Ron & Don - Who is More Impressive?

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In reply to whiterock • 1:26p, 6/6/23
whiterock said:
Meanwhile, back on the farm….

I saw these last night, and RDS does much better head-to-head, but that's not how the game is played. I'd say there is good news for RDS and Trump in these numbers.
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2:01p, 6/6/23
That not a 14 point shift toward RDS..

its a 10 point Shy vote that could go to RDS, Trump, or other..
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 2:22p, 6/6/23
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Aliceinbubbleland said:
Are you saying you'd support Trump over Pence?

Trump, for all his flaws, basically did a good job when he was in the Oval Office.
I have always maintained Trump is far superior to whomever the Dems throw out. But let's not pretend Trump's presidency wasn't a VERY mixed bag, especially his last two years in office. There was some good. Some bad. And some REALLY bad.

He spent like a drunken sailor, failed miserably on his border wall, and his COVID policy and vaccine rollout? Oy vey.
You might want to go back and check what he actually did. Spending starts with Congress, for example, and the 'last two years' the Democrats controlled Congress and used every tool available to harass him .

I don't like his style of argument sometimes, and yes he made mistakes (but fewer than either Bush and let's not even pretend his mistakes add up to any of the damage done by Clinton or Obama), and yes I don't want him to be the GOP nominee.

But trashing Trump's foreign policy, his trade negotiations, or his common sense attitude in rolling back Obama's policies, that goes after things we should be supporting and should be protecting against the Left.

God help us if we get Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio or someone like Mitch McConnell to lead our nation.
His trade deals have failed miserably...
too harsh. His term marked a historic inflection point on China. Changed the dynamic, forced the system to realize that the model was coming to an end (like with it or not), which gave us a bit of a head start when Covid delivered the coup de grace.

The rationale for Globalism ended in 1992. The ship of state drifted along in the channel for another two decades-plus on momentum, entrenched interests clutching pearls......business interests demanding to hang on to business models, politicians not being willing to upset donors, cultural addiction to open society ideology, etc.... Trump was the first POTUS to actually grab the ship's wheel and force the battleship starting to make the slow turn toward another course. Biden has largely continued the same policy and it will STILL take years for the new supply chains to completely coalesce.

One can quibble with the length of the list of outstanding details without minimizing the foresight and courage to force the make the course correction NOW rather than do what all of his predecessors had done....nothing, while hoping for serendipity to do the dirty work for them.


The man who screwed the Service Employees Union in his Trump Casino bankruptcies as the champion of labor has to be one of the more ironic turnabouts in politics.
And if it is? That's politics.
Sure, but it was the same year. Usually it takes a bit to marinate and "clarify" one's position.
He's been talking about jobs, trade, and globalization for a long time. I don't know how successful his efforts will be in the long run, but I do give him credit for mainstreaming the issue.
Everyone talks about jobs, trade, and globalization. He didn't mainstream anything. But no one has the gall to talk about them from a realistic perspective, including Trump. Pandering is pandering regardless of your emotive method of choice.
Not everyone talks about it in terms of "America first." That perspective had no real place in the debate before.
Wait, are you actually saying sloganism hasn't been part of this ancient political issue?
The terminology is irrelevant. Until a few years ago it was always called "isolationism."
isolationism isnt the same thing as America first.. it is also an outdated Philosophy that would make America a lesser power in the world

America first is not America only.
I agree.
Interesting. I do as well.
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2:22p, 6/6/23
neverTrumper cult is twice the size of the Trump cult.
RINO gonna RINO.


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In reply to whiterock • 3:25p, 6/6/23
whiterock said:
neverTrumper cult is twice the size of the Trump cult.
RINO gonna RINO.


Neither of those numbers is anywhere near credible. Rasmussen has gone to s _ _ _! No other pollster has anything close to that. Biden got 6% of Republicans in 2020. Absurd.
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In reply to whiterock • 3:34p, 6/6/23
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neverTrumper cult is twice the size of the Trump cult.
RINO gonna RINO.




I won't vote for Biden, but Never Trump
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In reply to Osodecentx • 3:55p, 6/6/23
Your urination on America is noted.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 5:49p, 6/6/23
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Your urination on America is noted.
That happened on January 6th.
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In reply to Aliceinbubbleland • 5:53p, 6/6/23
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Oldbear83 said:
Your urination on America is noted.
That happened on January 6th.


Tourists?
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In reply to Osodecentx • 5:55p, 6/6/23
Yeah and the Tour Guide was the Orange Man
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In reply to Aliceinbubbleland • 5:56p, 6/6/23
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Yeah and the Tour Guide was the Orange Man
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In reply to Aliceinbubbleland • 7:13p, 6/6/23
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Oldbear83 said:
Your urination on America is noted.
That happened on January 6th.
would that be the feds in the crowd or the video showing the doors were opened and let people in..

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In reply to Aliceinbubbleland • 7:33p, 6/6/23
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Oldbear83 said:
Your urination on America is noted.
That happened on January 6th.
Only in the sense that idiots wet themselves, mistaking a riot for something else.
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8:14p, 6/6/23
Whatever happened to the person/persons that left the bombs at the DNC?
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In reply to GrowlTowel • 8:20p, 6/6/23
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Whatever happened to the person/persons that left the bombs at the DNC?
They/them work for MSNBC now.
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In reply to sombear • 9:01a, 6/7/23
sombear said:
whiterock said:
neverTrumper cult is twice the size of the Trump cult.
RINO gonna RINO.


Neither of those numbers is anywhere near credible. Rasmussen has gone to s _ _ _! No other pollster has anything close to that. Biden got 6% of Republicans in 2020. Absurd.
They state openly they are mildly oversampling Democrats, ergo their Biden support numbers are outliers to Biden's advantage. That makes some sense, frankly, given the mail in voting dynamic, which tends to turn out more low-propensity voters, which tends to narrow the gap between typically more GOP-friendly "likely voter" universe and the more Democrat-friendly "all adults" universe.

They remain one of the top handful of most accurate pollsters over the last few cycles, so we can't toss it out. That same soft-D universe is showing very high rates on belief that voter fraud affected the last election, on aversion to the rainbow agenda, etc.....So any correction to their universes you might advocate would drive their other numbers in a red direction..

And it is showing another somber truth. The "neverTrumpers" are more hidebound than the "Trumpers." Quite ironic. The people talking about the cult actually are the cult. We certainly see that here......
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In reply to Osodecentx • 9:02a, 6/7/23
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
neverTrumper cult is twice the size of the Trump cult.
RINO gonna RINO.




I won't vote for Biden, but Never Trump
The cult lives on!
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In reply to whiterock • 9:05a, 6/7/23
whiterock said:
sombear said:
whiterock said:
neverTrumper cult is twice the size of the Trump cult.
RINO gonna RINO.


Neither of those numbers is anywhere near credible. Rasmussen has gone to s _ _ _! No other pollster has anything close to that. Biden got 6% of Republicans in 2020. Absurd.
They state openly they are mildly oversampling Democrats, ergo their Biden support numbers are outliers to Biden's advantage. That makes some sense, frankly, given the mail in voting dynamic, which tends to turn out more low-propensity voters, which tends to narrow the gap between typically more GOP-friendly "likely voter" universe and the more Democrat-friendly "all adults" universe.

They remain one of the top handful of most accurate pollsters over the last few cycles, so we can't toss it out. That same soft-D universe is showing very high rates on belief that voter fraud affected the last election, on aversion to the rainbow agenda, etc.....So any correction to their universes you might advocate would drive their other numbers in a red direction..

And it is showing another somber truth. The "neverTrumpers" are more hidebound than the "Trumpers." Quite ironic. The people talking about the cult actually are the cult. We certainly see that here......
I liked Scott R, but new R has been awful. But, regardless, no other poll, including internals has this cross-voting at double digits, let alone 20-40%. Rather, it's in the typical 5-9 range, with little difference between RDS and Trump voters.
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In reply to whiterock • 9:09a, 6/7/23
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
neverTrumper cult is twice the size of the Trump cult.
RINO gonna RINO.




I won't vote for Biden, but Never Trump
The cult lives on!
Always Trump All the Time
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In reply to sombear • 9:10a, 6/7/23
sombear said:
whiterock said:
sombear said:
whiterock said:
neverTrumper cult is twice the size of the Trump cult.
RINO gonna RINO.


Neither of those numbers is anywhere near credible. Rasmussen has gone to s _ _ _! No other pollster has anything close to that. Biden got 6% of Republicans in 2020. Absurd.
They state openly they are mildly oversampling Democrats, ergo their Biden support numbers are outliers to Biden's advantage. That makes some sense, frankly, given the mail in voting dynamic, which tends to turn out more low-propensity voters, which tends to narrow the gap between typically more GOP-friendly "likely voter" universe and the more Democrat-friendly "all adults" universe.

They remain one of the top handful of most accurate pollsters over the last few cycles, so we can't toss it out. That same soft-D universe is showing very high rates on belief that voter fraud affected the last election, on aversion to the rainbow agenda, etc.....So any correction to their universes you might advocate would drive their other numbers in a red direction..

And it is showing another somber truth. The "neverTrumpers" are more hidebound than the "Trumpers." Quite ironic. The people talking about the cult actually are the cult. We certainly see that here......
I liked Scott R, but new R has been awful. But, regardless, no other poll, including internals has this cross-voting at double digits, let alone 20-40%. Rather, it's in the typical 5-9 range, with little difference between RDS and Trump voters.
Yeah and in June 2015 Jeb Bush was still thought to be the candidate and in May 2015 Rubio was the GOP front-runner. These polls mean nothing.
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In reply to Osodecentx • 9:15a, 6/7/23
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
neverTrumper cult is twice the size of the Trump cult.
RINO gonna RINO.




I won't vote for Biden, but Never Trump
The cult lives on!
Always Trump All the Time
Accurately describes your obsession, yes.
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In reply to Osodecentx • 11:40a, 6/7/23
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
neverTrumper cult is twice the size of the Trump cult.
RINO gonna RINO.




I won't vote for Biden, but Never Trump
The cult lives on!
Always Trump All the Time
if Always Trump means never Trump in the primary, never progressive style liberalism in the General then yes..(maybe)
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In reply to 4th and Inches • 3:19p, 6/7/23
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
neverTrumper cult is twice the size of the Trump cult.
RINO gonna RINO.




I won't vote for Biden, but Never Trump
The cult lives on!
Always Trump All the Time
if Always Trump means never Trump in the primary, never progressive style liberalism in the General then yes..(maybe)
It means that white rock will Always defend Trump All the Time no matter how many indictments, bankruptcies, or lawsuits. Never Trump means I will never vote for Trump again. Twice is enough
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In reply to Osodecentx • 6:39a, 6/8/23
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
neverTrumper cult is twice the size of the Trump cult.
RINO gonna RINO.




I won't vote for Biden, but Never Trump
The cult lives on!
Always Trump All the Time
Always seeing what you need to see to feel the way you need to feel.
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In reply to Osodecentx • 6:44a, 6/8/23
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
neverTrumper cult is twice the size of the Trump cult.
RINO gonna RINO.




I won't vote for Biden, but Never Trump
The cult lives on!
Always Trump All the Time
if Always Trump means never Trump in the primary, never progressive style liberalism in the General then yes..(maybe)
It means that white rock will Always defend Trump All the Time no matter how many indictments, bankruptcies, or lawsuits. Never Trump means I will never vote for Trump again. Twice is enough
If the voters decide that all that stuff is contrived political theater, I'm not going to argue with them. I'm going to pony up on a red horse and charge the blue enemy. If you want walk over to the sidelines & play tiddlywinks and criticize those who saddle up......well, it's a free country....but don't expect to receive any elevated measure of respect for the virtue posture. Quite the opposite.
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In reply to whiterock • 8:07a, 6/8/23
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
neverTrumper cult is twice the size of the Trump cult.
RINO gonna RINO.




I won't vote for Biden, but Never Trump
The cult lives on!
Always Trump All the Time
if Always Trump means never Trump in the primary, never progressive style liberalism in the General then yes..(maybe)
It means that white rock will Always defend Trump All the Time no matter how many indictments, bankruptcies, or lawsuits. Never Trump means I will never vote for Trump again. Twice is enough
If the voters decide that all that stuff is contrived political theater, I'm not going to argue with them. I'm going to pony up on a red horse and charge the blue enemy. If you want walk over to the sidelines & play tiddlywinks and criticize those who saddle up......well, it's a free country....but don't expect to receive any elevated measure of respect for the virtue posture. Quite the opposite.
I expect an elevated measure of self respect and I feel good.

As for "saddling up", you're riding for a renegade brand of outlaws in Paxton & the Dear Leader
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In reply to Osodecentx • 8:10a, 6/8/23
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
neverTrumper cult is twice the size of the Trump cult.
RINO gonna RINO.




I won't vote for Biden, but Never Trump
The cult lives on!
Always Trump All the Time
if Always Trump means never Trump in the primary, never progressive style liberalism in the General then yes..(maybe)
It means that white rock will Always defend Trump All the Time no matter how many indictments, bankruptcies, or lawsuits. Never Trump means I will never vote for Trump again. Twice is enough
If the voters decide that all that stuff is contrived political theater, I'm not going to argue with them. I'm going to pony up on a red horse and charge the blue enemy. If you want walk over to the sidelines & play tiddlywinks and criticize those who saddle up......well, it's a free country....but don't expect to receive any elevated measure of respect for the virtue posture. Quite the opposite.
I expect an elevated measure of self respect and I feel good.

As for "saddling up", you're riding for a renegade brand of outlaws in Paxton & the Dear Leader
And there we have it: the electorate can go to hell; OSO knows better.
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In reply to whiterock • 8:26a, 6/8/23
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
neverTrumper cult is twice the size of the Trump cult.
RINO gonna RINO.




I won't vote for Biden, but Never Trump
The cult lives on!
Always Trump All the Time
if Always Trump means never Trump in the primary, never progressive style liberalism in the General then yes..(maybe)
It means that white rock will Always defend Trump All the Time no matter how many indictments, bankruptcies, or lawsuits. Never Trump means I will never vote for Trump again. Twice is enough
If the voters decide that all that stuff is contrived political theater, I'm not going to argue with them. I'm going to pony up on a red horse and charge the blue enemy. If you want walk over to the sidelines & play tiddlywinks and criticize those who saddle up......well, it's a free country....but don't expect to receive any elevated measure of respect for the virtue posture. Quite the opposite.
I expect an elevated measure of self respect and I feel good.

As for "saddling up", you're riding for a renegade brand of outlaws in Paxton & the Dear Leader
And there we have it: the electorate can go to hell; OSO knows better.


Following your lead will take us to hell. I won't go with you
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In reply to Osodecentx • 8:35a, 6/8/23
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
neverTrumper cult is twice the size of the Trump cult.
RINO gonna RINO.




I won't vote for Biden, but Never Trump
The cult lives on!
Always Trump All the Time
if Always Trump means never Trump in the primary, never progressive style liberalism in the General then yes..(maybe)
It means that white rock will Always defend Trump All the Time no matter how many indictments, bankruptcies, or lawsuits. Never Trump means I will never vote for Trump again. Twice is enough
If the voters decide that all that stuff is contrived political theater, I'm not going to argue with them. I'm going to pony up on a red horse and charge the blue enemy. If you want walk over to the sidelines & play tiddlywinks and criticize those who saddle up......well, it's a free country....but don't expect to receive any elevated measure of respect for the virtue posture. Quite the opposite.
I expect an elevated measure of self respect and I feel good.

As for "saddling up", you're riding for a renegade brand of outlaws in Paxton & the Dear Leader
And there we have it: the electorate can go to hell; OSO knows better.


Following your lead will take us to hell. I won't go with you
I'm not leading anything. I'm waiting for the outcome of the primaries. At this point, pretty agnostic about who wins. But whoever it is will get my best effort. I owe it to my kids and grandkids not to make some stupid, self-serving virtue posture that will strengthen forces harmful to them.
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In reply to whiterock • 9:54a, 6/8/23
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
neverTrumper cult is twice the size of the Trump cult.
RINO gonna RINO.




I won't vote for Biden, but Never Trump
The cult lives on!
Always Trump All the Time
if Always Trump means never Trump in the primary, never progressive style liberalism in the General then yes..(maybe)
It means that white rock will Always defend Trump All the Time no matter how many indictments, bankruptcies, or lawsuits. Never Trump means I will never vote for Trump again. Twice is enough
If the voters decide that all that stuff is contrived political theater, I'm not going to argue with them. I'm going to pony up on a red horse and charge the blue enemy. If you want walk over to the sidelines & play tiddlywinks and criticize those who saddle up......well, it's a free country....but don't expect to receive any elevated measure of respect for the virtue posture. Quite the opposite.
I expect an elevated measure of self respect and I feel good.

As for "saddling up", you're riding for a renegade brand of outlaws in Paxton & the Dear Leader
And there we have it: the electorate can go to hell; OSO knows better.


Following your lead will take us to hell. I won't go with you
I'm not leading anything. I'm waiting for the outcome of the primaries. At this point, pretty agnostic about who wins. But whoever it is will get my best effort. I owe it to my kids and grandkids not to make some stupid, self-serving virtue posture that will strengthen forces harmful to them.


Yeah, I'm the enemy
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In reply to Osodecentx • 10:56a, 6/8/23
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
neverTrumper cult is twice the size of the Trump cult.
RINO gonna RINO.




I won't vote for Biden, but Never Trump
The cult lives on!
Always Trump All the Time
if Always Trump means never Trump in the primary, never progressive style liberalism in the General then yes..(maybe)
It means that white rock will Always defend Trump All the Time no matter how many indictments, bankruptcies, or lawsuits. Never Trump means I will never vote for Trump again. Twice is enough
If the voters decide that all that stuff is contrived political theater, I'm not going to argue with them. I'm going to pony up on a red horse and charge the blue enemy. If you want walk over to the sidelines & play tiddlywinks and criticize those who saddle up......well, it's a free country....but don't expect to receive any elevated measure of respect for the virtue posture. Quite the opposite.
I expect an elevated measure of self respect and I feel good.

As for "saddling up", you're riding for a renegade brand of outlaws in Paxton & the Dear Leader
And there we have it: the electorate can go to hell; OSO knows better.


Following your lead will take us to hell. I won't go with you
I'm not leading anything. I'm waiting for the outcome of the primaries. At this point, pretty agnostic about who wins. But whoever it is will get my best effort. I owe it to my kids and grandkids not to make some stupid, self-serving virtue posture that will strengthen forces harmful to them.


Yeah, I'm the enemy

No, you're not the enemy. But you are willing to fiddle while Rome burns.
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10:58a, 6/8/23
Establishment types facing some stiff winds.

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whiterock said:
Establishment types facing some stiff winds.

What I am curious about is if the actual definitions and the corresponding policy match up to what the people think they are. Personally, I believe people are more moderate than they believe when they see what a policy actually entails.
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In reply to Osodecentx • 12:21p, 6/8/23
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
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whiterock said:
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whiterock said:
neverTrumper cult is twice the size of the Trump cult.
RINO gonna RINO.




I won't vote for Biden, but Never Trump
The cult lives on!
Always Trump All the Time
if Always Trump means never Trump in the primary, never progressive style liberalism in the General then yes..(maybe)
It means that white rock will Always defend Trump All the Time no matter how many indictments, bankruptcies, or lawsuits. Never Trump means I will never vote for Trump again. Twice is enough
If the voters decide that all that stuff is contrived political theater, I'm not going to argue with them. I'm going to pony up on a red horse and charge the blue enemy. If you want walk over to the sidelines & play tiddlywinks and criticize those who saddle up......well, it's a free country....but don't expect to receive any elevated measure of respect for the virtue posture. Quite the opposite.
I expect an elevated measure of self respect and I feel good.

As for "saddling up", you're riding for a renegade brand of outlaws in Paxton & the Dear Leader
And there we have it: the electorate can go to hell; OSO knows better.


Following your lead will take us to hell. I won't go with you
That's Oso: Frequently wrong, but never in doubt!
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