Trump Indictment & Arrest

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Doc Holliday
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Supposedly he's going to be indicted and arrested next week.



RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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If this truly happens, we will officially be a Third World Country. I don't see how this could possibly happen with the Chinese payouts to the Biden family coming to light.

This is easily the most corrupt administration in my 59 years of life. No other President is even close. All of this makes Richard Nixon look like a boy scout.
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

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Wrecks Quan Dough
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Get rid of the federal police state.
Sam Lowry
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

This is easily the most corrupt administration in my 59 years of life.
The Alvin Bragg administration?
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

This is easily the most corrupt administration in my 59 years of life.
The Alvin Bragg administration?
The Merrick Garland Administration. Once Trump is taken out, we're next!
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

-- Barack Obama
OsoCoreyell
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This is a win-win for the dems - 1) they get to arrest Trump, 2) Trump gets the nomination because of it.
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So a porn star alledgedly extorted money from President Trump and we are arresting Trump for paying it instead of the porn star for extorsion.. sounds right.

I could be totally wrong on this cause I dont care that much..
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Porteroso
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People think the guy is just above the law. I question the timing, but does this guy get to live above the law his whole life? You know he will run for President every cycle.

We will see what happens. Great scare tactic if it ends up being false.
Mothra
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For purely selfish reasons, I'm hoping they arrest him and parade him in front of the cameras for the world to see. Why?

1. It will look like the political witch hunt it is. The reported charges Bragg is considering bringing would normally be a misdemeanor. It's a huge stretch by the DA's office based on what I've read to try and turn this into a felony. So clearly this will be viewed as a political witch hunt. And of course it is.

2. It will hurt Trump's chances of getting the nom, IMO. It allows the prosecution to bring forth overwhelming evidence he had an affair with Daniels while his own wife was pregnant. If Trump doesn't come forward and agree to testify at trial, he will look like he's hiding something. If he does come forward, he faces further felony charges for perjury. This opens the door wide open for his challengers.
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I do not understand the charges. Did he fraudulently pull the money from his business to pay the extortion demands?
Doc Holliday
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Porteroso said:

People think the guy is just above the law. I question the timing, but does this guy get to live above the law his whole life? You know he will run for President every cycle.

We will see what happens. Great scare tactic if it ends up being false.
Alvin Bragg doesn't like to arrest and hold violent criminals to justice…but he'll go after Trump.

In the past week Biden's have been undeniably exposed in criminality and nobody gives a *****

You ok with this level of hypocrisy?
Osodecentx
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OsoCoreyell said:

This is a win-win for the dems - 1) they get to arrest Trump, 2) Trump gets the nomination because of it.
Bingo
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Mothra said:

For purely selfish reasons, I'm hoping they arrest him and parade him in front of the cameras for the world to see. Why?

1. It will look like the political witch hunt it is. The reported charges Bragg is considering bringing would normally be a misdemeanor. It's a huge stretch by the DA's office based on what I've read to try and turn this into a felony. So clearly this will be viewed as a political witch hunt. And of course it is.

2. It will hurt Trump's chances of getting the nom, IMO. It allows the prosecution to bring forth overwhelming evidence he had an affair with Daniels while his own wife was pregnant. If Trump doesn't come forward and agree to testify at trial, he will look like he's hiding something. If he does come forward, he faces further felony charges for perjury. This opens the door wide open for his challengers.
1. It is a political stunt. I think it is a misdemeanor in NY.

2. It will help Trump get the nomination, but will hurt him more in the general election. The trial won't happen for a long time.
Look at the sycophants on this board. They will cling more avidly to their Dear Leader.
Osodecentx
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Roll call: who will answer Trump's call to protest?

Trump Says He Expects to Be Arrested Next Week
Former president Donald Trump said Saturday morning on social media that he expects to be arrested next week. He called for protests to take place as a result.
The move comes as New York prosecutors appear to be close to indicting Trump in connection with a hush-money payment made to porn actress Stormy Daniels. Trump's former personal attorney and "fixer" Michael Cohen, who made the payment on Trump's behalf, testified to the grand jury Monday. Daniels met with prosecutors Wednesday, but she did not testify in front of the grand jury herself.
"[Illegal leaks from the Manhattan DA's office] indicate that, with no crime being able to be proven, & based on an old & fully debunked (by numerous other prosecutors!) fairytale, the far & away leading Republican candidate & former president of the United States of America, will be arrested on Tuesday of next week," explained Trump in all caps on Truth Social.
The former president also called for protests to take place "to take our nation back!"
Trump has repeatedly called the New York investigation a "witch hunt."
According to CNN, the former president is expected to present himself in Manhattan following the formal charges and has expressed interest in making a speech after.
Some of Trump's advisers have urged him privately not to call for protests, CNN reported. Trump is already under scrutiny for his behavior in connection with the 2020 election. His advisers are concerned about the optics of a Manhattan protest considering the attack on the Capitol on January 6, 2021.
According to the Associated Press, law enforcement officials in New York are already making security preparations for the possibility that Trump could be indicted and appear in a Manhattan courtroom.
The $130,000 payment in question was made to Daniels in the final days of the 2016 presidential election by Cohen, who in turn was reimbursed by Trump. Daniels claimed she had a sexual affair with the former president he wanted to keep secret.
Prosecutors have focused on whether Trump falsified internal business records to hide the reimbursement from voters, which would be a misdemeanor under New York law. This offense could be elevated to a felony if done to commit or conceal a second crime, in this case a potential violation of campaign finance laws. Prosecutors could argue that the hush-money payment effectively became an illegal donation to Trump's campaign under the theory that his candidacy benefited from Daniels' silence.
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/trump-says-he-expects-to-be-arrested-calls-for-protests/
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Porteroso said:

People think the guy is just above the law. I question the timing, but does this guy get to live above the law his whole life? You know he will run for President every cycle.

We will see what happens. Great scare tactic if it ends up being false.
Agree completely on Trump but you've cast your descriptive net too narrowly. Bidens fit in here also, along with a huge bevy of elected and appointed officials and civil service employees. The GOP needs to take care of Trump on their own. Probably cause him to run as an Independent but I don't think he can wreck an election the way Ross Perot did.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

This is easily the most corrupt administration in my 59 years of life.
The Alvin Bragg administration?
The Merrick Garland Administration. Once Trump is taken out, we're next!
I don't know about that, but for once I agree with you about the charges. They shouldn't arrest him while he's a candidate unless it's something extremely urgent, which this is not. It shouldn't even be charged as a felony IMO.
Osodecentx
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Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

This is easily the most corrupt administration in my 59 years of life.
The Alvin Bragg administration?
The Merrick Garland Administration. Once Trump is taken out, we're next!
I don't know about that, but for once I agree with you about the charges. They shouldn't arrest him while he's a candidate unless it's something extremely urgent, which this is not. It shouldn't even be charged as a felony IMO.
I think it is bad business to arrest former presidents.

In Trump's case, it should be the voters that take him out in an electoral process, not the legal system. I believe the indictment will make him stronger in the primary, a result Democrats want.
Osodecentx
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Peaceful, of course.

Trump calls for protests of what he claims is his imminent arrest

But advisers to the former president said they have no specific knowledge of the timing of an indictment in the Manhattan case
Mitch Blood Green
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Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

This is easily the most corrupt administration in my 59 years of life.
The Alvin Bragg administration?
The Merrick Garland Administration. Once Trump is taken out, we're next!
I don't know about that, but for once I agree with you about the charges. They shouldn't arrest him while he's a candidate unless it's something extremely urgent, which this is not. It shouldn't even be charged as a felony IMO.


So, should I be allowed to commit crimes then announce my run for office to avoid charges?

We all saw the call to Georgia.
We see the payment to Stormy Daniels.
We know he uses books he shares with the banks and books he shares with the IRS.
And we see Kushner get billions from the Saudis.

Who is worthy of prosecution?
Sam Lowry
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

This is easily the most corrupt administration in my 59 years of life.
The Alvin Bragg administration?
The Merrick Garland Administration. Once Trump is taken out, we're next!
I don't know about that, but for once I agree with you about the charges. They shouldn't arrest him while he's a candidate unless it's something extremely urgent, which this is not. It shouldn't even be charged as a felony IMO.


So, should I be allowed to commit crimes then announce my run for office to avoid charges?

We all saw the call to Georgia.
We see the payment to Stormy Daniels.
We know he uses books he shares with the banks and books he shares with the IRS.
And we see Kushner get billions from the Saudis.

Who is worthy of prosecution?
Not necessarily, but if you're a serious candidate and the charge is as flimsy as this one, I don't think it should be prosecuted. They're stretching to make it a felony because the statute of limitations has likely run out on the misdemeanor. If the crime being concealed is a campaign finance violation, it's highly questionable whether they can prove it. If not, they have nothing. I read that the DA has already dropped the case once and been pressured into reopening it, so that makes it look all the more political.

ETA: Now the Georgia thing, that's a tougher call.
Mitch Blood Green
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Sam Lowry said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

This is easily the most corrupt administration in my 59 years of life.
The Alvin Bragg administration?
The Merrick Garland Administration. Once Trump is taken out, we're next!
I don't know about that, but for once I agree with you about the charges. They shouldn't arrest him while he's a candidate unless it's something extremely urgent, which this is not. It shouldn't even be charged as a felony IMO.


So, should I be allowed to commit crimes then announce my run for office to avoid charges?

We all saw the call to Georgia.
We see the payment to Stormy Daniels.
We know he uses books he shares with the banks and books he shares with the IRS.
And we see Kushner get billions from the Saudis.

Who is worthy of prosecution?
Not necessarily, but if you're a serious candidate and the charge is as flimsy as this one, I don't think it should be prosecuted. They're stretching to make it a felony because the statute of limitations has likely run out on the misdemeanor. If the crime being concealed is a campaign finance violation, it's highly questionable whether they can prove it. If not, they have nothing. I read that the DA has already dropped the case once and been pressured into reopening it, so that makes it look all the more political.

ETA: Now the Georgia thing, that's a tougher call.

The time gets stretched because he was in the White House and using delay tactics.

If he's not guilty, he more than any of us will get off.

I don't agree that this is weak. Cohen did time as part of this same crime.

Texas gave Crystal Mason 5 years for a provisional ballet. Law and Order election integrity types (I'm sure) will push for this.
Porteroso
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Doc Holliday said:

Porteroso said:

People think the guy is just above the law. I question the timing, but does this guy get to live above the law his whole life? You know he will run for President every cycle.

We will see what happens. Great scare tactic if it ends up being false.
Alvin Bragg doesn't like to arrest and hold violent criminals to justice…but he'll go after Trump.

In the past week Biden's have been undeniably exposed in criminality and nobody gives a *****

You ok with this level of hypocrisy?

Of course not, but the stupidity of 1 politician doesn't mean we all throw our hands up and forget the rule of law.
Doc Holliday
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Porteroso said:

Doc Holliday said:

Porteroso said:

People think the guy is just above the law. I question the timing, but does this guy get to live above the law his whole life? You know he will run for President every cycle.

We will see what happens. Great scare tactic if it ends up being false.
Alvin Bragg doesn't like to arrest and hold violent criminals to justice…but he'll go after Trump.

In the past week Biden's have been undeniably exposed in criminality and nobody gives a *****

You ok with this level of hypocrisy?

Of course not, but the stupidity of 1 politician doesn't mean we all throw our hands up and forget the rule of law.
It appears we just go after Trump and everyone else is off limits.
Sam Lowry
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

This is easily the most corrupt administration in my 59 years of life.
The Alvin Bragg administration?
The Merrick Garland Administration. Once Trump is taken out, we're next!
I don't know about that, but for once I agree with you about the charges. They shouldn't arrest him while he's a candidate unless it's something extremely urgent, which this is not. It shouldn't even be charged as a felony IMO.


So, should I be allowed to commit crimes then announce my run for office to avoid charges?

We all saw the call to Georgia.
We see the payment to Stormy Daniels.
We know he uses books he shares with the banks and books he shares with the IRS.
And we see Kushner get billions from the Saudis.

Who is worthy of prosecution?
Not necessarily, but if you're a serious candidate and the charge is as flimsy as this one, I don't think it should be prosecuted. They're stretching to make it a felony because the statute of limitations has likely run out on the misdemeanor. If the crime being concealed is a campaign finance violation, it's highly questionable whether they can prove it. If not, they have nothing. I read that the DA has already dropped the case once and been pressured into reopening it, so that makes it look all the more political.

ETA: Now the Georgia thing, that's a tougher call.

The time gets stretched because he was in the White House and using delay tactics.

If he's not guilty, he more than any of us will get off.

I don't agree that this is weak. Cohen did time as part of this same crime.

Texas gave Crystal Mason 5 years for a provisional ballet. Law and Order election integrity types (I'm sure) will push for this.
Cohen took a deal, but I don't think that settles the uncertainty about the meaning of the campaign finance law. I would argue there was no violation.

I'm less concerned about whether Trump is acquitted and more concerned about the damage this does to the body politic (and Trump has already done a lot of damage himself).
Mitch Blood Green
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Sam Lowry said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

This is easily the most corrupt administration in my 59 years of life.
The Alvin Bragg administration?
The Merrick Garland Administration. Once Trump is taken out, we're next!
I don't know about that, but for once I agree with you about the charges. They shouldn't arrest him while he's a candidate unless it's something extremely urgent, which this is not. It shouldn't even be charged as a felony IMO.


So, should I be allowed to commit crimes then announce my run for office to avoid charges?

We all saw the call to Georgia.
We see the payment to Stormy Daniels.
We know he uses books he shares with the banks and books he shares with the IRS.
And we see Kushner get billions from the Saudis.

Who is worthy of prosecution?
Not necessarily, but if you're a serious candidate and the charge is as flimsy as this one, I don't think it should be prosecuted. They're stretching to make it a felony because the statute of limitations has likely run out on the misdemeanor. If the crime being concealed is a campaign finance violation, it's highly questionable whether they can prove it. If not, they have nothing. I read that the DA has already dropped the case once and been pressured into reopening it, so that makes it look all the more political.

ETA: Now the Georgia thing, that's a tougher call.

The time gets stretched because he was in the White House and using delay tactics.

If he's not guilty, he more than any of us will get off.

I don't agree that this is weak. Cohen did time as part of this same crime.

Texas gave Crystal Mason 5 years for a provisional ballet. Law and Order election integrity types (I'm sure) will push for this.
Cohen took a deal, but I don't think that settles the uncertainty about the meaning of the campaign finance law. I would argue there was no violation.

I'm less concerned about whether Trump is acquitted and more concerned about the damage this does to the body politic (and Trump has already done a lot of damage himself).


Your concerns are legitimate. I'm not sure doing nothing or doing something changes it either way.

The Trump supporters are going to be furious. Still, that shouldn't be the consideration. Is there a crime? Can it be proven?
Wrecks Quan Dough
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Mitch Blood Green said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Sam Lowry said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

This is easily the most corrupt administration in my 59 years of life.
The Alvin Bragg administration?
The Merrick Garland Administration. Once Trump is taken out, we're next!
I don't know about that, but for once I agree with you about the charges. They shouldn't arrest him while he's a candidate unless it's something extremely urgent, which this is not. It shouldn't even be charged as a felony IMO.


So, should I be allowed to commit crimes then announce my run for office to avoid charges?

We all saw the call to Georgia.
We see the payment to Stormy Daniels.
We know he uses books he shares with the banks and books he shares with the IRS.
And we see Kushner get billions from the Saudis.

Who is worthy of prosecution?
Not necessarily, but if you're a serious candidate and the charge is as flimsy as this one, I don't think it should be prosecuted. They're stretching to make it a felony because the statute of limitations has likely run out on the misdemeanor. If the crime being concealed is a campaign finance violation, it's highly questionable whether they can prove it. If not, they have nothing. I read that the DA has already dropped the case once and been pressured into reopening it, so that makes it look all the more political.

ETA: Now the Georgia thing, that's a tougher call.

The time gets stretched because he was in the White House and using delay tactics.

If he's not guilty, he more than any of us will get off.

I don't agree that this is weak. Cohen did time as part of this same crime.

Texas gave Crystal Mason 5 years for a provisional ballet. Law and Order election integrity types (I'm sure) will push for this.
Cohen took a deal, but I don't think that settles the uncertainty about the meaning of the campaign finance law. I would argue there was no violation.

I'm less concerned about whether Trump is acquitted and more concerned about the damage this does to the body politic (and Trump has already done a lot of damage himself).


Your concerns are legitimate. I'm not sure doing nothing or doing something changes it either way.

The Trump supporters are going to be furious. Still, that shouldn't be the consideration. Is there a crime? Can it be proven?


Just like the Russian tee tee story. You got him now.
C. Jordan
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Doc Holliday said:

Supposedly he's going to be indicted and arrested next week.




Supposedly is right.

Interestingly, his campaign has said he's received no info this is going happen.

It's just another attempt to stir the national conversation to himself and to stir his base and keep it loyal.
Oldbear83
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"Who is worthy of prosecution?"

Hunter Biden and his 'Big Guy' dad.

Oh, you really meant to demand that 'people you don't like' be the only ones arrested.

Just ignore that old 'Rule of Law' concept, and fall back on the Jacobite solution:

"J'Accuse!!"
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JXL
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It's a good thing this isn't going to set a precedent of going after the party out of power with criminal prosecutions or anything like that.
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C. Jordan said:

Doc Holliday said:

Supposedly he's going to be indicted and arrested next week.




Supposedly is right.

Interestingly, his campaign has said he's received no info this is going happen.

It's just another attempt to stir the national conversation to himself and to stir his base and keep it loyal.


Not DOJ, NYC DA. This is going to get thrown out quickly. Big mistake by Bragg. Not wrong lane, wrong highway!
Doc Holliday
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C. Jordan said:

Doc Holliday said:

Supposedly he's going to be indicted and arrested next week.




Supposedly is right.

Interestingly, his campaign has said he's received no info this is going happen.

It's just another attempt to stir the national conversation to himself and to stir his base and keep it loyal.
It could be total bs. Democrats are very giddy about it though.

Gotta hand it to them, they actually make moves to decimate their opposition unlike the GOP.
Sam Lowry
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Doc Holliday said:

C. Jordan said:

Doc Holliday said:

Supposedly he's going to be indicted and arrested next week.




Supposedly is right.

Interestingly, his campaign has said he's received no info this is going happen.

It's just another attempt to stir the national conversation to himself and to stir his base and keep it loyal.
It could be total bs. Democrats are very giddy about it though.

Gotta hand it to them, they actually make moves to decimate their opposition unlike the GOP.
In all fairness, the GOP already has a full time job decimating the GOP.
Doc Holliday
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Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

C. Jordan said:

Doc Holliday said:

Supposedly he's going to be indicted and arrested next week.




Supposedly is right.

Interestingly, his campaign has said he's received no info this is going happen.

It's just another attempt to stir the national conversation to himself and to stir his base and keep it loyal.
It could be total bs. Democrats are very giddy about it though.

Gotta hand it to them, they actually make moves to decimate their opposition unlike the GOP.
In all fairness, the GOP already has a full time job decimating the GOP.
The reason Trump won to begin with is because neocons/GOP went along with fiscally irresponsible and culturally ridiculous objectives of Democrats that GOP voters can't stand.

He came in full throttle against that stuff and had the balls to say things voters were thinking.

He's not the right guy to manage the offense against establishment politics, but being on the offensive against establishment politics is the right thing to do.
Oldbear83
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Chatted with my wife about this one.

She put it like this:

"I hate the guy, but he did the job he said he would do, and I will vote for him again"

She has zero interest in anyone else. Hates Democrats and does not trust Establishment GOP.

From what I hear, she represents tens of millions of voters.

Doesn't mean you should support Trump, but ignoring his supporters (and that group does not include me) is how you lose.
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