votes in Nov were on the line

Border Patrol reports that 28,873 encounters with migrants in the 5 Texas Sectors of the US border with Mexico in August.

That is down 72% from last year and 75% from the year before.

Remember in Aug 2022, they reported 52K encounters just in Del Rio sector. Now just 7K there. pic.twitter.com/9MAUVNtwjQ

— Jeremy Wallace (@JeremySWallace) September 17, 2024

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"only" 7,000 illegal aliens in one section of the Texas border. And that's an improvement over the past two years. Are we supposed to be happy & celebrate? After the fascists under Biden, Harris, Mayorkas, etc violated our laws to bring in 10+ million illegals so that they could steal elections indefinitely? And they don't care about the crime wave these criminals have caused, their victims, or the economic disaster, etc. How much taxpayer money is being wasted to provide housing, food, health care, etc to these criminals while Americans do with less or without?

Vance confronts NYTimes reporter:

https://notthebee.com/article/jd-vance-took-this-new-york-times-reporter-out-behind-the-woodshed-during-a-wisconsin-rally

You gotta give the fascist propagandist credit for bring willing to talk to Vance in a hostile environment.

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Serious issue not taken seriously until needed votes in Nov were on the line

Border Patrol reports that 28,873 encounters with migrants in the 5 Texas Sectors of the US border with Mexico in August.

That is down 72% from last year and 75% from the year before.

Remember in Aug 2022, they reported 52K encounters just in Del Rio sector. Now just 7K there. pic.twitter.com/9MAUVNtwjQ

— Jeremy Wallace (@JeremySWallace) September 17, 2024

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"only" 7,000 illegal aliens in one section of the Texas border. And that's an improvement over the past two years. Are we supposed to be happy & celebrate? After the fascists under Biden, Harris, Mayorkas, etc violated our laws to bring in 10+ million illegals so that they could steal elections indefinitely? And they don't care about the crime wave these criminals have caused, their victims, or the economic disaster, etc. How much taxpayer money is being wasted to provide housing, food, health care, etc to these criminals while Americans do with less or without?

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Can't cross and vote at this point. Now they are tough on the border. Too many will just gloss over. I fear another 4 years of Obama.

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Serious issue not taken seriously until needed votes in Nov were on the line

Border Patrol reports that 28,873 encounters with migrants in the 5 Texas Sectors of the US border with Mexico in August.

That is down 72% from last year and 75% from the year before.

Remember in Aug 2022, they reported 52K encounters just in Del Rio sector. Now just 7K there. pic.twitter.com/9MAUVNtwjQ

— Jeremy Wallace (@JeremySWallace) September 17, 2024

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"only" 7,000 illegal aliens in one section of the Texas border. And that's an improvement over the past two years. Are we supposed to be happy & celebrate? After the fascists under Biden, Harris, Mayorkas, etc violated our laws to bring in 10+ million illegals so that they could steal elections indefinitely? And they don't care about the crime wave these criminals have caused, their victims, or the economic disaster, etc. How much taxpayer money is being wasted to provide housing, food, health care, etc to these criminals while Americans do with less or without?

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Can't cross and vote at this point. Now they are tough on the border. Too many will just gloss over. I fear another 4 years of Obama.

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yes, they most certainly can vote. Just because it's illegal, doesn't mean they won't do it. It's illegal to cross the border, ya know......

Moreover, there's "illegal" and then there's "illegal." It is illegal to murder someone, and also a very robust system of law, fortified with steel & concrete - police departments, court rooms and prisons - to relentlessly apprehend, prosecute, and incarcerate murders. None of that exists for illegal immigration. It is a crime for which there is no prison sentence. Just deportation, if/when the USG decides to be bothered with enforcement at all, which it does very sparingly. We deported ca 300k people last year, about one-month of illegal crossings, or 1.5% of the small end of the range of estimated total illegal alien population.

For example, we do not even have in place any verification methods to prove citizenship. So how on earth could we even detect it? Is it really outlandish to propose that with an illegal immigration population of at least 20m people that a few hundred thousand of them might vote illegally? Again, they CAME here illegally, so how could we suggest "oh, no....they'd never do THAT!"

🇺🇲 Swing States Polling by Emerson

GEORGIA
🟥 Trump: 50% (+3)
🟦 Harris: 47%
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WISCONSIN
🟥 Trump: 49% (+1)
🟦 Harris: 48%
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PENNSYLVANIA
🟥 Trump: 48% (+1)
🟦 Harris: 47%
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ARIZONA
🟥 Trump: 49% (+1)
🟦 Harris: 48%
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MICHIGAN
🟦 Harris: 49% (+2)
🟥 Trump: 47%
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NEVADA
🟦…

— InteractivePolls (@IAPolls2022) September 19, 2024

#New General Election poll - Swing State's

Arizona - 🔴 Trump +1
Georgia - 🔴 Trump +3
Michigan - 🔵 Harris +2
Nevada - 🟡 Tie
N. Carolina - 🔵 Harris +1
Pennsylvania - 🔴 Trump +1
Wisconsin - 🔴 Trump +1

Emerson #B - LV - 9/17

— Political Polls (@PpollingNumbers) September 19, 2024

#NEW NATIONAL poll

🔴 Trump 47%
🔵 Harris: 47%

NYT/Siena | Sept. 11-16 | N=2,437LV

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) September 19, 2024

General Election Poll - Pennsylvania

🟥 Trump 49%
🟦 Harris 49%

NPR/Marist 9/12-9/17

Any PA poll that shows a TIE is a Trump lead because Amish don't have phones or internet.

— David D. Chapman (@davidchapman141) September 19, 2024

TRUMP LEADS IN NEW PENNSYLVANIA POLL

2024 Election in Pennsylvania
🟥Trump 50% (+2)
🟦Harris 48%

If Trump can win the keystone state by 2%, there is no doubt he will win the election.

InsiderAdvantage | September 14-15 | 800 LV pic.twitter.com/Ri6cP8mLXW

— Election Time (@ElectionTime_) September 18, 2024

NYT/SIENA POLL: Trump+9 in the Midwest (home to WI/MI).

In 2016, he won the Midwest by less than 5 points. In 2020, he won it by just 2 points.

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) September 19, 2024

I know this.....gotta take PA