Calvin Klein: Budweiser, hold my beer!

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Porteroso
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

Porteroso said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Porteroso said:

There is certainly a lot of unwarranted outrage over ads like this. Personally it's a little disgusting, it bewilders me, and I will probably avoid Calvin Klein products from now on, but some of you take it far beyond that. I also think this woman mutilated her body, but I can't be certain that he/she/they isn't happy. This is adults exercising freedoms. Not an opportunity to trash people.

It is easy for disgust to turn into hate, and that leads to problems. It sort of justifies the trans lifestyle in these people's minds. In some weird way. I think it's good to talk of the harm mutilating one's body can bring, but we can do that while still respecting these human beings. Someone trying to change genders doesn't need hate, they need help.

The standard for acceptable protest/boycott actions is up to and including what you would do but not beyond. Got it.

I just hold the above opinion, that the extreme outrage and hate are unwarranted and bad. Is it ok for me to have this opinion, or maybe does my opinion hurt you in some way?
You gave us the standard for "unwarranted outrage." It is anything above and beyond what you deem appropriate. We should be thanking you.

I see, you are taking my opinion to be the law. I need to get some sort of design going for a flag so you can fly my colors at your house. No, thank YOU sir!
Oldbear83
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Poor Porteroso, he needs to calm down.

Someone get him a Fake Lady Light Beer.
Harrison Bergeron
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Porteroso said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Porteroso said:

There is certainly a lot of unwarranted outrage over ads like this. Personally it's a little disgusting, it bewilders me, and I will probably avoid Calvin Klein products from now on, but some of you take it far beyond that. I also think this woman mutilated her body, but I can't be certain that he/she/they isn't happy. This is adults exercising freedoms. Not an opportunity to trash people.

It is easy for disgust to turn into hate, and that leads to problems. It sort of justifies the trans lifestyle in these people's minds. In some weird way. I think it's good to talk of the harm mutilating one's body can bring, but we can do that while still respecting these human beings. Someone trying to change genders doesn't need hate, they need help.

The standard for acceptable protest/boycott actions is up to and including what you would do but not beyond. Got it.

I just hold the above opinion, that the extreme outrage and hate are unwarranted and bad. Is it ok for me to have this opinion, or maybe does my opinion hurt you in some way?
I do not always agree with you, but I respect your opions and points as almost always well thought out. Genuinely curious:
1. What is the defintion of "extreme outrage?" For example, I would easily define "extreme outrage" as the burning, looting, and murdering of 2020 - $4B and at least 14 murders in response to disinformation felt "extreme." Are all boycotts "extreme?" What makes a boycott "extreme?" I feel like wanting to groom and sexualize children is "extreme" and opposing it is a logical and moral response to protest conversastion therapy and pedophilia.

2. What is the defintion of "hate?" Do you have an example of hate directed at a trans person / community related to politics? For example, I would define the trans group that mocks Chritianity, Jesus, and Catholicism as an anti-Christian hate group (the group that was invited to the Dodgers gay celebration). Do you have similar examples of mainstream organizations celebrating groups that similar mock gays?

There is extreme outrage over these sorts of societal issues from both sides. People tweet and twit about them like it is the end of America. I know it is just an act from many of them, but it is often an extreme response in my opinion.

To 2, I do not know of political hate towards too many groups at all, from either political party. I don't think I mentioned politics, I'm talking about this as a societal issue.
Maybe it was ignorance, maybe it was stupidity, maybe it was intentional, but you ignored the simple quetions presented, so I will ask again:

1. What is the defintion of "extreme outrage?" For example, I would easily define "extreme outrage" as the burning, looting, and murdering of 2020 - $4B and at least 14 murders in response to disinformation felt "extreme." Are all boycotts "extreme?" What makes a boycott "extreme?" I feel like wanting to groom and sexualize children is "extreme" and opposing it is a logical and moral response to protest conversastion therapy and pedophilia.

2. What is the defintion of "hate?" Do you have an example of hate directed at a trans person / community related to politics? For example, I would define the trans group that mocks Chritianity, Jesus, and Catholicism as an anti-Christian hate group (the group that was invited to the Dodgers gay celebration). Do you have similar examples of mainstream organizations celebrating groups that similar mock gays?

Porteroso
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Porteroso said:

There is certainly a lot of unwarranted outrage over ads like this. Personally it's a little disgusting, it bewilders me, and I will probably avoid Calvin Klein products from now on, but some of you take it far beyond that. I also think this woman mutilated her body, but I can't be certain that he/she/they isn't happy. This is adults exercising freedoms. Not an opportunity to trash people.

It is easy for disgust to turn into hate, and that leads to problems. It sort of justifies the trans lifestyle in these people's minds. In some weird way. I think it's good to talk of the harm mutilating one's body can bring, but we can do that while still respecting these human beings. Someone trying to change genders doesn't need hate, they need help.

The standard for acceptable protest/boycott actions is up to and including what you would do but not beyond. Got it.

I just hold the above opinion, that the extreme outrage and hate are unwarranted and bad. Is it ok for me to have this opinion, or maybe does my opinion hurt you in some way?
I do not always agree with you, but I respect your opions and points as almost always well thought out. Genuinely curious:
1. What is the defintion of "extreme outrage?" For example, I would easily define "extreme outrage" as the burning, looting, and murdering of 2020 - $4B and at least 14 murders in response to disinformation felt "extreme." Are all boycotts "extreme?" What makes a boycott "extreme?" I feel like wanting to groom and sexualize children is "extreme" and opposing it is a logical and moral response to protest conversastion therapy and pedophilia.

2. What is the defintion of "hate?" Do you have an example of hate directed at a trans person / community related to politics? For example, I would define the trans group that mocks Chritianity, Jesus, and Catholicism as an anti-Christian hate group (the group that was invited to the Dodgers gay celebration). Do you have similar examples of mainstream organizations celebrating groups that similar mock gays?

There is extreme outrage over these sorts of societal issues from both sides. People tweet and twit about them like it is the end of America. I know it is just an act from many of them, but it is often an extreme response in my opinion.

To 2, I do not know of political hate towards too many groups at all, from either political party. I don't think I mentioned politics, I'm talking about this as a societal issue.
Maybe it was ignorance, maybe it was stupidity, maybe it was intentional, but you ignored the simple quetions presented, so I will ask again:

1. What is the defintion of "extreme outrage?" For example, I would easily define "extreme outrage" as the burning, looting, and murdering of 2020 - $4B and at least 14 murders in response to disinformation felt "extreme." Are all boycotts "extreme?" What makes a boycott "extreme?" I feel like wanting to groom and sexualize children is "extreme" and opposing it is a logical and moral response to protest conversastion therapy and pedophilia.

2. What is the defintion of "hate?" Do you have an example of hate directed at a trans person / community related to politics? For example, I would define the trans group that mocks Chritianity, Jesus, and Catholicism as an anti-Christian hate group (the group that was invited to the Dodgers gay celebration). Do you have similar examples of mainstream organizations celebrating groups that similar mock gays?



I thought you wanted a real answer. Do you not have a dictionary in your house?
D. C. Bear
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Porteroso said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Porteroso said:

There is certainly a lot of unwarranted outrage over ads like this. Personally it's a little disgusting, it bewilders me, and I will probably avoid Calvin Klein products from now on, but some of you take it far beyond that. I also think this woman mutilated her body, but I can't be certain that he/she/they isn't happy. This is adults exercising freedoms. Not an opportunity to trash people.

It is easy for disgust to turn into hate, and that leads to problems. It sort of justifies the trans lifestyle in these people's minds. In some weird way. I think it's good to talk of the harm mutilating one's body can bring, but we can do that while still respecting these human beings. Someone trying to change genders doesn't need hate, they need help.

The standard for acceptable protest/boycott actions is up to and including what you would do but not beyond. Got it.

I just hold the above opinion, that the extreme outrage and hate are unwarranted and bad. Is it ok for me to have this opinion, or maybe does my opinion hurt you in some way?
I do not always agree with you, but I respect your opions and points as almost always well thought out. Genuinely curious:
1. What is the defintion of "extreme outrage?" For example, I would easily define "extreme outrage" as the burning, looting, and murdering of 2020 - $4B and at least 14 murders in response to disinformation felt "extreme." Are all boycotts "extreme?" What makes a boycott "extreme?" I feel like wanting to groom and sexualize children is "extreme" and opposing it is a logical and moral response to protest conversastion therapy and pedophilia.

2. What is the defintion of "hate?" Do you have an example of hate directed at a trans person / community related to politics? For example, I would define the trans group that mocks Chritianity, Jesus, and Catholicism as an anti-Christian hate group (the group that was invited to the Dodgers gay celebration). Do you have similar examples of mainstream organizations celebrating groups that similar mock gays?

There is extreme outrage over these sorts of societal issues from both sides. People tweet and twit about them like it is the end of America. I know it is just an act from many of them, but it is often an extreme response in my opinion.

To 2, I do not know of political hate towards too many groups at all, from either political party. I don't think I mentioned politics, I'm talking about this as a societal issue.
Maybe it was ignorance, maybe it was stupidity, maybe it was intentional, but you ignored the simple quetions presented, so I will ask again:

1. What is the defintion of "extreme outrage?" For example, I would easily define "extreme outrage" as the burning, looting, and murdering of 2020 - $4B and at least 14 murders in response to disinformation felt "extreme." Are all boycotts "extreme?" What makes a boycott "extreme?" I feel like wanting to groom and sexualize children is "extreme" and opposing it is a logical and moral response to protest conversastion therapy and pedophilia.

2. What is the defintion of "hate?" Do you have an example of hate directed at a trans person / community related to politics? For example, I would define the trans group that mocks Chritianity, Jesus, and Catholicism as an anti-Christian hate group (the group that was invited to the Dodgers gay celebration). Do you have similar examples of mainstream organizations celebrating groups that similar mock gays?



I thought you wanted a real answer. Do you not have a dictionary in your house?


In fairness, people, including you, tend to have definitions that may not entirely match Mr. Webster's.
Porteroso
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D. C. Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Porteroso said:

There is certainly a lot of unwarranted outrage over ads like this. Personally it's a little disgusting, it bewilders me, and I will probably avoid Calvin Klein products from now on, but some of you take it far beyond that. I also think this woman mutilated her body, but I can't be certain that he/she/they isn't happy. This is adults exercising freedoms. Not an opportunity to trash people.

It is easy for disgust to turn into hate, and that leads to problems. It sort of justifies the trans lifestyle in these people's minds. In some weird way. I think it's good to talk of the harm mutilating one's body can bring, but we can do that while still respecting these human beings. Someone trying to change genders doesn't need hate, they need help.

The standard for acceptable protest/boycott actions is up to and including what you would do but not beyond. Got it.

I just hold the above opinion, that the extreme outrage and hate are unwarranted and bad. Is it ok for me to have this opinion, or maybe does my opinion hurt you in some way?
I do not always agree with you, but I respect your opions and points as almost always well thought out. Genuinely curious:
1. What is the defintion of "extreme outrage?" For example, I would easily define "extreme outrage" as the burning, looting, and murdering of 2020 - $4B and at least 14 murders in response to disinformation felt "extreme." Are all boycotts "extreme?" What makes a boycott "extreme?" I feel like wanting to groom and sexualize children is "extreme" and opposing it is a logical and moral response to protest conversastion therapy and pedophilia.

2. What is the defintion of "hate?" Do you have an example of hate directed at a trans person / community related to politics? For example, I would define the trans group that mocks Chritianity, Jesus, and Catholicism as an anti-Christian hate group (the group that was invited to the Dodgers gay celebration). Do you have similar examples of mainstream organizations celebrating groups that similar mock gays?

There is extreme outrage over these sorts of societal issues from both sides. People tweet and twit about them like it is the end of America. I know it is just an act from many of them, but it is often an extreme response in my opinion.

To 2, I do not know of political hate towards too many groups at all, from either political party. I don't think I mentioned politics, I'm talking about this as a societal issue.
Maybe it was ignorance, maybe it was stupidity, maybe it was intentional, but you ignored the simple quetions presented, so I will ask again:

1. What is the defintion of "extreme outrage?" For example, I would easily define "extreme outrage" as the burning, looting, and murdering of 2020 - $4B and at least 14 murders in response to disinformation felt "extreme." Are all boycotts "extreme?" What makes a boycott "extreme?" I feel like wanting to groom and sexualize children is "extreme" and opposing it is a logical and moral response to protest conversastion therapy and pedophilia.

2. What is the defintion of "hate?" Do you have an example of hate directed at a trans person / community related to politics? For example, I would define the trans group that mocks Chritianity, Jesus, and Catholicism as an anti-Christian hate group (the group that was invited to the Dodgers gay celebration). Do you have similar examples of mainstream organizations celebrating groups that similar mock gays?



I thought you wanted a real answer. Do you not have a dictionary in your house?


In fairness, people, including you, tend to have definitions that may not entirely match Mr. Webster's.

An example? I don't recall making up alternative definitions of words. Surely you have something in mind? I hope it's "zealot."
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Porteroso said:

D. C. Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Porteroso said:

There is certainly a lot of unwarranted outrage over ads like this. Personally it's a little disgusting, it bewilders me, and I will probably avoid Calvin Klein products from now on, but some of you take it far beyond that. I also think this woman mutilated her body, but I can't be certain that he/she/they isn't happy. This is adults exercising freedoms. Not an opportunity to trash people.

It is easy for disgust to turn into hate, and that leads to problems. It sort of justifies the trans lifestyle in these people's minds. In some weird way. I think it's good to talk of the harm mutilating one's body can bring, but we can do that while still respecting these human beings. Someone trying to change genders doesn't need hate, they need help.

The standard for acceptable protest/boycott actions is up to and including what you would do but not beyond. Got it.

I just hold the above opinion, that the extreme outrage and hate are unwarranted and bad. Is it ok for me to have this opinion, or maybe does my opinion hurt you in some way?
I do not always agree with you, but I respect your opions and points as almost always well thought out. Genuinely curious:
1. What is the defintion of "extreme outrage?" For example, I would easily define "extreme outrage" as the burning, looting, and murdering of 2020 - $4B and at least 14 murders in response to disinformation felt "extreme." Are all boycotts "extreme?" What makes a boycott "extreme?" I feel like wanting to groom and sexualize children is "extreme" and opposing it is a logical and moral response to protest conversastion therapy and pedophilia.

2. What is the defintion of "hate?" Do you have an example of hate directed at a trans person / community related to politics? For example, I would define the trans group that mocks Chritianity, Jesus, and Catholicism as an anti-Christian hate group (the group that was invited to the Dodgers gay celebration). Do you have similar examples of mainstream organizations celebrating groups that similar mock gays?

There is extreme outrage over these sorts of societal issues from both sides. People tweet and twit about them like it is the end of America. I know it is just an act from many of them, but it is often an extreme response in my opinion.

To 2, I do not know of political hate towards too many groups at all, from either political party. I don't think I mentioned politics, I'm talking about this as a societal issue.
Maybe it was ignorance, maybe it was stupidity, maybe it was intentional, but you ignored the simple quetions presented, so I will ask again:

1. What is the defintion of "extreme outrage?" For example, I would easily define "extreme outrage" as the burning, looting, and murdering of 2020 - $4B and at least 14 murders in response to disinformation felt "extreme." Are all boycotts "extreme?" What makes a boycott "extreme?" I feel like wanting to groom and sexualize children is "extreme" and opposing it is a logical and moral response to protest conversastion therapy and pedophilia.

2. What is the defintion of "hate?" Do you have an example of hate directed at a trans person / community related to politics? For example, I would define the trans group that mocks Chritianity, Jesus, and Catholicism as an anti-Christian hate group (the group that was invited to the Dodgers gay celebration). Do you have similar examples of mainstream organizations celebrating groups that similar mock gays?



I thought you wanted a real answer. Do you not have a dictionary in your house?


In fairness, people, including you, tend to have definitions that may not entirely match Mr. Webster's.

An example? I don't recall making up alternative definitions of words. Surely you have something in mind? I hope it's "zealot."


If you're using a dictionary definition you're intentionally misusing "hate" and "extreme." I gave you credit for employing an alternative definition rather than intentionally deceiving.
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What is bigotry? Read this thread:12 Hours from Conservatives losing their mind -- Pride Month
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nein51
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Waco1947 said:

What is bigotry? Read this thread:12 Hours from Conservatives losing their mind -- Pride Month

We are all racist, bigoted, ageist, classist, narcissistic beings.

So what? If you can't deal with the subtle differences between "I don't want my 14 year old daughter in a locker room with a *****" and "we should throw gays from buildings" that's a you problem.

The problem with "the gays" is that they don't know when to stop. Very, very, very few people in the United States think gays shouldn't exist and should be eradicated by any means necessary. Like virtual no one thinks that. Some do but there are loads of crazy people in every society.

Lots and lots and lots of people wish they didn't have to have a clear gay agenda foist on them or their kids every time they turn on the TV or go to Target. That's because "they gays" make up a relatively small % of the population but seriously never shut the f&ck up about their gayness. No one on the planet talks about their sexual identity as often as "the gays", some of whom seem to think being gay IS an identity.
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Waco1947 said:

What is bigotry? Read this thread:12 Hours from Conservatives losing their mind -- Pride Month


So you can't define the bigoted terms you use to slander anyone with a diverse opinion?
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Porteroso said:

D. C. Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Porteroso said:

There is certainly a lot of unwarranted outrage over ads like this. Personally it's a little disgusting, it bewilders me, and I will probably avoid Calvin Klein products from now on, but some of you take it far beyond that. I also think this woman mutilated her body, but I can't be certain that he/she/they isn't happy. This is adults exercising freedoms. Not an opportunity to trash people.

It is easy for disgust to turn into hate, and that leads to problems. It sort of justifies the trans lifestyle in these people's minds. In some weird way. I think it's good to talk of the harm mutilating one's body can bring, but we can do that while still respecting these human beings. Someone trying to change genders doesn't need hate, they need help.

The standard for acceptable protest/boycott actions is up to and including what you would do but not beyond. Got it.

I just hold the above opinion, that the extreme outrage and hate are unwarranted and bad. Is it ok for me to have this opinion, or maybe does my opinion hurt you in some way?
I do not always agree with you, but I respect your opions and points as almost always well thought out. Genuinely curious:
1. What is the defintion of "extreme outrage?" For example, I would easily define "extreme outrage" as the burning, looting, and murdering of 2020 - $4B and at least 14 murders in response to disinformation felt "extreme." Are all boycotts "extreme?" What makes a boycott "extreme?" I feel like wanting to groom and sexualize children is "extreme" and opposing it is a logical and moral response to protest conversastion therapy and pedophilia.

2. What is the defintion of "hate?" Do you have an example of hate directed at a trans person / community related to politics? For example, I would define the trans group that mocks Chritianity, Jesus, and Catholicism as an anti-Christian hate group (the group that was invited to the Dodgers gay celebration). Do you have similar examples of mainstream organizations celebrating groups that similar mock gays?

There is extreme outrage over these sorts of societal issues from both sides. People tweet and twit about them like it is the end of America. I know it is just an act from many of them, but it is often an extreme response in my opinion.

To 2, I do not know of political hate towards too many groups at all, from either political party. I don't think I mentioned politics, I'm talking about this as a societal issue.
Maybe it was ignorance, maybe it was stupidity, maybe it was intentional, but you ignored the simple quetions presented, so I will ask again:

1. What is the defintion of "extreme outrage?" For example, I would easily define "extreme outrage" as the burning, looting, and murdering of 2020 - $4B and at least 14 murders in response to disinformation felt "extreme." Are all boycotts "extreme?" What makes a boycott "extreme?" I feel like wanting to groom and sexualize children is "extreme" and opposing it is a logical and moral response to protest conversastion therapy and pedophilia.

2. What is the defintion of "hate?" Do you have an example of hate directed at a trans person / community related to politics? For example, I would define the trans group that mocks Chritianity, Jesus, and Catholicism as an anti-Christian hate group (the group that was invited to the Dodgers gay celebration). Do you have similar examples of mainstream organizations celebrating groups that similar mock gays?



I thought you wanted a real answer. Do you not have a dictionary in your house?


In fairness, people, including you, tend to have definitions that may not entirely match Mr. Webster's.

An example? I don't recall making up alternative definitions of words. Surely you have something in mind? I hope it's "zealot."


The dictionary definition of a word does not always capture the nuances that individuals and groups apply to them. For example, you seem to think that "extreme outrage" involves angry posts on Twitter while others think "extreme outrage" is better exemplified by burning the house down. In fairness, there's nothing wrong with asking you to clarify what you mean by particular terms.
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Waco1947 said:

What is bigotry? Read this thread:12 Hours from Conservatives losing their mind -- Pride Month


In your book, "bigotry" is when you don't want to paint the crosswalks at your factory in rainbow colors to "celebrate" the sexually deviant lifestyle choices of others. It is not enough to say that people have a legal right to act immorally, instead you call anyone who does not sing the praises of the LBGTQ+ movement a bigot. That "plus" on the end inevitably will include "minor attracted persons" and your ilk will be making excuses for it.

"Bigotry" in your book is also thinking that mentally ill kids deserve mental health treatment that reflects their physical reality rather than their psychological delusions. You have gone so far off the deep end that you think we should believe, or at least pretend, that a biological man, by virtue of having his ***** removed and getting a bunch of hormone shots, is actually a woman or that if we whack of a woman's breasts and pump her full of testosterone she is now a man. However, that isn't how reality works.

Throwing out the "bigotry" label when it does not apply, as you do, is a worthless ad hominem attack.
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nein51 said:

Waco1947 said:

What is bigotry? Read this thread:12 Hours from Conservatives losing their mind -- Pride Month

We are all racist, bigoted, ageist, classist, narcissistic beings.

So what? If you can't deal with the subtle differences between "I don't want my 14 year old daughter in a locker room with a *****" and "we should throw gays from buildings" that's a you problem.

The problem with "the gays" is that they don't know when to stop. Very, very, very few people in the United States think gays shouldn't exist and should be eradicated by any means necessary. Like virtual no one thinks that. Some do but there are loads of crazy people in every society.

Lots and lots and lots of people wish they didn't have to have a clear gay agenda foist on them or their kids every time they turn on the TV or go to Target. That's because "they gays" make up a relatively small % of the population but seriously never shut the f&ck up about their gayness. No one on the planet talks about their sexual identity as often as "the gays", some of whom seem to think being gay IS an identity.
trans vegans < Illinois Nazis
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D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

What is bigotry? Read this thread:12 Hours from Conservatives losing their mind -- Pride Month


In your book, "bigotry" is when you don't want to paint the crosswalks at your factory in rainbow colors to "celebrate" the sexually deviant lifestyle choices of others. It is not enough to say that people have a legal right to act immorally, instead you call anyone who does not sing the praises of the LBGTQ+ movement a bigot. That "plus" on the end inevitably will include "minor attracted persons" and your ilk will be making excuses for it.

"Bigotry" in your book is also thinking that mentally ill kids deserve mental health treatment that reflects their physical reality rather than their psychological delusions. You have gone so far off the deep end that you think we should believe, or at least pretend, that a biological man, by virtue of having his ***** removed and getting a bunch of hormone shots, is actually a woman or that if we whack of a woman's breasts and pump her full of testosterone she is now a man. However, that isn't how reality works.

Throwing out the "bigotry" label when it does not apply, as you do, is a worthless ad hominem attack.
Hear, hear
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Porteroso said:

D. C. Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Porteroso said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Porteroso said:

There is certainly a lot of unwarranted outrage over ads like this. Personally it's a little disgusting, it bewilders me, and I will probably avoid Calvin Klein products from now on, but some of you take it far beyond that. I also think this woman mutilated her body, but I can't be certain that he/she/they isn't happy. This is adults exercising freedoms. Not an opportunity to trash people.

It is easy for disgust to turn into hate, and that leads to problems. It sort of justifies the trans lifestyle in these people's minds. In some weird way. I think it's good to talk of the harm mutilating one's body can bring, but we can do that while still respecting these human beings. Someone trying to change genders doesn't need hate, they need help.

The standard for acceptable protest/boycott actions is up to and including what you would do but not beyond. Got it.

I just hold the above opinion, that the extreme outrage and hate are unwarranted and bad. Is it ok for me to have this opinion, or maybe does my opinion hurt you in some way?
I do not always agree with you, but I respect your opions and points as almost always well thought out. Genuinely curious:
1. What is the defintion of "extreme outrage?" For example, I would easily define "extreme outrage" as the burning, looting, and murdering of 2020 - $4B and at least 14 murders in response to disinformation felt "extreme." Are all boycotts "extreme?" What makes a boycott "extreme?" I feel like wanting to groom and sexualize children is "extreme" and opposing it is a logical and moral response to protest conversastion therapy and pedophilia.

2. What is the defintion of "hate?" Do you have an example of hate directed at a trans person / community related to politics? For example, I would define the trans group that mocks Chritianity, Jesus, and Catholicism as an anti-Christian hate group (the group that was invited to the Dodgers gay celebration). Do you have similar examples of mainstream organizations celebrating groups that similar mock gays?

There is extreme outrage over these sorts of societal issues from both sides. People tweet and twit about them like it is the end of America. I know it is just an act from many of them, but it is often an extreme response in my opinion.

To 2, I do not know of political hate towards too many groups at all, from either political party. I don't think I mentioned politics, I'm talking about this as a societal issue.
Maybe it was ignorance, maybe it was stupidity, maybe it was intentional, but you ignored the simple quetions presented, so I will ask again:

1. What is the defintion of "extreme outrage?" For example, I would easily define "extreme outrage" as the burning, looting, and murdering of 2020 - $4B and at least 14 murders in response to disinformation felt "extreme." Are all boycotts "extreme?" What makes a boycott "extreme?" I feel like wanting to groom and sexualize children is "extreme" and opposing it is a logical and moral response to protest conversastion therapy and pedophilia.

2. What is the defintion of "hate?" Do you have an example of hate directed at a trans person / community related to politics? For example, I would define the trans group that mocks Chritianity, Jesus, and Catholicism as an anti-Christian hate group (the group that was invited to the Dodgers gay celebration). Do you have similar examples of mainstream organizations celebrating groups that similar mock gays?



I thought you wanted a real answer. Do you not have a dictionary in your house?


In fairness, people, including you, tend to have definitions that may not entirely match Mr. Webster's.

An example? I don't recall making up alternative definitions of words. Surely you have something in mind? I hope it's "zealot."
Zealot (zealot) noun - someone who feels stronger about something than Porteroso.
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D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

What is bigotry? Read this thread:12 Hours from Conservatives losing their mind -- Pride Month


In your book, "bigotry" is when you don't want to paint the crosswalks at your factory in rainbow colors to "celebrate" the sexually deviant lifestyle choices of others. It is not enough to say that people have a legal right to act immorally, instead you call anyone who does not sing the praises of the LBGTQ+ movement a bigot. That "plus" on the end inevitably will include "minor attracted persons" and your ilk will be making excuses for it.

"Bigotry" in your book is also thinking that mentally ill kids deserve mental health treatment that reflects their physical reality rather than their psychological delusions. You have gone so far off the deep end that you think we should believe, or at least pretend, that a biological man, by virtue of having his ***** removed and getting a bunch of hormone shots, is actually a woman or that if we whack of a woman's breasts and pump her full of testosterone she is now a man. However, that isn't how reality works.

Throwing out the "bigotry" label when it does not apply, as you do, is a worthless ad hominem attack.
This is a fantastic post. Using inaccurate, divisive labels like "hate," "extreme," and "bigotry" only makes healthy conversations difficult and promotes divisiveness and disrespect. It harkens to the root cause, which is the lack of self-awareness by many regressives - in their mind "divisive" also means "anything I disagree with." Calling a conservative black man an "Uncle Tom" is a sign of unity, and calling someone who opposes butchering children a "bigot" also is a sign of unity. The reason the regressives only have ad hominem attacks is because at the core they know their positions are illogical and indefensible.

The broader theme and tension we are having as a country and culture is at the root of all of these debates and disagreements:
1. Are we going to work toward a unified, national identity where we seek to find and celebrate things that make us united as Americans and prioritize and celebrate those common traits
2. Or are we going to work toward a divided, group identities where we seek to find and celebrate things that make us different and prioritize and celebrate those different traits

That's the core tension between conservatives seeking unity and commonality and regressives seeking division and differences. Most Americans have little serious problems with gay people and their being gay and even gay "marriage." However, when most Americans get exhausted by the gay flags and everything big gay month has nothing to do with the gayness but the underlying divisiveness of constantly celebrating division and differences. They would have a similar reaction if we launched a "Swinger Pride" month and every corporation had to fly flags and virtue signal about how amazing it is to be a Swinger.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

What is bigotry? Read this thread:12 Hours from Conservatives losing their mind -- Pride Month


In your book, "bigotry" is when you don't want to paint the crosswalks at your factory in rainbow colors to "celebrate" the sexually deviant lifestyle choices of others. It is not enough to say that people have a legal right to act immorally, instead you call anyone who does not sing the praises of the LBGTQ+ movement a bigot. That "plus" on the end inevitably will include "minor attracted persons" and your ilk will be making excuses for it.

"Bigotry" in your book is also thinking that mentally ill kids deserve mental health treatment that reflects their physical reality rather than their psychological delusions. You have gone so far off the deep end that you think we should believe, or at least pretend, that a biological man, by virtue of having his ***** removed and getting a bunch of hormone shots, is actually a woman or that if we whack of a woman's breasts and pump her full of testosterone she is now a man. However, that isn't how reality works.

Throwing out the "bigotry" label when it does not apply, as you do, is a worthless ad hominem attack.
This is a fantastic post. Using inaccurate, divisive labels like "hate," "extreme," and "bigotry" only makes healthy conversations difficult and promotes divisiveness and disrespect. It harkens to the root cause, which is the lack of self-awareness by many regressives - in their mind "divisive" also means "anything I disagree with." Calling a conservative black man an "Uncle Tom" is a sign of unity, and calling someone who opposes butchering children a "bigot" also is a sign of unity. The reason the regressives only have ad hominem attacks is because at the core they know their positions are illogical and indefensible.

The broader theme and tension we are having as a country and culture is at the root of all of these debates and disagreements:
1. Are we going to work toward a unified, national identity where we seek to find and celebrate things that make us united as Americans and prioritize and celebrate those common traits
2. Or are we going to work toward a divided, group identities where we seek to find and celebrate things that make us different and prioritize and celebrate those different traits Strawman premise with no discernable facts especially "prioritizing"

That's the core tension between conservatives seeking unity and commonality and regressives seeking division and differences. Again not regressive. Make America Great Again is literally regression which harkens back to a time of fantasy when life was good.

"Diversity, Equity & Inclusion (DEI) encompasses the
interconnectivity relationship, philosophy and culture of acknowledging, embracing, supporting, and accepting those of all racial, sexual, gender, religious and socioeconomic backgrounds, among other differentiators." Lisa Dunn
Surely you something more in the way response beside a ad hominin attack?
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

What is bigotry? Read this thread:12 Hours from Conservatives losing their mind -- Pride Month


So you can't define the bigoted terms you use to slander anyone with a diverse opinion?
I define by the words of "12 Hours from Conservatives losing their mind -- Pride Month" Bigotry is written all over that post
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Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

JXL said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Remind me again how this or bud light really affects your life?
Ah yes, the usual suspects triggered by these types of posts...

Calm down, little guy. It's called capitalism.
no bruh, just a simple question. But as usual, you can't answer the question and resort to name calling like your deal leader.


There are lots of ways pushing social agendas affect people, especially campaigns aimed at children. That's pretty elementary.
Bud light and calvin klein are aimed at kids? Huh.
I don't think I said or suggested that. Target's campaign certainly was aimed at children. Perhaps you were unaware of that.

As a purported "conservative," it's quite odd you have a problem with conservatives speaking out against liberal social agendas.
Never said i had a problem with conservatives speaking out. You must have missed that and created your own argument as you consistently do.

I was just asking how this really affects people's lives. Not meant with any ill intent, just an honest question.


Are people limited to only commenting about matters directly affecting them? Presumably that rule only applies to other people and not to you?
Yes, if it attacks human for their gender identity. T under lying issue is for you, posters, here see it as abnormal.
Ah yes, the oft-used tactic of the left - shut down any discussion by declaring it a hateful attack that is off limits for discussion. This is not a "tactic but truth "

if one attacks another human for their gender identity then, indeed, it is harmful to that human being and not a tactic.
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Jack Bauer said:

Waco1947 said:

Aw the bigotry indeed, what about your heart?
Which **** list did you get that BS from - Buzzfeed or Vox??
I got it from Jesus' love commandment. "You love the Lord God with all your heart" So I am asking about your heart "is it in tune with the love commandment?"
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Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

JXL said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Remind me again how this or bud light really affects your life?
Ah yes, the usual suspects triggered by these types of posts...

Calm down, little guy. It's called capitalism.
no bruh, just a simple question. But as usual, you can't answer the question and resort to name calling like your deal leader.


There are lots of ways pushing social agendas affect people, especially campaigns aimed at children. That's pretty elementary.
Bud light and calvin klein are aimed at kids? Huh.
I don't think I said or suggested that. Target's campaign certainly was aimed at children. Perhaps you were unaware of that.

As a purported "conservative," it's quite odd you have a problem with conservatives speaking out against liberal social agendas.
Never said i had a problem with conservatives speaking out. You must have missed that and created your own argument as you consistently do.

I was just asking how this really affects people's lives. Not meant with any ill intent, just an honest question.


Are people limited to only commenting about matters directly affecting them? Presumably that rule only applies to other people and not to you?
Yes, if it attacks human for their gender identity. T under lying issue is for you, posters, here see it as abnormal.
Ah yes, the oft-used tactic of the left - shut down any discussion by declaring it a hateful attack that is off limits for discussion. This is not a "tactic but truth "

if one attacks another human for their gender identity then, indeed, it is harmful to that human being and not a tactic.

You don't know what truth is. You abandoned truth years ago, if you ever possessed it.

Saying transgenderism is mental illness is not an attack. It's truth. Sorry, 47.
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Waco1947 said:

Jack Bauer said:

Waco1947 said:

Aw the bigotry indeed, what about your heart?
Which **** list did you get that BS from - Buzzfeed or Vox??
I got it from Jesus' love commandment. "You love the Lord God with all your heart" So I am asking about your heart "is it in tune with the love commandment?"
Your error is believing that it is somehow loving to abandon God's commands and precepts.
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Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

Jack Bauer said:

Waco1947 said:

Aw the bigotry indeed, what about your heart?
Which **** list did you get that BS from - Buzzfeed or Vox??
I got it from Jesus' love commandment. "You love the Lord God with all your heart" So I am asking about your heart "is it in tune with the love commandment?"
Your error is believing that it is somehow loving to abandon God's commands and precepts.
I have addressed this idiocy about the Scripture many times.
Show me a passage in which gender identity was ever a problem to Jesus.

P, yes, "Women may not teach men." but Jesus . . .NO.
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Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

What is bigotry? Read this thread:12 Hours from Conservatives losing their mind -- Pride Month


In your book, "bigotry" is when you don't want to paint the crosswalks at your factory in rainbow colors to "celebrate" the sexually deviant lifestyle choices of others. It is not enough to say that people have a legal right to act immorally, instead you call anyone who does not sing the praises of the LBGTQ+ movement a bigot. That "plus" on the end inevitably will include "minor attracted persons" and your ilk will be making excuses for it.

"Bigotry" in your book is also thinking that mentally ill kids deserve mental health treatment that reflects their physical reality rather than their psychological delusions. You have gone so far off the deep end that you think we should believe, or at least pretend, that a biological man, by virtue of having his ***** removed and getting a bunch of hormone shots, is actually a woman or that if we whack of a woman's breasts and pump her full of testosterone she is now a man. However, that isn't how reality works.

Throwing out the "bigotry" label when it does not apply, as you do, is a worthless ad hominem attack.
This is a fantastic post. Using inaccurate, divisive labels like "hate," "extreme," and "bigotry" only makes healthy conversations difficult and promotes divisiveness and disrespect. It harkens to the root cause, which is the lack of self-awareness by many regressives - in their mind "divisive" also means "anything I disagree with." Calling a conservative black man an "Uncle Tom" is a sign of unity, and calling someone who opposes butchering children a "bigot" also is a sign of unity. The reason the regressives only have ad hominem attacks is because at the core they know their positions are illogical and indefensible.

The broader theme and tension we are having as a country and culture is at the root of all of these debates and disagreements:
1. Are we going to work toward a unified, national identity where we seek to find and celebrate things that make us united as Americans and prioritize and celebrate those common traits
2. Or are we going to work toward a divided, group identities where we seek to find and celebrate things that make us different and prioritize and celebrate those different traits Strawman premise with no discernable facts especially "prioritizing"

That's the core tension between conservatives seeking unity and commonality and regressives seeking division and differences. Again not regressive. Make America Great Again is literally regression which harkens back to a time of fantasy when life was good.

"Diversity, Equity & Inclusion (DEI) encompasses the
interconnectivity relationship, philosophy and culture of acknowledging, embracing, supporting, and accepting those of all racial, sexual, gender, religious and socioeconomic backgrounds, among other differentiators." Lisa Dunn
Surely you something more in the way response beside a ad hominin attack?
All you make is ad hominem attacks. Whenever you are asked a specific question, 99% of the time you tuck and run and refuse to answer.

Take your comments above: Gay month is literally about calling out and celebrating differences. You claim "no discernable facts" while the facts are prancing in front of you in drag.

This columnist said it well.
"For my part, I wish Pride would go away.
We've won equality. Why should gays continue to be singled out, even for the purpose of being celebrated?
And for what are we being celebrated, anyway?
I don't expect to be applauded for being left-handed. Being gay is an attribute, not an accomplishment."

And BUT TRUMP is just an immature, lazy argument. So you do not want America to be great. Congratulations. I for one would celebrate a return to the time when:
- America had a strong manufacturing base with a healthly blue collar middle class that built things
- When crime and homelessness were not overrunning American cities
- When we acknowledged our differences and celebrated our common experience rather than obsess over our differences and celebrate our "diversity"
- When a small, Elite billionaire class did not constantly disinform the masses and enrich themselves at the expense of the working classes

But hey, I get it - you love Panem.

And not sure what that last stupid quote is. DEI is just a grift. The reason anyone can see it is a grift is because the places that most aggressively promote the divisivness of DEI are those placs that ostensibliy already are accepting. So if they are already accepting of diversity there is no reason to hire a bunch of DEI Kommisars, but of course they do because the regressive division is the point.
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Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

Jack Bauer said:

Waco1947 said:

Aw the bigotry indeed, what about your heart?
Which **** list did you get that BS from - Buzzfeed or Vox??
I got it from Jesus' love commandment. "You love the Lord God with all your heart" So I am asking about your heart "is it in tune with the love commandment?"
Your error is believing that it is somehow loving to abandon God's commands and precepts.
I have addressed this idiocy about the Scripture many times.
Show me a passage in which gender identity was ever a problem to Jesus.

P, yes, "Women may not teach men." but Jesus . . .NO.
Please explain Matt 19:5. Back in the day, "Red Letter Christians" celebrated a sub-Scripture of just Jesus' words, so please give us the exegesis for this saying of Jesus.
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Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

What is bigotry? Read this thread:12 Hours from Conservatives losing their mind -- Pride Month


In your book, "bigotry" is when you don't want to paint the crosswalks at your factory in rainbow colors to "celebrate" the sexually deviant lifestyle choices of others. It is not enough to say that people have a legal right to act immorally, instead you call anyone who does not sing the praises of the LBGTQ+ movement a bigot. That "plus" on the end inevitably will include "minor attracted persons" and your ilk will be making excuses for it.

"Bigotry" in your book is also thinking that mentally ill kids deserve mental health treatment that reflects their physical reality rather than their psychological delusions. You have gone so far off the deep end that you think we should believe, or at least pretend, that a biological man, by virtue of having his ***** removed and getting a bunch of hormone shots, is actually a woman or that if we whack of a woman's breasts and pump her full of testosterone she is now a man. However, that isn't how reality works.

Throwing out the "bigotry" label when it does not apply, as you do, is a worthless ad hominem attack.
This is a fantastic post. Using inaccurate, divisive labels like "hate," "extreme," and "bigotry" only makes healthy conversations difficult and promotes divisiveness and disrespect. It harkens to the root cause, which is the lack of self-awareness by many regressives - in their mind "divisive" also means "anything I disagree with." Calling a conservative black man an "Uncle Tom" is a sign of unity, and calling someone who opposes butchering children a "bigot" also is a sign of unity. The reason the regressives only have ad hominem attacks is because at the core they know their positions are illogical and indefensible.

The broader theme and tension we are having as a country and culture is at the root of all of these debates and disagreements:
1. Are we going to work toward a unified, national identity where we seek to find and celebrate things that make us united as Americans and prioritize and celebrate those common traits
2. Or are we going to work toward a divided, group identities where we seek to find and celebrate things that make us different and prioritize and celebrate those different traits Strawman premise with no discernable facts especially "prioritizing"

That's the core tension between conservatives seeking unity and commonality and regressives seeking division and differences. Again not regressive. Make America Great Again is literally regression which harkens back to a time of fantasy when life was good.

"Diversity, Equity & Inclusion (DEI) encompasses the
interconnectivity relationship, philosophy and culture of acknowledging, embracing, supporting, and accepting those of all racial, sexual, gender, religious and socioeconomic backgrounds, among other differentiators." Lisa Dunn
Surely you something more in the way response beside a ad hominin attack?


What you advocate is flat out abuse and malpractice on par with lobotomies, and, if you want to see a bigot, look in the mirror as you are bigoted against anyone who doesn't agree with the insanity you promote. Your position is indefensible and all you have is to cry "bigotry" agains those who point out its madness.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

Jack Bauer said:

Waco1947 said:

Aw the bigotry indeed, what about your heart?
Which **** list did you get that BS from - Buzzfeed or Vox??
I got it from Jesus' love commandment. "You love the Lord God with all your heart" So I am asking about your heart "is it in tune with the love commandment?"
Your error is believing that it is somehow loving to abandon God's commands and precepts.
I have addressed this idiocy about the Scripture many times.
Show me a passage in which gender identity was ever a problem to Jesus.

P, yes, "Women may not teach men." but Jesus . . .NO.
Please explain Matt 19:5. Back in the day, "Red Letter Christians" celebrated a sub-Scripture of just Jesus' words, so please give us the exegesis for this saying of Jesus. Nah, this post is about gender identity. Bring your Bible to the table and show me Jesus' comments on the subject.
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D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

What is bigotry? Read this thread:12 Hours from Conservatives losing their mind -- Pride Month


In your book, "bigotry" is when you don't want to paint the crosswalks at your factory in rainbow colors to "celebrate" the sexually deviant lifestyle choices of others. It is not enough to say that people have a legal right to act immorally, instead you call anyone who does not sing the praises of the LBGTQ+ movement a bigot. That "plus" on the end inevitably will include "minor attracted persons" and your ilk will be making excuses for it.

"Bigotry" in your book is also thinking that mentally ill kids deserve mental health treatment that reflects their physical reality rather than their psychological delusions. You have gone so far off the deep end that you think we should believe, or at least pretend, that a biological man, by virtue of having his ***** removed and getting a bunch of hormone shots, is actually a woman or that if we whack of a woman's breasts and pump her full of testosterone she is now a man. However, that isn't how reality works.

Throwing out the "bigotry" label when it does not apply, as you do, is a worthless ad hominem attack.
This is a fantastic post. Using inaccurate, divisive labels like "hate," "extreme," and "bigotry" only makes healthy conversations difficult and promotes divisiveness and disrespect. It harkens to the root cause, which is the lack of self-awareness by many regressives - in their mind "divisive" also means "anything I disagree with." Calling a conservative black man an "Uncle Tom" is a sign of unity, and calling someone who opposes butchering children a "bigot" also is a sign of unity. The reason the regressives only have ad hominem attacks is because at the core they know their positions are illogical and indefensible.

The broader theme and tension we are having as a country and culture is at the root of all of these debates and disagreements:
1. Are we going to work toward a unified, national identity where we seek to find and celebrate things that make us united as Americans and prioritize and celebrate those common traits
2. Or are we going to work toward a divided, group identities where we seek to find and celebrate things that make us different and prioritize and celebrate those different traits Strawman premise with no discernable facts especially "prioritizing"

That's the core tension between conservatives seeking unity and commonality and regressives seeking division and differences. Again not regressive. Make America Great Again is literally regression which harkens back to a time of fantasy when life was good.

"Diversity, Equity & Inclusion (DEI) encompasses the
interconnectivity relationship, philosophy and culture of acknowledging, embracing, supporting, and accepting those of all racial, sexual, gender, religious and socioeconomic backgrounds, among other differentiators." Lisa Dunn
Surely you something more in the way response beside a ad hominin attack?


What you advocate is flat out abuse and malpractice on par with lobotomies, and, if you want to see a bigot, look in the mirror as you are bigoted against anyone who doesn't agree with the insanity you promote. Your position is indefensible and all you have is to cry "bigotry" agains those who point out its madness.
You cannot simply deny the evident bigotry on these pages See the
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Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

Jack Bauer said:

Waco1947 said:

Aw the bigotry indeed, what about your heart?
Which **** list did you get that BS from - Buzzfeed or Vox??
I got it from Jesus' love commandment. "You love the Lord God with all your heart" So I am asking about your heart "is it in tune with the love commandment?"
Your error is believing that it is somehow loving to abandon God's commands and precepts.
I have addressed this idiocy about the Scripture many times.
Show me a passage in which gender identity was ever a problem to Jesus.

P, yes, "Women may not teach men." but Jesus . . .NO.
Please explain Matt 19:5. Back in the day, "Red Letter Christians" celebrated a sub-Scripture of just Jesus' words, so please give us the exegesis for this saying of Jesus. Nah, this post is about gender identity. Bring your Bible to the table and show me Jesus' comments on the subject.

So you are going to ignore? Maybe read Matt 19:5 and would love your thoughts.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

Jack Bauer said:

Waco1947 said:

Aw the bigotry indeed, what about your heart?
Which **** list did you get that BS from - Buzzfeed or Vox??
I got it from Jesus' love commandment. "You love the Lord God with all your heart" So I am asking about your heart "is it in tune with the love commandment?"
Your error is believing that it is somehow loving to abandon God's commands and precepts.
I have addressed this idiocy about the Scripture many times.
Show me a passage in which gender identity was ever a problem to Jesus.

P, yes, "Women may not teach men." but Jesus . . .NO.
Please explain Matt 19:5. Back in the day, "Red Letter Christians" celebrated a sub-Scripture of just Jesus' words, so please give us the exegesis for this saying of Jesus. Nah, this post is about gender identity. Bring your Bible to the table and show me Jesus' comments on the subject.

So you are going to ignore? Maybe read Matt 19:5 and would love your thoughts. Why should I? You ignored my thoughts on the Love Commandment.
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Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

What is bigotry? Read this thread:12 Hours from Conservatives losing their mind -- Pride Month


So you can't define the bigoted terms you use to slander anyone with a diverse opinion?
I define by the words of "12 Hours from Conservatives losing their mind -- Pride Month" Bigotry is written all over this post
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

Jack Bauer said:

Waco1947 said:

Aw the bigotry indeed, what about your heart?
Which **** list did you get that BS from - Buzzfeed or Vox??
I got it from Jesus' love commandment. "You love the Lord God with all your heart" So I am asking about your heart "is it in tune with the love commandment?"
Your error is believing that it is somehow loving to abandon God's commands and precepts.
I have addressed this idiocy about the Scripture many times.
Show me a passage in which gender identity was ever a problem to Jesus.

P, yes, "Women may not teach men." but Jesus . . .NO.
Please explain Matt 19:5. Back in the day, "Red Letter Christians" celebrated a sub-Scripture of just Jesus' words, so please give us the exegesis for this saying of Jesus. Nah, this post is about gender identity. Bring your Bible to the table and show me Jesus' comments on the subject.

So you are going to ignore? Maybe read Matt 19:5 and would love your thoughts.
Full context Mt 19 3 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?"

4 "Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,'[a] 5 and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'[b]? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate."
Clearly Jesus is addressing divorce not sexuality.
The question is asked with reference to heterosexual marriage "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?" therefore Jesus responds in kind about heterosexual marriage.
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Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

Jack Bauer said:

Waco1947 said:

Aw the bigotry indeed, what about your heart?
Which **** list did you get that BS from - Buzzfeed or Vox??
I got it from Jesus' love commandment. "You love the Lord God with all your heart" So I am asking about your heart "is it in tune with the love commandment?"
Your error is believing that it is somehow loving to abandon God's commands and precepts.
I have addressed this idiocy about the Scripture many times.
Show me a passage in which gender identity was ever a problem to Jesus.

P, yes, "Women may not teach men." but Jesus . . .NO.
Please explain Matt 19:5. Back in the day, "Red Letter Christians" celebrated a sub-Scripture of just Jesus' words, so please give us the exegesis for this saying of Jesus. Nah, this post is about gender identity. Bring your Bible to the table and show me Jesus' comments on the subject.

So you are going to ignore? Maybe read Matt 19:5 and would love your thoughts.
Full context Mt 19 3 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?"

4 "Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,'[a] 5 and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'[b]? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate."
Clearly Jesus is addressing divorce not sexuality.
The question is asked with reference to heterosexual marriage "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?" therefore Jesus responds in kind about heterosexual marriage.

Why? Why did he not discuss a husband divorcing his husband?
Mothra
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Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

Jack Bauer said:

Waco1947 said:

Aw the bigotry indeed, what about your heart?
Which **** list did you get that BS from - Buzzfeed or Vox??
I got it from Jesus' love commandment. "You love the Lord God with all your heart" So I am asking about your heart "is it in tune with the love commandment?"
Your error is believing that it is somehow loving to abandon God's commands and precepts.
I have addressed this idiocy about the Scripture many times.
Show me a passage in which gender identity was ever a problem to Jesus.

P, yes, "Women may not teach men." but Jesus . . .NO.
If we are going to only focus on Jesus words, then we are going to say that lots of things are not sinful. Jesus never mentioned rape or pedophilia. Does that mean he's ok with those acts? Of course not. Saying he would be is pure idiocy, not unlike your comments.

The biblical understanding of male and female is more than just an assumption. We know from Genesis 1 and 2 that the categories of male and female are a part of God's design for humanity. Indeed, when God created the first human pair in his image, he created them male and female. Far from being a mere cultural construct, God depicts the existence of a man and a woman as essential to his creational plan.

Now, you might protest, "I agree that God makes as either male or female. But you are confusing biological sex with gender." And I am sure you will say you know transvestites who "feel" they are the opposite sex, and love God. However, the question is not whether such persons and feelings exist. The question is whether the is of our emotional or mental state equals the ought of God's design. Being "true to ourselves" is always a false choice when it means going against God's Word.
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Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Waco1947 said:

Mothra said:

Waco1947 said:

Jack Bauer said:

Waco1947 said:

Aw the bigotry indeed, what about your heart?
Which **** list did you get that BS from - Buzzfeed or Vox??
I got it from Jesus' love commandment. "You love the Lord God with all your heart" So I am asking about your heart "is it in tune with the love commandment?"
Your error is believing that it is somehow loving to abandon God's commands and precepts.
I have addressed this idiocy about the Scripture many times.
Show me a passage in which gender identity was ever a problem to Jesus.

P, yes, "Women may not teach men." but Jesus . . .NO.
Please explain Matt 19:5. Back in the day, "Red Letter Christians" celebrated a sub-Scripture of just Jesus' words, so please give us the exegesis for this saying of Jesus. Nah, this post is about gender identity. Bring your Bible to the table and show me Jesus' comments on the subject.

So you are going to ignore? Maybe read Matt 19:5 and would love your thoughts.
Full context Mt 19 3 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?"

4 "Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,'[a] 5 and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'[b]? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate."
Clearly Jesus is addressing divorce not sexuality.
The question is asked with reference to heterosexual marriage "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?" therefore Jesus responds in kind about heterosexual marriage.

Jesus doesn't differentiate between hetero and homosexual marriage. His comments about marriage imply there is only one kind of marriage, and that is between male and female. The fact that homosexual marriage is never mentioned ought to clue you in.
 
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