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President-elect Donald Trump plans to fire the entire team that worked with special counsel Jack Smith to pursue two federal prosecutions against the former president, including career attorneys typically protected from political retribution, according to two individuals close to Trump's transition.

Trump is also planning to assemble investigative teams within the Justice Department to hunt for evidence in battleground states that fraud tainted the 2020 election, one of the people said.

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GOOD!

why would anyone be troubled by this, given the outrageous things we have seen in election fraud and lawfare?

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Ending lawfare with eternal lawfare?

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You end lawfare by inflicting as much pain as is possible so that it is deterred in the future. Heads need to roll.

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And in 2028, Democrats prosecute Republicans who prosecuted Democrats, thus inflicting as much pain as possible & sparking endless lawfare.
Smart

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Pure Oso, you listen to your fears and so you tolerate evil rather than fight it.

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Has it? Every time they lose an election they become more radicalized. At least that seems to be the case over the past 30 years.

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I assume the DOJ will behave over the next 4 years

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how about pursuing criminals regardless of party affiliation, is that okay?

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Sure, it's encouraged. For what crimes would you lock up reporters?

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I'm no attorney but I believe there are recommendations for specific crimes.

Do you consider lies about Hunter's laptop to be a crime for DOJ officials? If a member of the press "knowingly" colluded with DOJ to keep the info concealed and therefore impact the election, do you consider that to be a crime?

The press probably has plausible deniability if they just reported the info they were fed. However, if they were in on the planning with DOJ to keep the information out of the public , I think that falls under collusion and tampering.

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What crimes?

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You probably missed this, "Do you consider lies about Hunter's laptop to be a crime for DOJ officials? If a member of the press "knowingly" colluded with DOJ to keep the info concealed and therefore impact the election, do you consider that to be a crime?"

I said I'm no attorney. I asked your opinion. This is your chance to be the grand jury. Take a shot at it rather than asking me a question I already said I don't have the background to answer.

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What crimes?

Let's just hope that he's the dude you guys think he is.
You guys are too smart to not realize how complex things are accelerating, with China, Russia, Ukraine, Iran, Israel/Middle East, South China Sea, and our own cultural wars. Then the sidebar issues of tariffs, federal debt, entitlement programs, increased polarization evolving into political hatred, and the realization that too many of us really don't want to know too much.
Holding him accountable is problematic. Spending every minute trying to shove him deeper into the mud is not the answer. There is too much at stake. Holding him accountable is our duty. ( which is why I have minimized my criticism).

Trump was born in June 1946, Bush in July 1946, and Clinton in August 1946.

— Jerome Sneed Democrat (@avrilbradley23) November 26, 2024

I can't stand much more if this crap. This is what really needs to happen. 💯 pic.twitter.com/9uQJspLbj1

— Sadie Supa Doge (@SadieSupaDoge) November 22, 2024

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I can't stand much more if this crap. This is what really needs to happen. 💯 pic.twitter.com/9uQJspLbj1

— Sadie Supa Doge (@SadieSupaDoge) November 22, 2024

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Will there be a trial?

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Osodecentx said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Osodecentx said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Has it? Every time they lose an election they become more radicalized. At least that seems to be the case over the past 30 years.

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I assume the DOJ will behave over the next 4 years

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how about pursuing criminals regardless of party affiliation, is that okay?

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Sure, it's encouraged. For what crimes would you lock up reporters?

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I'm no attorney but I believe there are recommendations for specific crimes.

Do you consider lies about Hunter's laptop to be a crime for DOJ officials? If a member of the press "knowingly" colluded with DOJ to keep the info concealed and therefore impact the election, do you consider that to be a crime?

The press probably has plausible deniability if they just reported the info they were fed. However, if they were in on the planning with DOJ to keep the information out of the public , I think that falls under collusion and tampering.

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What crimes?

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You probably missed this, "Do you consider lies about Hunter's laptop to be a crime for DOJ officials? If a member of the press "knowingly" colluded with DOJ to keep the info concealed and therefore impact the election, do you consider that to be a crime?"

I said I'm no attorney. I asked your opinion. This is your chance to be the grand jury. Take a shot at it rather than asking me a question I already said I don't have the background to answer.

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What crimes?

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you tell me.

Why are you scared to answer the question and just choose to hide behind your own repeated question?

I already said I'm not an attorney but I did have the guts to throw out tampering and collusion. Now, grow a pair and answer the question.

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Has it? Every time they lose an election they become more radicalized. At least that seems to be the case over the past 30 years.

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I assume the DOJ will behave over the next 4 years

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how about pursuing criminals regardless of party affiliation, is that okay?

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Sure, it's encouraged. For what crimes would you lock up reporters?

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I'm no attorney but I believe there are recommendations for specific crimes.

Do you consider lies about Hunter's laptop to be a crime for DOJ officials? If a member of the press "knowingly" colluded with DOJ to keep the info concealed and therefore impact the election, do you consider that to be a crime?

The press probably has plausible deniability if they just reported the info they were fed. However, if they were in on the planning with DOJ to keep the information out of the public , I think that falls under collusion and tampering.

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What crimes?

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You probably missed this, "Do you consider lies about Hunter's laptop to be a crime for DOJ officials? If a member of the press "knowingly" colluded with DOJ to keep the info concealed and therefore impact the election, do you consider that to be a crime?"

I said I'm no attorney. I asked your opinion. This is your chance to be the grand jury. Take a shot at it rather than asking me a question I already said I don't have the background to answer.

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What crimes?

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you tell me.

Why are you scared to answer the question and just choose to hide behind your own repeated question?

I already said I'm not an attorney but I did have the guts to throw out tampering and collusion. Now, grow a pair and answer the question.

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Tampering with what? Colluding with whom?
You're repeating conspiracy theories.

Maybe 1 of you colleagues can help you

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It's CB primarily the greed and corruption of people in government: politicians & bureaucrats. They have lots of power & little accountability. Sure, there is greed and corruption in plenty of other places: Hollywood, the media, academia, Big Tech, Big Pharma, etc. All of these examples are dominated by the Left. Are conservatives & others also greedy & corrupt? Of course they are! It's human nature. We are all sinners & tend to be selfish. We have to work hard to be otherwise which is one reason Christian's don't always seem very different although they know better. But it's when those qualities are in government that they are most often abused and with greater damage to society.

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Government has grown by events, the Depression created a big swell. WW2 created a big swell in Govt. The 60's created a swell in Govt size. etc... Each growth cycle was to solve some problem. It was not people sitting around wondering how to add Federal jobs. Believe it or not, each of the Agencies, Depts, Programs and systems has a mission, function and area of responsibility. Look at Intel, how many do we need? Can they be consolidated without losing functionality? All for such an analysis and restructure.

All I am saying is that it can't be done in a Sharpie based on Vivek's opinion, it has to be data based and make sense. If the Fed is NOT going to do Education, than the States have to be ready to take over that role. How will money flow? If Dept of Transportation is eliminated, are the States ready to do the job? Right now, most State roads and US roads are funded through the Fed. It is MUCH MORE than just doing away with "waste" on day 1 because Elon wants a clearer path for his Companies or Vivek is sick of regulation.

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Never assume anything. With politicians in particular, we have to be vigilant. However, Trump has a popular mandate to clean up the mess created by the fascists.

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And when the Democrats win next, they will claim a "popular mandate to clean up the mess created by the fascists."

Why not just follow the law without prejudice?

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If we do that, we will have to investigate a lot of Democrats and prosecute a few.......

Just pick out the 2-3 most egregious examples of bureaucratic overreach, and make sure they at least get a perp walk. That'll send a message that they obviously have forgotten.....that they are not immune from the laws they enforce on us.

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Osodecentx said:

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historian said:

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Never assume anything. With politicians in particular, we have to be vigilant. However, Trump has a popular mandate to clean up the mess created by the fascists.

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And when the Democrats win next, they will claim a "popular mandate to clean up the mess created by the fascists."

Why not just follow the law without prejudice?

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If we do that, we will have to investigate a lot of Democrats and prosecute a few.......

Just pick out the 2-3 most egregious examples of bureaucratic overreach, and make sure they at least get a perp walk. That'll send a message that they obviously have forgotten.....that they are not immune from the laws they enforce on us.

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What crimes did Biden & Harris commit?
For what crimes will the prosecutors be prosecuted?

whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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historian said:

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Never assume anything. With politicians in particular, we have to be vigilant. However, Trump has a popular mandate to clean up the mess created by the fascists.

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And when the Democrats win next, they will claim a "popular mandate to clean up the mess created by the fascists."

Why not just follow the law without prejudice?

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If we do that, we will have to investigate a lot of Democrats and prosecute a few.......

Just pick out the 2-3 most egregious examples of bureaucratic overreach, and make sure they at least get a perp walk. That'll send a message that they obviously have forgotten.....that they are not immune from the laws they enforce on us.

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How about sticking to those that actually broke the law and can be prosecuted. That means proven in a Court of Law, not some star chamber that determines they didn't like how they used existing legal means.

You guys have a tendency to mix policy issues with legal issues. If there is evidence, charge them. Shouldn't be an issue, remember a Grand Jury will indict a Ham Sandwich. Should be no problem with all the laws supposedly broken.

Policy is Policy, that is a different animal. Pass it through Congress, GOP has 2 years and the clock starts on January 20th.

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historian said:

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It's CB primarily the greed and corruption of people in government: politicians & bureaucrats. They have lots of power & little accountability. Sure, there is greed and corruption in plenty of other places: Hollywood, the media, academia, Big Tech, Big Pharma, etc. All of these examples are dominated by the Left. Are conservatives & others also greedy & corrupt? Of course they are! It's human nature. We are all sinners & tend to be selfish. We have to work hard to be otherwise which is one reason Christian's don't always seem very different although they know better. But it's when those qualities are in government that they are most often abused and with greater damage to society.

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Government has grown by events, the Depression created a big swell. WW2 created a big swell in Govt. The 60's created a swell in Govt size. etc... Each growth cycle was to solve some problem. It was not people sitting around wondering how to add Federal jobs. Believe it or not, each of the Agencies, Depts, Programs and systems has a mission, function and area of responsibility. Look at Intel, how many do we need? Can they be consolidated without losing functionality? All for such an analysis and restructure.

All I am saying is that it can't be done in a Sharpie based on Vivek's opinion, it has to be data based and make sense. If the Fed is NOT going to do Education, than the States have to be ready to take over that role. How will money flow? If Dept of Transportation is eliminated, are the States ready to do the job? Right now, most State roads and US roads are funded through the Fed. It is MUCH MORE than just doing away with "waste" on day 1 because Elon wants a clearer path for his Companies or Vivek is sick of regulation.

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it's grown steadily over the years. Massive growth under Obama.

Tweaking margins is an efficiency exercise, not fundamental change. You have to make big cuts to make big impact. It's why demobilization is not about just dumping or storing excess equipment. It's about RIFs of guys in uniforms in big six-digit numbers. To dump cost, you have to dump people. Plain math.

Here's an example of how we can change the way we do business: When Sid Miller was elected Ag Commissioner, he discovered that the department had the resources to inspect retail gasoline pumps about once every 7 years. Which is effectively not at all. To get to annual inspections, he would either have to 7x his inspection department or......empower subcontractors to do more frequent inspections. He chose the latter. Now, gas stations pay companies who compete for the business of inspecting regulatory compliance on retail gas pumps, and the TxDoA supervises the regulators.

Look at how Tx does vehicle inspections - private businesses are the inspectors, and the State of Tx supervises the inspectors. Tried & true structure.

So much of the federal government could be done this way. There are various manifestations of it already in use. It's a template for how to drastically downsize the DOT, in particular et al..... And that's before we get to the issue of block grants to states rather than programs directly run Federal Agencies.

John Kerry: "We're on the brink of needing to declare a climate emergency, which is what we really have. And we need to get people to behave!"

WATCH: pic.twitter.com/Rg6mMUch6y

— Steve Guest (@SteveGuest) November 26, 2024

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historian said:

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It's CB primarily the greed and corruption of people in government: politicians & bureaucrats. They have lots of power & little accountability. Sure, there is greed and corruption in plenty of other places: Hollywood, the media, academia, Big Tech, Big Pharma, etc. All of these examples are dominated by the Left. Are conservatives & others also greedy & corrupt? Of course they are! It's human nature. We are all sinners & tend to be selfish. We have to work hard to be otherwise which is one reason Christian's don't always seem very different although they know better. But it's when those qualities are in government that they are most often abused and with greater damage to society.

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Government has grown by events, the Depression created a big swell. WW2 created a big swell in Govt. The 60's created a swell in Govt size. etc... Each growth cycle was to solve some problem. It was not people sitting around wondering how to add Federal jobs. Believe it or not, each of the Agencies, Depts, Programs and systems has a mission, function and area of responsibility. Look at Intel, how many do we need? Can they be consolidated without losing functionality? All for such an analysis and restructure.

All I am saying is that it can't be done in a Sharpie based on Vivek's opinion, it has to be data based and make sense. If the Fed is NOT going to do Education, than the States have to be ready to take over that role. How will money flow? If Dept of Transportation is eliminated, are the States ready to do the job? Right now, most State roads and US roads are funded through the Fed. It is MUCH MORE than just doing away with "waste" on day 1 because Elon wants a clearer path for his Companies or Vivek is sick of regulation.

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Yes, each federal agency has a function and many of them are unconstitutional. The federal govt has no legitimate role of authority in education, transportation, labor, energy, and a HIST of other areas that local by nature. Yes, the govt has the authority to regulate interstate commerce & national security responsibilities but those are limited. The interstate commerce clause is one of the key means for the explosion of federal power and the myriad abuses resulting.

Yes, reform must be done carefully & intelligently but it's essential that Big Brother be scaled down a few notches. One of the main methods that the govt created new problems (or exacerbated old ones) is through haphazard and reckless legislation. The New Deal is an excellent example: a flood of legislation in the first 100 days because they had "to do something." Maybe certain reforms were urgent but they did not need to remake our economy into a fascist-socialist mess but that's essentially what they did. The New Deal did not end the Depression. It dragged it on for over a decade creating a lot more misery while growing the govt and entrenching the Dems in power for 20 years. This resulted in many gross injustices that most people are only vaguely aware of, if at all.

Osodecentx said:

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whiterock said:

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Osodecentx said:

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historian said:

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Never assume anything. With politicians in particular, we have to be vigilant. However, Trump has a popular mandate to clean up the mess created by the fascists.

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And when the Democrats win next, they will claim a "popular mandate to clean up the mess created by the fascists."

Why not just follow the law without prejudice?

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If we do that, we will have to investigate a lot of Democrats and prosecute a few.......

Just pick out the 2-3 most egregious examples of bureaucratic overreach, and make sure they at least get a perp walk. That'll send a message that they obviously have forgotten.....that they are not immune from the laws they enforce on us.

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What crimes did Biden & Harris commit?
For what crimes will the prosecutors be prosecuted?

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Biden & Harris ard the greatest coyotes in the history of illegal immigration. Biden's criminal family cartel are guilty of all kinds of bribery, extortion, fraud, etc. Biden is the "big guy" in all the foreign policy influence peddling (arguably treason). Hunter's laptop, stealing the 2020 election, law fare against Trump & J6ers involved lots of fraud & other abuses, civil rights abuses, etc. ad nauseum. Also, cover ups of all the above. And so much more.

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"We had meetings [Biden officials] this spring that were the most alarming meetings I've ever been in. Where they were taking us through their plans, and it was - basically just full government - full government control - like this sort of thing, there will be a small number of large companies that will be completely regulated and controlled by the government, they told us. They said don't even start startups - there's just no way that they can succeed - there's no way that we're going to permit that to happen."

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Marc Andreessen, the billionaire investor and co-founder of the influential Silicon Valley venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz

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Back to the podcast, Rogan asked Andreessen: "When you leave a meeting like that, what do you do?"

Andreessen responded: "You endorse Donald Trump."

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The government workforce has been exposed:

• Half never returned to the office after COVID.
• Some show up just one day a month.
• Yet, they still collect full DC-level salaries. pic.twitter.com/MCzNZJIC6x

— Ben Averbook (@benaverbook) November 26, 2024

They’ve uncovered a new way to destroy companies:

30 tech founders were secretly debanked.

No warning. No explanation. No appeals.

Pure, silent government power. pic.twitter.com/iKPn9XmI82

— Ben Averbook (@benaverbook) November 26, 2024

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FLBear5630 said:

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It's CB primarily the greed and corruption of people in government: politicians & bureaucrats. They have lots of power & little accountability. Sure, there is greed and corruption in plenty of other places: Hollywood, the media, academia, Big Tech, Big Pharma, etc. All of these examples are dominated by the Left. Are conservatives & others also greedy & corrupt? Of course they are! It's human nature. We are all sinners & tend to be selfish. We have to work hard to be otherwise which is one reason Christian's don't always seem very different although they know better. But it's when those qualities are in government that they are most often abused and with greater damage to society.

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Government has grown by events, the Depression created a big swell. WW2 created a big swell in Govt. The 60's created a swell in Govt size. etc... Each growth cycle was to solve some problem. It was not people sitting around wondering how to add Federal jobs. Believe it or not, each of the Agencies, Depts, Programs and systems has a mission, function and area of responsibility. Look at Intel, how many do we need? Can they be consolidated without losing functionality? All for such an analysis and restructure.

All I am saying is that it can't be done in a Sharpie based on Vivek's opinion, it has to be data based and make sense. If the Fed is NOT going to do Education, than the States have to be ready to take over that role. How will money flow? If Dept of Transportation is eliminated, are the States ready to do the job? Right now, most State roads and US roads are funded through the Fed. It is MUCH MORE than just doing away with "waste" on day 1 because Elon wants a clearer path for his Companies or Vivek is sick of regulation.

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it's grown steadily over the years. Massive growth under Obama.

Tweaking margins is an efficiency exercise, not fundamental change. You have to make big cuts to make big impact. It's why demobilization is not about just dumping or storing excess equipment. It's about RIFs of guys in uniforms in big six-digit numbers. To dump cost, you have to dump people. Plain math.

Here's an example of how we can change the way we do business: When Sid Miller was elected Ag Commissioner, he discovered that the department had the resources to inspect retail gasoline pumps about once every 7 years. Which is effectively not at all. To get to annual inspections, he would either have to 7x his inspection department or......empower subcontractors to do more frequent inspections. He chose the latter. Now, gas stations pay companies who compete for the business of inspecting regulatory compliance on retail gas pumps, and the TxDoA supervises the regulators.

Look at how Tx does vehicle inspections - private businesses are the inspectors, and the State of Tx supervises the inspectors. Tried & true structure.

So much of the federal government could be done this way. There are various manifestations of it already in use. It's a template for how to drastically downsize the DOT, in particular et al..... And that's before we get to the issue of block grants to states rather than programs directly run Federal Agencies.

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I do not disagree, we are talking the "how". There are realities of those cuts that are easy to be dismissed by two Billionaires whose lives will not change one bit. This is a bit of a joke to Vivek, at least that is how he comes across. But these decisions are going to impact thousands, if not millions, of people. People doing nothing but just trying to live their lives. The DOE middle manager is not some malicious, evil millionaire that is trying to carry out Obama's agenda. It is an education professional doing their job, probably as diligent as you do yours. The States that are going to have take on those responsibilities are about to be rocked with exactly the GOP is complaining about, unfunded mandates. The States will get the education responsibility, but the money is cut. Who pays? How do they afford it? Can your school district just cut all Federal monies s and increase performance?

She sounds like me after 5 tequila shots in the Ft Worth Stockyards explaining the history of Texas A&M to someone from Michigan. https://t.co/J3VemXBQh5

— Texas Darlin' 🎀 (@TexitDarling) November 27, 2024

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John Kerry: "We're on the brink of needing to declare a climate emergency, which is what we really have. And we need to get people to behave!"

WATCH: pic.twitter.com/Rg6mMUch6y

— Steve Guest (@SteveGuest) November 26, 2024

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nobody takes you serious ketchup man

Kamala Harris's campaign raised nearly $1.5 billion. Meanwhile, their media operatives spent months ridiculing Turning Point for our GOTV operation.

Now, after they lost, Kamala's team went on Pod Save America, and their excuse is that we were so effective at GOTV that what we… pic.twitter.com/dxLtIqZEKE

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) November 27, 2024

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She sounds like me after 5 tequila shots in the Ft Worth Stockyards explaining the history of Texas A&M to someone from Michigan. https://t.co/J3VemXBQh5

— Texas Darlin' 🎀 (@TexitDarling) November 27, 2024

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The gal looks like she is in the middle of a two week bender.

Totally trashed.

How can anyone really believe this basket case would have been an effective president ?

😢 Who's crying now? 🎶
🎬 w/@BrandieWithABee pic.twitter.com/jSWMZvZ3Sm

— miguelifornia (@miguelifornia) November 13, 2024

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John Kerry: "We're on the brink of needing to declare a climate emergency, which is what we really have. And we need to get people to behave!"

WATCH: pic.twitter.com/Rg6mMUch6y

— Steve Guest (@SteveGuest) November 26, 2024

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nobody takes you serious ketchup man

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The funny thing, he's not even the ketchup man, his wife is the ketchup man. Kerry is just along for the ride on the coattails

Jacques Strap said:

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Kamala Harris's campaign raised nearly $1.5 billion. Meanwhile, their media operatives spent months ridiculing Turning Point for our GOTV operation.

Now, after they lost, Kamala's team went on Pod Save America, and their excuse is that we were so effective at GOTV that what we… pic.twitter.com/dxLtIqZEKE

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) November 27, 2024

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The staffers and such are trying to salvage what's left of the careers, which isn't much.

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She sounds like me after 5 tequila shots in the Ft Worth Stockyards explaining the history of Texas A&M to someone from Michigan. https://t.co/J3VemXBQh5

— Texas Darlin' 🎀 (@TexitDarling) November 27, 2024

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The gal looks like she is in the middle of a two week bender.

Totally trashed.

Who can anyone really believe this basket case would have been an effective president ?

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She couldn't manage a campaign. Ridiculous that some think she could manage a country.

pic.twitter.com/bJW9ESn6Zu

— Donald J. Trump Posts From His Truth Social (@TrumpDailyPosts) November 28, 2024

John Kerry is a gold digger married to a gold digger!

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KaiBear said:

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Jacques Strap said:

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She sounds like me after 5 tequila shots in the Ft Worth Stockyards explaining the history of Texas A&M to someone from Michigan. https://t.co/J3VemXBQh5

— Texas Darlin' 🎀 (@TexitDarling) November 27, 2024

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The gal looks like she is in the middle of a two week bender.

Totally trashed.

Who can anyone really believe this basket case would have been an effective president ?

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She couldn't manage a campaign. Ridiculous that some think she could manage a country.

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I hate to state the obvious: Kamala cannot manage anything. She's a prostitute who has not demonstrated any real world skills that can be put on public display.

A modern day Jezebel but probably not as clever.

FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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historian said:

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It's CB primarily the greed and corruption of people in government: politicians & bureaucrats. They have lots of power & little accountability. Sure, there is greed and corruption in plenty of other places: Hollywood, the media, academia, Big Tech, Big Pharma, etc. All of these examples are dominated by the Left. Are conservatives & others also greedy & corrupt? Of course they are! It's human nature. We are all sinners & tend to be selfish. We have to work hard to be otherwise which is one reason Christian's don't always seem very different although they know better. But it's when those qualities are in government that they are most often abused and with greater damage to society.

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Government has grown by events, the Depression created a big swell. WW2 created a big swell in Govt. The 60's created a swell in Govt size. etc... Each growth cycle was to solve some problem. It was not people sitting around wondering how to add Federal jobs. Believe it or not, each of the Agencies, Depts, Programs and systems has a mission, function and area of responsibility. Look at Intel, how many do we need? Can they be consolidated without losing functionality? All for such an analysis and restructure.

All I am saying is that it can't be done in a Sharpie based on Vivek's opinion, it has to be data based and make sense. If the Fed is NOT going to do Education, than the States have to be ready to take over that role. How will money flow? If Dept of Transportation is eliminated, are the States ready to do the job? Right now, most State roads and US roads are funded through the Fed. It is MUCH MORE than just doing away with "waste" on day 1 because Elon wants a clearer path for his Companies or Vivek is sick of regulation.

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it's grown steadily over the years. Massive growth under Obama.

Tweaking margins is an efficiency exercise, not fundamental change. You have to make big cuts to make big impact. It's why demobilization is not about just dumping or storing excess equipment. It's about RIFs of guys in uniforms in big six-digit numbers. To dump cost, you have to dump people. Plain math.

Here's an example of how we can change the way we do business: When Sid Miller was elected Ag Commissioner, he discovered that the department had the resources to inspect retail gasoline pumps about once every 7 years. Which is effectively not at all. To get to annual inspections, he would either have to 7x his inspection department or......empower subcontractors to do more frequent inspections. He chose the latter. Now, gas stations pay companies who compete for the business of inspecting regulatory compliance on retail gas pumps, and the TxDoA supervises the regulators.

Look at how Tx does vehicle inspections - private businesses are the inspectors, and the State of Tx supervises the inspectors. Tried & true structure.

So much of the federal government could be done this way. There are various manifestations of it already in use. It's a template for how to drastically downsize the DOT, in particular et al..... And that's before we get to the issue of block grants to states rather than programs directly run Federal Agencies.

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I do not disagree, we are talking the "how". There are realities of those cuts that are easy to be dismissed by two Billionaires whose lives will not change one bit. This is a bit of a joke to Vivek, at least that is how he comes across. But these decisions are going to impact thousands, if not millions, of people. People doing nothing but just trying to live their lives. The DOE middle manager is not some malicious, evil millionaire that is trying to carry out Obama's agenda. It is an education professional doing their job, probably as diligent as you do yours. The States that are going to have take on those responsibilities are about to be rocked with exactly the GOP is complaining about, unfunded mandates. The States will get the education responsibility, but the money is cut. Who pays? How do they afford it? Can your school district just cut all Federal monies s and increase performance?

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Intentions of the DOE manager are not relevant. Neither is his/her performance. What's critical is to ask hard questions about the mission, about the amount we spend on the DOE vs the outcomes. And there is absolutely no data which illustrates we are getting an indispensible benefit from the DOE. Better to just block grant aid to the states, who are actually doing the educating, and save all the overhead in WDC.

DOT is a more complicated example. No question there is state interest in good transportation networks, as they are central to economic growth and national security. But are we better off with a stand-alone DOT? Or would we be better off with Commerce handling the private sector issues and DOD handling the national security issues? I'm not arguing for either option. Just pointing out that is the way you have look at it, big picture, then restructure as needed. I doubt DOT goes away. There has to be an administrative structure for processes to balance national security vs private sector infrastructure needs, so if you do away with DOT, you'll still have to have a Czar or bureau or something to work out those frictions.

The USG has something like 450 bureaus. And we add a couple each year. If we don't go after that monster with a hatchet and a chainsaw, then nothing will change. And the American people are desperate for change.

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