Daniel Perry Trail - Guilty Verdict

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cms186
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For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
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For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
For a guy that hates guns, you sure seem to have no trouble with someone threatening a citizen with an AR-15.

Neely was arrested 42 times. He should not have been on the streets. He is now in a better place. Not here. Everybody wins. Citizens are safer and I'm sure Neely's family will win the Ghetto Lotto!
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
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quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

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Quash: "let the system work via appeal."

Quash to English translation: 'I don't like him, so let him rot for months, maybe years until an appeals court gets around to reviewing the decision.'




Got nothing to do with him. This is about how the system is supposed to play out. Whether he is allowed to bond out pending appeal is up to the judge, not you.

You should stop trying to translate for me, you suck are annoyingly accurate at it.

Corrected.

Your double-standard reeks, quash.

Why do you hate the American system of justice?

Poor Quash, somehow unaware that pardons are part of that system.



And you're boringly unaware of bonds and appeals and how the criminal justice system works.

Actually, I seem to be more aware than you on that point. Specifically as to how long they take, and whether they are the sole option.

You have been very bitter lately, quash. Hope your health is good.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
For a guy that hates guns, you sure seem to have no trouble with someone threatening a citizen with an AR-15.

Neely was arrested 42 times. He should not have been on the streets. He is now in a better place. Not here. Everybody wins. Citizens are safer and I'm sure Neely's family will win the Ghetto Lotto!
That's where you are wrong, but surely there's at least one level between "not having a problem" with someone doing something and being fine with that guy being gunned down in the street?

Can we not say yeah, these 2 people shouldn't have been doing what they were doing, but maybe they didn't deserve to be executed for doing it?

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cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
For a guy that hates guns, you sure seem to have no trouble with someone threatening a citizen with an AR-15.

Neely was arrested 42 times. He should not have been on the streets. He is now in a better place. Not here. Everybody wins. Citizens are safer and I'm sure Neely's family will win the Ghetto Lotto!
That's where you are wrong, but surely there's at least one level between "not having a problem" with someone doing something and being fine with that guy being gunned down in the street?

Can we not say yeah, these 2 people shouldn't have been doing what they were doing, but maybe they didn't deserve to be executed for doing it?


If you are an individual that threatens someone else's life, you should fully expect that you might very possibly lose your life. Plain and simple. This also applies to the mentally unstable. Treat people respectfully and obey the law, chances are you will be just fine. Civilization 101.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
cms186
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
For a guy that hates guns, you sure seem to have no trouble with someone threatening a citizen with an AR-15.

Neely was arrested 42 times. He should not have been on the streets. He is now in a better place. Not here. Everybody wins. Citizens are safer and I'm sure Neely's family will win the Ghetto Lotto!
That's where you are wrong, but surely there's at least one level between "not having a problem" with someone doing something and being fine with that guy being gunned down in the street?

Can we not say yeah, these 2 people shouldn't have been doing what they were doing, but maybe they didn't deserve to be executed for doing it?


If you are an individual that threatens someone else's life, you should fully expect that you might very possibly lose your life. Plain and simple. This also applies to the mentally unstable. Treat people respectfully and obey the law, chances are you will be just fine. Civilization 101.
No, if you make threats then you should expect to be arrested and detained for making those threats, you should not expect to be killed, doubly so if you are mentally ill, breaking the law should not automatically mean your life is in danger, especially if you are not endangering someone elses life.
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One of your better posts RDY.
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cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
For a guy that hates guns, you sure seem to have no trouble with someone threatening a citizen with an AR-15.

Neely was arrested 42 times. He should not have been on the streets. He is now in a better place. Not here. Everybody wins. Citizens are safer and I'm sure Neely's family will win the Ghetto Lotto!
That's where you are wrong, but surely there's at least one level between "not having a problem" with someone doing something and being fine with that guy being gunned down in the street?

Can we not say yeah, these 2 people shouldn't have been doing what they were doing, but maybe they didn't deserve to be executed for doing it?


If you are an individual that threatens someone else's life, you should fully expect that you might very possibly lose your life. Plain and simple. This also applies to the mentally unstable. Treat people respectfully and obey the law, chances are you will be just fine. Civilization 101.
No, if you make threats then you should expect to be arrested and detained for making those threats, you should not expect to be killed, doubly so if you are mentally ill, breaking the law should not automatically mean your life is in danger, especially if you are not endangering someone elses life.
Nice theory you have. Does not work well in the real world, however.
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cms186 said:

For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?


So, can you clarify? The regressives claim "silence is violence" and "misgendering" is akin to a violent assault. So according to regressives Neely assaulted myriad subway riders.
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Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
For a guy that hates guns, you sure seem to have no trouble with someone threatening a citizen with an AR-15.

Neely was arrested 42 times. He should not have been on the streets. He is now in a better place. Not here. Everybody wins. Citizens are safer and I'm sure Neely's family will win the Ghetto Lotto!
That's where you are wrong, but surely there's at least one level between "not having a problem" with someone doing something and being fine with that guy being gunned down in the street?

Can we not say yeah, these 2 people shouldn't have been doing what they were doing, but maybe they didn't deserve to be executed for doing it?


If you are an individual that threatens someone else's life, you should fully expect that you might very possibly lose your life. Plain and simple. This also applies to the mentally unstable. Treat people respectfully and obey the law, chances are you will be just fine. Civilization 101.
No, if you make threats then you should expect to be arrested and detained for making those threats, you should not expect to be killed, doubly so if you are mentally ill, breaking the law should not automatically mean your life is in danger, especially if you are not endangering someone elses life.
Nice theory you have. Does not work well in the real world, however.
It works pretty well in countries where some people don't think an appropriate response to someone knocking on your door is to blow them away with a gun
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cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
For a guy that hates guns, you sure seem to have no trouble with someone threatening a citizen with an AR-15.

Neely was arrested 42 times. He should not have been on the streets. He is now in a better place. Not here. Everybody wins. Citizens are safer and I'm sure Neely's family will win the Ghetto Lotto!
That's where you are wrong, but surely there's at least one level between "not having a problem" with someone doing something and being fine with that guy being gunned down in the street?

Can we not say yeah, these 2 people shouldn't have been doing what they were doing, but maybe they didn't deserve to be executed for doing it?


If you are an individual that threatens someone else's life, you should fully expect that you might very possibly lose your life. Plain and simple. This also applies to the mentally unstable. Treat people respectfully and obey the law, chances are you will be just fine. Civilization 101.
No, if you make threats then you should expect to be arrested and detained for making those threats, you should not expect to be killed, doubly so if you are mentally ill, breaking the law should not automatically mean your life is in danger, especially if you are not endangering someone elses life.
Nice theory you have. Does not work well in the real world, however.
It works pretty well in countries where some people don't think an appropriate response to someone knocking on your door is to blow them away with a gun
Do they think killing your own children because they don't like their sex is healthcare? Just want to get a bead on how they value human life since self-defense is apparently bad.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
For a guy that hates guns, you sure seem to have no trouble with someone threatening a citizen with an AR-15.

Neely was arrested 42 times. He should not have been on the streets. He is now in a better place. Not here. Everybody wins. Citizens are safer and I'm sure Neely's family will win the Ghetto Lotto!
That's where you are wrong, but surely there's at least one level between "not having a problem" with someone doing something and being fine with that guy being gunned down in the street?

Can we not say yeah, these 2 people shouldn't have been doing what they were doing, but maybe they didn't deserve to be executed for doing it?


If you are an individual that threatens someone else's life, you should fully expect that you might very possibly lose your life. Plain and simple. This also applies to the mentally unstable. Treat people respectfully and obey the law, chances are you will be just fine. Civilization 101.
No, if you make threats then you should expect to be arrested and detained for making those threats, you should not expect to be killed, doubly so if you are mentally ill, breaking the law should not automatically mean your life is in danger, especially if you are not endangering someone elses life.
Nice theory you have. Does not work well in the real world, however.
It works pretty well in countries where some people don't think an appropriate response to someone knocking on your door is to blow them away with a gun
So, imaginary scenario because facts don't work for you.
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Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
For a guy that hates guns, you sure seem to have no trouble with someone threatening a citizen with an AR-15.

Neely was arrested 42 times. He should not have been on the streets. He is now in a better place. Not here. Everybody wins. Citizens are safer and I'm sure Neely's family will win the Ghetto Lotto!
That's where you are wrong, but surely there's at least one level between "not having a problem" with someone doing something and being fine with that guy being gunned down in the street?

Can we not say yeah, these 2 people shouldn't have been doing what they were doing, but maybe they didn't deserve to be executed for doing it?


If you are an individual that threatens someone else's life, you should fully expect that you might very possibly lose your life. Plain and simple. This also applies to the mentally unstable. Treat people respectfully and obey the law, chances are you will be just fine. Civilization 101.
No, if you make threats then you should expect to be arrested and detained for making those threats, you should not expect to be killed, doubly so if you are mentally ill, breaking the law should not automatically mean your life is in danger, especially if you are not endangering someone elses life.
Nice theory you have. Does not work well in the real world, however.
It works pretty well in countries where some people don't think an appropriate response to someone knocking on your door is to blow them away with a gun
So, imaginary scenario because facts don't work for you.
Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
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cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
For a guy that hates guns, you sure seem to have no trouble with someone threatening a citizen with an AR-15.

Neely was arrested 42 times. He should not have been on the streets. He is now in a better place. Not here. Everybody wins. Citizens are safer and I'm sure Neely's family will win the Ghetto Lotto!
That's where you are wrong, but surely there's at least one level between "not having a problem" with someone doing something and being fine with that guy being gunned down in the street?

Can we not say yeah, these 2 people shouldn't have been doing what they were doing, but maybe they didn't deserve to be executed for doing it?


If you are an individual that threatens someone else's life, you should fully expect that you might very possibly lose your life. Plain and simple. This also applies to the mentally unstable. Treat people respectfully and obey the law, chances are you will be just fine. Civilization 101.
No, if you make threats then you should expect to be arrested and detained for making those threats, you should not expect to be killed, doubly so if you are mentally ill, breaking the law should not automatically mean your life is in danger, especially if you are not endangering someone elses life.
Nice theory you have. Does not work well in the real world, however.
It works pretty well in countries where some people don't think an appropriate response to someone knocking on your door is to blow them away with a gun
So, imaginary scenario because facts don't work for you.
Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
Ahhh, you have been listening to scary tales from the Left again.

As I noted, facts don't work for you.
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cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
For a guy that hates guns, you sure seem to have no trouble with someone threatening a citizen with an AR-15.

Neely was arrested 42 times. He should not have been on the streets. He is now in a better place. Not here. Everybody wins. Citizens are safer and I'm sure Neely's family will win the Ghetto Lotto!
That's where you are wrong, but surely there's at least one level between "not having a problem" with someone doing something and being fine with that guy being gunned down in the street?

Can we not say yeah, these 2 people shouldn't have been doing what they were doing, but maybe they didn't deserve to be executed for doing it?


If you are an individual that threatens someone else's life, you should fully expect that you might very possibly lose your life. Plain and simple. This also applies to the mentally unstable. Treat people respectfully and obey the law, chances are you will be just fine. Civilization 101.
No, if you make threats then you should expect to be arrested and detained for making those threats, you should not expect to be killed, doubly so if you are mentally ill, breaking the law should not automatically mean your life is in danger, especially if you are not endangering someone elses life.
Nice theory you have. Does not work well in the real world, however.
It works pretty well in countries where some people don't think an appropriate response to someone knocking on your door is to blow them away with a gun
So, imaginary scenario because facts don't work for you.
Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
This is a request for facts and data, so we know you will not respond, but I'm going to ask anyway just to give you another chance to demonstrate what a clueless dumb**** you are.
1. What combination of race / sex commits the highest level of violent crimes as compared to its percentage of the population
2. What combination of race / sex commits the highest number of hate crimes as compared to its percentage of the population

I know you can't answer, but your dumb****ery is amusing.
cms186
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Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
For a guy that hates guns, you sure seem to have no trouble with someone threatening a citizen with an AR-15.

Neely was arrested 42 times. He should not have been on the streets. He is now in a better place. Not here. Everybody wins. Citizens are safer and I'm sure Neely's family will win the Ghetto Lotto!
That's where you are wrong, but surely there's at least one level between "not having a problem" with someone doing something and being fine with that guy being gunned down in the street?

Can we not say yeah, these 2 people shouldn't have been doing what they were doing, but maybe they didn't deserve to be executed for doing it?


If you are an individual that threatens someone else's life, you should fully expect that you might very possibly lose your life. Plain and simple. This also applies to the mentally unstable. Treat people respectfully and obey the law, chances are you will be just fine. Civilization 101.
No, if you make threats then you should expect to be arrested and detained for making those threats, you should not expect to be killed, doubly so if you are mentally ill, breaking the law should not automatically mean your life is in danger, especially if you are not endangering someone elses life.
Nice theory you have. Does not work well in the real world, however.
It works pretty well in countries where some people don't think an appropriate response to someone knocking on your door is to blow them away with a gun
So, imaginary scenario because facts don't work for you.
Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
Ahhh, you have been listening to scary tales from the Left again.

As I noted, facts don't work for you.
Oh, so these people didnt die and the Communist Left has made the stories up? well, why hasn't this been pointed out sooner? quick, lets get the proof you have that these things never happened and lets illuminate the world to this Marxist conspiracy!!
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Harrison Bergeron said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
For a guy that hates guns, you sure seem to have no trouble with someone threatening a citizen with an AR-15.

Neely was arrested 42 times. He should not have been on the streets. He is now in a better place. Not here. Everybody wins. Citizens are safer and I'm sure Neely's family will win the Ghetto Lotto!
That's where you are wrong, but surely there's at least one level between "not having a problem" with someone doing something and being fine with that guy being gunned down in the street?

Can we not say yeah, these 2 people shouldn't have been doing what they were doing, but maybe they didn't deserve to be executed for doing it?


If you are an individual that threatens someone else's life, you should fully expect that you might very possibly lose your life. Plain and simple. This also applies to the mentally unstable. Treat people respectfully and obey the law, chances are you will be just fine. Civilization 101.
No, if you make threats then you should expect to be arrested and detained for making those threats, you should not expect to be killed, doubly so if you are mentally ill, breaking the law should not automatically mean your life is in danger, especially if you are not endangering someone elses life.
Nice theory you have. Does not work well in the real world, however.
It works pretty well in countries where some people don't think an appropriate response to someone knocking on your door is to blow them away with a gun
So, imaginary scenario because facts don't work for you.
Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
This is a request for facts and data, so we know you will not respond, but I'm going to ask anyway just to give you another chance to demonstrate what a clueless dumb**** you are.
1. What combination of race / sex commits the highest level of violent crimes as compared to its percentage of the population
2. What combination of race / sex commits the highest number of hate crimes as compared to its percentage of the population

I know you can't answer, but your dumb****ery is amusing.
We all know the answer will be Black Male, im not sure what you hope to gain from this pointless endeavour, unless you think that because Black Men are statistically more likely to commit Violent crimes, that gives you the right to view all Black Men with suspicion and shoot them if they happen to come to your door?
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cms186 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
For a guy that hates guns, you sure seem to have no trouble with someone threatening a citizen with an AR-15.

Neely was arrested 42 times. He should not have been on the streets. He is now in a better place. Not here. Everybody wins. Citizens are safer and I'm sure Neely's family will win the Ghetto Lotto!
That's where you are wrong, but surely there's at least one level between "not having a problem" with someone doing something and being fine with that guy being gunned down in the street?

Can we not say yeah, these 2 people shouldn't have been doing what they were doing, but maybe they didn't deserve to be executed for doing it?


If you are an individual that threatens someone else's life, you should fully expect that you might very possibly lose your life. Plain and simple. This also applies to the mentally unstable. Treat people respectfully and obey the law, chances are you will be just fine. Civilization 101.
No, if you make threats then you should expect to be arrested and detained for making those threats, you should not expect to be killed, doubly so if you are mentally ill, breaking the law should not automatically mean your life is in danger, especially if you are not endangering someone elses life.
Nice theory you have. Does not work well in the real world, however.
It works pretty well in countries where some people don't think an appropriate response to someone knocking on your door is to blow them away with a gun
So, imaginary scenario because facts don't work for you.
Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
This is a request for facts and data, so we know you will not respond, but I'm going to ask anyway just to give you another chance to demonstrate what a clueless dumb**** you are.
1. What combination of race / sex commits the highest level of violent crimes as compared to its percentage of the population
2. What combination of race / sex commits the highest number of hate crimes as compared to its percentage of the population

I know you can't answer, but your dumb****ery is amusing.
We all know the answer will be Black Male, im not sure what you hope to gain from this pointless endeavour, unless you think that because Black Men are statistically more likely to commit Violent crimes, that gives you the right to view all Black Men with suspicion and shoot them if they happen to come to your door?
So you never let the odds impact the decisions in your life?
cms186
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whiterock said:

cms186 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
For a guy that hates guns, you sure seem to have no trouble with someone threatening a citizen with an AR-15.

Neely was arrested 42 times. He should not have been on the streets. He is now in a better place. Not here. Everybody wins. Citizens are safer and I'm sure Neely's family will win the Ghetto Lotto!
That's where you are wrong, but surely there's at least one level between "not having a problem" with someone doing something and being fine with that guy being gunned down in the street?

Can we not say yeah, these 2 people shouldn't have been doing what they were doing, but maybe they didn't deserve to be executed for doing it?


If you are an individual that threatens someone else's life, you should fully expect that you might very possibly lose your life. Plain and simple. This also applies to the mentally unstable. Treat people respectfully and obey the law, chances are you will be just fine. Civilization 101.
No, if you make threats then you should expect to be arrested and detained for making those threats, you should not expect to be killed, doubly so if you are mentally ill, breaking the law should not automatically mean your life is in danger, especially if you are not endangering someone elses life.
Nice theory you have. Does not work well in the real world, however.
It works pretty well in countries where some people don't think an appropriate response to someone knocking on your door is to blow them away with a gun
So, imaginary scenario because facts don't work for you.
Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
This is a request for facts and data, so we know you will not respond, but I'm going to ask anyway just to give you another chance to demonstrate what a clueless dumb**** you are.
1. What combination of race / sex commits the highest level of violent crimes as compared to its percentage of the population
2. What combination of race / sex commits the highest number of hate crimes as compared to its percentage of the population

I know you can't answer, but your dumb****ery is amusing.
We all know the answer will be Black Male, im not sure what you hope to gain from this pointless endeavour, unless you think that because Black Men are statistically more likely to commit Violent crimes, that gives you the right to view all Black Men with suspicion and shoot them if they happen to come to your door?
So you never let the odds impact the decisions in your life?
sure, if i were a betting man i might be more inclined to back the odds on favourite, i wouldnt be more inclined to kill someone purely based on their race though, sorry if that makes me "woke"
I'm the English Guy
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cms186 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
For a guy that hates guns, you sure seem to have no trouble with someone threatening a citizen with an AR-15.

Neely was arrested 42 times. He should not have been on the streets. He is now in a better place. Not here. Everybody wins. Citizens are safer and I'm sure Neely's family will win the Ghetto Lotto!
That's where you are wrong, but surely there's at least one level between "not having a problem" with someone doing something and being fine with that guy being gunned down in the street?

Can we not say yeah, these 2 people shouldn't have been doing what they were doing, but maybe they didn't deserve to be executed for doing it?


If you are an individual that threatens someone else's life, you should fully expect that you might very possibly lose your life. Plain and simple. This also applies to the mentally unstable. Treat people respectfully and obey the law, chances are you will be just fine. Civilization 101.
No, if you make threats then you should expect to be arrested and detained for making those threats, you should not expect to be killed, doubly so if you are mentally ill, breaking the law should not automatically mean your life is in danger, especially if you are not endangering someone elses life.
Nice theory you have. Does not work well in the real world, however.
It works pretty well in countries where some people don't think an appropriate response to someone knocking on your door is to blow them away with a gun
So, imaginary scenario because facts don't work for you.
Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
This is a request for facts and data, so we know you will not respond, but I'm going to ask anyway just to give you another chance to demonstrate what a clueless dumb**** you are.
1. What combination of race / sex commits the highest level of violent crimes as compared to its percentage of the population
2. What combination of race / sex commits the highest number of hate crimes as compared to its percentage of the population

I know you can't answer, but your dumb****ery is amusing.
We all know the answer will be Black Male,
That realization speaks volumes.
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cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
For a guy that hates guns, you sure seem to have no trouble with someone threatening a citizen with an AR-15.

Neely was arrested 42 times. He should not have been on the streets. He is now in a better place. Not here. Everybody wins. Citizens are safer and I'm sure Neely's family will win the Ghetto Lotto!
That's where you are wrong, but surely there's at least one level between "not having a problem" with someone doing something and being fine with that guy being gunned down in the street?

Can we not say yeah, these 2 people shouldn't have been doing what they were doing, but maybe they didn't deserve to be executed for doing it?


If you are an individual that threatens someone else's life, you should fully expect that you might very possibly lose your life. Plain and simple. This also applies to the mentally unstable. Treat people respectfully and obey the law, chances are you will be just fine. Civilization 101.
No, if you make threats then you should expect to be arrested and detained for making those threats, you should not expect to be killed, doubly so if you are mentally ill, breaking the law should not automatically mean your life is in danger, especially if you are not endangering someone elses life.
Nice theory you have. Does not work well in the real world, however.
It works pretty well in countries where some people don't think an appropriate response to someone knocking on your door is to blow them away with a gun
So, imaginary scenario because facts don't work for you.
Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
Ahhh, you have been listening to scary tales from the Left again.

As I noted, facts don't work for you.
Oh, so these people didnt die and the Communist Left has made the stories up? well, why hasn't this been pointed out sooner? quick, lets get the proof you have that these things never happened and lets illuminate the world to this Marxist conspiracy!!
Put down the crack pipe before posting again, cms. Your inane spewage is amusing to a degree but makes you look the fool.
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cms186 said:

whiterock said:

cms186 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
For a guy that hates guns, you sure seem to have no trouble with someone threatening a citizen with an AR-15.

Neely was arrested 42 times. He should not have been on the streets. He is now in a better place. Not here. Everybody wins. Citizens are safer and I'm sure Neely's family will win the Ghetto Lotto!
That's where you are wrong, but surely there's at least one level between "not having a problem" with someone doing something and being fine with that guy being gunned down in the street?

Can we not say yeah, these 2 people shouldn't have been doing what they were doing, but maybe they didn't deserve to be executed for doing it?


If you are an individual that threatens someone else's life, you should fully expect that you might very possibly lose your life. Plain and simple. This also applies to the mentally unstable. Treat people respectfully and obey the law, chances are you will be just fine. Civilization 101.
No, if you make threats then you should expect to be arrested and detained for making those threats, you should not expect to be killed, doubly so if you are mentally ill, breaking the law should not automatically mean your life is in danger, especially if you are not endangering someone elses life.
Nice theory you have. Does not work well in the real world, however.
It works pretty well in countries where some people don't think an appropriate response to someone knocking on your door is to blow them away with a gun
So, imaginary scenario because facts don't work for you.
Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
This is a request for facts and data, so we know you will not respond, but I'm going to ask anyway just to give you another chance to demonstrate what a clueless dumb**** you are.
1. What combination of race / sex commits the highest level of violent crimes as compared to its percentage of the population
2. What combination of race / sex commits the highest number of hate crimes as compared to its percentage of the population

I know you can't answer, but your dumb****ery is amusing.
We all know the answer will be Black Male, im not sure what you hope to gain from this pointless endeavour, unless you think that because Black Men are statistically more likely to commit Violent crimes, that gives you the right to view all Black Men with suspicion and shoot them if they happen to come to your door?
So you never let the odds impact the decisions in your life?
sure, if i were a betting man i might be more inclined to back the odds on favourite, i wouldnt be more inclined to kill someone purely based on their race though, sorry if that makes me "woke"
Where is your proof that race was even a factor in the incident? Just because you are racist, does not mean everyeone else is as well.
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cms186 said:

whiterock said:

cms186 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
For a guy that hates guns, you sure seem to have no trouble with someone threatening a citizen with an AR-15.

Neely was arrested 42 times. He should not have been on the streets. He is now in a better place. Not here. Everybody wins. Citizens are safer and I'm sure Neely's family will win the Ghetto Lotto!
That's where you are wrong, but surely there's at least one level between "not having a problem" with someone doing something and being fine with that guy being gunned down in the street?

Can we not say yeah, these 2 people shouldn't have been doing what they were doing, but maybe they didn't deserve to be executed for doing it?


If you are an individual that threatens someone else's life, you should fully expect that you might very possibly lose your life. Plain and simple. This also applies to the mentally unstable. Treat people respectfully and obey the law, chances are you will be just fine. Civilization 101.
No, if you make threats then you should expect to be arrested and detained for making those threats, you should not expect to be killed, doubly so if you are mentally ill, breaking the law should not automatically mean your life is in danger, especially if you are not endangering someone elses life.
Nice theory you have. Does not work well in the real world, however.
It works pretty well in countries where some people don't think an appropriate response to someone knocking on your door is to blow them away with a gun
So, imaginary scenario because facts don't work for you.
Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
This is a request for facts and data, so we know you will not respond, but I'm going to ask anyway just to give you another chance to demonstrate what a clueless dumb**** you are.
1. What combination of race / sex commits the highest level of violent crimes as compared to its percentage of the population
2. What combination of race / sex commits the highest number of hate crimes as compared to its percentage of the population

I know you can't answer, but your dumb****ery is amusing.
We all know the answer will be Black Male, im not sure what you hope to gain from this pointless endeavour, unless you think that because Black Men are statistically more likely to commit Violent crimes, that gives you the right to view all Black Men with suspicion and shoot them if they happen to come to your door?
So you never let the odds impact the decisions in your life?
sure, if i were a betting man i might be more inclined to back the odds on favourite, i wouldnt be more inclined to kill someone purely based on their race though, sorry if that makes me "woke"
So when you see a snake, your first reaction is always completely deliberate and objective and the adrenaline only kicks in when you see that it's poisonous?
cms186
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whiterock said:

cms186 said:

whiterock said:

cms186 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

cms186 said:



Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
This is a request for facts and data, so we know you will not respond, but I'm going to ask anyway just to give you another chance to demonstrate what a clueless dumb**** you are.
1. What combination of race / sex commits the highest level of violent crimes as compared to its percentage of the population
2. What combination of race / sex commits the highest number of hate crimes as compared to its percentage of the population

I know you can't answer, but your dumb****ery is amusing.
We all know the answer will be Black Male, im not sure what you hope to gain from this pointless endeavour, unless you think that because Black Men are statistically more likely to commit Violent crimes, that gives you the right to view all Black Men with suspicion and shoot them if they happen to come to your door?
So you never let the odds impact the decisions in your life?
sure, if i were a betting man i might be more inclined to back the odds on favourite, i wouldnt be more inclined to kill someone purely based on their race though, sorry if that makes me "woke"
So when you see a snake, your first reaction is always completely deliberate and objective and the adrenaline only kicks in when you see that it's poisonous?
No Snakes are Poisonous and your comparison is false because Snakes are a completely different species, I gain no benefit from interacting with a snake. My reaction, should i see one (which i dont, because Snakes are fortunately rare in the UK) I would turn the other direction and walk away, not shoot it.

If a Black person (or indeed, any person) comes to my house, unless they are being openly hostile and violent, my first reaction is to greet them at my door and ask how I can help them.
I'm the English Guy
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Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

whiterock said:

cms186 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:


Nice theory you have. Does not work well in the real world, however.
It works pretty well in countries where some people don't think an appropriate response to someone knocking on your door is to blow them away with a gun
So, imaginary scenario because facts don't work for you.
Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
This is a request for facts and data, so we know you will not respond, but I'm going to ask anyway just to give you another chance to demonstrate what a clueless dumb**** you are.
1. What combination of race / sex commits the highest level of violent crimes as compared to its percentage of the population
2. What combination of race / sex commits the highest number of hate crimes as compared to its percentage of the population

I know you can't answer, but your dumb****ery is amusing.
We all know the answer will be Black Male, im not sure what you hope to gain from this pointless endeavour, unless you think that because Black Men are statistically more likely to commit Violent crimes, that gives you the right to view all Black Men with suspicion and shoot them if they happen to come to your door?
So you never let the odds impact the decisions in your life?
sure, if i were a betting man i might be more inclined to back the odds on favourite, i wouldnt be more inclined to kill someone purely based on their race though, sorry if that makes me "woke"
Where is your proof that race was even a factor in the incident? Just because you are racist, does not mean everyeone else is as well.
Please point to where i said Race was a factor, i didnt, i didnt bring up race.
I'm the English Guy
cms186
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Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
For a guy that hates guns, you sure seem to have no trouble with someone threatening a citizen with an AR-15.

Neely was arrested 42 times. He should not have been on the streets. He is now in a better place. Not here. Everybody wins. Citizens are safer and I'm sure Neely's family will win the Ghetto Lotto!
That's where you are wrong, but surely there's at least one level between "not having a problem" with someone doing something and being fine with that guy being gunned down in the street?

Can we not say yeah, these 2 people shouldn't have been doing what they were doing, but maybe they didn't deserve to be executed for doing it?


If you are an individual that threatens someone else's life, you should fully expect that you might very possibly lose your life. Plain and simple. This also applies to the mentally unstable. Treat people respectfully and obey the law, chances are you will be just fine. Civilization 101.
No, if you make threats then you should expect to be arrested and detained for making those threats, you should not expect to be killed, doubly so if you are mentally ill, breaking the law should not automatically mean your life is in danger, especially if you are not endangering someone elses life.
Nice theory you have. Does not work well in the real world, however.
It works pretty well in countries where some people don't think an appropriate response to someone knocking on your door is to blow them away with a gun
So, imaginary scenario because facts don't work for you.
Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
Ahhh, you have been listening to scary tales from the Left again.

As I noted, facts don't work for you.
Oh, so these people didnt die and the Communist Left has made the stories up? well, why hasn't this been pointed out sooner? quick, lets get the proof you have that these things never happened and lets illuminate the world to this Marxist conspiracy!!
Put down the crack pipe before posting again, cms. Your inane spewage is amusing to a degree but makes you look the fool.
i was merely asking you to show me the evidence that the news stories i posted links to are fabricated, you said "Facts dont work for me" so clearly you dont think they are factual stories, or did i misinterpret you?
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cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

whiterock said:

cms186 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:


Nice theory you have. Does not work well in the real world, however.
It works pretty well in countries where some people don't think an appropriate response to someone knocking on your door is to blow them away with a gun
So, imaginary scenario because facts don't work for you.
Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
This is a request for facts and data, so we know you will not respond, but I'm going to ask anyway just to give you another chance to demonstrate what a clueless dumb**** you are.
1. What combination of race / sex commits the highest level of violent crimes as compared to its percentage of the population
2. What combination of race / sex commits the highest number of hate crimes as compared to its percentage of the population

I know you can't answer, but your dumb****ery is amusing.
We all know the answer will be Black Male, im not sure what you hope to gain from this pointless endeavour, unless you think that because Black Men are statistically more likely to commit Violent crimes, that gives you the right to view all Black Men with suspicion and shoot them if they happen to come to your door?
So you never let the odds impact the decisions in your life?
sure, if i were a betting man i might be more inclined to back the odds on favourite, i wouldnt be more inclined to kill someone purely based on their race though, sorry if that makes me "woke"
Where is your proof that race was even a factor in the incident? Just because you are racist, does not mean everyeone else is as well.
Please point to where i said Race was a factor, i didnt, i didnt bring up race.
Oh yes you did.
Oldbear83
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cms: " I gain no benefit from interacting with a snake."

Most people know that, yet Progressives keep getting elected anyway.
cms186
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Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

whiterock said:

cms186 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:


Nice theory you have. Does not work well in the real world, however.
It works pretty well in countries where some people don't think an appropriate response to someone knocking on your door is to blow them away with a gun
So, imaginary scenario because facts don't work for you.
Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
This is a request for facts and data, so we know you will not respond, but I'm going to ask anyway just to give you another chance to demonstrate what a clueless dumb**** you are.
1. What combination of race / sex commits the highest level of violent crimes as compared to its percentage of the population
2. What combination of race / sex commits the highest number of hate crimes as compared to its percentage of the population

I know you can't answer, but your dumb****ery is amusing.
We all know the answer will be Black Male, im not sure what you hope to gain from this pointless endeavour, unless you think that because Black Men are statistically more likely to commit Violent crimes, that gives you the right to view all Black Men with suspicion and shoot them if they happen to come to your door?
So you never let the odds impact the decisions in your life?
sure, if i were a betting man i might be more inclined to back the odds on favourite, i wouldnt be more inclined to kill someone purely based on their race though, sorry if that makes me "woke"
Where is your proof that race was even a factor in the incident? Just because you are racist, does not mean everyeone else is as well.
Please point to where i said Race was a factor, i didnt, i didnt bring up race.
Oh yes you did.
no, Harrison Bergeron did with this post: https://sicem365.com/forums/7/topics/122564/replies/3255904 before then, i did not mention race, please prove me wrong.
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cms186 said:

whiterock said:

cms186 said:

whiterock said:

cms186 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

cms186 said:



Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
This is a request for facts and data, so we know you will not respond, but I'm going to ask anyway just to give you another chance to demonstrate what a clueless dumb**** you are.
1. What combination of race / sex commits the highest level of violent crimes as compared to its percentage of the population
2. What combination of race / sex commits the highest number of hate crimes as compared to its percentage of the population

I know you can't answer, but your dumb****ery is amusing.
We all know the answer will be Black Male, im not sure what you hope to gain from this pointless endeavour, unless you think that because Black Men are statistically more likely to commit Violent crimes, that gives you the right to view all Black Men with suspicion and shoot them if they happen to come to your door?
So you never let the odds impact the decisions in your life?
sure, if i were a betting man i might be more inclined to back the odds on favourite, i wouldnt be more inclined to kill someone purely based on their race though, sorry if that makes me "woke"
So when you see a snake, your first reaction is always completely deliberate and objective and the adrenaline only kicks in when you see that it's poisonous?
No Snakes are Poisonous and your comparison is false because Snakes are a completely different species, I gain no benefit from interacting with a snake. My reaction, should i see one (which i dont, because Snakes are fortunately rare in the UK) I would turn the other direction and walk away, not shoot it.

If a Black person (or indeed, any person) comes to my house, unless they are being openly hostile and violent, my first reaction is to greet them at my door and ask how I can help them.
no, it's a perfect comparison. SOME snakes are poisonous. Most are not. Same with people.

The difference here is that you establish yourself as perfectly capable of making that determination correctly every time, yet blame racism when others don't.

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whiterock said:

cms186 said:

whiterock said:

cms186 said:

whiterock said:

cms186 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

cms186 said:



Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
This is a request for facts and data, so we know you will not respond, but I'm going to ask anyway just to give you another chance to demonstrate what a clueless dumb**** you are.
1. What combination of race / sex commits the highest level of violent crimes as compared to its percentage of the population
2. What combination of race / sex commits the highest number of hate crimes as compared to its percentage of the population

I know you can't answer, but your dumb****ery is amusing.
We all know the answer will be Black Male, im not sure what you hope to gain from this pointless endeavour, unless you think that because Black Men are statistically more likely to commit Violent crimes, that gives you the right to view all Black Men with suspicion and shoot them if they happen to come to your door?
So you never let the odds impact the decisions in your life?
sure, if i were a betting man i might be more inclined to back the odds on favourite, i wouldnt be more inclined to kill someone purely based on their race though, sorry if that makes me "woke"
So when you see a snake, your first reaction is always completely deliberate and objective and the adrenaline only kicks in when you see that it's poisonous?
No Snakes are Poisonous and your comparison is false because Snakes are a completely different species, I gain no benefit from interacting with a snake. My reaction, should i see one (which i dont, because Snakes are fortunately rare in the UK) I would turn the other direction and walk away, not shoot it.

If a Black person (or indeed, any person) comes to my house, unless they are being openly hostile and violent, my first reaction is to greet them at my door and ask how I can help them.
no, it's a perfect comparison. SOME snakes are poisonous. Most are not. Same with people.

The difference here is that you establish yourself as perfectly capable of making that determination correctly every time, yet blame racism when others don't.


His point was that no snakes are poisonous, but many are venomous.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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Wangchung said:

whiterock said:

cms186 said:

whiterock said:

cms186 said:

whiterock said:

cms186 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

cms186 said:



Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
This is a request for facts and data, so we know you will not respond, but I'm going to ask anyway just to give you another chance to demonstrate what a clueless dumb**** you are.
1. What combination of race / sex commits the highest level of violent crimes as compared to its percentage of the population
2. What combination of race / sex commits the highest number of hate crimes as compared to its percentage of the population

I know you can't answer, but your dumb****ery is amusing.
We all know the answer will be Black Male, im not sure what you hope to gain from this pointless endeavour, unless you think that because Black Men are statistically more likely to commit Violent crimes, that gives you the right to view all Black Men with suspicion and shoot them if they happen to come to your door?
So you never let the odds impact the decisions in your life?
sure, if i were a betting man i might be more inclined to back the odds on favourite, i wouldnt be more inclined to kill someone purely based on their race though, sorry if that makes me "woke"
So when you see a snake, your first reaction is always completely deliberate and objective and the adrenaline only kicks in when you see that it's poisonous?
No Snakes are Poisonous and your comparison is false because Snakes are a completely different species, I gain no benefit from interacting with a snake. My reaction, should i see one (which i dont, because Snakes are fortunately rare in the UK) I would turn the other direction and walk away, not shoot it.

If a Black person (or indeed, any person) comes to my house, unless they are being openly hostile and violent, my first reaction is to greet them at my door and ask how I can help them.
no, it's a perfect comparison. SOME snakes are poisonous. Most are not. Same with people.

The difference here is that you establish yourself as perfectly capable of making that determination correctly every time, yet blame racism when others don't.


His point was that no snakes are poisonous, but many are venomous.
they may be venomous in the textbooks, but here on the farm they have for generations been known as "poisonous."

Guess it's a southern thing a Brit wouldn't understand.
cms186
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whiterock said:

Wangchung said:

whiterock said:

cms186 said:

whiterock said:

cms186 said:

whiterock said:

cms186 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

cms186 said:



Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
This is a request for facts and data, so we know you will not respond, but I'm going to ask anyway just to give you another chance to demonstrate what a clueless dumb**** you are.
1. What combination of race / sex commits the highest level of violent crimes as compared to its percentage of the population
2. What combination of race / sex commits the highest number of hate crimes as compared to its percentage of the population

I know you can't answer, but your dumb****ery is amusing.
We all know the answer will be Black Male, im not sure what you hope to gain from this pointless endeavour, unless you think that because Black Men are statistically more likely to commit Violent crimes, that gives you the right to view all Black Men with suspicion and shoot them if they happen to come to your door?
So you never let the odds impact the decisions in your life?
sure, if i were a betting man i might be more inclined to back the odds on favourite, i wouldnt be more inclined to kill someone purely based on their race though, sorry if that makes me "woke"
So when you see a snake, your first reaction is always completely deliberate and objective and the adrenaline only kicks in when you see that it's poisonous?
No Snakes are Poisonous and your comparison is false because Snakes are a completely different species, I gain no benefit from interacting with a snake. My reaction, should i see one (which i dont, because Snakes are fortunately rare in the UK) I would turn the other direction and walk away, not shoot it.

If a Black person (or indeed, any person) comes to my house, unless they are being openly hostile and violent, my first reaction is to greet them at my door and ask how I can help them.
no, it's a perfect comparison. SOME snakes are poisonous. Most are not. Same with people.

The difference here is that you establish yourself as perfectly capable of making that determination correctly every time, yet blame racism when others don't.


His point was that no snakes are poisonous, but many are venomous.
they may be venomous in the textbooks, but here on the farm they have for generations been known as "poisonous."

Guess it's a southern thing a Brit wouldn't understand.
I was just being pedantic, but i didnt bring race into this argument
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cms186 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

Oldbear83 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cms186 said:

For a group of people claiming to be Pro-Life, you sure seem to approve of people being killed for the slightest thing, Neely, ok, he might have deserved to have been in Jail for previous crimes, but i thought you guys believed in freedom of speech? surely you shouldnt get to kill someone and walk away Scott free just because the person you killed was mouthing off on a subway?
For a guy that hates guns, you sure seem to have no trouble with someone threatening a citizen with an AR-15.

Neely was arrested 42 times. He should not have been on the streets. He is now in a better place. Not here. Everybody wins. Citizens are safer and I'm sure Neely's family will win the Ghetto Lotto!
That's where you are wrong, but surely there's at least one level between "not having a problem" with someone doing something and being fine with that guy being gunned down in the street?

Can we not say yeah, these 2 people shouldn't have been doing what they were doing, but maybe they didn't deserve to be executed for doing it?


If you are an individual that threatens someone else's life, you should fully expect that you might very possibly lose your life. Plain and simple. This also applies to the mentally unstable. Treat people respectfully and obey the law, chances are you will be just fine. Civilization 101.
No, if you make threats then you should expect to be arrested and detained for making those threats, you should not expect to be killed, doubly so if you are mentally ill, breaking the law should not automatically mean your life is in danger, especially if you are not endangering someone elses life.
Nice theory you have. Does not work well in the real world, however.
It works pretty well in countries where some people don't think an appropriate response to someone knocking on your door is to blow them away with a gun
So, imaginary scenario because facts don't work for you.
Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
This is a request for facts and data, so we know you will not respond, but I'm going to ask anyway just to give you another chance to demonstrate what a clueless dumb**** you are.
1. What combination of race / sex commits the highest level of violent crimes as compared to its percentage of the population
2. What combination of race / sex commits the highest number of hate crimes as compared to its percentage of the population

I know you can't answer, but your dumb****ery is amusing.
We all know the answer will be Black Male, im not sure what you hope to gain from this pointless endeavour, unless you think that because Black Men are statistically more likely to commit Violent crimes, that gives you the right to view all Black Men with suspicion and shoot them if they happen to come to your door?
Look who took at statistics class.

Correct. You're more likely to be violently attacked by a black man than any other type of person, so take appropriate precaustions. Maybe you're not as stupid as you seem.
cms186
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Harrison Bergeron said:

cms186 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

cms186 said:


Im afraid not:

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/ajike-aj-owens-florida-shot-what-we-know/index.html

https://news.sky.com/story/ralph-yarl-84-year-old-white-man-andrew-lester-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-black-teen-who-knocked-on-wrong-door-12861323

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/19/why-are-americans-being-shot-for-knocking-on-the-wrong-door
This is a request for facts and data, so we know you will not respond, but I'm going to ask anyway just to give you another chance to demonstrate what a clueless dumb**** you are.
1. What combination of race / sex commits the highest level of violent crimes as compared to its percentage of the population
2. What combination of race / sex commits the highest number of hate crimes as compared to its percentage of the population

I know you can't answer, but your dumb****ery is amusing.
We all know the answer will be Black Male, im not sure what you hope to gain from this pointless endeavour, unless you think that because Black Men are statistically more likely to commit Violent crimes, that gives you the right to view all Black Men with suspicion and shoot them if they happen to come to your door?
Look who took at statistics class.

Correct. You're more likely to be violently attacked by a black man than any other type of person, so take appropriate precaustions. Maybe you're not as stupid as you seem.
Precautions such as what? Seeing a Black Guy in the street and thinking hes a criminal, just because Black people commit a higher number of Violent Crimes compared to their % of the population is racist, in the same way as thinking every Muslim is a terrorist is Islamophobic. If you want to live like that, feel free, but its not a Christian way to live.
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