Calvin Klein: Budweiser, hold my beer!

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Waco1947
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

JXL said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Remind me again how this or bud light really affects your life?
Ah yes, the usual suspects triggered by these types of posts...

Calm down, little guy. It's called capitalism.
no bruh, just a simple question. But as usual, you can't answer the question and resort to name calling like your deal leader.


There are lots of ways pushing social agendas affect people, especially campaigns aimed at children. That's pretty elementary.
Bud light and calvin klein are aimed at kids? Huh.
I don't think I said or suggested that. Target's campaign certainly was aimed at children. Perhaps you were unaware of that.

As a purported "conservative," it's quite odd you have a problem with conservatives speaking out against liberal social agendas.
Never said i had a problem with conservatives speaking out. You must have missed that and created your own argument as you consistently do.

I was just asking how this really affects people's lives. Not meant with any ill intent, just an honest question.


Are people limited to only commenting about matters directly affecting them? Presumably that rule only applies to other people and not to you?
Yes, if it attacks human for their gender identity. T under lying issue is for you, posters, here see it as abnormal.
Reality check. God made two genders. T
So? I get that there are two ganders but God said nothing about how we see ourselves sexually or gender identity. our gender it, nether did Jesus. Gender identity is different for people. Why should that concern you?
You are wrong. There are much more than two ganders. I have not seen the latest bird census data.

There are just two genders.
Ganders good catch : ) Sorry my man.
Yes, there are two genders but gender identity is fluid.


Is racial identity fluid? Is age identity fluid?
Of course
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LIB,MR BEARS
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Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

JXL said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Remind me again how this or bud light really affects your life?
Ah yes, the usual suspects triggered by these types of posts...

Calm down, little guy. It's called capitalism.
no bruh, just a simple question. But as usual, you can't answer the question and resort to name calling like your deal leader.


There are lots of ways pushing social agendas affect people, especially campaigns aimed at children. That's pretty elementary.
Bud light and calvin klein are aimed at kids? Huh.
I don't think I said or suggested that. Target's campaign certainly was aimed at children. Perhaps you were unaware of that.

As a purported "conservative," it's quite odd you have a problem with conservatives speaking out against liberal social agendas.
Never said i had a problem with conservatives speaking out. You must have missed that and created your own argument as you consistently do.

I was just asking how this really affects people's lives. Not meant with any ill intent, just an honest question.


Are people limited to only commenting about matters directly affecting them? Presumably that rule only applies to other people and not to you?
Yes, if it attacks human for their gender identity. T under lying issue is for you, posters, here see it as abnormal.
Reality check. God made two genders. T
So? I get that there are two ganders but God said nothing about how we see ourselves sexually or gender identity. our gender it, nether did Jesus. Gender identity is different for people. Why should that concern you?
You are wrong. There are much more than two ganders. I have not seen the latest bird census data.

There are just two genders.
Ganders good catch : ) Sorry my man.
Yes, there are two genders but gender identity is fluid.


Is racial identity fluid? Is age identity fluid?
Of course
Please explain how racial identity and age identity are fluid.

Is lottery winner identity also fluid?
Harrison Bergeron
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Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

JXL said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Remind me again how this or bud light really affects your life?
Ah yes, the usual suspects triggered by these types of posts...

Calm down, little guy. It's called capitalism.
no bruh, just a simple question. But as usual, you can't answer the question and resort to name calling like your deal leader.


There are lots of ways pushing social agendas affect people, especially campaigns aimed at children. That's pretty elementary.
Bud light and calvin klein are aimed at kids? Huh.
I don't think I said or suggested that. Target's campaign certainly was aimed at children. Perhaps you were unaware of that.

As a purported "conservative," it's quite odd you have a problem with conservatives speaking out against liberal social agendas.
Never said i had a problem with conservatives speaking out. You must have missed that and created your own argument as you consistently do.

I was just asking how this really affects people's lives. Not meant with any ill intent, just an honest question.


Are people limited to only commenting about matters directly affecting them? Presumably that rule only applies to other people and not to you?
Yes, if it attacks human for their gender identity. T under lying issue is for you, posters, here see it as abnormal.
Reality check. God made two genders. T
So? I get that there are two ganders but God said nothing about how we see ourselves sexually or gender identity. our gender it, nether did Jesus. Gender identity is different for people. Why should that concern you?
You are wrong. There are much more than two ganders. I have not seen the latest bird census data.

There are just two genders.
Ganders good catch : ) Sorry my man.
Yes, there are two genders but gender identity is fluid.


Is racial identity fluid? Is age identity fluid?
Of course
So every person should qualify for social security or affirmative action by simply identifying as older than 65 or as black?

(FWIW - I do appreciate your odd consistency)
Jack Bauer
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Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

JXL said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Remind me again how this or bud light really affects your life?
Ah yes, the usual suspects triggered by these types of posts...

Calm down, little guy. It's called capitalism.
no bruh, just a simple question. But as usual, you can't answer the question and resort to name calling like your deal leader.


There are lots of ways pushing social agendas affect people, especially campaigns aimed at children. That's pretty elementary.
Bud light and calvin klein are aimed at kids? Huh.
I don't think I said or suggested that. Target's campaign certainly was aimed at children. Perhaps you were unaware of that.

As a purported "conservative," it's quite odd you have a problem with conservatives speaking out against liberal social agendas.
Never said i had a problem with conservatives speaking out. You must have missed that and created your own argument as you consistently do.

I was just asking how this really affects people's lives. Not meant with any ill intent, just an honest question.


Are people limited to only commenting about matters directly affecting them? Presumably that rule only applies to other people and not to you?
Yes, if it attacks human for their gender identity. T under lying issue is for you, posters, here see it as abnormal.
Reality check. God made two genders. T
So? I get that there are two ganders but God said nothing about how we see ourselves sexually or gender identity. our gender it, nether did Jesus. Gender identity is different for people. Why should that concern you?
You are wrong. There are much more than two ganders. I have not seen the latest bird census data.

There are just two genders.
Ganders good catch : ) Sorry my man.
Yes, there are two genders but gender identity is fluid.


Is racial identity fluid? Is age identity fluid?
Of course

A 40 year old man can identify as a 16 year old girl and share their locker room/bathrooms???
LIB,MR BEARS
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Y'all can thank me later:

I identify as perpetually cancer-free and I encourage all others to join me. I will be working with the public library to set up a reading time soon. Please ignore the balled-heads and IVs. It's just how we roll.
contrario
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LateSteak69 said:

Jack Bauer said:

LateSteak69 said:

Remind me again how this or bud light really affects your life?

Companies advertise to (potential) customers. Insulting your customers is not a smart move.

Showing men in beards as the equivalent of biological females is pretty stupid.
i get that it's not that smart from a marketing perspective, but people seem to lose their **** when Bud Light, Target, etc. put out these ads. I don't really get that.
To put it in terms you would be understand, it would be like Nike hiring Marjorie Taylor Greene to be their next spokesperson. It wouldn't impact you in any way, but you wouldn't want to buy shoes from Nike anymore and some people on the left may actually go as far as to burn the Nike stuff they already have. These businesses know they would face major backlash if they hired someone or promoted an ideology from the right, so they don't do it. But for some reason, businesses think pandering to the extreme left will help them win some social points, but it is backfiring. It's a calculated misstep and businesses keep doing it over and over.

I personally don't have a problem with any of these things. I don't care if a business wants to market to trans people. I won't stop shopping at Target because they have some pro-trans clothing. I also wouldn't stop shopping at Target if they had a Marjorie Taylor Greene line of shoes. I'm not the average person though. Most people get butt-hurt by these types of things and the companies need to be smart about the marketing moves they make - they know they will face pushback if they market to the right so they don't do it; they need to accept that they will also face pushback if they market to the left. The extremist nuts from both parties don't tolerate anything that challenges their worldviews and it goes as far as t-shirts.
nein51
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Jack Bauer said:

Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

JXL said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Remind me again how this or bud light really affects your life?
Ah yes, the usual suspects triggered by these types of posts...

Calm down, little guy. It's called capitalism.
no bruh, just a simple question. But as usual, you can't answer the question and resort to name calling like your deal leader.


There are lots of ways pushing social agendas affect people, especially campaigns aimed at children. That's pretty elementary.
Bud light and calvin klein are aimed at kids? Huh.
I don't think I said or suggested that. Target's campaign certainly was aimed at children. Perhaps you were unaware of that.

As a purported "conservative," it's quite odd you have a problem with conservatives speaking out against liberal social agendas.
Never said i had a problem with conservatives speaking out. You must have missed that and created your own argument as you consistently do.

I was just asking how this really affects people's lives. Not meant with any ill intent, just an honest question.


Are people limited to only commenting about matters directly affecting them? Presumably that rule only applies to other people and not to you?
Yes, if it attacks human for their gender identity. T under lying issue is for you, posters, here see it as abnormal.
Reality check. God made two genders. T
So? I get that there are two ganders but God said nothing about how we see ourselves sexually or gender identity. our gender it, nether did Jesus. Gender identity is different for people. Why should that concern you?
You are wrong. There are much more than two ganders. I have not seen the latest bird census data.

There are just two genders.
Ganders good catch : ) Sorry my man.
Yes, there are two genders but gender identity is fluid.


Is racial identity fluid? Is age identity fluid?
Of course

A 40 year old man can identify as a 16 year old girl and share their locker room/bathrooms???

I identify as a 65 year old. Please hand me my SS income now
Harrison Bergeron
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contrario said:

LateSteak69 said:

Jack Bauer said:

LateSteak69 said:

Remind me again how this or bud light really affects your life?

Companies advertise to (potential) customers. Insulting your customers is not a smart move.

Showing men in beards as the equivalent of biological females is pretty stupid.
i get that it's not that smart from a marketing perspective, but people seem to lose their **** when Bud Light, Target, etc. put out these ads. I don't really get that.
To put it in terms you would be understand, it would be like Nike hiring Marjorie Taylor Greene to be their next spokesperson. It wouldn't impact you in any way, but you wouldn't want to buy shoes from Nike anymore and some people on the left may actually go as far as to burn the Nike stuff they already have. These businesses know they would face major backlash if they hired someone or promoted an ideology from the right, so they don't do it. But for some reason, businesses think pandering to the extreme left will help them win some social points, but it is backfiring. It's a calculated misstep and businesses keep doing it over and over.

I personally don't have a problem with any of these things. I don't care if a business wants to market to trans people. I won't stop shopping at Target because they have some pro-trans clothing. I also wouldn't stop shopping at Target if they had a Marjorie Taylor Greene line of shoes. I'm not the average person though. Most people get butt-hurt by these types of things and the companies need to be smart about the marketing moves they make - they know they will face pushback if they market to the right so they don't do it; they need to accept that they will also face pushback if they market to the left. The extremist nuts from both parties don't tolerate anything that challenges their worldviews and it goes as far as t-shirts.
In some regards, the corporations know what they're doing. Studies have shown that regressives are much more passionate about the Culture War issues and willing to punish corporations for expressing diverse views or not expressing authoritarian talking points. Generally, conservatives have been "live and let live" and regressives more "kneel before Zod." So it is a calculated gamble - maybe Bud Light and Target will show the tide has turned and conservatives are fed up with corporations being fascist arms of the state.
Harrison Bergeron
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nein51 said:

Jack Bauer said:

Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

JXL said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Remind me again how this or bud light really affects your life?
Ah yes, the usual suspects triggered by these types of posts...

Calm down, little guy. It's called capitalism.
no bruh, just a simple question. But as usual, you can't answer the question and resort to name calling like your deal leader.


There are lots of ways pushing social agendas affect people, especially campaigns aimed at children. That's pretty elementary.
Bud light and calvin klein are aimed at kids? Huh.
I don't think I said or suggested that. Target's campaign certainly was aimed at children. Perhaps you were unaware of that.

As a purported "conservative," it's quite odd you have a problem with conservatives speaking out against liberal social agendas.
Never said i had a problem with conservatives speaking out. You must have missed that and created your own argument as you consistently do.

I was just asking how this really affects people's lives. Not meant with any ill intent, just an honest question.


Are people limited to only commenting about matters directly affecting them? Presumably that rule only applies to other people and not to you?
Yes, if it attacks human for their gender identity. T under lying issue is for you, posters, here see it as abnormal.
Reality check. God made two genders. T
So? I get that there are two ganders but God said nothing about how we see ourselves sexually or gender identity. our gender it, nether did Jesus. Gender identity is different for people. Why should that concern you?
You are wrong. There are much more than two ganders. I have not seen the latest bird census data.

There are just two genders.
Ganders good catch : ) Sorry my man.
Yes, there are two genders but gender identity is fluid.


Is racial identity fluid? Is age identity fluid?
Of course

A 40 year old man can identify as a 16 year old girl and share their locker room/bathrooms???

I identify as a 65 year old. Please hand me my SS income now
I identify as a black San Francisco resident - can I geta mizza reparations?
contrario
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Harrison Bergeron said:

contrario said:

LateSteak69 said:

Jack Bauer said:

LateSteak69 said:

Remind me again how this or bud light really affects your life?

Companies advertise to (potential) customers. Insulting your customers is not a smart move.

Showing men in beards as the equivalent of biological females is pretty stupid.
i get that it's not that smart from a marketing perspective, but people seem to lose their **** when Bud Light, Target, etc. put out these ads. I don't really get that.
To put it in terms you would be understand, it would be like Nike hiring Marjorie Taylor Greene to be their next spokesperson. It wouldn't impact you in any way, but you wouldn't want to buy shoes from Nike anymore and some people on the left may actually go as far as to burn the Nike stuff they already have. These businesses know they would face major backlash if they hired someone or promoted an ideology from the right, so they don't do it. But for some reason, businesses think pandering to the extreme left will help them win some social points, but it is backfiring. It's a calculated misstep and businesses keep doing it over and over.

I personally don't have a problem with any of these things. I don't care if a business wants to market to trans people. I won't stop shopping at Target because they have some pro-trans clothing. I also wouldn't stop shopping at Target if they had a Marjorie Taylor Greene line of shoes. I'm not the average person though. Most people get butt-hurt by these types of things and the companies need to be smart about the marketing moves they make - they know they will face pushback if they market to the right so they don't do it; they need to accept that they will also face pushback if they market to the left. The extremist nuts from both parties don't tolerate anything that challenges their worldviews and it goes as far as t-shirts.
In some regards, the corporations know what they're doing. Studies have shown that regressives are much more passionate about the Culture War issues and willing to punish corporations for expressing diverse views or not expressing authoritarian talking points. Generally, conservatives have been "live and let live" and regressives more "kneel before Zod." So it is a calculated gamble - maybe Bud Light and Target will show the tide has turned and conservatives are fed up with corporations being fascist arms of the state.
Conservatives have not really been live and let live. Sure, moderate conservatives probably have been, but I've been seeing "Put Christ back in Christmas" bumper stickers for 30 years and that was at least partially a response to stores not saying "Merry Christmas" at Christmas time during the shopping season. Since then, there have been CD/merch burnings for the Dixie Chicks, Keurig, Amazon, NFL, Starbuck's, Kellogg's, Disney for various reasons, {insert a bunch of other random "protests" of businesses that I don't feel like looking up}, and now Target/Budweiser/Calvin Klein. There are just as many nuts on the right as there are on the left. If you think there are less nuts on "your side", that's because you may agree with those nuts more than you are willing to admit.
Wangchung
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contrario said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

contrario said:

LateSteak69 said:

Jack Bauer said:

LateSteak69 said:

Remind me again how this or bud light really affects your life?

Companies advertise to (potential) customers. Insulting your customers is not a smart move.

Showing men in beards as the equivalent of biological females is pretty stupid.
i get that it's not that smart from a marketing perspective, but people seem to lose their **** when Bud Light, Target, etc. put out these ads. I don't really get that.
To put it in terms you would be understand, it would be like Nike hiring Marjorie Taylor Greene to be their next spokesperson. It wouldn't impact you in any way, but you wouldn't want to buy shoes from Nike anymore and some people on the left may actually go as far as to burn the Nike stuff they already have. These businesses know they would face major backlash if they hired someone or promoted an ideology from the right, so they don't do it. But for some reason, businesses think pandering to the extreme left will help them win some social points, but it is backfiring. It's a calculated misstep and businesses keep doing it over and over.

I personally don't have a problem with any of these things. I don't care if a business wants to market to trans people. I won't stop shopping at Target because they have some pro-trans clothing. I also wouldn't stop shopping at Target if they had a Marjorie Taylor Greene line of shoes. I'm not the average person though. Most people get butt-hurt by these types of things and the companies need to be smart about the marketing moves they make - they know they will face pushback if they market to the right so they don't do it; they need to accept that they will also face pushback if they market to the left. The extremist nuts from both parties don't tolerate anything that challenges their worldviews and it goes as far as t-shirts.
In some regards, the corporations know what they're doing. Studies have shown that regressives are much more passionate about the Culture War issues and willing to punish corporations for expressing diverse views or not expressing authoritarian talking points. Generally, conservatives have been "live and let live" and regressives more "kneel before Zod." So it is a calculated gamble - maybe Bud Light and Target will show the tide has turned and conservatives are fed up with corporations being fascist arms of the state.
Conservatives have not really been live and let live. Sure, moderate conservatives probably have been, but I've been seeing "Put Christ back in Christmas" bumper stickers for 30 years and that was at least partially a response to stores not saying "Merry Christmas" at Christmas time during the shopping season. Since then, there have been CD/merch burnings for the Dixie Chicks, Keurig, Amazon, NFL, Starbuck's, Kellogg's, Disney for various reasons, {insert a bunch of other random "protests" of businesses that I don't feel like looking up}, and now Target/Budweiser/Calvin Klein. There are just as many nuts on the right as there are on the left. If you think there are less nuts on "your side", that's because you may agree with those nuts more than you are willing to admit.
Most of the "nuts" on the right want less anti-Christian behaviors, most nuts on the left want less Christianity. Our nuts are not the same.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

contrario
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Wangchung said:

contrario said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

contrario said:

LateSteak69 said:

Jack Bauer said:

LateSteak69 said:

Remind me again how this or bud light really affects your life?

Companies advertise to (potential) customers. Insulting your customers is not a smart move.

Showing men in beards as the equivalent of biological females is pretty stupid.
i get that it's not that smart from a marketing perspective, but people seem to lose their **** when Bud Light, Target, etc. put out these ads. I don't really get that.
To put it in terms you would be understand, it would be like Nike hiring Marjorie Taylor Greene to be their next spokesperson. It wouldn't impact you in any way, but you wouldn't want to buy shoes from Nike anymore and some people on the left may actually go as far as to burn the Nike stuff they already have. These businesses know they would face major backlash if they hired someone or promoted an ideology from the right, so they don't do it. But for some reason, businesses think pandering to the extreme left will help them win some social points, but it is backfiring. It's a calculated misstep and businesses keep doing it over and over.

I personally don't have a problem with any of these things. I don't care if a business wants to market to trans people. I won't stop shopping at Target because they have some pro-trans clothing. I also wouldn't stop shopping at Target if they had a Marjorie Taylor Greene line of shoes. I'm not the average person though. Most people get butt-hurt by these types of things and the companies need to be smart about the marketing moves they make - they know they will face pushback if they market to the right so they don't do it; they need to accept that they will also face pushback if they market to the left. The extremist nuts from both parties don't tolerate anything that challenges their worldviews and it goes as far as t-shirts.
In some regards, the corporations know what they're doing. Studies have shown that regressives are much more passionate about the Culture War issues and willing to punish corporations for expressing diverse views or not expressing authoritarian talking points. Generally, conservatives have been "live and let live" and regressives more "kneel before Zod." So it is a calculated gamble - maybe Bud Light and Target will show the tide has turned and conservatives are fed up with corporations being fascist arms of the state.
Conservatives have not really been live and let live. Sure, moderate conservatives probably have been, but I've been seeing "Put Christ back in Christmas" bumper stickers for 30 years and that was at least partially a response to stores not saying "Merry Christmas" at Christmas time during the shopping season. Since then, there have been CD/merch burnings for the Dixie Chicks, Keurig, Amazon, NFL, Starbuck's, Kellogg's, Disney for various reasons, {insert a bunch of other random "protests" of businesses that I don't feel like looking up}, and now Target/Budweiser/Calvin Klein. There are just as many nuts on the right as there are on the left. If you think there are less nuts on "your side", that's because you may agree with those nuts more than you are willing to admit.
Most of the "nuts" on the right want less anti-Christian behaviors, most nuts on the left want less Christianity. Our nuts are not the same.
I see you agree with those nuts more than you are willing to admit. Or in your case, you probably are willing to admit it.
Harrison Bergeron
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contrario said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

contrario said:

LateSteak69 said:

Jack Bauer said:

LateSteak69 said:

Remind me again how this or bud light really affects your life?

Companies advertise to (potential) customers. Insulting your customers is not a smart move.

Showing men in beards as the equivalent of biological females is pretty stupid.
i get that it's not that smart from a marketing perspective, but people seem to lose their **** when Bud Light, Target, etc. put out these ads. I don't really get that.
To put it in terms you would be understand, it would be like Nike hiring Marjorie Taylor Greene to be their next spokesperson. It wouldn't impact you in any way, but you wouldn't want to buy shoes from Nike anymore and some people on the left may actually go as far as to burn the Nike stuff they already have. These businesses know they would face major backlash if they hired someone or promoted an ideology from the right, so they don't do it. But for some reason, businesses think pandering to the extreme left will help them win some social points, but it is backfiring. It's a calculated misstep and businesses keep doing it over and over.

I personally don't have a problem with any of these things. I don't care if a business wants to market to trans people. I won't stop shopping at Target because they have some pro-trans clothing. I also wouldn't stop shopping at Target if they had a Marjorie Taylor Greene line of shoes. I'm not the average person though. Most people get butt-hurt by these types of things and the companies need to be smart about the marketing moves they make - they know they will face pushback if they market to the right so they don't do it; they need to accept that they will also face pushback if they market to the left. The extremist nuts from both parties don't tolerate anything that challenges their worldviews and it goes as far as t-shirts.
In some regards, the corporations know what they're doing. Studies have shown that regressives are much more passionate about the Culture War issues and willing to punish corporations for expressing diverse views or not expressing authoritarian talking points. Generally, conservatives have been "live and let live" and regressives more "kneel before Zod." So it is a calculated gamble - maybe Bud Light and Target will show the tide has turned and conservatives are fed up with corporations being fascist arms of the state.
Conservatives have not really been live and let live. Sure, moderate conservatives probably have been, but I've been seeing "Put Christ back in Christmas" bumper stickers for 30 years and that was at least partially a response to stores not saying "Merry Christmas" at Christmas time during the shopping season. Since then, there have been CD/merch burnings for the Dixie Chicks, Keurig, Amazon, NFL, Starbuck's, Kellogg's, Disney for various reasons, {insert a bunch of other random "protests" of businesses that I don't feel like looking up}, and now Target/Budweiser/Calvin Klein. There are just as many nuts on the right as there are on the left. If you think there are less nuts on "your side", that's because you may agree with those nuts more than you are willing to admit.
You're missing the simple nuance and falsly trying to equate starting vs. responding to extremism. As I thought I stated pretty clearly in sixth grade English above, most conservatives are "live and let live" and do not demand corporations parrot their politics or look to celebrities for their political opinions. Few conservatives are demanding corporations or singer speak out in favor of pro-life causes or the Bill or Rights.

Conversely, the regressives more often demand corporations post gay- or burn loot murder-themed posts, merchandise, etc. The right might respond to that but like all Culture War issues only in response to what the regressives start. Data continually suggests that conservatives prefer non-political entities to stay neutural whereas regressives more often deman "Kneel Before Zod" and submit to the agenda.

Also, you confuse Cancel Culture with simple boycotts. The regressives are never satisfied with a boycott beause they know they like the will or clout but instead prefer Cancel Culture fueled by hyperbolic, Orwellian disinformation. The list of those Cancelled by the regressives in one week is longer than any conservative boycott. So as usual the false equivalency and whataboutism is false.

Maybe a timely simple example is the Gaystapo demanding the Los Angeles Dodges invite an anti-Christian hate group to participate in its gay activities. Conservatives would prefer MLB not get involved in divisive Culture War issues, but the regressives demand they invite bigoted hate groups as long as their regressive.
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Wait, now boycotts are mean?

Fre3dombear
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Add Kohls to the list for ****** baby gear

Democrats are evil
Harrison Bergeron
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Jack Bauer said:

Wait, now boycotts are mean?


Ironic - Target has been in the book banning biz.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/checkpoints/202011/burn-book
Jack Bauer
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Data from Bump Williams Consulting and Nielsen IQ provided to Newsweek shows sales by volume are down 29.5% for the week ending May 20 compared to last year. Sales are down 25.7% for revenue compared to the same time window.
Harrison Bergeron
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Jack Bauer said:

Data from Bump Williams Consulting and Nielsen IQ provided to Newsweek shows sales by volume are down 29.5% for the week ending May 20 compared to last year. Sales are down 25.7% for revenue compared to the same time window.
It's encouraging to see those who believe in science and protecting children from pedophiles getting some traction against the groomer extremists.
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Waco1947 said:

when the said person actually needs help,

Bigotry pure and simple
You calling someone a bigot is a joke.

You are the most racist, bigoted person on these forums.

YES, people that want to cut off their body parts to become something they are not, and never can be
need help.

1) They don't need condemnation if they do it, they need love and people that are there for them I agree with that.
They are not one bit less human or a creation of God. Or any less loved, but they have an obvious emotional/mental disorder that makes them want to mutilate their given body.

2) It's still not normal/stable/sane or whatever you want to call it, to want to do this to yourself.

Another member of the boards explained this much better than I can. ATL Bear I believe.

Good grief you calling someone a bigot is such a joke, grow up.
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nein51 said:

Jack Bauer said:

Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

JXL said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Remind me again how this or bud light really affects your life?
Ah yes, the usual suspects triggered by these types of posts...

Calm down, little guy. It's called capitalism.
no bruh, just a simple question. But as usual, you can't answer the question and resort to name calling like your deal leader.


There are lots of ways pushing social agendas affect people, especially campaigns aimed at children. That's pretty elementary.
Bud light and calvin klein are aimed at kids? Huh.
I don't think I said or suggested that. Target's campaign certainly was aimed at children. Perhaps you were unaware of that.

As a purported "conservative," it's quite odd you have a problem with conservatives speaking out against liberal social agendas.
Never said i had a problem with conservatives speaking out. You must have missed that and created your own argument as you consistently do.

I was just asking how this really affects people's lives. Not meant with any ill intent, just an honest question.


Are people limited to only commenting about matters directly affecting them? Presumably that rule only applies to other people and not to you?
Yes, if it attacks human for their gender identity. T under lying issue is for you, posters, here see it as abnormal.
Reality check. God made two genders. T
So? I get that there are two ganders but God said nothing about how we see ourselves sexually or gender identity. our gender it, nether did Jesus. Gender identity is different for people. Why should that concern you?
You are wrong. There are much more than two ganders. I have not seen the latest bird census data.

There are just two genders.
Ganders good catch : ) Sorry my man.
Yes, there are two genders but gender identity is fluid.


Is racial identity fluid? Is age identity fluid?
Of course

A 40 year old man can identify as a 16 year old girl and share their locker room/bathrooms???

I identify as a 65 year old. Please hand me my SS income now
Identify as 67. You can get full SS payments then.
nein51
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Forest Bueller_bf said:

nein51 said:

Jack Bauer said:

Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

JXL said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Remind me again how this or bud light really affects your life?
Ah yes, the usual suspects triggered by these types of posts...

Calm down, little guy. It's called capitalism.
no bruh, just a simple question. But as usual, you can't answer the question and resort to name calling like your deal leader.


There are lots of ways pushing social agendas affect people, especially campaigns aimed at children. That's pretty elementary.
Bud light and calvin klein are aimed at kids? Huh.
I don't think I said or suggested that. Target's campaign certainly was aimed at children. Perhaps you were unaware of that.

As a purported "conservative," it's quite odd you have a problem with conservatives speaking out against liberal social agendas.
Never said i had a problem with conservatives speaking out. You must have missed that and created your own argument as you consistently do.

I was just asking how this really affects people's lives. Not meant with any ill intent, just an honest question.


Are people limited to only commenting about matters directly affecting them? Presumably that rule only applies to other people and not to you?
Yes, if it attacks human for their gender identity. T under lying issue is for you, posters, here see it as abnormal.
Reality check. God made two genders. T
So? I get that there are two ganders but God said nothing about how we see ourselves sexually or gender identity. our gender it, nether did Jesus. Gender identity is different for people. Why should that concern you?
You are wrong. There are much more than two ganders. I have not seen the latest bird census data.

There are just two genders.
Ganders good catch : ) Sorry my man.
Yes, there are two genders but gender identity is fluid.


Is racial identity fluid? Is age identity fluid?
Of course

A 40 year old man can identify as a 16 year old girl and share their locker room/bathrooms???

I identify as a 65 year old. Please hand me my SS income now
Identify as 67. You can get full SS payments then.

Amazing. I just got older
Frank Galvin
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Yes, Calvin Klein is known for chnaging the conversation to avoid bad publicity:

Frank Galvin
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Jack Bauer said:

Data from Bump Williams Consulting and Nielsen IQ provided to Newsweek shows sales by volume are down 29.5% for the week ending May 20 compared to last year. Sales are down 25.7% for revenue compared to the same time window.
It's encouraging to see those who believe in science and protecting children from pedophiles getting some traction against the groomer extremists.
Then it is time for them to turn their full attention and market power to the Catholic Church and the many Christian youth camps where predatory conduct is an established tradition.
Wangchung
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Frank Galvin said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Jack Bauer said:

Data from Bump Williams Consulting and Nielsen IQ provided to Newsweek shows sales by volume are down 29.5% for the week ending May 20 compared to last year. Sales are down 25.7% for revenue compared to the same time window.
It's encouraging to see those who believe in science and protecting children from pedophiles getting some traction against the groomer extremists.
Then it is time for them to turn their full attention and market power to the Catholic Church and the many Christian youth camps where predatory conduct is an established tradition.
Good point! We should totally ignore the pedophiles in group A because pedophiles exist in group B, also.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

Jack Bauer
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MSM slant;
Hayley Williams threatens DeSantis supporters from expressing themselves! This is literally terrorism!!!!!!!!

Harrison Bergeron
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Wangchung said:

Frank Galvin said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Jack Bauer said:

Data from Bump Williams Consulting and Nielsen IQ provided to Newsweek shows sales by volume are down 29.5% for the week ending May 20 compared to last year. Sales are down 25.7% for revenue compared to the same time window.
It's encouraging to see those who believe in science and protecting children from pedophiles getting some traction against the groomer extremists.
Then it is time for them to turn their full attention and market power to the Catholic Church and the many Christian youth camps where predatory conduct is an established tradition.
Good point! We should totally ignore the pedophiles in group A because pedophiles exist in group B, also.
Common tactic when one lack's the intellectual ability to make a cogent argument - just distract with whataboutism and red herrings ... the obsession with grooming kids is weird, but they're passionate about it.
Waco1947
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These boycotts are bigotry pure and simple.
Waco1947 ,la
GrowlTowel
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Waco1947 said:

These boycotts are bigotry pure and simple.
And, your point is?
Wangchung
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GrowlTowel said:

Waco1947 said:

These boycotts are bigotry pure and simple.
And, your point is?
Her point is to say we shouldn't be mistreating pedophiles.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

Jack Bauer
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Waco1947 said:

These boycotts are bigotry pure and simple.

"pure and simple" is not an explanation. it's a copout.
Harrison Bergeron
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Waco1947 said:

These boycotts are bigotry pure and simple.
Incorrect.
LIB,MR BEARS
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Waco1947 said:

These boycotts are bigotry pure and simple.

Would you boycott a Klan rally? Why or why not?
Frank Galvin
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Wangchung said:

Frank Galvin said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Jack Bauer said:

Data from Bump Williams Consulting and Nielsen IQ provided to Newsweek shows sales by volume are down 29.5% for the week ending May 20 compared to last year. Sales are down 25.7% for revenue compared to the same time window.
It's encouraging to see those who believe in science and protecting children from pedophiles getting some traction against the groomer extremists.
Then it is time for them to turn their full attention and market power to the Catholic Church and the many Christian youth camps where predatory conduct is an established tradition.
Good point! We should totally ignore the pedophiles in group A because pedophiles exist in group B, also.
Common tactic when one lack's the intellectual ability to make a cogent argument - just distract with whataboutism and red herrings ... the obsession with grooming kids is weird, but they're passionate about it.
For the past six months the constant drumbeat from the right has been the predatory danger of woke politics and in particular sexualizing children. Drag performers are regularly referred to as predators.One of the two leading candidates for the GOP nomination seems to be basing his enitre campaign on this aspect of the culture war. GOP led legislatures acrtoss the country have made "protecting our children" their number one priority. And you have the gall to say the left has an obsession with grooming? Wow, pot and kettle have had a huge collision.

It is more to fair to ask the Christian right why, if they see the sexualization of and/or predatory conduct directeed at children to be the key issue of the campaign, why do they stand silent in the face of regular, repeated, and wide-spread abuse on children and women in the church setting.



Harrison Bergeron
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Frank Galvin said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Wangchung said:

Frank Galvin said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Jack Bauer said:

Data from Bump Williams Consulting and Nielsen IQ provided to Newsweek shows sales by volume are down 29.5% for the week ending May 20 compared to last year. Sales are down 25.7% for revenue compared to the same time window.
It's encouraging to see those who believe in science and protecting children from pedophiles getting some traction against the groomer extremists.
Then it is time for them to turn their full attention and market power to the Catholic Church and the many Christian youth camps where predatory conduct is an established tradition.
Good point! We should totally ignore the pedophiles in group A because pedophiles exist in group B, also.
Common tactic when one lack's the intellectual ability to make a cogent argument - just distract with whataboutism and red herrings ... the obsession with grooming kids is weird, but they're passionate about it.
For the past six months the constant drumbeat from the right has been the predatory danger of woke politics and in particular sexualizing children. Drag performers are regularly referred to as predators.One of the two leading candidates for the GOP nomination seems to be basing his enitre campaign on this aspect of the culture war. GOP led legislatures acrtoss the country have made "protecting our children" their number one priority. And you have the gall to say the left has an obsession with grooming? Wow, pot and kettle have had a huge collision.

It is more to fair to ask the Christian right why, if they see the sexualization of and/or predatory conduct directeed at children to be the key issue of the campaign, why do they stand silent in the face of regular, repeated, and wide-spread abuse on children and women in the church setting.
Common tactic when one lack's the intellectual ability to make a cogent argument - just distract with whataboutism and red herrings ... the obsession with grooming kids is weird, but they're passionate about it.
Frank Galvin
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Frank Galvin said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Wangchung said:

Frank Galvin said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Jack Bauer said:

Data from Bump Williams Consulting and Nielsen IQ provided to Newsweek shows sales by volume are down 29.5% for the week ending May 20 compared to last year. Sales are down 25.7% for revenue compared to the same time window.
It's encouraging to see those who believe in science and protecting children from pedophiles getting some traction against the groomer extremists.
Then it is time for them to turn their full attention and market power to the Catholic Church and the many Christian youth camps where predatory conduct is an established tradition.
Good point! We should totally ignore the pedophiles in group A because pedophiles exist in group B, also.
Common tactic when one lack's the intellectual ability to make a cogent argument - just distract with whataboutism and red herrings ... the obsession with grooming kids is weird, but they're passionate about it.
For the past six months the constant drumbeat from the right has been the predatory danger of woke politics and in particular sexualizing children. Drag performers are regularly referred to as predators.One of the two leading candidates for the GOP nomination seems to be basing his enitre campaign on this aspect of the culture war. GOP led legislatures acrtoss the country have made "protecting our children" their number one priority. And you have the gall to say the left has an obsession with grooming? Wow, pot and kettle have had a huge collision.

It is more to fair to ask the Christian right why, if they see the sexualization of and/or predatory conduct directeed at children to be the key issue of the campaign, why do they stand silent in the face of regular, repeated, and wide-spread abuse on children and women in the church setting.
Common tactic when one lack's the intellectual ability to make a cogent argument - just distract with whataboutism and red herrings ... the obsession with grooming kids is weird, but they're passionate about it.
Common tactic is to just ignore reality.

Pointing out that the larger danger to children and women is different than what is being legislated against is a straight forward criticism of the right's current obssession.
 
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