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boognish_bear
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FLBear5630
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whiterock said:

Realitybites said:

FLBear, you forget that Americans don't form their opinions about government workers in a vacuum. We form our opinions about government workers by dealing with government workers.

When you say that 99% are pros who do their jobs very well, our day to day experience knows it is an incorrect statement.

Every dedicated public servant in the burearucracy is vastly outnumbered by a legion of squirrel killers.
very few bureaucrats are technocrats at anything other than exploring the boundaries of bureaucratic power.

it's just how the organism works. bureaucrats very, very rarely think of themselves as servants of the public. Very, very few ask themselves when they have latitude for judgement...."what is fair?"...."How would I want to be treated here." The nature of the job is to look at the law and serve the law, as far as the law allows.

That's how you get bureaucratic reinterpretations inverting law inside-out. That's how you have the plain wording of immigration statute citing "public charge" as an exclusion for entry or presence in the USA being interpreted to mean that someone on welfare benefits, food stamp benefits, unemployment benefits, etc....is not a public charge. It's how you get Title IX, a law written to carve out funding for women to have guaranteed opportunities for the same life lessons that men receive from engaging competitive sports....being used to force women to compete against biological males, having the share showers with biological males, etc....

There is no culture fix there. It is what it is. The only practical way to control it is to prune it back severely from time to time.


My experience is on the infrastructure side. Just like some in the Defense or Maritime Industry, I doubt there are people building Chinooks or operating Ports that want it to fail. The disconnect may be that I am thinking of "Bureaucrats" in the physical world, not the administrative. I have no experience with Labor or Intel, but I can tell you from 30 years of experience NOBODY at USDOT wants a bridge to fail. Engineers have licenses on the line and potential criminal charges (yes, a bridge collapses because of a screw up or oversight manslaughter charges are possible).

Now the bean counters, that is a different story. I have no love for attorneys, accountants or risk managers! My experience the issue is the Private sector, embedding on projects and sucking it dry. They play a political game and have decisions be made on stuff other than quality and budget. You gut the Fed, you will have 5 times the private sector consultants taking over. Just like Iraq...
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whiterock
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nein51 said:

Yeah maybe but there was a whole lot of actual smoke on this one.

That's what they said about Russia Collusion. (And a whole bunch of other BS).
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boognish_bear said:



Ben Domenech is a brilliant mind and an articulate essayist who also has been an ardent neverTrumper from day one and oh by the way is Mr. Meghan McCain. So ho hum…..
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FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

Realitybites said:

FLBear, you forget that Americans don't form their opinions about government workers in a vacuum. We form our opinions about government workers by dealing with government workers.

When you say that 99% are pros who do their jobs very well, our day to day experience knows it is an incorrect statement.

Every dedicated public servant in the burearucracy is vastly outnumbered by a legion of squirrel killers.
very few bureaucrats are technocrats at anything other than exploring the boundaries of bureaucratic power.

it's just how the organism works. bureaucrats very, very rarely think of themselves as servants of the public. Very, very few ask themselves when they have latitude for judgement...."what is fair?"...."How would I want to be treated here." The nature of the job is to look at the law and serve the law, as far as the law allows.

That's how you get bureaucratic reinterpretations inverting law inside-out. That's how you have the plain wording of immigration statute citing "public charge" as an exclusion for entry or presence in the USA being interpreted to mean that someone on welfare benefits, food stamp benefits, unemployment benefits, etc....is not a public charge. It's how you get Title IX, a law written to carve out funding for women to have guaranteed opportunities for the same life lessons that men receive from engaging competitive sports....being used to force women to compete against biological males, having the share showers with biological males, etc....

There is no culture fix there. It is what it is. The only practical way to control it is to prune it back severely from time to time.


My experience is on the infrastructure side. Just like some in the Defense or Maritime Industry, I doubt there are people building Chinooks or operating Ports that want it to fail. The disconnect may be that I am thinking of "Bureaucrats" in the physical world, not the administrative. I have no experience with Labor or Intel, but I can tell you from 30 years of experience NOBODY at USDOT wants a bridge to fail. Engineers have licenses on the line and potential criminal charges (yes, a bridge collapses because of a screw up or oversight manslaughter charges are possible).

Now the bean counters, that is a different story. I have no love for attorneys, accountants or risk managers! My experience the issue is the Private sector, embedding on projects and sucking it dry. They play a political game and have decisions be made on stuff other than quality and budget. You gut the Fed, you will have 5 times the private sector consultants taking over. Just like Iraq...

Nobody is complaining about DOT engineers inspecting job sites or DOA meat inspectors swabbing beef carcasses. We're talking about the swamp in Washington and more specifically the use of intel and lawfare against political opponents.

Same for CIA. Its core mission is collection abroad, so most of the anger directed at CIA is misguided. But all those signatures on that letter citing the Biden laptop as Russian disinformation was indeed an egregious abuse of, at minimum, access to classified information. Those nutjobs tried to play politics and did grievous harm to the institution by calling its objectivity into question.

We've seen waaay too many abuses of power under Democrat administrations. Time to prune branches. Time for a few perp walks. Time for a few plea agreements that involve sacrificing pensions to stay out of jail. We simply MUST instill fear into the Senior Executive Service that engaging in partisan activity is not worth the risk. There is no firewall there at the moment. Must be rebuilt.
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EatMoreSalmon
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Redbrickbear said:




Chuck Schumer walks around with crap up to his kneecaps all the time. He is part of the demagogue party more than any other party. He and Carville would make good camp roommates.
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boognish_bear said:




May their work be more consequential than the Grace Commission under Reagan.
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Anything that removes illegals from American soil. We might get lucky and have large numbers deport themselves.
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We know that Hegseth is a great pick for DoD by the insane reactions by woke crazies:

https://notthebee.com/article/check-out-the-very-sane-liberal-reactions-to-trumps-pick-for-defense-secretary
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It worked for FDR!!
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How many CIA & FBI operatives instigate the J6 kertuffle? We may never know but the number would probably surprise most people.
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Realitybites said:

boognish_bear said:


Cool story, bro.

In response, Matt Gaetz should read a leaked copy of the Epstein Client list into the record during his confirmation hearings.

It doesn't have to be 100% accurate, only as accurate as the "ethics report".

Would be "funny" if Cornyn's name were on that list…
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boognish_bear said:



The Democratic party is laughably lame

They are so insincere

If a high priced consultant tells them to use pronouns or talk about White Supremacy they do it

Then if a consultant tells them 6 months later to change it ....they do lol
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The_barBEARian
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Redbrickbear said:



The 2024 Democrat Party Platform can be distilled down to this:

We're the anti-straight, white men party.
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whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

Realitybites said:

FLBear, you forget that Americans don't form their opinions about government workers in a vacuum. We form our opinions about government workers by dealing with government workers.

When you say that 99% are pros who do their jobs very well, our day to day experience knows it is an incorrect statement.

Every dedicated public servant in the burearucracy is vastly outnumbered by a legion of squirrel killers.
very few bureaucrats are technocrats at anything other than exploring the boundaries of bureaucratic power.

it's just how the organism works. bureaucrats very, very rarely think of themselves as servants of the public. Very, very few ask themselves when they have latitude for judgement...."what is fair?"...."How would I want to be treated here." The nature of the job is to look at the law and serve the law, as far as the law allows.

That's how you get bureaucratic reinterpretations inverting law inside-out. That's how you have the plain wording of immigration statute citing "public charge" as an exclusion for entry or presence in the USA being interpreted to mean that someone on welfare benefits, food stamp benefits, unemployment benefits, etc....is not a public charge. It's how you get Title IX, a law written to carve out funding for women to have guaranteed opportunities for the same life lessons that men receive from engaging competitive sports....being used to force women to compete against biological males, having the share showers with biological males, etc....

There is no culture fix there. It is what it is. The only practical way to control it is to prune it back severely from time to time.


My experience is on the infrastructure side. Just like some in the Defense or Maritime Industry, I doubt there are people building Chinooks or operating Ports that want it to fail. The disconnect may be that I am thinking of "Bureaucrats" in the physical world, not the administrative. I have no experience with Labor or Intel, but I can tell you from 30 years of experience NOBODY at USDOT wants a bridge to fail. Engineers have licenses on the line and potential criminal charges (yes, a bridge collapses because of a screw up or oversight manslaughter charges are possible).

Now the bean counters, that is a different story. I have no love for attorneys, accountants or risk managers! My experience the issue is the Private sector, embedding on projects and sucking it dry. They play a political game and have decisions be made on stuff other than quality and budget. You gut the Fed, you will have 5 times the private sector consultants taking over. Just like Iraq...

Nobody is complaining about DOT engineers inspecting job sites or DOA meat inspectors swabbing beef carcasses. We're talking about the swamp in Washington and more specifically the use of intel and lawfare against political opponents.

Same for CIA. Its core mission is collection abroad, so most of the anger directed at CIA is misguided. But all those signatures on that letter citing the Biden laptop as Russian disinformation was indeed an egregious abuse of, at minimum, access to classified information. Those nutjobs tried to play politics and did grievous harm to the institution by calling its objectivity into question.

We've seen waaay too many abuses of power under Democrat administrations. Time to prune branches. Time for a few perp walks. Time for a few plea agreements that involve sacrificing pensions to stay out of jail. We simply MUST instill fear into the Senior Executive Service that engaging in partisan activity is not worth the risk. There is no firewall there at the moment. Must be rebuilt.
As I said, I do not have any Intel experience and can't really weigh in. I defer to you, as you were in it. I do know that when the Private Sector filled the gap firms like Black Rock and others went hogwild. It was not any better, maybe better run? But they fed at the trough just as much. Private sector is not necessarily better.
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Trump=white supramacist does not.compute

Quote:

Trump most overperformed in large metro counties, according to analyst Jed Kolko. Compared with his run against Joe Biden, Trump ran 9 points closer to Kamala Harris in such areasa bigger gain than he saw in suburbs, college towns, or military posts.

It wasn't just a few cities, either. Trump improved on his 2020 performance in cities as diverse as Chicago, Detroit, and Dallas. He won Miami-Dade County outright. He got the closest margin for a Republican in New York City in 30 years. He won a precinct in lower Manhattan; one south Philadelphia neighborhood voted for him by almost three to one.

These swings are partly a byproduct of the surprising diversity of the Trump coalition, which exit polling suggests may have included a fifth of black men and a majority of Latino men. In New York City, Trump ran up votes not just on Staten Island, but in hyper-diverse Queens and South Brooklyn.
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The absolute panic and outrage among the TDS crowd tells me these are very, very good picks by Trump.

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Crazy Leftists don't like Trumps pick for DoD:

https://notthebee.com/article/check-out-the-very-sane-liberal-reactions-to-trumps-pick-for-defense-secretary
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Jack Bauer
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This....person..Just won Delaware's only congressional seat.

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historian said:




I want Minnesota in the Union. I've got grouse & woodcock cover up there that took a lot of time to develop. It's not impossible to get dogs & guns into Canada, but it'd sure be nice not to have to cross a border.
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historian said:

We know that Hegseth is a great pick for DoD by the insane reactions by woke crazies:

https://notthebee.com/article/check-out-the-very-sane-liberal-reactions-to-trumps-pick-for-defense-secretary
any selection which does not invite howls of outrage is a poor one.
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Jack Bauer said:

This....person..Just won Delaware's only congressional seat.



Mental illness should disqualify him from serving in Congress. His misogyny and support for child abuse are also disqualifying. Naturally, this level of perversion and disconnect from reality belongs to a "Democrat".
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