AG Ken Paxton on glide path to impeachment

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Mothra
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boognish_bear said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

boognish_bear said:

Trump now giving himself the credit for springing Pax


Is there anything he cannot do?
be humble?
LOL. Got a chuckle out of that one.

Well played.
Mothra
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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

boognish_bear said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

boognish_bear said:

Trump now giving himself the credit for springing Pax


Is there anything he cannot do?
be humble?
I don't know. That seems like the fallacious line of argument that asks, "If G-d can do anything, then can he make a rock so heavy that he cannot lift it." We cannot expect a man of Trump's Trumpish Trumpiness to be humble. He is Omni-Trumpscient afterall.
So, I found out recently that when Trump visited the Dallas area pre-2016 election, he met with a group of prominent pastors in the area, including the pastor at the mega-Bible church we attended while living there. Trump was "sharing his faith" when one of the pastors, troubled by his testimony, asked him whether he had ever asked for forgiveness and accepted Christ's grace for the forgiveness of his sins. Trump's response was essentially, of course not, because I've done nothing I need to be forgiven for, and was offended by the question. It apparently went downhill from there, with all but one of the pastors refusing to get in line and support him (bet you can guess who the lone holdout was). Trump ended up insulting the whole lot, calling them "weak" and "pansies" (except for the one holdout of course) and abruptly left the meeting, pissed that his insults failed to sway the pastors.

He certainly has a way with people.
OsoCoreyell
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Mothra said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

boognish_bear said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

boognish_bear said:

Trump now giving himself the credit for springing Pax


Is there anything he cannot do?
be humble?
I don't know. That seems like the fallacious line of argument that asks, "If G-d can do anything, then can he make a rock so heavy that he cannot lift it." We cannot expect a man of Trump's Trumpish Trumpiness to be humble. He is Omni-Trumpscient afterall.
So, I found out recently that when Trump visited the Dallas area pre-2016 election, he met with a group of prominent pastors in the area, including the pastor at the mega-Bible church we attended while living there. Trump was "sharing his faith" when one of the pastors, troubled by his testimony, asked him whether he had ever asked for forgiveness and accepted Christ's grace for the forgiveness of his sins. Trump's response was essentially, of course not, because I've done nothing I need to be forgiven for, and was offended by the question. It apparently went downhill from there, with all but one of the pastors refusing to get in line and support him (bet you can guess who the lone holdout was). Trump ended up insulting the whole lot, calling them "weak" and "pansies" (except for the one holdout of course) and abruptly left the meeting, pissed that his insults failed to sway the pastors.

He certainly has a way with people.
And yet, so many pastors jumped in bed with him, some just lining up to get on CNN and Fox to put the credibility of The Gospel on the line so that they could get some points and spend a night in the Lincoln Bedroom. Made me want to projectile vomit. At least Billy Graham had the humility to admit he had made a grievous error by rallying support for Richard Nixon.
Mothra
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OsoCoreyell said:

Mothra said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

boognish_bear said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

boognish_bear said:

Trump now giving himself the credit for springing Pax


Is there anything he cannot do?
be humble?
I don't know. That seems like the fallacious line of argument that asks, "If G-d can do anything, then can he make a rock so heavy that he cannot lift it." We cannot expect a man of Trump's Trumpish Trumpiness to be humble. He is Omni-Trumpscient afterall.
So, I found out recently that when Trump visited the Dallas area pre-2016 election, he met with a group of prominent pastors in the area, including the pastor at the mega-Bible church we attended while living there. Trump was "sharing his faith" when one of the pastors, troubled by his testimony, asked him whether he had ever asked for forgiveness and accepted Christ's grace for the forgiveness of his sins. Trump's response was essentially, of course not, because I've done nothing I need to be forgiven for, and was offended by the question. It apparently went downhill from there, with all but one of the pastors refusing to get in line and support him (bet you can guess who the lone holdout was). Trump ended up insulting the whole lot, calling them "weak" and "pansies" (except for the one holdout of course) and abruptly left the meeting, pissed that his insults failed to sway the pastors.

He certainly has a way with people.
And yet, so many pastors jumped in bed with him, some just lining up to get on CNN and Fox to put the credibility of The Gospel on the line so that they could get some points and spend a night in the Lincoln Bedroom. Made me want to projectile vomit. At least Billy Graham had the humility to admit he had made a grievous error by rallying support for Richard Nixon.
There were certainly some who did, none that I respected, however. Thankfully. His support among evangelicals was vastly oversstated. Most of us held our nose and voted for him as the lesser of the evils.
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Wrecks Quan Dough
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Mothra said:

OsoCoreyell said:

Mothra said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

boognish_bear said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

boognish_bear said:

Trump now giving himself the credit for springing Pax


Is there anything he cannot do?
be humble?
I don't know. That seems like the fallacious line of argument that asks, "If G-d can do anything, then can he make a rock so heavy that he cannot lift it." We cannot expect a man of Trump's Trumpish Trumpiness to be humble. He is Omni-Trumpscient afterall.
So, I found out recently that when Trump visited the Dallas area pre-2016 election, he met with a group of prominent pastors in the area, including the pastor at the mega-Bible church we attended while living there. Trump was "sharing his faith" when one of the pastors, troubled by his testimony, asked him whether he had ever asked for forgiveness and accepted Christ's grace for the forgiveness of his sins. Trump's response was essentially, of course not, because I've done nothing I need to be forgiven for, and was offended by the question. It apparently went downhill from there, with all but one of the pastors refusing to get in line and support him (bet you can guess who the lone holdout was). Trump ended up insulting the whole lot, calling them "weak" and "pansies" (except for the one holdout of course) and abruptly left the meeting, pissed that his insults failed to sway the pastors.

He certainly has a way with people.
And yet, so many pastors jumped in bed with him, some just lining up to get on CNN and Fox to put the credibility of The Gospel on the line so that they could get some points and spend a night in the Lincoln Bedroom. Made me want to projectile vomit. At least Billy Graham had the humility to admit he had made a grievous error by rallying support for Richard Nixon.
There were certainly some who did, none that I respected, however. Thankfully. His support among evangelicals was vastly oversstated. Most of us held our nose and voted for him as the lesser of the evils.


He delivered with his SCOTUS picks.
Mothra
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Wrecks Quan Dough said:

Mothra said:

OsoCoreyell said:

Mothra said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

boognish_bear said:

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

boognish_bear said:

Trump now giving himself the credit for springing Pax


Is there anything he cannot do?
be humble?
I don't know. That seems like the fallacious line of argument that asks, "If G-d can do anything, then can he make a rock so heavy that he cannot lift it." We cannot expect a man of Trump's Trumpish Trumpiness to be humble. He is Omni-Trumpscient afterall.
So, I found out recently that when Trump visited the Dallas area pre-2016 election, he met with a group of prominent pastors in the area, including the pastor at the mega-Bible church we attended while living there. Trump was "sharing his faith" when one of the pastors, troubled by his testimony, asked him whether he had ever asked for forgiveness and accepted Christ's grace for the forgiveness of his sins. Trump's response was essentially, of course not, because I've done nothing I need to be forgiven for, and was offended by the question. It apparently went downhill from there, with all but one of the pastors refusing to get in line and support him (bet you can guess who the lone holdout was). Trump ended up insulting the whole lot, calling them "weak" and "pansies" (except for the one holdout of course) and abruptly left the meeting, pissed that his insults failed to sway the pastors.

He certainly has a way with people.
And yet, so many pastors jumped in bed with him, some just lining up to get on CNN and Fox to put the credibility of The Gospel on the line so that they could get some points and spend a night in the Lincoln Bedroom. Made me want to projectile vomit. At least Billy Graham had the humility to admit he had made a grievous error by rallying support for Richard Nixon.
There were certainly some who did, none that I respected, however. Thankfully. His support among evangelicals was vastly oversstated. Most of us held our nose and voted for him as the lesser of the evils.


He delivered with his SCOTUS picks.
Yup. It is why I would hold my nose and vote for him again over the current boob.
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I have not seen anyone mention how Phelan in the House disregarded precedents in the past two impeachments in the Texas House in how they conducted this process. You will find that they conducted the investigation in private, brought no witnesses before the investigating committee but instead elicited the testimony of a few investigators who they did not place under oath. In addition AG Paxton nor any of his legal team was allowed to present exculpatory evidence or cross examine the investigators before the committee. Which shows a political hit job rather than a fair process.

Don't believe me, instead I refer you to a youtube video by Representative John Smithee during the short debate before the House vote, where he explains his research on the past impeachments and how this was a totally unfair proceeding and basically mob action with allegations supported by no real evidence, but inuendo and supposition. Please look it up. It is about 19 minutes long and is one of the best speeches I have heard, directly on target. Then as Mr. Smithee stated after the House gives rights to the defendant Paxton as in cross examination and ability to provide written explanation for his actions, then have the vote in the House.

In my opinion Dade Phelan has given effective control of the House to democrats through his appointment of democrats to about 40% of the committee chairs and in his rulings. Even with a 84-65 advantage Phelan was elected Speaker with all democrat votes and some Republican votes. And Strauss before him was elected Speaker in the same manner. While Paxton is not lily white, he is a great conservative and he was elected by ten points after voters knew of these allegations. So I have told the Senators defeat him at the polls or shut the hell up.

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For real? Favors for a man like Nate Paul and asking us to pay whistleblowers? Uber whoring? Campaign funds sloshing between Patrick and Paxton?
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

For real? Favors for a man like Nate Paul and asking us to pay whistleblowers? Uber whoring? Campaign funds sloshing between Patrick and Paxton?


Cry more.
gtownbear
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Phelan is having fundraisers with DeSantis and events around the state in the near future. You do realize that money flows greatly to both parties and members of the Texas House and Senate do you not. We could throw those accusations around all day. It is meaningless in regards to this impeachment nonsense.

What is relevant is whether there is actual evidence to convince enough Senators to convict the individual you are impeaching. And what happened here is that there were emotions, suspicious actions, and inuendo that should have been vetted in the House as Representative Smithee so aptly put it, to see if they should move forward with the articles and send them to the Senate. It is likely that would have seen that there was not hard evidence and therefore the impeachment should not have proceeded. Thus much time and money would have been saved.

Democrats have to learn that they cannot just remove a conservative from office because they don't like him or her. It doesn't work that way. In addition it is dangerous to allow politicians to discount the will of the voters in a recent election when these allegations were known. The voters, 4,300,000 of them should be furious with the arrogance of these legislators willing to disregard their votes. I know I am.

If you have the evidence then impeach him. Without it as in this case, forget it. Defeat him at the ballot box.
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Non-Impeachment votes were cast based on the "R" by his name

I the words of the cowboy .... stop pissing on my boots and telling me it's raining



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Keyser Soze said:

Non-Impeachment votes were cast based on the "R" by his name

I the words of the cowboy .... stop pissing on my boots and telling me it's raining




Pissing in public is a Democrat thing.

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Yes, I believe over 40 Republicans in the House voted to impeach the Attorney General including my Representative. And that is why conservatives will mobilize to attempt to get conservative primary opponents for all of these Republicans who went along with the democrats and establishment to vote for impeachment.

This impeachment action will have far reaching impacts on Texas politics in the near future and at least through the next election cycle. And that will decide who has the upper hand in Republican politics in our state, the conservatives or the establishment. Years ago the Texas House was very conservative and the Senate was more moderate. Now the opposite is true. The Senate is the more conservative body.

And of course we will see if there are and what repercussions occur to the two Republican Senators in the Senate who I believe voted to convict on 13 of 16 articles. That would be Senator Nichols and Kelly Hancock who went to Baylor. The conservatives will go after them I am sure.
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gtownbear said:

Yes, I believe over 40 Republicans in the House voted to impeach the Attorney General including my Representative. And that is why conservatives will mobilize to attempt to get conservative primary opponents for all of these Republicans who went along with the democrats and establishment to vote for impeachment.

This impeachment action will have far reaching impacts on Texas politics in the near future and at least through the next election cycle. And that will decide who has the upper hand in Republican politics in our state, the conservatives or the establishment. Years ago the Texas House was very conservative and the Senate was more moderate. Now the opposite is true. The Senate is the more conservative body.

And of course we will see if there are and what repercussions occur to the two Republican Senators in the Senate who I believe voted to convict on 13 of 16 articles. That would be Senator Nichols and Kelly Hancock who went to Baylor. The conservatives will go after them I am sure.


I believe 61 Republicans voted to impeach
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You are correct. I was doing math with democrat numbers in the House. I stand corrected.
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gtownbear said:

You are correct. I was doing math with democrat numbers in the House. I stand corrected.

More like MAGA math
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Yep. Proud of it.
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gtownbear said:

Yep. Proud of it.
Not everyone is
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gtownbear
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Just us extreme MAGA folks that are for border control rather that open borders, law and order rather than rampant crime where criminals are not locked up, cheap fossil fuel and nuclear power rather than intermittent, unreliable, expensive wind and solar power, lower inflation and lower taxes. And of course promoting strength rather than weakness around the world.

Us nasty MAGA folks whose parents fought in WWII as whose two sons who served and have loved the country for over 75 years. And I wish success for everyone in the country and the country itself. Pretty sure I'm smart enough to know where the country was three years ago and where it is now. And how you characterize that sir I do not care.

The country is in trouble whether you think so or not.

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OsoCoreyell said:

KaiBear said:

Hopefully the Texas AG sees the handwriting on the wall and eventually steps aside for another Republican.
Nope. He will view this as a license to do anything he wants. He'll be gunning for Patrick's seat next.

Horrible outcome. Patrick is an idiot.
Yep. Winning the impeachment did make Paxton stronger, helped his chances to move up the ladder.

Paxton-phobes better hope the investigations result in convictions. If not, there's a good chance Paxton will be your next governor.




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Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

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Aliceinbubbleland said:

After listening all day today I think this is the best defense that can be offered at this time in hearings. Something about these 8 and Sutton doesn't set well. Also the bank President got to the top because of 44 years, not qualifications. He is either stupid or wanted to appear that way as something stinks about the foreclosure sale.

I don't know where Hardin was going today but it was boring. The young attorney, Cammack, was hung out to dry by Paul and Paxton. That was the only thing I could see today that meant Paxton was the creep I suspected him to be.

I had no clue until I got Buzbee's campaign flyer today that he is a MAGA. I never would have suspected him to be associated with them.
The question is, where are the swing Senators on the question of Sutton & the Gang of 8? Not sure about that, but know for sure that no sane elected official would want to reward someone else's palace coup with victory, when they are so dependent on their own staff.
LOL. You're just gobbling up what MQS is dishing out aren't you?

High level staff, all movement conservatives, suspect illegal activity. They report it to FBI. That isn't a palace coup, that is being honest . I guess dishonest state senators might see it as "rewarding the palace coup".

Convicting Paxton and removing him from office isn't rewarding the whistle blowers. It's thinning the herd of a dishonest AG; it would be rewarding the taxpayers of Texas. Republicans would also be the winners.
LOL so you do have a hard-on for MQS. So, I post video footage of the trial pulled from a MQS post and I'm gobbling his stuff? Ever heard of genetic fallacy?

You could not have been listening to the testimony. They provided, by their own words, no evidence of any illegal activity whatsoever. They were just "concerned" that it looked like something might happen (only it didn't).

You posts here make no sense. I am concerned you might be making meth in your bathroom. Expect the cops to arrive shortly.


You are gobbling up mucous ( MQS)

Meth?

Your glide path got gummed up with mucous


You win. Paxton is the face of the Texas Republican Party
You own him

No, the people of Texas do, but thanks for revealing the "vanity uber alles" that drives your thinking.

If/when he's convicted if something, I'll lead the charge to impeach. Until then, I'm going to work to punish the numbskulls who incompetently executed up a half-baked impeachment idea that could only have been worse politics had it succeeded.

What dumba$$es…..


He is the face of Republicans
He's your boy

I'll caucus with Paxton. And MQS. And Romney. And Bush. And Trump. And RDS. They and more are welcome in my tent. I'll even hold my nose and try not to bump into those pompous *******s Christie and Hutchinson, as long as they can bring themselves to show up. I'll caucus with anyone who will help me defeat progressive agendas. Sure, I may get mud on my shoes. Or have to take pictures with people I'm not terribly excited about, like that one with John Boehner. Oh the things one has to do to help a friend raise money. I might even have to defend something I'd rather not defend.

But if you're too good for that kind of stuff, by all means you be you. Be sure to be real loud about it. Otherwise people won't know how much more virtuous you are than the rest of us. Would be a shame to make the posture and nobody see it.

You seem to be at odds with your fellow travelers. They say the Bush family are trying to take over Texas? Do you believe that "globalists" were behind the impeachment of Paxton?
Are the state reps who voted to impeach welcome in your tent? Will you caucus with Dade Phelan?
Not at odds at all. Political coalitions are full of people who don't like each other. Also full of truces during election season. Most people are smart enough to understand that "never" caucuses are cul-de-sacs of hate and division, and steer clear. If you can't say something nice about the nominee, just don't say anything. Find a way to contribute and you'll see more progress toward your preferred objectives. If you get in front of the wagon, you won't get anywhere and you're likely to get run over. Etc....queue all the sound advice parents give about picking battles.

I am going to donate to Phelan's strongest primary opponent. And if Phelan wins, I'll do everything I can to see him dethroned as Speaker. However that ends up, I know not to trust his leadership skills, judgment, and teamwork ability and will keep an eye on him. Otherwise, it'll be time to find a way to make a truce and contribute something positive somewhere. We might need one another for something down the road, end up on a committee and commission somewhere. Families are like that. We work hard to like relatives we don't actually like, because we might have to sit at the same table with them at weddings and funerals, and don't want to make it any more uncomfortable than it already is for ourselves and the rest of the family.



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gtownbear said:

Just us extreme MAGA folks that are for border control rather that open borders, law and order rather than rampant crime where criminals are not locked up, cheap fossil fuel and nuclear power rather than intermittent, unreliable, expensive wind and solar power, lower inflation and lower taxes. And of course promoting strength rather than weakness around the world.

Us nasty MAGA folks whose parents fought in WWII as whose two sons who served and have loved the country for over 75 years. And I wish success for everyone in the country and the country itself. Pretty sure I'm smart enough to know where the country was three years ago and where it is now. And how you characterize that sir I do not care.

The country is in trouble whether you think so or not.


I 100% agree with everything you stated. Those are the foundation of our generation. Where I differ with MEGA is the unrealistic beliefs in conspiracies, the January 6th event and lack of belief in law. You cannot hold those principals stated above while supporting election fraud. And the biggest Daddy MAGA Trump is food for fools like MTG and Boebert
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bull.s.h.i.t

If someone believes an election was rigged, they have every right to protest, demand investigation and demonstrate their anger.

And while the idiots who committed violence deserve their consequences in court, it's telling how many on the Left have no interest in holding far more violent rioters accountable for their actions.

When ANTIFA thugs face no prosecution but non-violent protesters do, something is clearly wrong with the system.
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gtownbear said:

Just us extreme MAGA folks that are for border control rather that open borders, law and order rather than rampant crime where criminals are not locked up, cheap fossil fuel and nuclear power rather than intermittent, unreliable, expensive wind and solar power, lower inflation and lower taxes. And of course promoting strength rather than weakness around the world.

Us nasty MAGA folks whose parents fought in WWII as whose two sons who served and have loved the country for over 75 years. And I wish success for everyone in the country and the country itself. Pretty sure I'm smart enough to know where the country was three years ago and where it is now. And how you characterize that sir I do not care.

The country is in trouble whether you think so or not.


The country is in deep trouble. Trump won't get us out of it.

Extreme MAGA aren't the only folks that are for border control rather that open borders, law and order rather than rampant crime where criminals are not locked up, cheap fossil fuel and nuclear power.

I'd add sanctity of life to your excellent list.
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whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Aliceinbubbleland said:

After listening all day today I think this is the best defense that can be offered at this time in hearings. Something about these 8 and Sutton doesn't set well. Also the bank President got to the top because of 44 years, not qualifications. He is either stupid or wanted to appear that way as something stinks about the foreclosure sale.

I don't know where Hardin was going today but it was boring. The young attorney, Cammack, was hung out to dry by Paul and Paxton. That was the only thing I could see today that meant Paxton was the creep I suspected him to be.

I had no clue until I got Buzbee's campaign flyer today that he is a MAGA. I never would have suspected him to be associated with them.
The question is, where are the swing Senators on the question of Sutton & the Gang of 8? Not sure about that, but know for sure that no sane elected official would want to reward someone else's palace coup with victory, when they are so dependent on their own staff.
LOL. You're just gobbling up what MQS is dishing out aren't you?

High level staff, all movement conservatives, suspect illegal activity. They report it to FBI. That isn't a palace coup, that is being honest . I guess dishonest state senators might see it as "rewarding the palace coup".

Convicting Paxton and removing him from office isn't rewarding the whistle blowers. It's thinning the herd of a dishonest AG; it would be rewarding the taxpayers of Texas. Republicans would also be the winners.
LOL so you do have a hard-on for MQS. So, I post video footage of the trial pulled from a MQS post and I'm gobbling his stuff? Ever heard of genetic fallacy?

You could not have been listening to the testimony. They provided, by their own words, no evidence of any illegal activity whatsoever. They were just "concerned" that it looked like something might happen (only it didn't).

You posts here make no sense. I am concerned you might be making meth in your bathroom. Expect the cops to arrive shortly.


You are gobbling up mucous ( MQS)

Meth?

Your glide path got gummed up with mucous


You win. Paxton is the face of the Texas Republican Party
You own him

No, the people of Texas do, but thanks for revealing the "vanity uber alles" that drives your thinking.

If/when he's convicted if something, I'll lead the charge to impeach. Until then, I'm going to work to punish the numbskulls who incompetently executed up a half-baked impeachment idea that could only have been worse politics had it succeeded.

What dumba$$es…..


He is the face of Republicans
He's your boy

I'll caucus with Paxton. And MQS. And Romney. And Bush. And Trump. And RDS. They and more are welcome in my tent. I'll even hold my nose and try not to bump into those pompous *******s Christie and Hutchinson, as long as they can bring themselves to show up. I'll caucus with anyone who will help me defeat progressive agendas. Sure, I may get mud on my shoes. Or have to take pictures with people I'm not terribly excited about, like that one with John Boehner. Oh the things one has to do to help a friend raise money. I might even have to defend something I'd rather not defend.

But if you're too good for that kind of stuff, by all means you be you. Be sure to be real loud about it. Otherwise people won't know how much more virtuous you are than the rest of us. Would be a shame to make the posture and nobody see it.

You seem to be at odds with your fellow travelers. They say the Bush family are trying to take over Texas? Do you believe that "globalists" were behind the impeachment of Paxton?
Are the state reps who voted to impeach welcome in your tent? Will you caucus with Dade Phelan?
Not at odds at all. Political coalitions are full of people who don't like each other. Also full of truces during election season. Most people are smart enough to understand that "never" caucuses are cul-de-sacs of hate and division, and steer clear. If you can't say something nice about the nominee, just don't say anything. Find a way to contribute and you'll see more progress toward your preferred objectives. If you get in front of the wagon, you won't get anywhere and you're likely to get run over. Etc....queue all the sound advice parents give about picking battles.

I am going to donate to Phelan's strongest primary opponent. And if Phelan wins, I'll do everything I can to see him dethroned as Speaker. However that ends up, I know not to trust his leadership skills, judgment, and teamwork ability and will keep an eye on him. Otherwise, it'll be time to find a way to make a truce and contribute something positive somewhere. We might need one another for something down the road, end up on a committee and commission somewhere. Families are like that. We work hard to like relatives we don't actually like, because we might have to sit at the same table with them at weddings and funerals, and don't want to make it any more uncomfortable than it already is for ourselves and the rest of the family.
Like I said, it sounds like the state reps who voted to impeach aren't welcome in your tent.
First - you'll oppose Phelan in the primary, then oppose him for Speaker, but if he is Speaker you might need to use him so ...

Continue to make the tent smaller like Democrats did in the 90's
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Oldbear83 said:

bull.s.h.i.t

If someone believes an election was rigged, they have every right to protest, demand investigation and demonstrate their anger.

And while the idiots who committed violence deserve their consequences in court, it's telling how many on the Left have no interest in holding far more violent rioters accountable for their actions.

When ANTIFA thugs face no prosecution but non-violent protesters do, something is clearly wrong with the system.


The problem with your post is that it lacks a factual basis. Nobody in the administration believed election fraud tipped the election. They believed that they could use that story as a cover for holding onto power despite the directions of the state legislatures.

Ignoring the Constitution based on one own's lust for power (actually fame) is not "protesting."

I agree that rioters should be punished. There is a difference between taking a TV and trying to stop Congress from doing its job, however.
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The one lacking facts seems to be you, Frank.
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Oldbear83 said:

The one lacking facts seems to be you, Frank.


Well your group has had three years to provide facts but has come up with squat, so maybe you should try again.
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Aliceinbubbleland said:

gtownbear said:

Just us extreme MAGA folks that are for border control rather that open borders, law and order rather than rampant crime where criminals are not locked up, cheap fossil fuel and nuclear power rather than intermittent, unreliable, expensive wind and solar power, lower inflation and lower taxes. And of course promoting strength rather than weakness around the world.

Us nasty MAGA folks whose parents fought in WWII as whose two sons who served and have loved the country for over 75 years. And I wish success for everyone in the country and the country itself. Pretty sure I'm smart enough to know where the country was three years ago and where it is now. And how you characterize that sir I do not care.

The country is in trouble whether you think so or not.


I 100% agree with everything you stated. Those are the foundation of our generation. Where I differ with MEGA is the unrealistic beliefs in conspiracies, the January 6th event and lack of belief in law. You cannot hold those principals stated above while supporting election fraud. And the biggest Daddy MAGA Trump is food for fools like MTG and Boebert
LOL..... Election denial - democrats spend 4 years screaming Trump was an illegitimate president because of the Russian collusion hoax.

Unrealistic beliefs in conspiracies? I'm old enough to remember when liberals tried to say that 9/11 was an inside job by the Bush administration trying to appease his oil and military manufacturing buddies.

Lack of belief in law? Are you kidding me? Liberals burned down cities for months while democrats lied and called them peaceful protests and even supported them!

Holy chit, I've read some stupid crap on this board, but your post wins the boobie prize.
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Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

bull.s.h.i.t

If someone believes an election was rigged, they have every right to protest, demand investigation and demonstrate their anger.

And while the idiots who committed violence deserve their consequences in court, it's telling how many on the Left have no interest in holding far more violent rioters accountable for their actions.

When ANTIFA thugs face no prosecution but non-violent protesters do, something is clearly wrong with the system.


The problem with your post is that it lacks a factual basis. Nobody in the administration believed election fraud tipped the election. They believed that they could use that story as a cover for holding onto power despite the directions of the state legislatures.

Ignoring the Constitution based on one own's lust for power (actually fame) is not "protesting."

I agree that rioters should be punished. There is a difference between taking a TV and trying to stop Congress from doing its job, however.
They did a lot more than take TVs... but you know that.
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Frank Galvin said:

Oldbear83 said:

The one lacking facts seems to be you, Frank.


Well your group has had three years to provide facts but has come up with squat, so maybe you should try again.
Says the man who ignores all that has been dug up.

No concern about the President based on 'Weekend at Bernies'?
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
 
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