BRUTAL: Democrat Gov. Josh Shapiro says he'd "never insult" Americans as "garbage," like Biden just said about Trump supporters.
— Trump War Room (@TrumpWarRoom) October 30, 2024
Kamala has not yet condemned this disgusting rhetoric — just hours after she said she was "proud" to serve with Biden. pic.twitter.com/PIusDWgbXc
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Even if it is AI it's brilliant because it's so believable.
Adriacus Peratuun said:
Whether it is Cheney, Bush, Rove, or any other part of the Establishment Wing of the Republican Party, they are either running to the Ds, running to the MSM, or quietly hoping for a miracle to revive their power base.
They are dinosaurs and the comet hit 8 years ago. They are politically dead or dying.
If it is any comfort, the Establishment Wing of the Democratic Party is equally dead/dying.
And such a massacre is one of the best things that could happen to this country.
I do agree with you on the Cheney, Bush and Rove part, their policies, starting with the invasion of Iraq, were not in our interest. No Fly zones were working, Sadaam provided a check for Iran and it kept ISIS from forming. Iraq destabilized the region, it did the exact opposite it was supposed to do.historian said:Adriacus Peratuun said:
Whether it is Cheney, Bush, Rove, or any other part of the Establishment Wing of the Republican Party, they are either running to the Ds, running to the MSM, or quietly hoping for a miracle to revive their power base.
They are dinosaurs and the comet hit 8 years ago. They are politically dead or dying.
If it is any comfort, the Establishment Wing of the Democratic Party is equally dead/dying.
And such a massacre is one of the best things that could happen to this country.
However, I believe you guys are painting ALL GOP non-MAGA as Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rove disciples and that is not true. That group has left the GOP, I do not put Haley in that group.
Check this out. Some obvious issues, namely the populists flag! But it has some interesting points, even though I do not agree with all the "leaders" and the flag.
Barack Obama is no centrist.FLBear5630 said:I do agree with you on the Cheney, Bush and Rove part, their policies, starting with the invasion of Iraq, were not in our interest. No Fly zones were working, Sadaam provided a check for Iran and it kept ISIS from forming. Iraq destabilized the region, it did the exact opposite it was supposed to do.historian said:Adriacus Peratuun said:
Whether it is Cheney, Bush, Rove, or any other part of the Establishment Wing of the Republican Party, they are either running to the Ds, running to the MSM, or quietly hoping for a miracle to revive their power base.
They are dinosaurs and the comet hit 8 years ago. They are politically dead or dying.
If it is any comfort, the Establishment Wing of the Democratic Party is equally dead/dying.
And such a massacre is one of the best things that could happen to this country.
However, I believe you guys are painting ALL GOP non-MAGA as Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rove disciples and that is not true. That group has left the GOP, I do not put Haley in that group.
Check this out. Some obvious issues, namely the populists flag! But it has some interesting points, even though I do not agree with all the "leaders" and the flag.
That is the worst category for me too! Bill Clinton, Joe Lieberman on the Dem. I think Haley, Romney, Kasich were GOP Centrists. Not, Obama or Hillary!whiterock said:Barack Obama is no centrist.FLBear5630 said:I do agree with you on the Cheney, Bush and Rove part, their policies, starting with the invasion of Iraq, were not in our interest. No Fly zones were working, Sadaam provided a check for Iran and it kept ISIS from forming. Iraq destabilized the region, it did the exact opposite it was supposed to do.historian said:Adriacus Peratuun said:
Whether it is Cheney, Bush, Rove, or any other part of the Establishment Wing of the Republican Party, they are either running to the Ds, running to the MSM, or quietly hoping for a miracle to revive their power base.
They are dinosaurs and the comet hit 8 years ago. They are politically dead or dying.
If it is any comfort, the Establishment Wing of the Democratic Party is equally dead/dying.
And such a massacre is one of the best things that could happen to this country.
However, I believe you guys are painting ALL GOP non-MAGA as Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rove disciples and that is not true. That group has left the GOP, I do not put Haley in that group.
Check this out. Some obvious issues, namely the populists flag! But it has some interesting points, even though I do not agree with all the "leaders" and the flag.
Some I agree with, even the Populist, just hate the flag.
BUDOS said:
Not disagreeing with you at all. Just asking what type of security measures are taken on these ballot drop boxes?
None. That's why it was easy for people to set them on fire in Oregon and Washington repeatedly.
Mothra said:Always found it incredibly ironic that these stupid *****es equate the right to kill your baby as "life or death" for women. Somewhere, Satan is smiling.Jack Bauer said:Narrator: It was literally the definition of hyperbole and exaggeration
— Matt Zelinsky (@MattZelinsky) October 28, 2024
Undoubtedly, these modern day abortion supporters say such things completely unaware of the extreme hypocrisy and stupidity of their words.
FLBear5630 said:I do agree with you on the Cheney, Bush and Rove part, their policies, starting with the invasion of Iraq, were not in our interest. No Fly zones were working, Sadaam provided a check for Iran and it kept ISIS from forming. Iraq destabilized the region, it did the exact opposite it was supposed to do.historian said:Adriacus Peratuun said:
Whether it is Cheney, Bush, Rove, or any other part of the Establishment Wing of the Republican Party, they are either running to the Ds, running to the MSM, or quietly hoping for a miracle to revive their power base.
They are dinosaurs and the comet hit 8 years ago. They are politically dead or dying.
If it is any comfort, the Establishment Wing of the Democratic Party is equally dead/dying.
And such a massacre is one of the best things that could happen to this country.
However, I believe you guys are painting ALL GOP non-MAGA as Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rove disciples and that is not true. That group has left the GOP, I do not put Haley in that group.
Check this out. Some obvious issues, namely the populists flag! But it has some interesting points, even though I do not agree with all the "leaders" and the flag.
I'm not painting with such a broad brush. I do not agree with those leaders either, & that was my focus. I think a lot of "conservatives" feel betrayed by the neocons, the likes of Bush, Cheney, etc.
I also noticed the populist flag. That's the first thing that i noticed. Whoever fid that is ignorant. Many of the details are laughable in their inaccuracy. For example, populists are not nativist and neither Barack Hussein Obama nor a Hillary Clinton is a centrist! Clearly, that graphic was created as Leftist propaganda. There are enough aspects that are correct, or at least close, to deceive people who might not know better.
I thought it might bring up some good conversation on what should be there? What did they get right? Etc,,,historian said:FLBear5630 said:I do agree with you on the Cheney, Bush and Rove part, their policies, starting with the invasion of Iraq, were not in our interest. No Fly zones were working, Sadaam provided a check for Iran and it kept ISIS from forming. Iraq destabilized the region, it did the exact opposite it was supposed to do.historian said:Adriacus Peratuun said:
Whether it is Cheney, Bush, Rove, or any other part of the Establishment Wing of the Republican Party, they are either running to the Ds, running to the MSM, or quietly hoping for a miracle to revive their power base.
They are dinosaurs and the comet hit 8 years ago. They are politically dead or dying.
If it is any comfort, the Establishment Wing of the Democratic Party is equally dead/dying.
And such a massacre is one of the best things that could happen to this country.
However, I believe you guys are painting ALL GOP non-MAGA as Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rove disciples and that is not true. That group has left the GOP, I do not put Haley in that group.
Check this out. Some obvious issues, namely the populists flag! But it has some interesting points, even though I do not agree with all the "leaders" and the flag.
I'm not painting with such a broad brush. I do not agree with those leaders either, & that was my focus. I think a lot of "conservatives" feel betrayed by the neocons, the likes of Bush, Cheney, etc.
I also noticed the populist flag. That's the first thing that i noticed. Whoever fid that is ignorant. Many of the details are laughable in their inaccuracy. For example, populists are not nativist and neither Barack Hussein Obama nor a Hillary Clinton is a centrist! Clearly, that graphic was created as Leftist propaganda. There are enough aspects that are correct, or at least close, to deceive people who might not know better.
It would be nice and helpful to know where people are coming from when they discuss issues on here. If someone agrees with the Populist flag, than I can temper my responses! Found it interesting and the number correct intriguing.
I found several things to quibble about. Some examples:
1. Those usually labeled "liberal" are anything but. I usually call them fascists because it's the most accurate label but Leftists also works. An accurate definition of liberal (classical liberalism) would be someone who believes in limited government, the free market system, individual liberty with moral responsibility, the rule of law, equal opportunity, etc. In other words, the Founding Fathers. The modern Left is the opposite of all this.
2. Leftists like to talk about "reproductive rights" when they really mean they want as many abortions as possible. It's about the "right" to murder the innocent.
3. Conservatives ard not interested in military spending as much as they want a strong defensive capability. They are not necessarily the same thing.
4. Rick Santorum is Catholic, hardly an evangelical and he hasn't been a public figure in years. Surely they could have gone up with another example.
5. Perhaps there should be a separate category for neocons.
etc
Basically, it's too simplistic. Most people probably fall under multiple categories when accurately described.
1. Those usually labeled "liberal" are anything but. I usually call them fascists because it's the most accurate label but Leftists also works. An accurate definition of liberal (classical liberalism) would be someone who believes in limited government, the free market system, individual liberty with moral responsibility, the rule of law, equal opportunity, etc. In other words, the Founding Fathers. The modern Left is the opposite of all this.
2. Leftists like to talk about "reproductive rights" when they really mean they want as many abortions as possible. It's about the "right" to murder the innocent.
3. Conservatives ard not interested in military spending as much as they want a strong defensive capability. They are not necessarily the same thing.
4. Rick Santorum is Catholic, hardly an evangelical and he hasn't been a public figure in years. Surely they could have gone up with another example.
5. Perhaps there should be a separate category for neocons.
etc
Basically, it's too simplistic. Most people probably fall under multiple categories when accurately described.
The centrist category is the neocons and neolibs.
The election if Trump does a job on a garbage route this week: https://t.co/cJ0yurtlyl pic.twitter.com/Y4Sy03g668
— Prison Mitch (@MidnightMitch) October 30, 2024
Go to 270towin.com and construct your best estimate for Tuesday, and give your reasons why.
Mine: (1) The recent court rulings in NV and VA allowing illegal and unverified ballots keep those states blue. (2) I think even the McCainiacs in Arizona have had enough. (3) Unfortunately I don't believe that the razor thin margins in the WI, MI, and PA are enough to overcome the steal there...and in recent history all three vote as a block.
Harris merely has to hold WI, MI, and PA to win. Trump has to hold AZ and GA and pull an upset in one of the three Harris states to win.
So unfortunately I don't see a path to victory despite the positive press. I hope I'm wrong.
scotus told VA it could remove names todayRealitybites said:
Go to 270towin.com and construct your best estimate for Tuesday, and give your reasons why.
Mine: (1) The recent court rulings in NV and VA allowing illegal and unverified ballots keep those states blue. (2) I think even the McCainiacs in Arizona have had enough. (3) Unfortunately I don't believe that the razor thin margins in the WI, MI, and PA are enough to overcome the steal there...and in recent history all three vote as a block.
So unfortunately I don't see a path to victory despite the positive press. I hope I'm wrong.
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That's good news, but are there enough voters downstate in Virginia to overcome the government-americans in Northern Virginia who are going to vote for Harris?
Realitybites said:
Go to 270towin.com and construct your best estimate for Tuesday, and give your reasons why.
Mine: (1) The recent court rulings in NV and VA allowing illegal and unverified ballots keep those states blue. (2) I think even the McCainiacs in Arizona have had enough. (3) Unfortunately I don't believe that the razor thin margins in the WI, MI, and PA are enough to overcome the steal there...and in recent history all three vote as a block.
Harris merely has to hold WI, MI, and PA to win. Trump has to hold AZ and GA and pull an upset in one of the three Harris states to win.
So unfortunately I don't see a path to victory despite the positive press. I hope I'm wrong.
SCOTUS just ruled in favor of Virginia. They will keep the illegals voting there. I expect Youngkin to aggressively stop the fraud & cheating now. Trump could flip the state.
Trump became Batman:
How Donald Trump Became Batman
https://pjmedia.com/scott-pinsker/2024/10/30/how-donald-trump-became-batman-n4933778
Clever analogy.
How Donald Trump Became Batman
https://pjmedia.com/scott-pinsker/2024/10/30/how-donald-trump-became-batman-n4933778
Clever analogy.
Random thoughts:
Obama is no Centrist. He ran in the primary as the not establishment outsider but spent his 8 years in office with one foot in the Establishment Camp and one foot in the Socialist Camp.
Current: Ds have abandoned any attempts to lure +2 voters and focused solely on TOTV +1 voters. They are flooding their base with emails and social media ads. Flooding……..like Noah level flooding. The OTA ads should be targeting policy voters but amazingly are targeting personality voters. Those folks decided months/weeks ago.
Ds are scared in NH. Scared. They have resorted to pulling out Bush Era Dinosaur Rs to try to grab votes.
Rs are flying an additional 800+ people to battleground CDs today. That effort is in addition to shifting 1,300 people within state to those battlegrounds. Previously 8,100 people are consistently "driving over" from adjoining safe districts to man phones, put up signs, etc. Rs ground game is massively improved. They want Johnson to have easy votes without realistic threats from Gaetz' Clan of ****heads.
Rs Senate floor is now thought to be 52 and not 51. Not sure which additional seat they feel certain to flip but assume it is Ohio.
Ds have a ton of establishment money. Buckets of cash. Big bills.
Obama is no Centrist. He ran in the primary as the not establishment outsider but spent his 8 years in office with one foot in the Establishment Camp and one foot in the Socialist Camp.
Current: Ds have abandoned any attempts to lure +2 voters and focused solely on TOTV +1 voters. They are flooding their base with emails and social media ads. Flooding……..like Noah level flooding. The OTA ads should be targeting policy voters but amazingly are targeting personality voters. Those folks decided months/weeks ago.
Ds are scared in NH. Scared. They have resorted to pulling out Bush Era Dinosaur Rs to try to grab votes.
Rs are flying an additional 800+ people to battleground CDs today. That effort is in addition to shifting 1,300 people within state to those battlegrounds. Previously 8,100 people are consistently "driving over" from adjoining safe districts to man phones, put up signs, etc. Rs ground game is massively improved. They want Johnson to have easy votes without realistic threats from Gaetz' Clan of ****heads.
Rs Senate floor is now thought to be 52 and not 51. Not sure which additional seat they feel certain to flip but assume it is Ohio.
Ds have a ton of establishment money. Buckets of cash. Big bills.
Fun item: Harris spent more $ in Nebraska CD2 than she spent in 14 states.
she had to..Adriacus Peratuun said:
Fun item: Harris spent more $ in Nebraska CD2 than she spent in 14 states.
That one electoral vote could cost her the whole thing
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That's one explanation. Not the only one......KaiBear said:whiterock said:
What's going on here?New Jersey Early In Person Vote:
— OSZ (@OpenSourceZone) October 29, 2024
🔴 144,105 (38.0%) +4,581
🔵 139,524(36.8%)
🟡 95,447 (25.2%)
Total: 379,076
Nothing
Republicans are finally just voting early.
Do I think Trump is going to win NJ? Not likely. But it's another leak in the dam for the Dems. One of an increasing number. Some of the soft blue states we've been talking about have not had much public polling done. And the safe blue states like NJ....no polling at all. So we really don't know much, but we can look around and make reasonable assumptions about the factors at play.
So who has momentum? (Trump)
Who is playing defense? (Democrats)
Who is playing offense? (Republicans)
What are the trends that could deliver a surprise "comfortable" victory to Harris? (none that are realistic.)
What are the trends that could deliver a surprise "comfortable" victory to Trump? (several that are becoming increasingly more realistic.)
All of those things affect assessments on the WI/MI/PA "blue wall."
Just getting harder and harder to assess high probability to Harris sweeping the blue wall, which increasingly seems to be her only pathway to victory.
That's why you see the betting markets where they are (2-1 in favor of Trump).
4th and Inches said:she had to..Adriacus Peratuun said:
Fun item: Harris spent more $ in Nebraska CD2 than she spent in 14 states.
That one electoral vote could cost her the whole thing
Now, those 14 states might be non-competitive.
yes, that tooScottS said:4th and Inches said:she had to..Adriacus Peratuun said:
Fun item: Harris spent more $ in Nebraska CD2 than she spent in 14 states.
That one electoral vote could cost her the whole thing
Now, those 14 states might be non-competitive.
But she definitely has to have Neb CD2 based on current polling to have a path
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They are non-competitive states. That isn't the point.ScottS said:4th and Inches said:she had to..Adriacus Peratuun said:
Fun item: Harris spent more $ in Nebraska CD2 than she spent in 14 states.
That one electoral vote could cost her the whole thing
Now, those 14 states might be non-competitive.
The point is the number. Spending in Nebraska CD2 outpacing Hawaii [lock D] or Alaska [lock R] is not shocking. Reaching 14 states being outspent is hugely shocking.
Rhode Island, Vermont, Idaho, Mississippi etc. type noncompetitive small states with relatively inexpensive media markets is not a huge list.
Wouldn't find 9 or 10 noteworthy. 14 is noteworthy.
MI final poll today has Trump +.4% in MIwhiterock said:That's one explanation. Not the only one......KaiBear said:whiterock said:
What's going on here?New Jersey Early In Person Vote:
— OSZ (@OpenSourceZone) October 29, 2024
🔴 144,105 (38.0%) +4,581
🔵 139,524(36.8%)
🟡 95,447 (25.2%)
Total: 379,076
Nothing
Republicans are finally just voting early.
Do I think Trump is going to win NJ? Not likely. But it's another leak in the dam for the Dems. One of an increasing number. Some of the soft blue states we've been talking about have not had much public polling done. And the safe blue states like NJ....no polling at all. So we really don't know much, but we can look around and make reasonable assumptions about the factors at play.
So who has momentum? (Trump)
Who is playing defense? (Democrats)
Who is playing offense? (Republicans)
What are the trends that could deliver a surprise "comfortable" victory to Harris? (none that are realistic.)
What are the trends that could deliver a surprise "comfortable" victory to Trump? (several that are becoming increasingly more realistic.)
All of those things affect assessments on the WI/MI/PA "blue wall."
Just getting harder and harder to assess high probability to Harris sweeping the blue wall, which increasingly seems to be her only pathway to victory.
That's why you see the betting markets where they are (2-1 in favor of Trump).
Best public poll ever for him in Michigan.
Final polling is wrapping up very positive for Trump
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4th and Inches said:yes, that tooScottS said:4th and Inches said:she had to..Adriacus Peratuun said:
Fun item: Harris spent more $ in Nebraska CD2 than she spent in 14 states.
That one electoral vote could cost her the whole thing
Now, those 14 states might be non-competitive.
But she definitely has to have Neb CD2 based on current polling to have a path
...and NH, VA, and MN.
D pollster employee [statistics person not front of shop]:
The election is coming two to three weeks too late. Day by day the election is slipping away. [paraphrase]
Wisconsin has slipped away. Pennsylvania is slipping away. Michigan is day to day, each day's projections get worse in a small amount……not huge drops but continually worse. [paraphrase]
As an aside……..one side or the other [or both] is going to be very wrong about Nebraska CD2. Ds think they are up 4 while Rs think they are up 2 to 3. [paraphrase but very close to a direct quote]
The election is coming two to three weeks too late. Day by day the election is slipping away. [paraphrase]
Wisconsin has slipped away. Pennsylvania is slipping away. Michigan is day to day, each day's projections get worse in a small amount……not huge drops but continually worse. [paraphrase]
As an aside……..one side or the other [or both] is going to be very wrong about Nebraska CD2. Ds think they are up 4 while Rs think they are up 2 to 3. [paraphrase but very close to a direct quote]
Internals from opposing campaigns are often at odds, so I'm not questioning your source.Adriacus Peratuun said:
D pollster employee [statistics person not front of shop]:
The election is coming two to three weeks too late. Day by day the election is slipping away. [paraphrase]
Wisconsin has slipped away. Pennsylvania is slipping away. Michigan is day to day, each day's projections get worse in a small amount……not huge drops but continually worse. [paraphrase]
As an aside……..one side or the other [or both] is going to be very wrong about Nebraska CD2. Ds think they are up 4 while Rs think they are up 2 to 3. [paraphrase but very close to a direct quote]
But I know that the Trump folks don't think WI is over. He's got two trips planned there and might add a third. I've posted several times over the past couple week that WI looked better than MI and a little better than PA, but they feel they still are a little behind but closing.
Both sides will be hitting WiMiPa repeatedly over next 5 days. Those actions have been scripted/planned for months.sombear said:Internals from opposing campaigns are often at odds, so I'm not questioning your source.Adriacus Peratuun said:
D pollster employee [statistics person not front of shop]:
The election is coming two to three weeks too late. Day by day the election is slipping away. [paraphrase]
Wisconsin has slipped away. Pennsylvania is slipping away. Michigan is day to day, each day's projections get worse in a small amount……not huge drops but continually worse. [paraphrase]
As an aside……..one side or the other [or both] is going to be very wrong about Nebraska CD2. Ds think they are up 4 while Rs think they are up 2 to 3. [paraphrase but very close to a direct quote]
But I know that the Trump folks don't think WI is over. He's got two trips planned there and might add a third. I've posted several times over the past couple week that WI looked better than MI and a little better than PA, but they feel they still are a little behind but closing.
I can only comment on what R math people are seeing themselves and hearing from buddies on the other side. These folks chat off the books incessantly.
They see Wisconsin at R51/D49 [or better for R] currently.
They see PA dead even but trending R……..but the early voting gap might offset that momentum…..D early voting advantage in PA is clearly best among swing states. Not simply numbers but also locations.
MI is seen as a horse with a lead stumbling to the tape while the trail horse is galloping. Trump might get defeated in MI but it will be the clock which beats him not Harris.
Nevada, Arizona, NC, and Georgia they think Trump will win each by at least 1.6
And Nebraska CD2 is "someone will be really wrong".
End Game: watch Wisconsin…….that state is the key log.
The POTUS calls Trump supporters "garbage".
MSM - Republicans "pounce" on being called garbage!
MSM - Republicans "pounce" on being called garbage!
Republicans seized on comments made by President Biden appearing to refer to Trump supporters as "garbage." https://t.co/j59zOmNx22
— CBS News (@CBSNews) October 30, 2024
Eerily similar to what I'm hearingAdriacus Peratuun said:Both sides will be hitting WiMiPa repeatedly over next 5 days. Those actions have been scripted/planned for months.sombear said:Internals from opposing campaigns are often at odds, so I'm not questioning your source.Adriacus Peratuun said:
D pollster employee [statistics person not front of shop]:
The election is coming two to three weeks too late. Day by day the election is slipping away. [paraphrase]
Wisconsin has slipped away. Pennsylvania is slipping away. Michigan is day to day, each day's projections get worse in a small amount……not huge drops but continually worse. [paraphrase]
As an aside……..one side or the other [or both] is going to be very wrong about Nebraska CD2. Ds think they are up 4 while Rs think they are up 2 to 3. [paraphrase but very close to a direct quote]
But I know that the Trump folks don't think WI is over. He's got two trips planned there and might add a third. I've posted several times over the past couple week that WI looked better than MI and a little better than PA, but they feel they still are a little behind but closing.
I can only comment on what R math people are seeing themselves and hearing from buddies on the other side. These folks chat off the books incessantly.
They see Wisconsin at R51/D49 [or better for R] currently.
They see PA dead even but trending R……..but the early voting gap might offset that momentum…..D early voting advantage in PA is clearly best among swing states. Not simply numbers but also locations.
MI is seen as a horse with a lead stumbling to the tape while the trail horse is galloping. Trump might get defeated in MI but it will be the clock which beats him not Harris.
Nevada, Arizona, NC, and Georgia they think Trump will win each by at least 1.6
And Nebraska CD2 is "someone will be really wrong".
End Game: watch Wisconsin…….that state is the key log.
Aubrey Plaza is angry at the Puerto Rico joke. When you face the righteous wrath of women, all you can do is humble yourself and promise to be better. They may not accept your apology, that’s fine. It is on you to fix it. pic.twitter.com/D58TgS7zcm
— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) October 30, 2024
wow!Redbrickbear said:Aubrey Plaza is angry at the Puerto Rico joke. When you face the righteous wrath of women, all you can do is humble yourself and promise to be better. They may not accept your apology, that’s fine. It is on you to fix it. pic.twitter.com/D58TgS7zcm
— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) October 30, 2024
That's one hell of a beta cuck!