historian said:

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"The fool says in his heart, 'There is no God.' They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does good."
Psalm 14:1

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You do realize that belief in god is a man made concept.

TexasScientist said:

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historian said:

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You keep making statements of opinion as if they were fact. That's hardly "scientific" or scholarly! While some "scholars" might claim the Gospel of John was written anonymously, most legitimate Bible scholars don't. They make all kinds of ridiculous claims about Jesus and His ministry, about His disciple, about Paul, and much else. These false narratives are often repeated by atheists, charlatans, people with an axe to grind, Christ-haters, & others but they always collapse under the facts, especially as presented in scripture.

For at least 150+ years (probably much more), various "experts" have been trying to cast doubts about various aspects of scripture: the accounts of the creation, the flood, other historic events, the authorship of various books, the biographies of persons in the Bible, and almost everything else. Most of their claims have been soundly refuted by genuine scholarship that takes the text seriously. Over the years, including recently, there have been several dramatic archaeological finds and other scholarship that confirm the biblical accounts of events 3,000 or 4,000 years ago.

To be honest, most of the efforts to contradict the Bible & its history are a rabbit hole, a silly waste of time for anyone who takes it seriously.

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Only if you redefine legitimate to exclude critical credentialed researchers and scholars. Ask the Baylor Religion Department. They'll help you out.

The evidence of reality, science and history tell us the biblical accounts of creation, both accounts, and the flood story was borrowed and embellished from ancient Canaanite and older cultures.

The rabbit hole is believing in impossible, and far-fetched myths.

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If that's what those "credentialed scholars" think then their credentials aren't worth much. A so-called Bible scholar who calls God a liar is a fool and probably does not know as much as he or she thinks. Academia has declined much over the past 50-60 years with crazy ideas, unproven theories, and blatant lies masquerading as scholarship l.

Elevating scientists, scholars, and anyone else who thinks education alone makes one smart is the true rabbit hole, someone following far fetched myths. It's amazing the crazy nonsense the self proclaimed intelligentsia believe. The climate cult, trans insanity, gender studies, basically all the kookiness we've seen from the Ivies lately, all the various forms of Marxism (including cultural), "Queers for Palestine", and so on.

They repeatedly prove Orwell correct:
"Some ideas are so absurd only an intellectual will believe them."

TexasScientist said:

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historian said:

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"The fool says in his heart, 'There is no God.' They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does good."
Psalm 14:1

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You do realize that belief in god is a man made concept.

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Actually it's a concept from God. Belief in God is also basic common sense and self evident fact.

"For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse." Romans 1:19-20

historian said:

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TexasScientist said:

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historian said:

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You keep making statements of opinion as if they were fact. That's hardly "scientific" or scholarly! While some "scholars" might claim the Gospel of John was written anonymously, most legitimate Bible scholars don't. They make all kinds of ridiculous claims about Jesus and His ministry, about His disciple, about Paul, and much else. These false narratives are often repeated by atheists, charlatans, people with an axe to grind, Christ-haters, & others but they always collapse under the facts, especially as presented in scripture.

For at least 150+ years (probably much more), various "experts" have been trying to cast doubts about various aspects of scripture: the accounts of the creation, the flood, other historic events, the authorship of various books, the biographies of persons in the Bible, and almost everything else. Most of their claims have been soundly refuted by genuine scholarship that takes the text seriously. Over the years, including recently, there have been several dramatic archaeological finds and other scholarship that confirm the biblical accounts of events 3,000 or 4,000 years ago.

To be honest, most of the efforts to contradict the Bible & its history are a rabbit hole, a silly waste of time for anyone who takes it seriously.

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Only if you redefine legitimate to exclude critical credentialed researchers and scholars. Ask the Baylor Religion Department. They'll help you out.

The evidence of reality, science and history tell us the biblical accounts of creation, both accounts, and the flood story was borrowed and embellished from ancient Canaanite and older cultures.

The rabbit hole is believing in impossible, and far-fetched myths.

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If that's what those "credentialed scholars" think then their credentials aren't worth much. A so-called Bible scholar who calls God a liar is a fool and probably does not know as much as he or she thinks. Academia has declined much over the past 50-60 years with crazy ideas, unproven theories, and blatant lies masquerading as scholarship l.

Elevating scientists, scholars, and anyone else who thinks education alone makes one smart is the true rabbit hole, someone following far fetched myths. It's amazing the crazy nonsense the self proclaimed intelligentsia believe. The climate cult, trans insanity, gender studies, basically all the kookiness we've seen from the Ivies lately, all the various forms of Marxism (including cultural), "Queers for Palestine", and so on.

They repeatedly prove Orwell correct:
"Some ideas are so absurd only an intellectual will believe them."

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I'm not aware of any objective scholarship that vests a god with the ability to talk, or any objective evidence that any god has ever spoken to anyone. Most people that hear things including god have various degrees of psychological disorders. Academia is the place where ideas, and hypothesis can be questioned, tested, and either accepted or rejected depending upon reproducible results. In academia everything is open to question. There are always people with fringe ideas and crazy nonsensical beliefs. Their "kookiness" is no more "kooky" than adopting the mythological beliefs of ancient primitive people.

Objective critical thinking, objective analysis, and academia is what has taken our species out of the dark ages to the present technological standard of living we enjoy today. Religion is mired in ignorance.

historian said:

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TexasScientist said:

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historian said:

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"The fool says in his heart, 'There is no God.' They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does good."
Psalm 14:1

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You do realize that belief in god is a man made concept.

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Actually it's a concept from God. Belief in God is also basic common sense and self evident fact.

"For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse." Romans 1:19-20

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Sounds good to an apologist, but there is no basis to support such an over the top statement.

You realize you're quoting someone whose beliefs are the product of a primitive culture that believed in myths and the supernatural to try and understand their plight. The evidence of reality belies those claims and reveals them as primitive beliefs of primitive people who were trying to make sense of their circumstance in the world.

whiterock said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Realitybites said:

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We need to get out of NATO. Culturally, demographically, and politically those nations are nothing like the ones we agreed to give Truman doctrine protections to almost 80 years ago.

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I disagree

Being in NATO allows the Western World to have a powerful alliance network

And that also prevents outsiders from coming into Europe and causing trouble. (Russia)

And it prevents the massive rearming of the European powers and their old bitter rivalries (UK vs France, France vs Germany, Germany vs Poland, Turkey vs all the non-Muslim Balkan states, etc.)

The NATO allies are all supposed to spend 2% of GDP on defense (most don't hit that number)...but it keeps everyone spending around the same proportionally.

If NATO goes away then the UK, France, Germany, Turkey, Italy, Poland all start to rearm at a fast pace to become the big military dog in Europe. And we get dangerously close to a 1914 world again of rival alliance networks and large military spending campaigns.

That world is not good for America or the average European.

The USA and the EU States need to be in a general positive military alliance....especially as we face the big challenges of the future.

Rivalry and war in Europe eventually sucks us in....and its not good for anyone but the non-Western rivals who gain from the West infighting

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At this point NATO is a major hinderance to native Europeans purging their countries of the 3rd world invaders and rainbow globalists who are on the cusp of making them extinct. Britain, France, Sweden, and Belgium are already lost forever... and the rest of Europe isnt far behind.

Nationalism needs to thrive.

NATO needs to die.

Realitybites is right.

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That is the EU bureaucracy

Not NATO

NATO truly does not have anything to do with setting European migration policies (leftwing or rightwing)

And if NATO went away tomorrow there is not a totally impossible scenario where Muslim Turkey under Erdogan starts actually invading other European-Balkans countries. (they have dangerous neo-Ottoman tendencies)

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Red has his eye on the ball here. NATO is a tremendous stabilizing force in EUrope, greatly lessening geopolitical tensions within the alliance by freezing borders where they are and largely removing the dynamic of "spheres of influence." Bulgaria, Greece, and Romania are no longer just shatterzone states between greater powers - Turkey, Italy, and Germany. They are all allied together rather than pieces of constantly shifting blocks of alliances whose dynamics threaten larger powers.

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I know two FSOs that work at NATO and they're both radical leftists. I would hope they're not representative of the rest of the Americans working there. I toured NATO a couple of years ago and they had CNN on every TV in the cafeteria. They're very vocally anti Trump.

TexasScientist said:

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historian said:

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TexasScientist said:

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historian said:

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You keep making statements of opinion as if they were fact. That's hardly "scientific" or scholarly! While some "scholars" might claim the Gospel of John was written anonymously, most legitimate Bible scholars don't. They make all kinds of ridiculous claims about Jesus and His ministry, about His disciple, about Paul, and much else. These false narratives are often repeated by atheists, charlatans, people with an axe to grind, Christ-haters, & others but they always collapse under the facts, especially as presented in scripture.

For at least 150+ years (probably much more), various "experts" have been trying to cast doubts about various aspects of scripture: the accounts of the creation, the flood, other historic events, the authorship of various books, the biographies of persons in the Bible, and almost everything else. Most of their claims have been soundly refuted by genuine scholarship that takes the text seriously. Over the years, including recently, there have been several dramatic archaeological finds and other scholarship that confirm the biblical accounts of events 3,000 or 4,000 years ago.

To be honest, most of the efforts to contradict the Bible & its history are a rabbit hole, a silly waste of time for anyone who takes it seriously.

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Only if you redefine legitimate to exclude critical credentialed researchers and scholars. Ask the Baylor Religion Department. They'll help you out.

The evidence of reality, science and history tell us the biblical accounts of creation, both accounts, and the flood story was borrowed and embellished from ancient Canaanite and older cultures.

The rabbit hole is believing in impossible, and far-fetched myths.

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If that's what those "credentialed scholars" think then their credentials aren't worth much. A so-called Bible scholar who calls God a liar is a fool and probably does not know as much as he or she thinks. Academia has declined much over the past 50-60 years with crazy ideas, unproven theories, and blatant lies masquerading as scholarship l.

Elevating scientists, scholars, and anyone else who thinks education alone makes one smart is the true rabbit hole, someone following far fetched myths. It's amazing the crazy nonsense the self proclaimed intelligentsia believe. The climate cult, trans insanity, gender studies, basically all the kookiness we've seen from the Ivies lately, all the various forms of Marxism (including cultural), "Queers for Palestine", and so on.

They repeatedly prove Orwell correct:
"Some ideas are so absurd only an intellectual will believe them."

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I'm not aware of any objective scholarship that vests a god with the ability to talk, or any objective evidence that any god has ever spoken to anyone. Most people that hear things including god have various degrees of psychological disorders. Academia is the place where ideas, and hypothesis can be questioned, tested, and either accepted or rejected depending upon reproducible results. In academia everything is open to question. There are always people with fringe ideas and crazy nonsensical beliefs. Their "kookiness" is no more "kooky" than adopting the mythological beliefs of ancient primitive people.

Objective critical thinking, objective analysis, and academia is what has taken our species out of the dark ages to the present technological standard of living we enjoy today. Religion is mired in ignorance.

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Academia is also where lots of stupid ideas, bogus theories, junk science, & outright lies gain lots of traction. For decades the climate cultists made lots of apocalyptic predictions about famines, tiring oceans, mass devastation, etc. They all proved false. Academics also give us all kinds of trans insanity, bigotry, antisemitism, arrogance, etc.

Academics definitely don't have a monopoly on knowledge or discoveries. They often lack wisdom which is far more important. What they seem to have in abundance is arrogance which when added to cultural Marxism is generally laughable in its idiocy.

You keep talking using "primitive" when you should be using the word "ancient". Is that deliberate? It appears arrogant and condescending. There is nothing objective of respectful about such an attitude. One could even say it sounds "kooky", like so much else that academia produces these days.

TexasScientist said:

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historian said:

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TexasScientist said:

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historian said:

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"The fool says in his heart, 'There is no God.' They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does good."
Psalm 14:1

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You do realize that belief in god is a man made concept.

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Actually it's a concept from God. Belief in God is also basic common sense and self evident fact.

"For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse." Romans 1:19-20

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Sounds good to an apologist, but there is no basis to support such an over the top statement.

You realize you're quoting someone whose beliefs are the product of a primitive culture that believed in myths and the supernatural to try and understand their plight. The evidence of reality belies those claims and reveals them as primitive beliefs of primitive people who were trying to make sense of their circumstance in the world.

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Actually the opposite. I'm quoting the ultimate authority on such issues: God's word. It's a statement of fact and reality.

Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Realitybites said:

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We need to get out of NATO. Culturally, demographically, and politically those nations are nothing like the ones we agreed to give Truman doctrine protections to almost 80 years ago.

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I disagree

Being in NATO allows the Western World to have a powerful alliance network

And that also prevents outsiders from coming into Europe and causing trouble. (Russia)

And it prevents the massive rearming of the European powers and their old bitter rivalries (UK vs France, France vs Germany, Germany vs Poland, Turkey vs all the non-Muslim Balkan states, etc.)

The NATO allies are all supposed to spend 2% of GDP on defense (most don't hit that number)...but it keeps everyone spending around the same proportionally.

If NATO goes away then the UK, France, Germany, Turkey, Italy, Poland all start to rearm at a fast pace to become the big military dog in Europe. And we get dangerously close to a 1914 world again of rival alliance networks and large military spending campaigns.

That world is not good for America or the average European.

The USA and the EU States need to be in a general positive military alliance....especially as we face the big challenges of the future.

Rivalry and war in Europe eventually sucks us in....and its not good for anyone but the non-Western rivals who gain from the West infighting

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At this point NATO is a major hinderance to native Europeans purging their countries of the 3rd world invaders and rainbow globalists who are on the cusp of making them extinct. Britain, France, Sweden, and Belgium are already lost forever... and the rest of Europe isnt far behind.

Nationalism needs to thrive.

NATO needs to die.

Realitybites is right.

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That is the EU bureaucracy

Not NATO

NATO truly does not have anything to do with setting European migration policies (leftwing or rightwing)

And if NATO went away tomorrow there is not a totally impossible scenario where Muslim Turkey under Erdogan starts actually invading other European-Balkans countries. (they have dangerous neo-Ottoman tendencies)

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Red has his eye on the ball here. NATO is a tremendous stabilizing force in EUrope, greatly lessening geopolitical tensions within the alliance by freezing borders where they are and largely removing the dynamic of "spheres of influence." Bulgaria, Greece, and Romania are no longer just shatterzone states between greater powers - Turkey, Italy, and Germany. They are all allied together rather than pieces of constantly shifting blocks of alliances whose dynamics threaten larger powers.

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I know two FSOs that work at NATO and they're both radical leftists. I would hope they're not representative of the rest of the Americans working there. I toured NATO a couple of years ago and they had CNN on every TV in the cafeteria. They're very vocally anti Trump.

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yep. and Mark Rutte, the new NATO Sec. Gen. is a leftist nutter, too. No question that the Nato bureaucracy would react reflexively and fairly uniformly to a change agent like Trump.

But none of that changes the impact of the alliance on itself. It greatly relieves millennia-old rivalries. the first Nato SG, Lord Ismay, put it succinctly:

"...(the purpose of Nato is)"to keep the Soviet Union out, the Americans in, and the Germans down."

That is the subtext to German unwillingness to meet their Nato spending obligations, and also why the rest of Nato has never made an issue of it.

BREAKING: Ukraine Just Pulled Off One of the Most Daring Strikes in Modern Warfare

In what can only be described as a stunning act of covert military ingenuity, Ukraine has reportedly struck 41 Russian bombers across four separate air bases, some located as far as 4,400… pic.twitter.com/7qp4foXAX1

— Brian Krassenstein (@krassenstein) June 1, 2025

boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING: Ukraine Just Pulled Off One of the Most Daring Strikes in Modern Warfare

In what can only be described as a stunning act of covert military ingenuity, Ukraine has reportedly struck 41 Russian bombers across four separate air bases, some located as far as 4,400… pic.twitter.com/7qp4foXAX1

— Brian Krassenstein (@krassenstein) June 1, 2025

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"Zelensky has no cards."

Zelensky:

https://images.app.goo.gl/sxQD67WwTcmnZ6728

Not sure why that dude would walk into that

Russian man enters one of Ukraine’s drone trucks.

Moments later, the trucks self-destruction mechanism ignites and the truck explodes. pic.twitter.com/vXsokRvDOb

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) June 1, 2025

boognish_bear said:

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Not sure why that dude would walk into that

Russian man enters one of Ukraine’s drone trucks.

Moments later, the trucks self-destruction mechanism ignites and the truck explodes. pic.twitter.com/vXsokRvDOb

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) June 1, 2025

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Ouch!

Pretty wild

What exactly just hit 4 russian airfields and destroyed over 40 strategic bombers? THIS 👇👇👇
13/15 inch FPV Kamikaze drones.

At $430 a piece you can take out a strategic bomber worth $100 MILLION DOLLARS. pic.twitter.com/TrAdotjIjA

— Richard Woodruff 🇺🇦 (@frontlinekit) June 1, 2025

❗️Operation Spiderweb was personally led by Zelensky and everything was planned for over a year, — FT pic.twitter.com/Dlics4VosG

— 🪖MilitaryNewsUA🇺🇦 (@front_ukrainian) June 1, 2025

BREAKING:

Ukraine launched another large swarm of suicide drones against Russia moments ago pic.twitter.com/smLcuhN24i

— Visegrád 24 (@visegrad24) June 1, 2025

Aircraft carriers of the world
USA
UK
France
Ukraine pic.twitter.com/yN0eEuDinE

— Darth Putin (@DarthPutinKGB) June 1, 2025

whiterock said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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whiterock said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Realitybites said:

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We need to get out of NATO. Culturally, demographically, and politically those nations are nothing like the ones we agreed to give Truman doctrine protections to almost 80 years ago.

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I disagree

Being in NATO allows the Western World to have a powerful alliance network

And that also prevents outsiders from coming into Europe and causing trouble. (Russia)

And it prevents the massive rearming of the European powers and their old bitter rivalries (UK vs France, France vs Germany, Germany vs Poland, Turkey vs all the non-Muslim Balkan states, etc.)

The NATO allies are all supposed to spend 2% of GDP on defense (most don't hit that number)...but it keeps everyone spending around the same proportionally.

If NATO goes away then the UK, France, Germany, Turkey, Italy, Poland all start to rearm at a fast pace to become the big military dog in Europe. And we get dangerously close to a 1914 world again of rival alliance networks and large military spending campaigns.

That world is not good for America or the average European.

The USA and the EU States need to be in a general positive military alliance....especially as we face the big challenges of the future.

Rivalry and war in Europe eventually sucks us in....and its not good for anyone but the non-Western rivals who gain from the West infighting

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At this point NATO is a major hinderance to native Europeans purging their countries of the 3rd world invaders and rainbow globalists who are on the cusp of making them extinct. Britain, France, Sweden, and Belgium are already lost forever... and the rest of Europe isnt far behind.

Nationalism needs to thrive.

NATO needs to die.

Realitybites is right.

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That is the EU bureaucracy

Not NATO

NATO truly does not have anything to do with setting European migration policies (leftwing or rightwing)

And if NATO went away tomorrow there is not a totally impossible scenario where Muslim Turkey under Erdogan starts actually invading other European-Balkans countries. (they have dangerous neo-Ottoman tendencies)

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Red has his eye on the ball here. NATO is a tremendous stabilizing force in EUrope, greatly lessening geopolitical tensions within the alliance by freezing borders where they are and largely removing the dynamic of "spheres of influence." Bulgaria, Greece, and Romania are no longer just shatterzone states between greater powers - Turkey, Italy, and Germany. They are all allied together rather than pieces of constantly shifting blocks of alliances whose dynamics threaten larger powers.

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I know two FSOs that work at NATO and they're both radical leftists. I would hope they're not representative of the rest of the Americans working there. I toured NATO a couple of years ago and they had CNN on every TV in the cafeteria. They're very vocally anti Trump.

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yep. and Mark Rutte, the new NATO Sec. Gen. is a leftist nutter, too. No question that the Nato bureaucracy would react reflexively and fairly uniformly to a change agent like Trump.

But none of that changes the impact of the alliance on itself. It greatly relieves millennia-old rivalries. the first Nato SG, Lord Ismay, put it succinctly:

"...(the purpose of Nato is)"to keep the Soviet Union out, the Americans in, and the Germans down."

That is the subtext to German unwillingness to meet their Nato spending obligations, and also why the rest of Nato has never made an issue of it.

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My generation will put NATO down... like many other corrupt institutions you support.

You and the other boomers can wail about it from the afterlife.

NATO should have been killed off 30 years ago for attacking the Serbian Nationalists, which had they won would have kept Europe from being overrun by the 3rd world Asians and Africans.

boognish_bear said:

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Aircraft carriers of the world
USA
UK
France
Ukraine pic.twitter.com/yN0eEuDinE

— Darth Putin (@DarthPutinKGB) June 1, 2025

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Great! They can go after Russia with financial support from the Europeans.

I'm at the point where I will fight any American to the death who supports continuing to waste money to corrupt oligarchs in Ukraine. We have wasted so much money and racked up so much debt some of the most conservative members of congress are saying we cannot afford to extend the Trump tax cuts... if I have to pay more for decisions I have vehemently opposed from the very beginning then I am ready for heads to roll!

They destroyed this country by replacing our constitutional republic with more and more socialized bull**** and took more and more from the productive, independent value add citizens to support the vast hordes of human trash that got dumped in this country like some kind of human landfill.

The rioting invaders in Paris last night left nobody alone.

Attacking young girls trying to get home

Mass deportations ASAP.
pic.twitter.com/v2hWplS2bt

— Tommy Robinson 🇬🇧 (@TRobinsonNewEra) June 1, 2025

How many dollars has our government, NATO, and the EU spent to support NGOs which caused this?

Let’s drop the charade, this isn’t a Ukraine-Russia conflict.
It’s a full-blown NATO war on Russia, with Ukraine as the disposable pawn.

Those strikes on Russian bombers, rail lines, airfields, and bridges weren’t just Ukraine acting alone, they were coordinated, funded and… pic.twitter.com/JCj4bEHm5B

— Richard (@ricwe123) June 1, 2025

The_barBEARian said:

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Let’s drop the charade, this isn’t a Ukraine-Russia conflict.
It’s a full-blown NATO war on Russia, with Ukraine as the disposable pawn.

Those strikes on Russian bombers, rail lines, airfields, and bridges weren’t just Ukraine acting alone, they were coordinated, funded and… pic.twitter.com/JCj4bEHm5B

— Richard (@ricwe123) June 1, 2025

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Really tough day for you and this Richard fellow.

ATTENTION!

So, it appears Zelenskyy gave the go ahead to attack parked Russian nuclear capable bombers without informing @realDonaldTrump (if true that our President was not consulted nor informed, this isn’t simply a breach of protocol. It’s a geopolitical insult and a warning… pic.twitter.com/L976NhwFy6

— General Mike Flynn (@GenFlynn) June 1, 2025

The_barBEARian said:

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Let’s drop the charade, this isn’t a Ukraine-Russia conflict.
It’s a full-blown NATO war on Russia, with Ukraine as the disposable pawn.

Those strikes on Russian bombers, rail lines, airfields, and bridges weren’t just Ukraine acting alone, they were coordinated, funded and… pic.twitter.com/JCj4bEHm5B

— Richard (@ricwe123) June 1, 2025

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The start of WWIII...

Assassin said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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Let’s drop the charade, this isn’t a Ukraine-Russia conflict.
It’s a full-blown NATO war on Russia, with Ukraine as the disposable pawn.

Those strikes on Russian bombers, rail lines, airfields, and bridges weren’t just Ukraine acting alone, they were coordinated, funded and… pic.twitter.com/JCj4bEHm5B

— Richard (@ricwe123) June 1, 2025

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The start of WWIII...

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Ukraine did not notify the Trump administration in advance of the drone attacks on Russian airbases
-Axios pic.twitter.com/ss5DjVWAS4

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) June 1, 2025

The irony is all the same dimwits who were so critical of Trump's tariffs negatively impacting the global market are celebrating this unilateral attack by Ukraine.

Attacking these bombers will be considered an attack on Russia's nuclear arsenal. So now if Russia retaliates with the first tactical nuke strike in 80 years how are the markets going to respond to that?

on the eve of "peace talks" pic.twitter.com/kb3gnM6XVQ

— Luke Rudkowski (@Lukewearechange) June 2, 2025

The_barBEARian said:

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ATTENTION!

So, it appears Zelenskyy gave the go ahead to attack parked Russian nuclear capable bombers without informing @realDonaldTrump (if true that our President was not consulted nor informed, this isn’t simply a breach of protocol. It’s a geopolitical insult and a warning… pic.twitter.com/L976NhwFy6

— General Mike Flynn (@GenFlynn) June 1, 2025

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Doing my best to set aside my rooting interest for Ukraine, I completely disagree with Flynn here.

One, Ukraine had to keep this tight. I would trust Trump, but I would not trust some in his administratiion.

Two, and more importantly from a U.S. perspective, had Ukraine told us, the story would have been this was a U.S. attack.

I'm pretty confident saying the administration would not have wanted to know.

sombear said:

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The_barBEARian said:

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ATTENTION!

So, it appears Zelenskyy gave the go ahead to attack parked Russian nuclear capable bombers without informing @realDonaldTrump (if true that our President was not consulted nor informed, this isn’t simply a breach of protocol. It’s a geopolitical insult and a warning… pic.twitter.com/L976NhwFy6

— General Mike Flynn (@GenFlynn) June 1, 2025

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Doing my best to set aside my rooting interest for Ukraine, I completely disagree with Flynn here.

One, Ukraine had to keep this tight. I would trust Trump, but I would not trust some in his administratiion.

Two, and more importantly from a U.S. perspective, had Ukraine told us, the story would have been this was a U.S. attack.

I'm pretty confident saying the administration would not have wanted to know.

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They also attacked some civilian infrastructure - bridges and railways - and killed a couple dozen Russian civilians.

When you combine the fact that Trump wasnt notified with the fact that they chose to execute this attack on the eve of scheduled peace talks, it is so brazenly offensive I imagine Zelensky just burned any remnant of grace he had left with this admin who is doing everything it can to end the conflict.

The vast majority of the American tax payers are against funding this proxy war.

The MIC seems to be under the assumption tax payers are their slave caste who solely exist to serve them.

If they can't get our tax cuts extended bcs we are so badly in debt, but a year from now they send hundreds of billions more to Ukraine there should be blood in the streets.

JUST IN: 🇬🇧 Prime Minister Starmer declares the United Kingdom is moving to "war-fighting readiness." pic.twitter.com/8XrpF3pTWD

— BRICS News (@BRICSinfo) June 2, 2025

JUST IN: 🇷🇺🇺🇦 Russia and Ukraine begin peace negotiations in Istanbul, Türkiye. pic.twitter.com/tMpZM4DO10

— BRICS News (@BRICSinfo) June 2, 2025

boognish_bear said:

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JUST IN: 🇬🇧 Prime Minister Starmer declares the United Kingdom is moving to "war-fighting readiness." pic.twitter.com/8XrpF3pTWD

— BRICS News (@BRICSinfo) June 2, 2025

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Surely he is talking about war readiness with Pakistani Grooming gangs who targeted and raped native English girls or foreign invaders like the animal who stabbed those little girls in Southport.... Right?.... Right???.....

boognish_bear said:

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Aircraft carriers of the world
USA
UK
France
Ukraine pic.twitter.com/yN0eEuDinE

— Darth Putin (@DarthPutinKGB) June 1, 2025

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When it absolutely, positively, has to get there over target.

🚨🚨🚨 Zelensky issues a warning to Europe🚨🚨🚨

''Ask your intelligence what Russia is preparing this summer from the territory of Belarus. Europe needs to prepare now''

- President Zelensky pic.twitter.com/hmlnMufuL9

— Bricktop_NAFO (@Bricktop_NAFO) June 2, 2025