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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Totally agree. Abbott is on thin ice. I can see other results with a different result the will have some going bat**** crazy, e.g. pardoning BLM rioters

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Rioters being bailed out, as Kamala Harris helped raise $35,000,000 to do, does not equate to someone being forced to defend themselves from an armed mob then being prosecuted for that act of self defense. Not even if the guy dared to disagree with BLM in online posts. Not even if the guy is white. If there was some actual damning evidence that proves this guy went hunting for blm rioters, why have they not bothered to show it? You know why. It doesn't exist. This is a political hit job on self defense and the serviceman who defended himself must be sacrificed to make that happen.

Wangchung said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Totally agree. Abbott is on thin ice. I can see other results with a different result the will have some going bat**** crazy, e.g. pardoning BLM rioters

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Rioters being bailed out, as Kamala Harris helped raise $35,000,000 to do, does not equate to someone being forced to defend themselves from an armed mob then being prosecuted for that act of self defense. Not even if the guy dared to disagree with BLM in online posts. Not even if the guy is white. If there was some actual damning evidence that proves this guy went hunting for blm rioters, why have they not bothered to show it? You know why. It doesn't exist. This is a political hit job on self defense and the serviceman who defended himself must be sacrificed to make that happen.

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Defendant said he was going hunting on Facebook. = intent
Saw the mob and drove into instead of retreating. If he had not driven into the mob (he had a chance to turn away), he would not have had the confrontation that led to a killing.
From this distance, there appears to be enough evidence to reach a guilty verdict.

Abbott seems to be influenced more by a Fox News personality instead of his legal training.

Wangchung said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Totally agree. Abbott is on thin ice. I can see other results with a different result the will have some going bat**** crazy, e.g. pardoning BLM rioters

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Rioters being bailed out, as Kamala Harris helped raise $35,000,000 to do, does not equate to someone being forced to defend themselves from an armed mob then being prosecuted for that act of self defense. Not even if the guy dared to disagree with BLM in online posts. Not even if the guy is white. If there was some actual damning evidence that proves this guy went hunting for blm rioters, why have they not bothered to show it? You know why. It doesn't exist. This is a political hit job on self defense and the serviceman who defended himself must be sacrificed to make that happen.

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Because there is none....they just showed the jurors that he posted anti-BLM stuff on his social media.

No actual proof he went looking to hurt anyone that night. He was just driving for Uber trying to make some extra cash to supplement his army pay.

He was convicted because they knew he was not part of their tribe...he was a MAGA type bad guy with non-politically correct views.

But again I keep telling people who are even moderate to STOP posting things to social media.

It will be used against you in the future.

Liberals and Leftists can say what they want....but moderates and conservatives have to understand that in the modern USA what they say or think will be used against them.

Its why I do my political talking here...somewhat protected by an anonymous screen name...and not on Facebook.

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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Yep, on the fence with this one. He had his day in court. He can appeal.

With that being said, the aggressive act of a mob trying to hinder movement, vandalizing a car, threatening the occupants by pounding on the windows and such, should be sufficient evidence that your life is threatened and deadly force is justified.

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Mothra said:

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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Yep, on the fence with this one. He had his day in court. He can appeal.

With that being said, the aggressive act of a mob trying to hinder movement, vandalizing a car, threatening the occupants by pounding on the windows and such, should be sufficient evidence that your life is threatened and deadly force is justified.

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I can see that. So did the jury

Osodecentx said:

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Wangchung said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Totally agree. Abbott is on thin ice. I can see other results with a different result the will have some going bat**** crazy, e.g. pardoning BLM rioters

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Rioters being bailed out, as Kamala Harris helped raise $35,000,000 to do, does not equate to someone being forced to defend themselves from an armed mob then being prosecuted for that act of self defense. Not even if the guy dared to disagree with BLM in online posts. Not even if the guy is white. If there was some actual damning evidence that proves this guy went hunting for blm rioters, why have they not bothered to show it? You know why. It doesn't exist. This is a political hit job on self defense and the serviceman who defended himself must be sacrificed to make that happen.

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Defendant said he was going hunting on Facebook. = intent
Saw the mob and drove into instead of retreating. If he had not driven into the mob (he had a chance to turn away), he would not have had the confrontation that led to a killing.
From this distance, there appears to be enough evidence to reach a guilty verdict.

Abbott seems to be influenced more by a Fox News personality instead of his legal training.

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When did he say that he was going BLM hunting? Oh right, "previously". Amazing what media protection of seven months of violent rioters will lead normal citizens to post in moments of anger....or danger. He was out working his job. That's not a crime and it's not hunting rioters.

Wangchung said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Wangchung said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Totally agree. Abbott is on thin ice. I can see other results with a different result the will have some going bat**** crazy, e.g. pardoning BLM rioters

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Rioters being bailed out, as Kamala Harris helped raise $35,000,000 to do, does not equate to someone being forced to defend themselves from an armed mob then being prosecuted for that act of self defense. Not even if the guy dared to disagree with BLM in online posts. Not even if the guy is white. If there was some actual damning evidence that proves this guy went hunting for blm rioters, why have they not bothered to show it? You know why. It doesn't exist. This is a political hit job on self defense and the serviceman who defended himself must be sacrificed to make that happen.

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Defendant said he was going hunting on Facebook. = intent
Saw the mob and drove into instead of retreating. If he had not driven into the mob (he had a chance to turn away), he would not have had the confrontation that led to a killing.
From this distance, there appears to be enough evidence to reach a guilty verdict.

Abbott seems to be influenced more by a Fox News personality instead of his legal training.

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When did he say that he was going BLM hunting? Oh right, "previously". Amazing what media protection of seven months of violent rioters will lead normal citizens to post in moments of anger....or danger. He was out working his job. That's not a crime and it's not hunting rioters.

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ihs Lawyer sucked, that's what it looks like it's boil down to..

His lawyer was unable to win the character battle

The trial didn't just focus on the night of the fatal shooting, but also on Foster's and Perry's social media activity, and Perry's private messages in the weeks prior to the shooting.
Evidence presented in court shows a social media post made by Perry on May 31st, 2020 regarding the topic of killing protestors.
"I might have to kill a few people on my way to work they are rioting outside my apartment complex," prosecutors read out during closing arguments.
More messages were shown dated June 1st, 2020, pertaining to a YouTube video, 'protestors, looters, get shot in San Antonio'. According to the court evidence, Perry responded with a message stating, 'Glad someone finally did something.'
Several posts were entered into evidence on June 3rd and later dates in June.
Private messages between Perry and a friend from June 13th were also revealed. The subject matter of those messages pertained to what qualifies as a 'good shoot' and discussions of various protest shootings.
Safari searches also entered into evidence revealed Perry looked up protests happening in Austin and Dallas.
"Make sure you only use one shot on the protestors so if they try you have enough. I'll only shoot the ones in the front and push the pedal to the metal," said a prosecutor, reading off the message.
https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/a-look-at-the-social-media-timeline-presented-in-the-daniel-perry-case

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The trial didn't just focus on the night of the fatal shooting, but also on Foster's and Perry's social media activity, and Perry's private messages in the weeks prior to the shooting.
Evidence presented in court shows a social media post made by Perry on May 31st, 2020 regarding the topic of killing protestors.
"I might have to kill a few people on my way to work they are rioting outside my apartment complex," prosecutors read out during closing arguments.
More messages were shown dated June 1st, 2020, pertaining to a YouTube video, 'protestors, looters, get shot in San Antonio'. According to the court evidence, Perry responded with a message stating, 'Glad someone finally did something.'
Several posts were entered into evidence on June 3rd and later dates in June.
Private messages between Perry and a friend from June 13th were also revealed. The subject matter of those messages pertained to what qualifies as a 'good shoot' and discussions of various protest shootings.
Safari searches also entered into evidence revealed Perry looked up protests happening in Austin and Dallas.
"Make sure you only use one shot on the protestors so if they try you have enough. I'll only shoot the ones in the front and push the pedal to the metal," said a prosecutor, reading off the message.
https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/a-look-at-the-social-media-timeline-presented-in-the-daniel-perry-case

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Sounds like he was seeing the nationwide violence and preparing for it in case he encountered it. I know I cheered on the law abiding citizens every time a criminal took them on and lost and that would be enough for a Travis County jury to convict. Believe me, I live here.

The last quoted line sounds like defensive planning to me. Vehicles had been getting swarmed and people beaten and killed by rioters. He needs to be freed and the DA should face prison time.

Wangchung said:

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Osodecentx said:

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The trial didn't just focus on the night of the fatal shooting, but also on Foster's and Perry's social media activity, and Perry's private messages in the weeks prior to the shooting.
Evidence presented in court shows a social media post made by Perry on May 31st, 2020 regarding the topic of killing protestors.
"I might have to kill a few people on my way to work they are rioting outside my apartment complex," prosecutors read out during closing arguments.
More messages were shown dated June 1st, 2020, pertaining to a YouTube video, 'protestors, looters, get shot in San Antonio'. According to the court evidence, Perry responded with a message stating, 'Glad someone finally did something.'
Several posts were entered into evidence on June 3rd and later dates in June.
Private messages between Perry and a friend from June 13th were also revealed. The subject matter of those messages pertained to what qualifies as a 'good shoot' and discussions of various protest shootings.
Safari searches also entered into evidence revealed Perry looked up protests happening in Austin and Dallas.
"Make sure you only use one shot on the protestors so if they try you have enough. I'll only shoot the ones in the front and push the pedal to the metal," said a prosecutor, reading off the message.
https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/a-look-at-the-social-media-timeline-presented-in-the-daniel-perry-case

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Sounds like he was seeing the nationwide violence and preparing for it in case he encountered it. I know I cheered on the law abiding citizens every time a criminal took them on and lost and that would be enough for a Travis County jury to convict. Believe me, I live here.

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I started riding with a pistol in my vehicle during BLM summer.

Still ride with it today.

Certainly the riots made me rethink my personal safety and the safety of my family.

https://www.independentsentinel.com/da-in-sgt-perry-case-ordered-exculpatory-evidence-hidden/

If true, he should get the pardon.

Former Uber driver Sgt. Daniel Perry was sentenced to 25 years in prison for shooting dead an armed leftist militant during a #BLM George Floyd riot in Austin, Texas. https://t.co/XV3g9uL3sz

— Andy Ngô 🏳️‍🌈 (@MrAndyNgo) May 10, 2023

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Mothra said:

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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Totally agree. Abbott is on thin ice. I can see other results with a different result the will have some going bat**** crazy, e.g. pardoning BLM rioters

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Rioters being bailed out, as Kamala Harris helped raise $35,000,000 to do, does not equate to someone being forced to defend themselves from an armed mob then being prosecuted for that act of self defense.

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It doesn't equate to a pardon, either. There's a vast difference between that and bail.

This is a travesty. There is no justice in America anymore. https://t.co/Kt9x8yBxeH

— 100% Southern Democracy Denier 🇸🇴 (@CarolinaMomma89) May 10, 2023

Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Totally agree. Abbott is on thin ice. I can see other results with a different result the will have some going bat**** crazy, e.g. pardoning BLM rioters

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Rioters being bailed out, as Kamala Harris helped raise $35,000,000 to do, does not equate to someone being forced to defend themselves from an armed mob then being prosecuted for that act of self defense.

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It doesn't equate to a pardon, either. There's a vast difference between that and bail
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Until you look at the crimes. Self defense versus rioting.

Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Totally agree. Abbott is on thin ice. I can see other results with a different result the will have some going bat**** crazy, e.g. pardoning BLM rioters

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Rioters being bailed out, as Kamala Harris helped raise $35,000,000 to do, does not equate to someone being forced to defend themselves from an armed mob then being prosecuted for that act of self defense.

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It doesn't equate to a pardon, either. There's a vast difference between that and bail
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Until you look at the crimes. Self defense versus rioting.

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Have looked at the crimes and can confirm there's still a vast difference between a pardon and bail.

Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Totally agree. Abbott is on thin ice. I can see other results with a different result the will have some going bat**** crazy, e.g. pardoning BLM rioters

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Rioters being bailed out, as Kamala Harris helped raise $35,000,000 to do, does not equate to someone being forced to defend themselves from an armed mob then being prosecuted for that act of self defense.

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It doesn't equate to a pardon, either. There's a vast difference between that and bail
.

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Until you look at the crimes. Self defense versus rioting.

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Have looked at the crimes and can confirm there's still a vast difference between a pardon and bail.

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A pardon for a man who merely defended himself is not comparable to a criminal who was arrested for rioting being bailed out for purely political reasons.

Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Totally agree. Abbott is on thin ice. I can see other results with a different result the will have some going bat**** crazy, e.g. pardoning BLM rioters

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Rioters being bailed out, as Kamala Harris helped raise $35,000,000 to do, does not equate to someone being forced to defend themselves from an armed mob then being prosecuted for that act of self defense.

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It doesn't equate to a pardon, either. There's a vast difference between that and bail
.

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Until you look at the crimes. Self defense versus rioting.

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Have looked at the crimes and can confirm there's still a vast difference between a pardon and bail.

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A pardon for a man who merely defended himself is not comparable to a criminal who was arrested for rioting being bailed out for purely political reasons.

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Indeed not. It's more comparable to a criminal who was arrested for rioting being pardoned.

Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Totally agree. Abbott is on thin ice. I can see other results with a different result the will have some going bat**** crazy, e.g. pardoning BLM rioters

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Rioters being bailed out, as Kamala Harris helped raise $35,000,000 to do, does not equate to someone being forced to defend themselves from an armed mob then being prosecuted for that act of self defense.

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It doesn't equate to a pardon, either. There's a vast difference between that and bail
.

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Until you look at the crimes. Self defense versus rioting.

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Have looked at the crimes and can confirm there's still a vast difference between a pardon and bail.

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A pardon for a man who merely defended himself is not comparable to a criminal who was arrested for rioting being bailed out for purely political reasons.

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Indeed not. It's more comparable to a criminal who was arrested for rioting being pardoned.

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No, it isn't, because a criminal rioter is not an innocent person, unlike a person who is forced to defend themselves. That you wouldn't understand the difference is unsurprising.

Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Totally agree. Abbott is on thin ice. I can see other results with a different result the will have some going bat**** crazy, e.g. pardoning BLM rioters

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Rioters being bailed out, as Kamala Harris helped raise $35,000,000 to do, does not equate to someone being forced to defend themselves from an armed mob then being prosecuted for that act of self defense.

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It doesn't equate to a pardon, either. There's a vast difference between that and bail
.

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Until you look at the crimes. Self defense versus rioting.

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Have looked at the crimes and can confirm there's still a vast difference between a pardon and bail.

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A pardon for a man who merely defended himself is not comparable to a criminal who was arrested for rioting being bailed out for purely political reasons.

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Indeed not. It's more comparable to a criminal who was arrested for rioting being pardoned.

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No, it isn't, because a criminal rioter is not an innocent person, unlike a person who is forced to defend themselves. That you wouldn't understand the difference is unsurprising.

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Even a rioter is innocent until proven guilty. Not surprised you wouldn't understand that.

There are some cases where the jury is obviously wrong, but this isn't one of them. If you're advocating a pardon without knowing all the facts, you're the one acting for purely political reasons.

Your characterization of the available evidence is also dishonest. The defendant didn't just "disagree" with BLM. He specifically talked about shooting and killing people.

Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Totally agree. Abbott is on thin ice. I can see other results with a different result the will have some going bat**** crazy, e.g. pardoning BLM rioters

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Rioters being bailed out, as Kamala Harris helped raise $35,000,000 to do, does not equate to someone being forced to defend themselves from an armed mob then being prosecuted for that act of self defense.

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It doesn't equate to a pardon, either. There's a vast difference between that and bail
.

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Until you look at the crimes. Self defense versus rioting.

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Have looked at the crimes and can confirm there's still a vast difference between a pardon and bail.

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A pardon for a man who merely defended himself is not comparable to a criminal who was arrested for rioting being bailed out for purely political reasons.

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Indeed not. It's more comparable to a criminal who was arrested for rioting being pardoned.

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No, it isn't, because a criminal rioter is not an innocent person, unlike a person who is forced to defend themselves. That you wouldn't understand the difference is unsurprising.

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Even a rioter is innocent until proven guilty. Not surprised you wouldn't understand that.

There are some cases where the jury is obviously wrong, but this isn't one of them. If you're advocating a pardon without knowing all the facts, you're the one acting for purely political reasons.

Your characterization of the available evidence is also dishonest. The defendant didn't just "disagree" with BLM. He specifically talked about shooting and killing people.

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Legally speaking they're innocent until proven guilty but only a raging moron would claim that LEGAL distinction means we cannot look at the facts in front of us and make a reasonable judgment. Rioters caught in the act of rioting at a riot are not the same as a person who dared to previously display a dislike for violent leftists rioters ending up needing to defend himself from a man who stated, on video that day, that he uses his rifle to intimidate. A man who later raised that same rifle at the man who's vehicle he and his rioting buddies just surrounded. At a man who was actually working. I live in Travis county. I know this jury pool quite well. You can play semantics all you like but the man deserves a pardon. It's just too bad he didn't take more rioters out first.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Wangchung said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Mothra said:

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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Totally agree. Abbott is on thin ice. I can see other results with a different result the will have some going bat**** crazy, e.g. pardoning BLM rioters

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Rioters being bailed out, as Kamala Harris helped raise $35,000,000 to do, does not equate to someone being forced to defend themselves from an armed mob then being prosecuted for that act of self defense.

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It doesn't equate to a pardon, either. There's a vast difference between that and bail
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Until you look at the crimes. Self defense versus rioting.

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Have looked at the crimes and can confirm there's still a vast difference between a pardon and bail.

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A pardon for a man who merely defended himself is not comparable to a criminal who was arrested for rioting being bailed out for purely political reasons.

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Indeed not. It's more comparable to a criminal who was arrested for rioting being pardoned.

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No, it isn't, because a criminal rioter is not an innocent person, unlike a person who is forced to defend themselves. That you wouldn't understand the difference is unsurprising.

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Even a rioter is innocent until proven guilty. Not surprised you wouldn't understand that.

There are some cases where the jury is obviously wrong, but this isn't one of them. If you're advocating a pardon without knowing all the facts, you're the one acting for purely political reasons.

Your characterization of the available evidence is also dishonest. The defendant didn't just "disagree" with BLM. He specifically talked about shooting and killing people.

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Legally speaking they're innocent until proven guilty but only a raging moron would claim that LEGAL distinction means we cannot look at the facts in front of us and make a reasonable judgment. Rioters caught in the act of rioting at a riot are not the same as a person who dared to previously display a dislike for violent leftists rioters ending up needing to defend himself from a man who stated, on video that day, that he uses his rifle to intimidate. A man who later raised that same rifle at the man who's vehicle he and his rioting buddies just surrounded. At a man who was actually working. I live in Travis county. I know this jury pool quite well. You can play semantics all you like but the man deserves a pardon. It's just too bad he didn't take more rioters out first.

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You don't know how many were caught in the act of rioting and how many weren't. You're again making assumptions for political reasons. And again, this defendant didn't just display a dislike for someone. He displayed an intention to "go to Dallas to shoot looters."

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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Totally agree. Abbott is on thin ice. I can see other results with a different result the will have some going bat**** crazy, e.g. pardoning BLM rioters

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Rioters being bailed out, as Kamala Harris helped raise $35,000,000 to do, does not equate to someone being forced to defend themselves from an armed mob then being prosecuted for that act of self defense.

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It doesn't equate to a pardon, either. There's a vast difference between that and bail
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Until you look at the crimes. Self defense versus rioting.

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Have looked at the crimes and can confirm there's still a vast difference between a pardon and bail.

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A pardon for a man who merely defended himself is not comparable to a criminal who was arrested for rioting being bailed out for purely political reasons.

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Indeed not. It's more comparable to a criminal who was arrested for rioting being pardoned.

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No, it isn't, because a criminal rioter is not an innocent person, unlike a person who is forced to defend themselves. That you wouldn't understand the difference is unsurprising.

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Even a rioter is innocent until proven guilty. Not surprised you wouldn't understand that.

There are some cases where the jury is obviously wrong, but this isn't one of them. If you're advocating a pardon without knowing all the facts, you're the one acting for purely political reasons.

Your characterization of the available evidence is also dishonest. The defendant didn't just "disagree" with BLM. He specifically talked about shooting and killing people.

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Legally speaking they're innocent until proven guilty but only a raging moron would claim that LEGAL distinction means we cannot look at the facts in front of us and make a reasonable judgment. Rioters caught in the act of rioting at a riot are not the same as a person who dared to previously display a dislike for violent leftists rioters ending up needing to defend himself from a man who stated, on video that day, that he uses his rifle to intimidate. A man who later raised that same rifle at the man who's vehicle he and his rioting buddies just surrounded. At a man who was actually working. I live in Travis county. I know this jury pool quite well. You can play semantics all you like but the man deserves a pardon. It's just too bad he didn't take more rioters out first.

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You don't know how many were caught in the act of rioting and how many weren't. You're again making assumptions for political reasons. And again, this defendant didn't just display a dislike for someone. He displayed an intention to "go to Dallas to shoot looters."

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Nah. He made jokes about it and the prosecution pretended it was a manifesto. People getting arrested for rioting during a riot don't typically hang around riots for any other reason. Try again.

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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Totally agree. Abbott is on thin ice. I can see other results with a different result the will have some going bat**** crazy, e.g. pardoning BLM rioters

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Rioters being bailed out, as Kamala Harris helped raise $35,000,000 to do, does not equate to someone being forced to defend themselves from an armed mob then being prosecuted for that act of self defense.

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It doesn't equate to a pardon, either. There's a vast difference between that and bail
.

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Until you look at the crimes. Self defense versus rioting.

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Have looked at the crimes and can confirm there's still a vast difference between a pardon and bail.

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A pardon for a man who merely defended himself is not comparable to a criminal who was arrested for rioting being bailed out for purely political reasons.

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Indeed not. It's more comparable to a criminal who was arrested for rioting being pardoned.

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No, it isn't, because a criminal rioter is not an innocent person, unlike a person who is forced to defend themselves. That you wouldn't understand the difference is unsurprising.

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Even a rioter is innocent until proven guilty. Not surprised you wouldn't understand that.

There are some cases where the jury is obviously wrong, but this isn't one of them. If you're advocating a pardon without knowing all the facts, you're the one acting for purely political reasons.

Your characterization of the available evidence is also dishonest. The defendant didn't just "disagree" with BLM. He specifically talked about shooting and killing people.

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Legally speaking they're innocent until proven guilty but only a raging moron would claim that LEGAL distinction means we cannot look at the facts in front of us and make a reasonable judgment. Rioters caught in the act of rioting at a riot are not the same as a person who dared to previously display a dislike for violent leftists rioters ending up needing to defend himself from a man who stated, on video that day, that he uses his rifle to intimidate. A man who later raised that same rifle at the man who's vehicle he and his rioting buddies just surrounded. At a man who was actually working. I live in Travis county. I know this jury pool quite well. You can play semantics all you like but the man deserves a pardon. It's just too bad he didn't take more rioters out first.

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You don't know how many were caught in the act of rioting and how many weren't. You're again making assumptions for political reasons. And again, this defendant didn't just display a dislike for someone. He displayed an intention to "go to Dallas to shoot looters."

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Nah. He made jokes about it and the prosecution pretended it was a manifesto. People getting arrested for rioting during a riot don't typically hang around riots for any other reason. Try again.

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People get arrested for violating curfew during riots all the time. I'd say try again, but if "hoping to catch me a negro daddy" is your idea of a joke...maybe never mind.

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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Totally agree. Abbott is on thin ice. I can see other results with a different result the will have some going bat**** crazy, e.g. pardoning BLM rioters

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Rioters being bailed out, as Kamala Harris helped raise $35,000,000 to do, does not equate to someone being forced to defend themselves from an armed mob then being prosecuted for that act of self defense.

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It doesn't equate to a pardon, either. There's a vast difference between that and bail
.

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Until you look at the crimes. Self defense versus rioting.

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Have looked at the crimes and can confirm there's still a vast difference between a pardon and bail.

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A pardon for a man who merely defended himself is not comparable to a criminal who was arrested for rioting being bailed out for purely political reasons.

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Indeed not. It's more comparable to a criminal who was arrested for rioting being pardoned.

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No, it isn't, because a criminal rioter is not an innocent person, unlike a person who is forced to defend themselves. That you wouldn't understand the difference is unsurprising.

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Even a rioter is innocent until proven guilty. Not surprised you wouldn't understand that.

There are some cases where the jury is obviously wrong, but this isn't one of them. If you're advocating a pardon without knowing all the facts, you're the one acting for purely political reasons.

Your characterization of the available evidence is also dishonest. The defendant didn't just "disagree" with BLM. He specifically talked about shooting and killing people.

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Legally speaking they're innocent until proven guilty but only a raging moron would claim that LEGAL distinction means we cannot look at the facts in front of us and make a reasonable judgment. Rioters caught in the act of rioting at a riot are not the same as a person who dared to previously display a dislike for violent leftists rioters ending up needing to defend himself from a man who stated, on video that day, that he uses his rifle to intimidate. A man who later raised that same rifle at the man who's vehicle he and his rioting buddies just surrounded. At a man who was actually working. I live in Travis county. I know this jury pool quite well. You can play semantics all you like but the man deserves a pardon. It's just too bad he didn't take more rioters out first.

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You don't know how many were caught in the act of rioting and how many weren't. You're again making assumptions for political reasons. And again, this defendant didn't just display a dislike for someone. He displayed an intention to "go to Dallas to shoot looters."

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Nah. He made jokes about it and the prosecution pretended it was a manifesto. People getting arrested for rioting during a riot don't typically hang around riots for any other reason. Try again.

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People get arrested for violating curfew during riots all the time. I'd say try again, but if "hoping to catch me a negro daddy" is your idea of a joke...maybe never mind.

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Riiight, they were just out observing the deadly riots, despite the rest of society being on lockdown for Covid. Sure, the police made it clear that, due to the deadly riots, everyone should leave the area but those good folks just wanted to watch the peaceful protestors burning down their city, totally innocent. If that doesn't call for a blanket rioter bail fund I don't know what does.
Also, pointing out that he made an online joke is in no way me condoning the joke itself, but I get why you would try such a distraction. By the way, he shot a white rioter.

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Mothra said:

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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Totally agree. Abbott is on thin ice. I can see other results with a different result the will have some going bat**** crazy, e.g. pardoning BLM rioters

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Rioters being bailed out, as Kamala Harris helped raise $35,000,000 to do, does not equate to someone being forced to defend themselves from an armed mob then being prosecuted for that act of self defense.

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It doesn't equate to a pardon, either. There's a vast difference between that and bail
.

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Until you look at the crimes. Self defense versus rioting.

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Have looked at the crimes and can confirm there's still a vast difference between a pardon and bail.

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A pardon for a man who merely defended himself is not comparable to a criminal who was arrested for rioting being bailed out for purely political reasons.

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It will be very interesting to see if the Texas GOP does anything about this politically motivated prosecution and conviction in Austin.

Here is a chance to pardon a man from an unjust sentence....will they do something for their actual voters are continue their long tradition of doing nothing except helping out big business.

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Wangchung said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Wangchung said:

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Mothra said:

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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Totally agree. Abbott is on thin ice. I can see other results with a different result the will have some going bat**** crazy, e.g. pardoning BLM rioters

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Rioters being bailed out, as Kamala Harris helped raise $35,000,000 to do, does not equate to someone being forced to defend themselves from an armed mob then being prosecuted for that act of self defense.

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It doesn't equate to a pardon, either. There's a vast difference between that and bail
.

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Until you look at the crimes. Self defense versus rioting.

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Have looked at the crimes and can confirm there's still a vast difference between a pardon and bail.

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A pardon for a man who merely defended himself is not comparable to a criminal who was arrested for rioting being bailed out for purely political reasons.

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It will be very interesting to see if the Texas GOP does anything about this politically motivated prosecution and conviction in Austin.

Here is a chance to pardon a man from an unjust sentence....will they do something for their actual voters are continue their long tradition of doing nothing except helping out big business.

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If Abbott has ANY interest in running for potus, a pardon here would rocket him above Desantis.

Daniel Perry in Austin and now..

Daniel Penny in NYC

BREAKING: Former Marine Daniel Penny to face criminal charges as early as Friday in chokehold death of Jordan Neely: reporthttps://t.co/W1c4F1IjhB

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) May 11, 2023

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Daniel Perry in Austin and now..

Daniel Penny in NYC

BREAKING: Former Marine Daniel Penny to face criminal charges as early as Friday in chokehold death of Jordan Neely: reporthttps://t.co/W1c4F1IjhB

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) May 11, 2023

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the result will be the same

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Daniel Perry in Austin and now..

Daniel Penny in NYC

BREAKING: Former Marine Daniel Penny to face criminal charges as early as Friday in chokehold death of Jordan Neely: reporthttps://t.co/W1c4F1IjhB

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) May 11, 2023

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the result will be the same

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Should have left the country. There’s no point in pretending anything about this system is legitimate. https://t.co/BXFqE6QGjE

— James Kirkpatrick (@VDAREJamesK) May 11, 2023

4 teens murdered a young black female police officer in Chicago out of boredom but t'racism

Four people have been charged with the murder of Chicago Police officer Areanah Preston.

I won’t even say their names. (One is a juvenile and not pictured.)

Where the fuck is BLM?
Where is AOC?
Where is Al Sharpton?

Did Areanah’s life not matter??

R/T and get this out there.… pic.twitter.com/Ghcwk7FYhO

— Amiri King (@AmiriKing) May 11, 2023

Alvin Bragg tried to prosecute a bodega clerk for self-defense but after the Dominican community mobilized, Bragg dropped the charges due to political pressure.

I don't Penny will have anyone mobilize to defend him. https://t.co/jw43Gja8D9

— Jimmy Gandhi (@jimmygandhi) May 11, 2023

BREAKING: As I predicted, Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg is formally charging Marine veteran Daniel Penny with manslaughter in the death of Jordan Neely.

Let this be a warning, if a black attempted kidnapper and elderly abuser threatens your life, YOU SIT THERE AND TAKE IT.

How dare… pic.twitter.com/top0DttwUp

— Amiri King (@AmiriKing) May 11, 2023

“In the Soviet Criminal Code of 1926 'on the limits of necessary self-defense'—you had the right to unsheath your knife only after the criminal's knife was hovering over you. And you could stab him only after he had stabbed you."
-Solzhenitsyn https://t.co/STEDRqbrzB pic.twitter.com/qPALzzE3Wf

— Matthew Salvini (@MattyBoySwag143) May 12, 2023

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Have a really hard time with this one. No doubt the Travis County DA is as bad as they come. He truly is as incompetent DA as any in the United States, and his decision not to prosecute criminals has made Austin unsafe.

But this man was tried by a jury of his peers, who believed he did something wrong. And believe it or not, Travis County juries aren't the bastion of liberals that people think they are. They are very diverse in both race and politics.

I haven't seen all the evidence, but I suspect there is a lot more to this story.

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Totally agree. Abbott is on thin ice. I can see other results with a different result the will have some going bat**** crazy, e.g. pardoning BLM rioters

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Rioters being bailed out, as Kamala Harris helped raise $35,000,000 to do, does not equate to someone being forced to defend themselves from an armed mob then being prosecuted for that act of self defense.

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It doesn't equate to a pardon, either. There's a vast difference between that and bail
.

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Until you look at the crimes. Self defense versus rioting.

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Have looked at the crimes and can confirm there's still a vast difference between a pardon and bail.

---

A pardon for a man who merely defended himself is not comparable to a criminal who was arrested for rioting being bailed out for purely political reasons.

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Indeed not. It's more comparable to a criminal who was arrested for rioting being pardoned.

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No, it isn't, because a criminal rioter is not an innocent person, unlike a person who is forced to defend themselves. That you wouldn't understand the difference is unsurprising.

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Even a rioter is innocent until proven guilty. Not surprised you wouldn't understand that.

There are some cases where the jury is obviously wrong, but this isn't one of them. If you're advocating a pardon without knowing all the facts, you're the one acting for purely political reasons.

Your characterization of the available evidence is also dishonest. The defendant didn't just "disagree" with BLM. He specifically talked about shooting and killing people.

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Legally speaking they're innocent until proven guilty but only a raging moron would claim that LEGAL distinction means we cannot look at the facts in front of us and make a reasonable judgment. Rioters caught in the act of rioting at a riot are not the same as a person who dared to previously display a dislike for violent leftists rioters ending up needing to defend himself from a man who stated, on video that day, that he uses his rifle to intimidate. A man who later raised that same rifle at the man who's vehicle he and his rioting buddies just surrounded. At a man who was actually working. I live in Travis county. I know this jury pool quite well. You can play semantics all you like but the man deserves a pardon. It's just too bad he didn't take more rioters out first.

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You don't know how many were caught in the act of rioting and how many weren't. You're again making assumptions for political reasons. And again, this defendant didn't just display a dislike for someone. He displayed an intention to "go to Dallas to shoot looters."

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Nah. He made jokes about it and the prosecution pretended it was a manifesto. People getting arrested for rioting during a riot don't typically hang around riots for any other reason. Try again.

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People get arrested for violating curfew during riots all the time. I'd say try again, but if "hoping to catch me a negro daddy" is your idea of a joke...maybe never mind.

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Riiight, they were just out observing the deadly riots, despite the rest of society being on lockdown for Covid. Sure, the police made it clear that, due to the deadly riots, everyone should leave the area but those good folks just wanted to watch the peaceful protestors burning down their city, totally innocent. If that doesn't call for a blanket rioter bail fund I don't know what does.
Also, pointing out that he made an online joke is in no way me condoning the joke itself, but I get why you would try such a distraction. By the way, he shot a white rioter.

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There was a whole conversation where Perry talked about initiating a confrontation and then claiming self-defense. His friend didn't take it as a joke. Instead he scolded Perry and tried to talk him down. So whom should we believe, you or him?