RMF5630 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Prove it!

The reason you guys say Biden couldn't get that many votes is because he couldn't get that many votes

Do you see the logic flaw?

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The official 2020 election has Biden at 81 million.. nothing has changed that

Keep *****ing and act like it is a fake number, be prepared for 4 more years of Biden and Trumpeters *****ing.

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Yep

All Trump All the Time logic. It didn't happen because it couldn't happen

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I am a bit concerned that the GOP is getting very "Damn the torpedos" mentality.

RDS is showing that with Disney now. There comes a point in every clash that you van get what you want, while giving at the same time. RDS has reached that point with Disney, there was a back and forth. Disney showed their teeth, RDS showed his, now come to a compromise and move forward. Don't allow a positive to go negative. Not seeing logic of more...

GOP, including Trump, got that way. Going to work against Party in a General.

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Agreed

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haha, no way Biden got that many real votes


Conservatives keep saying that. Yet, no evidence that has held up. In addition, anyone that has pushed that has lost or had to settle, see Fox.

Until there is some defendable action by a commission, court, IG, GAO or someone outside of GOP world that the 2020 election was rigged GOP better go forward assuming Biden got those votes.

Run Trump be prepared for Dems to get 81illion...

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There is a ton of evidence. You and the media choose to ignore it.

Osodecentx said:

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RMF5630 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Prove it!

The reason you guys say Biden couldn't get that many votes is because he couldn't get that many votes

Do you see the logic flaw?

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The official 2020 election has Biden at 81 million.. nothing has changed that

Keep *****ing and act like it is a fake number, be prepared for 4 more years of Biden and Trumpeters *****ing.

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Yep

All Trump All the Time logic. It didn't happen because it couldn't happen

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It didn't. Until we can secure our elections, dems will keep counting (finding votes) until they win.

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RMF5630 said:

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haha, no way Biden got that many real votes


Conservatives keep saying that. Yet, no evidence that has held up. In addition, anyone that has pushed that has lost or had to settle, see Fox.

Until there is some defendable action by a commission, court, IG, GAO or someone outside of GOP world that the 2020 election was rigged GOP better go forward assuming Biden got those votes.

Run Trump be prepared for Dems to get 81illion...

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There is a ton of evidence. You and the media choose to ignore it.

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We keep going through the same exercise, I am not saying you are wrong. I am saying is that nothing has held up in an investigation or court. That hurts your argument. You can call it evidence all you or I want, if no Court will recognize it or it doesn't stand up, it is not evidence. There has not been anything that moved the needle.

Here is the breakdown



Trump's judicial campaign to upend the 2020 election: A failure, but not a wipe-out (brookings.edu)

The only thing I have found that says what you are saying is some far right story that cherry picks to get their results. Even if correct, nobody is listening to them. It is really a dead issue and will be less as 2024 gets here. A waste of energy at this point. But, if interested try this site. Ohio St has a case tracker, whether or not you believe the source is up to you.

Major Pending Election Cases | Case Tracker (osu.edu)

Watch 2000 mules.

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Watch 2000 mules.

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Why? That nonsense got roundly debunked.

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Yes, it did

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quash said:

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Ghostrider said:

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Watch 2000 mules.

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Why? That nonsense got roundly debunked.

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Yes, it did

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Gonna believe what they want to believe, regardless of evidence.

FLBear5630 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Watch 2000 mules.

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Why? That nonsense got roundly debunked.

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Yes, it did

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Gonna believe what they want to believe, regardless of evidence.

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When the evidence of election fraud is provided by someone convicted of election fraud, when the much claimed technology doesn't do remotely what the movie claims it does, when claims of help in criminal investigations are refuted by every investigative body cited, yeah, I am a bit skeptical of this one.

TWD 1974 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Watch 2000 mules.

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Why? That nonsense got roundly debunked.

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Yes, it did

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Gonna believe what they want to believe, regardless of evidence.

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When the evidence of election fraud is provided by someone convicted of election fraud, when the much claimed technology doesn't do remotely what the movie claims it does, when claims of help in criminal investigations are refuted by every investigative body cited, yeah, I am a bit skeptical of this one.

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When it meets the standards of Court, I will believe it. Right now it doesn't.

Osodecentx said:

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Watch 2000 mules.

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Why? That nonsense got roundly debunked.

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Yes, it did

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By who

Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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RMF5630 said:

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haha, no way Biden got that many real votes


Conservatives keep saying that. Yet, no evidence that has held up. In addition, anyone that has pushed that has lost or had to settle, see Fox.

Until there is some defendable action by a commission, court, IG, GAO or someone outside of GOP world that the 2020 election was rigged GOP better go forward assuming Biden got those votes.

Run Trump be prepared for Dems to get 81illion...

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There is a ton of evidence. You and the media choose to ignore it.

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The media is not the issue. No court of law saw any evidence of vote tampering or massive fraud.

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Why do you use the term "massive fraud"? Because you know there was fraud? No one knows to what degree though. What is considered massive? 1000 votes? 100k? 1mm?

Ghostrider said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Ghostrider said:

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Watch 2000 mules.

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Why? That nonsense got roundly debunked.

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Yes, it did

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By whom?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Mules

2000 Mules is a 2022 American conspiracist political film from right-wing political commentator Dinesh D'Souza. The film falsely claims unnamed nonprofit organizations supposedly associated with the Democratic Party paid "mules" to illegally collect and deposit ballots into drop boxes in the swing states of Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin during the 2020 presidential election. D'Souza has a history of creating and spreading false conspiracy theories.
The Associated Press (AP) reported that the film relies on "faulty assumptions, anonymous accounts and improper analysis of cellphone location data" provided by conservative[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Mules#cite_note-11][11][/url] non-profit True the Vote.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Mules#cite_note-Swenson_5/3/2022-7][7][/url]FactCheck.org found the film's "supposed evidence is speculative. National Public Radio (NPR) reported True the Vote "made multiple misleading or false claims about its [own] work". AP reported that the assertion that True the Vote identified 1,155 paid mules in Philadelphia alone was false. The film presented a single unverified anonymous witness who said she saw people picking up what she "assumed" were payments for ballot collection in Arizona; no evidence of such payments was presented in any of the other four states.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Mules#cite_note-Swenson_5/3/2022-7][7][/url] The film characterizes the alleged operation as "ballot trafficking" with "stash houses", but presents no evidence that ballots were illegally collected to be deposited in drop boxes

Ghostrider said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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RMF5630 said:

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haha, no way Biden got that many real votes


Conservatives keep saying that. Yet, no evidence that has held up. In addition, anyone that has pushed that has lost or had to settle, see Fox.

Until there is some defendable action by a commission, court, IG, GAO or someone outside of GOP world that the 2020 election was rigged GOP better go forward assuming Biden got those votes.

Run Trump be prepared for Dems to get 81illion...

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There is a ton of evidence. You and the media choose to ignore it.

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The media is not the issue. No court of law saw any evidence of vote tampering or massive fraud.

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Why do you use the term "massive fraud"? Because you know there was fraud? No one knows to what degree though. What is considered massive? 1000 votes? 100k? 1mm?

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Again, if it was massive than where is the evidence.

TWD 1974 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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RMF5630 said:

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haha, no way Biden got that many real votes


Conservatives keep saying that. Yet, no evidence that has held up. In addition, anyone that has pushed that has lost or had to settle, see Fox.

Until there is some defendable action by a commission, court, IG, GAO or someone outside of GOP world that the 2020 election was rigged GOP better go forward assuming Biden got those votes.

Run Trump be prepared for Dems to get 81illion...

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There is a ton of evidence. You and the media choose to ignore it.

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The media is not the issue. No court of law saw any evidence of vote tampering or massive fraud.

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Why do you use the term "massive fraud"? Because you know there was fraud? No one knows to what degree though. What is considered massive? 1000 votes? 100k? 1mm?

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Again, if it was massive than where is the evidence.

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Republicans have lost the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 Presidential elections. "Of course, it can't be because of bad candidates, or politics, it must be Dems are cheating...except we just can't figure out how they're doing it, ... I mean, how with over 150mm votes cast, they knew to get an extra 12k in GA., 80k in PA....must be the Soros voting machines are connected to a time machine! That's it. Call Rudy, we got it figured now..."

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Naive and clueless. Just speak the truth. An individual American vote means nothing in 2023. It is what it is. I have come to grips with that. My happiness in my last thirty years of life will not depend on who Democrats put in the Oval Office. My family is going to adjust, cope, and survive.

TWD 1974 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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RMF5630 said:

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haha, no way Biden got that many real votes


Conservatives keep saying that. Yet, no evidence that has held up. In addition, anyone that has pushed that has lost or had to settle, see Fox.

Until there is some defendable action by a commission, court, IG, GAO or someone outside of GOP world that the 2020 election was rigged GOP better go forward assuming Biden got those votes.

Run Trump be prepared for Dems to get 81illion...

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There is a ton of evidence. You and the media choose to ignore it.

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The media is not the issue. No court of law saw any evidence of vote tampering or massive fraud.

---

Why do you use the term "massive fraud"? Because you know there was fraud? No one knows to what degree though. What is considered massive? 1000 votes? 100k? 1mm?

---

Again, if it was massive than where is the evidence.

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Republicans have lost the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 Presidential elections. "Of course, it can't be because of bad candidates, or politics, it must be Dems are cheating...except we just can't figure out how they're doing it, ... I mean, how with over 150mm votes cast, they knew to get an extra 12k in GA., 80k in PA....must be the Soros voting machines are connected to a time machine! That's it. Call Rudy, we got it figured now..."

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all the swings stopped in the middle of the night amd suddenly in the morning, the votes were there.. mathmatically improbable vote tallys at the batch level.. 14 separate historic indicators of the winner were all wrong.. historically low rejection rates in areas of need.. 100% registered voter to ballot ratio in several districts, lots of Biden only ballots, lots of mail in ballots seen with no creases from being mailed.. no counts of envelopes vs ballots.. no signature matching.. failure to follow state legislated election law as required..

It was a shtty election with 2 shtty canidates and we can only hope both sides do better when the time comes..

Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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RMF5630 said:

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haha, no way Biden got that many real votes


Conservatives keep saying that. Yet, no evidence that has held up. In addition, anyone that has pushed that has lost or had to settle, see Fox.

Until there is some defendable action by a commission, court, IG, GAO or someone outside of GOP world that the 2020 election was rigged GOP better go forward assuming Biden got those votes.

Run Trump be prepared for Dems to get 81illion...

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There is a ton of evidence. You and the media choose to ignore it.

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The media is not the issue. No court of law saw any evidence of vote tampering or massive fraud.

---

Why do you use the term "massive fraud"? Because you know there was fraud? No one knows to what degree though. What is considered massive? 1000 votes? 100k? 1mm?

---

Again, if it was massive than where is the evidence.

---

Republicans have lost the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 Presidential elections. "Of course, it can't be because of bad candidates, or politics, it must be Dems are cheating...except we just can't figure out how they're doing it, ... I mean, how with over 150mm votes cast, they knew to get an extra 12k in GA., 80k in PA....must be the Soros voting machines are connected to a time machine! That's it. Call Rudy, we got it figured now..."

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all the swings stopped in the middle of the night amd suddenly in the morning, the votes were there.. mathmatically improbable vote tallys at the batch level.. 14 separate historic indicators of the winner were all wrong.. historically low rejection rates in areas of need.. 100% registered voter to ballot ratio in several districts, lots of Biden only ballots, lots of mail in ballots seen with no creases from being mailed.. no counts of envelopes vs ballots.. no signature matching.. failure to follow state legislated election law as required..

It was a shtty election with 2 shtty canidates and we can only hope both sides do better when the time comes..

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So much of that has been debunked, but it doesn't matter. As far as many of you are concerned, if democracy isn't working for Trump, democracy isn't working.

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blah blah blah your a trump lover blah blah

Your TDS is showing.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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RMF5630 said:

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haha, no way Biden got that many real votes


Conservatives keep saying that. Yet, no evidence that has held up. In addition, anyone that has pushed that has lost or had to settle, see Fox.

Until there is some defendable action by a commission, court, IG, GAO or someone outside of GOP world that the 2020 election was rigged GOP better go forward assuming Biden got those votes.

Run Trump be prepared for Dems to get 81illion...

---

There is a ton of evidence. You and the media choose to ignore it.

---

The media is not the issue. No court of law saw any evidence of vote tampering or massive fraud.

---

Why do you use the term "massive fraud"? Because you know there was fraud? No one knows to what degree though. What is considered massive? 1000 votes? 100k? 1mm?

---

Again, if it was massive than where is the evidence.

---

Republicans have lost the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 Presidential elections. "Of course, it can't be because of bad candidates, or politics, it must be Dems are cheating...except we just can't figure out how they're doing it, ... I mean, how with over 150mm votes cast, they knew to get an extra 12k in GA., 80k in PA....must be the Soros voting machines are connected to a time machine! That's it. Call Rudy, we got it figured now..."

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Naive and clueless. Just speak the truth. An individual American vote means nothing in 2023. It is what it is. I have come to grips with that. My happiness in my last thirty years of life will not depend on who Democrats put in the Oval Office. My family is going to adjust, cope, and survive.

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I agree with both of you.

My family's future will not be dictated by who is President. No argument.

However, the chism between the haves and have nots is creating a situation where the Conservatives are not going to be able to compete. Issues like Student Loans, Rent/Housing Cost, and others are pushing social conservatives into the Dem box because the Dems are the ones offering help, whether this Board thinks they deserve it or not it is happening.

The sooner we realize that not everyone is as financially disciplined and "did things right" like the Baylor Board group (yes, they all deserve gold stars for life, that is really the purpose of their posts on things like Student Loans and such.) the sooner Conservatives can start coming up with ways to even the playing field. Or, the GOP is done. When Corportate CEOS are getting multi-million dollar bonuses and new grads can't afford an apartment on their wages, something is wrong. I don't see the GOP solving it.

So, I see both sides.

FLBear5630 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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RMF5630 said:

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haha, no way Biden got that many real votes


Conservatives keep saying that. Yet, no evidence that has held up. In addition, anyone that has pushed that has lost or had to settle, see Fox.

Until there is some defendable action by a commission, court, IG, GAO or someone outside of GOP world that the 2020 election was rigged GOP better go forward assuming Biden got those votes.

Run Trump be prepared for Dems to get 81illion...

---

There is a ton of evidence. You and the media choose to ignore it.

---

The media is not the issue. No court of law saw any evidence of vote tampering or massive fraud.

---

Why do you use the term "massive fraud"? Because you know there was fraud? No one knows to what degree though. What is considered massive? 1000 votes? 100k? 1mm?

---

Again, if it was massive than where is the evidence.

---

Republicans have lost the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 Presidential elections. "Of course, it can't be because of bad candidates, or politics, it must be Dems are cheating...except we just can't figure out how they're doing it, ... I mean, how with over 150mm votes cast, they knew to get an extra 12k in GA., 80k in PA....must be the Soros voting machines are connected to a time machine! That's it. Call Rudy, we got it figured now..."

---

Naive and clueless. Just speak the truth. An individual American vote means nothing in 2023. It is what it is. I have come to grips with that. My happiness in my last thirty years of life will not depend on who Democrats put in the Oval Office. My family is going to adjust, cope, and survive.

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I agree with both of you.

My family's future will not be dictated by who is President. No argument.

However, the chism between the haves and have nots is creating a situation where the Conservatives are not going to be able to compete. Issues like Student Loans, Rent/Housing Cost, and others are pushing social conservatives into the Dem box because the Dems are the ones offering help, whether this Board thinks they deserve it or not it is happening.

The sooner we realize that not everyone is as financially disciplined and "did things right" like the Baylor Board group (yes, they all deserve gold stars for life, that is really the purpose of their posts on things like Student Loans and such.) the sooner Conservatives can start coming up with ways to even the playing field. Or, the GOP is done. When Corportate CEOS are getting multi-million dollar bonuses and new grads can't afford an apartment on their wages, something is wrong. I don't see the GOP solving it.

So, I see both sides.

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You are a cliche of a bygone era. Corporate CEOs are not part of the GOP. Neither is Wall Street, finance, equity capital, nor much of "Big Business." If you want to ***** about income inequality, take it to your party because it is the one in bed with big business and, they aren't going to change the rules.

GrowlTowel said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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RMF5630 said:

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haha, no way Biden got that many real votes


Conservatives keep saying that. Yet, no evidence that has held up. In addition, anyone that has pushed that has lost or had to settle, see Fox.

Until there is some defendable action by a commission, court, IG, GAO or someone outside of GOP world that the 2020 election was rigged GOP better go forward assuming Biden got those votes.

Run Trump be prepared for Dems to get 81illion...

---

There is a ton of evidence. You and the media choose to ignore it.

---

The media is not the issue. No court of law saw any evidence of vote tampering or massive fraud.

---

Why do you use the term "massive fraud"? Because you know there was fraud? No one knows to what degree though. What is considered massive? 1000 votes? 100k? 1mm?

---

Again, if it was massive than where is the evidence.

---

Republicans have lost the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 Presidential elections. "Of course, it can't be because of bad candidates, or politics, it must be Dems are cheating...except we just can't figure out how they're doing it, ... I mean, how with over 150mm votes cast, they knew to get an extra 12k in GA., 80k in PA....must be the Soros voting machines are connected to a time machine! That's it. Call Rudy, we got it figured now..."

---

Naive and clueless. Just speak the truth. An individual American vote means nothing in 2023. It is what it is. I have come to grips with that. My happiness in my last thirty years of life will not depend on who Democrats put in the Oval Office. My family is going to adjust, cope, and survive.

---

I agree with both of you.

My family's future will not be dictated by who is President. No argument.

However, the chism between the haves and have nots is creating a situation where the Conservatives are not going to be able to compete. Issues like Student Loans, Rent/Housing Cost, and others are pushing social conservatives into the Dem box because the Dems are the ones offering help, whether this Board thinks they deserve it or not it is happening.

The sooner we realize that not everyone is as financially disciplined and "did things right" like the Baylor Board group (yes, they all deserve gold stars for life, that is really the purpose of their posts on things like Student Loans and such.) the sooner Conservatives can start coming up with ways to even the playing field. Or, the GOP is done. When Corportate CEOS are getting multi-million dollar bonuses and new grads can't afford an apartment on their wages, something is wrong. I don't see the GOP solving it.

So, I see both sides.

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You are a cliche of a bygone era. Corporate CEOs are not part of the GOP. Neither is Wall Street, finance, equity capital, nor much of "Big Business." If you want to ***** about income inequality, take it to your party because it is the one in bed with big business and, they aren't going to change the rules.

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It wasn't meant as part of GOP, it is an issue that impacts day to day life. I was not attributing to a Party. That said, the perception is the Dems are more interested in helping day to day life issues.

4th and Inches said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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RMF5630 said:

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haha, no way Biden got that many real votes


Conservatives keep saying that. Yet, no evidence that has held up. In addition, anyone that has pushed that has lost or had to settle, see Fox.

Until there is some defendable action by a commission, court, IG, GAO or someone outside of GOP world that the 2020 election was rigged GOP better go forward assuming Biden got those votes.

Run Trump be prepared for Dems to get 81illion...

---

There is a ton of evidence. You and the media choose to ignore it.

---

The media is not the issue. No court of law saw any evidence of vote tampering or massive fraud.

---

Why do you use the term "massive fraud"? Because you know there was fraud? No one knows to what degree though. What is considered massive? 1000 votes? 100k? 1mm?

---

Again, if it was massive than where is the evidence.

---

Republicans have lost the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 Presidential elections. "Of course, it can't be because of bad candidates, or politics, it must be Dems are cheating...except we just can't figure out how they're doing it, ... I mean, how with over 150mm votes cast, they knew to get an extra 12k in GA., 80k in PA....must be the Soros voting machines are connected to a time machine! That's it. Call Rudy, we got it figured now..."

---

all the swings stopped in the middle of the night amd suddenly in the morning, the votes were there.. mathmatically improbable vote tallys at the batch level.. 14 separate historic indicators of the winner were all wrong.. historically low rejection rates in areas of need.. 100% registered voter to ballot ratio in several districts, lots of Biden only ballots, lots of mail in ballots seen with no creases from being mailed.. no counts of envelopes vs ballots.. no signature matching.. failure to follow state legislated election law as required..

It was a shtty election with 2 shtty canidates and we can only hope both sides do better when the time comes..

---

So much of that has been debunked, but it doesn't matter. As far as many of you are concerned, if democracy isn't working for Trump, democracy isn't working.

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blah blah blah your a trump lover blah blah

Your TDS is showing.

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Blah blah blah, 14 historic indicators, etc. Just basic misunderstanding of statistical concepts. I won't say what you're showing, but it has six letters and it starts with "yer ass."

Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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4th and Inches said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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RMF5630 said:

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haha, no way Biden got that many real votes


Conservatives keep saying that. Yet, no evidence that has held up. In addition, anyone that has pushed that has lost or had to settle, see Fox.

Until there is some defendable action by a commission, court, IG, GAO or someone outside of GOP world that the 2020 election was rigged GOP better go forward assuming Biden got those votes.

Run Trump be prepared for Dems to get 81illion...

---

There is a ton of evidence. You and the media choose to ignore it.

---

The media is not the issue. No court of law saw any evidence of vote tampering or massive fraud.

---

Why do you use the term "massive fraud"? Because you know there was fraud? No one knows to what degree though. What is considered massive? 1000 votes? 100k? 1mm?

---

Again, if it was massive than where is the evidence.

---

Republicans have lost the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 Presidential elections. "Of course, it can't be because of bad candidates, or politics, it must be Dems are cheating...except we just can't figure out how they're doing it, ... I mean, how with over 150mm votes cast, they knew to get an extra 12k in GA., 80k in PA....must be the Soros voting machines are connected to a time machine! That's it. Call Rudy, we got it figured now..."

---

all the swings stopped in the middle of the night amd suddenly in the morning, the votes were there.. mathmatically improbable vote tallys at the batch level.. 14 separate historic indicators of the winner were all wrong.. historically low rejection rates in areas of need.. 100% registered voter to ballot ratio in several districts, lots of Biden only ballots, lots of mail in ballots seen with no creases from being mailed.. no counts of envelopes vs ballots.. no signature matching.. failure to follow state legislated election law as required..

It was a shtty election with 2 shtty canidates and we can only hope both sides do better when the time comes..

---

So much of that has been debunked, but it doesn't matter. As far as many of you are concerned, if democracy isn't working for Trump, democracy isn't working.

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blah blah blah your a trump lover blah blah

Your TDS is showing.

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Blah blah blah, 14 historic indicators, etc. Just basic misunderstanding of statistical concepts. I won't say what you're showing, but it has six letters and it starts with "yer ass."

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spoken like a lawyer at the bar after he got his ass handed to him in court..

FLBear5630 said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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RMF5630 said:

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haha, no way Biden got that many real votes


Conservatives keep saying that. Yet, no evidence that has held up. In addition, anyone that has pushed that has lost or had to settle, see Fox.

Until there is some defendable action by a commission, court, IG, GAO or someone outside of GOP world that the 2020 election was rigged GOP better go forward assuming Biden got those votes.

Run Trump be prepared for Dems to get 81illion...

---

There is a ton of evidence. You and the media choose to ignore it.

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The media is not the issue. No court of law saw any evidence of vote tampering or massive fraud.

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Why do you use the term "massive fraud"? Because you know there was fraud? No one knows to what degree though. What is considered massive? 1000 votes? 100k? 1mm?

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Again, if it was massive than where is the evidence.

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Republicans have lost the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 Presidential elections. "Of course, it can't be because of bad candidates, or politics, it must be Dems are cheating...except we just can't figure out how they're doing it, ... I mean, how with over 150mm votes cast, they knew to get an extra 12k in GA., 80k in PA....must be the Soros voting machines are connected to a time machine! That's it. Call Rudy, we got it figured now..."

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Naive and clueless. Just speak the truth. An individual American vote means nothing in 2023. It is what it is. I have come to grips with that. My happiness in my last thirty years of life will not depend on who Democrats put in the Oval Office. My family is going to adjust, cope, and survive.

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I agree with both of you.

My family's future will not be dictated by who is President. No argument.

However, the chism between the haves and have nots is creating a situation where the Conservatives are not going to be able to compete. Issues like Student Loans, Rent/Housing Cost, and others are pushing social conservatives into the Dem box because the Dems are the ones offering help, whether this Board thinks they deserve it or not it is happening.

The sooner we realize that not everyone is as financially disciplined and "did things right" like the Baylor Board group (yes, they all deserve gold stars for life, that is really the purpose of their posts on things like Student Loans and such.) the sooner Conservatives can start coming up with ways to even the playing field. Or, the GOP is done. When Corportate CEOS are getting multi-million dollar bonuses and new grads can't afford an apartment on their wages, something is wrong. I don't see the GOP solving it.

So, I see both sides.

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You are a cliche of a bygone era. Corporate CEOs are not part of the GOP. Neither is Wall Street, finance, equity capital, nor much of "Big Business." If you want to ***** about income inequality, take it to your party because it is the one in bed with big business and, they aren't going to change the rules.

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It wasn't meant as part of GOP, it is an issue that impacts day to day life. I was not attributing to a Party. That said, the perception is the Dems are more interested in helping day to day life issues.

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Which is a lie and that perception is no longer controlled by the democrats. Election after election, every day people are moving into the GOP. Yet, the high income earners are all heading left.

Hell the most influential politician regarding the personal debt crisis is none other than President Biden. Thanks to him, millions of Americans are saddled with credit card debt that they cannot get out from under.

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FLBear5630 said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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RMF5630 said:

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haha, no way Biden got that many real votes


Conservatives keep saying that. Yet, no evidence that has held up. In addition, anyone that has pushed that has lost or had to settle, see Fox.

Until there is some defendable action by a commission, court, IG, GAO or someone outside of GOP world that the 2020 election was rigged GOP better go forward assuming Biden got those votes.

Run Trump be prepared for Dems to get 81illion...

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There is a ton of evidence. You and the media choose to ignore it.

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The media is not the issue. No court of law saw any evidence of vote tampering or massive fraud.

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Why do you use the term "massive fraud"? Because you know there was fraud? No one knows to what degree though. What is considered massive? 1000 votes? 100k? 1mm?

---

Again, if it was massive than where is the evidence.

---

Republicans have lost the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 Presidential elections. "Of course, it can't be because of bad candidates, or politics, it must be Dems are cheating...except we just can't figure out how they're doing it, ... I mean, how with over 150mm votes cast, they knew to get an extra 12k in GA., 80k in PA....must be the Soros voting machines are connected to a time machine! That's it. Call Rudy, we got it figured now..."

---

Naive and clueless. Just speak the truth. An individual American vote means nothing in 2023. It is what it is. I have come to grips with that. My happiness in my last thirty years of life will not depend on who Democrats put in the Oval Office. My family is going to adjust, cope, and survive.

---

I agree with both of you.

My family's future will not be dictated by who is President. No argument.

However, the chism between the haves and have nots is creating a situation where the Conservatives are not going to be able to compete. Issues like Student Loans, Rent/Housing Cost, and others are pushing social conservatives into the Dem box because the Dems are the ones offering help, whether this Board thinks they deserve it or not it is happening.

The sooner we realize that not everyone is as financially disciplined and "did things right" like the Baylor Board group (yes, they all deserve gold stars for life, that is really the purpose of their posts on things like Student Loans and such.) the sooner Conservatives can start coming up with ways to even the playing field. Or, the GOP is done. When Corportate CEOS are getting multi-million dollar bonuses and new grads can't afford an apartment on their wages, something is wrong. I don't see the GOP solving it.

So, I see both sides.

---

You are a cliche of a bygone era. Corporate CEOs are not part of the GOP. Neither is Wall Street, finance, equity capital, nor much of "Big Business." If you want to ***** about income inequality, take it to your party because it is the one in bed with big business and, they aren't going to change the rules.

---

It wasn't meant as part of GOP, it is an issue that impacts day to day life. I was not attributing to a Party. That said, the perception is the Dems are more interested in helping day to day life issues.

---

Which is a lie and that perception is no longer controlled by the democrats. Election after election, every day people are moving into the GOP. Yet, the high income earners are all heading left.

Hell the most influential politician regarding the personal debt crisis is none other than President Biden. Thanks to him, millions of Americans are saddled with credit card debt that they cannot get out from under.

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I guess we'll see. Trump lost by a substantial margin, I predict it will be more this time. The GOP is not appealing to the lower income and lower income is more of the population.





Remember the Red Wave, that didn't come... I have heard every excuse as how midterms aren't the same. Basically, from the same people that said the PAC was toast last year, yet here we are Biden is President, PAC still exists, and Red Wave didn't appear. There seems to be a disconnect between what this Board thinks will happen and what actually does.

FLBear5630 said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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RMF5630 said:

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haha, no way Biden got that many real votes


Conservatives keep saying that. Yet, no evidence that has held up. In addition, anyone that has pushed that has lost or had to settle, see Fox.

Until there is some defendable action by a commission, court, IG, GAO or someone outside of GOP world that the 2020 election was rigged GOP better go forward assuming Biden got those votes.

Run Trump be prepared for Dems to get 81illion...

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There is a ton of evidence. You and the media choose to ignore it.

---

The media is not the issue. No court of law saw any evidence of vote tampering or massive fraud.

---

Why do you use the term "massive fraud"? Because you know there was fraud? No one knows to what degree though. What is considered massive? 1000 votes? 100k? 1mm?

---

Again, if it was massive than where is the evidence.

---

Republicans have lost the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 Presidential elections. "Of course, it can't be because of bad candidates, or politics, it must be Dems are cheating...except we just can't figure out how they're doing it, ... I mean, how with over 150mm votes cast, they knew to get an extra 12k in GA., 80k in PA....must be the Soros voting machines are connected to a time machine! That's it. Call Rudy, we got it figured now..."

---

Naive and clueless. Just speak the truth. An individual American vote means nothing in 2023. It is what it is. I have come to grips with that. My happiness in my last thirty years of life will not depend on who Democrats put in the Oval Office. My family is going to adjust, cope, and survive.

---

I agree with both of you.

My family's future will not be dictated by who is President. No argument.

However, the chism between the haves and have nots is creating a situation where the Conservatives are not going to be able to compete. Issues like Student Loans, Rent/Housing Cost, and others are pushing social conservatives into the Dem box because the Dems are the ones offering help, whether this Board thinks they deserve it or not it is happening.

The sooner we realize that not everyone is as financially disciplined and "did things right" like the Baylor Board group (yes, they all deserve gold stars for life, that is really the purpose of their posts on things like Student Loans and such.) the sooner Conservatives can start coming up with ways to even the playing field. Or, the GOP is done. When Corportate CEOS are getting multi-million dollar bonuses and new grads can't afford an apartment on their wages, something is wrong. I don't see the GOP solving it.

So, I see both sides.

---

You are a cliche of a bygone era. Corporate CEOs are not part of the GOP. Neither is Wall Street, finance, equity capital, nor much of "Big Business." If you want to ***** about income inequality, take it to your party because it is the one in bed with big business and, they aren't going to change the rules.

---

It wasn't meant as part of GOP, it is an issue that impacts day to day life. I was not attributing to a Party. That said, the perception is the Dems are more interested in helping day to day life issues.

---

Which is a lie and that perception is no longer controlled by the democrats. Election after election, every day people are moving into the GOP. Yet, the high income earners are all heading left.

Hell the most influential politician regarding the personal debt crisis is none other than President Biden. Thanks to him, millions of Americans are saddled with credit card debt that they cannot get out from under.

---

I guess we'll see. Trump lost by a substantial margin, I predict it will be more this time. The GOP is not appealing to the lower income and lower income is more of the population.





Remember the Red Wave, that didn't come... I have heard every excuse as how midterms aren't the same. Basically, from the same people that said the PAC was toast last year, yet here we are Biden is President, PAC still exists, and Red Wave didn't appear. There seems to be a disconnect between what this Board thinks will happen and what actually does.

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One problem Democrats face is the growing % of independents, particularly in Generation Z and Millennials, where they are over 50% independent. In the 2020 election, 60% of 18-29 year olds went for Biden--dems do as well there as Republicans with white males. Independents have been less reliable in off year elections, which explains in part why some purple states have a republican dominant State Legislature. Georgia is a clear example, where they have 2 democratic Senators and a Republican dominated State officials, legislature. Although, it might help the GOP if they didn't offer candidates who think they are vampires.

TWD 1974 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Ghostrider said:

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RMF5630 said:

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haha, no way Biden got that many real votes


Conservatives keep saying that. Yet, no evidence that has held up. In addition, anyone that has pushed that has lost or had to settle, see Fox.

Until there is some defendable action by a commission, court, IG, GAO or someone outside of GOP world that the 2020 election was rigged GOP better go forward assuming Biden got those votes.

Run Trump be prepared for Dems to get 81illion...

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There is a ton of evidence. You and the media choose to ignore it.

---

The media is not the issue. No court of law saw any evidence of vote tampering or massive fraud.

---

Why do you use the term "massive fraud"? Because you know there was fraud? No one knows to what degree though. What is considered massive? 1000 votes? 100k? 1mm?

---

Again, if it was massive than where is the evidence.

---

Republicans have lost the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 Presidential elections. "Of course, it can't be because of bad candidates, or politics, it must be Dems are cheating...except we just can't figure out how they're doing it, ... I mean, how with over 150mm votes cast, they knew to get an extra 12k in GA., 80k in PA....must be the Soros voting machines are connected to a time machine! That's it. Call Rudy, we got it figured now..."

---

Naive and clueless. Just speak the truth. An individual American vote means nothing in 2023. It is what it is. I have come to grips with that. My happiness in my last thirty years of life will not depend on who Democrats put in the Oval Office. My family is going to adjust, cope, and survive.

---

I agree with both of you.

My family's future will not be dictated by who is President. No argument.

However, the chism between the haves and have nots is creating a situation where the Conservatives are not going to be able to compete. Issues like Student Loans, Rent/Housing Cost, and others are pushing social conservatives into the Dem box because the Dems are the ones offering help, whether this Board thinks they deserve it or not it is happening.

The sooner we realize that not everyone is as financially disciplined and "did things right" like the Baylor Board group (yes, they all deserve gold stars for life, that is really the purpose of their posts on things like Student Loans and such.) the sooner Conservatives can start coming up with ways to even the playing field. Or, the GOP is done. When Corportate CEOS are getting multi-million dollar bonuses and new grads can't afford an apartment on their wages, something is wrong. I don't see the GOP solving it.

So, I see both sides.

---

You are a cliche of a bygone era. Corporate CEOs are not part of the GOP. Neither is Wall Street, finance, equity capital, nor much of "Big Business." If you want to ***** about income inequality, take it to your party because it is the one in bed with big business and, they aren't going to change the rules.

---

It wasn't meant as part of GOP, it is an issue that impacts day to day life. I was not attributing to a Party. That said, the perception is the Dems are more interested in helping day to day life issues.

---

Which is a lie and that perception is no longer controlled by the democrats. Election after election, every day people are moving into the GOP. Yet, the high income earners are all heading left.

Hell the most influential politician regarding the personal debt crisis is none other than President Biden. Thanks to him, millions of Americans are saddled with credit card debt that they cannot get out from under.

---

I guess we'll see. Trump lost by a substantial margin, I predict it will be more this time. The GOP is not appealing to the lower income and lower income is more of the population.





Remember the Red Wave, that didn't come... I have heard every excuse as how midterms aren't the same. Basically, from the same people that said the PAC was toast last year, yet here we are Biden is President, PAC still exists, and Red Wave didn't appear. There seems to be a disconnect between what this Board thinks will happen and what actually does.

---

One problem Democrats face is the growing % of independents, particularly in Generation Z and Millennials, where they are over 50% independent. In the 2020 election, 60% of 18-29 year olds went for Biden--dems do as well there as Republicans with white males. Independents have been less reliable in off year elections, which explains in part why some purple states have a republican dominant State Legislature. Georgia is a clear example, where they have 2 democratic Senators and a Republican dominated State officials, legislature. Although, it might help the GOP if they didn't offer candidates who think they are vampires.

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Ok, I got nothing...

I want my vote to count. I want ease of voting: by mail or drop boxes and early voting..
I want an end to gerrymandering. I live in a district gerrymandered to the GOP. My vote and my voice are powerless. There is no competition to steer candidates away from simply playing to their base.
Americans ought not to feel powerless with their vote. Money and gerrymandering are hurting our republic.

Waco1947 said:

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I want my vote to count. I want ease of voting: by mail or drop boxes and early voting..
I want an end to gerrymandering. I live in a district gerrymandered to the GOP. My vote and my voice are powerless. There is no competition to steer candidates away from simply playing to their base.
Americans ought not to feel powerless with their vote. Money and gerrymandering are hurting our republic.

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Waco1947 said:

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I want my vote to count. I want ease of voting: by mail or drop boxes and early voting..
I want an end to gerrymandering. I live in a district gerrymandered to the GOP. My vote and my voice are powerless. There is no competition to steer candidates away from simply playing to their base.
Americans ought not to feel powerless with their vote. Money and gerrymandering are hurting our republic.

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move to chicago.. your vote will count