Donald Trump Indicted on Seven Counts......

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Harrison Bergeron
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Doc Holliday said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Doc Holliday said:

On the exact same day members of Congress acquire intel from the FBI proving for a fact that then VP Joe Biden received $5 MILLION from Burisma in a pay-for-play scheme…they announce this. They exact same thing they tried to impeach Trump is now exposed, proving him right all along and undeniable.

If the GOP doesn't impeach Biden over a $5 million bribe they have proof of but they let the DOJ Target Trump over this, then we have an officially broken country and you might as well throw the constitution away.
Yep. Trump was right again, just like the PGA-LIV. The Swamp will unite to destroy anything or anybody that attempts to dissent.
Illegitimate regimes do illegitimate regime things.
Unfortunately, most of the morons who bloviate politically are too stupid to understand nuance. Short-bus rona mask wearers with 10 rona shots I'm typing to you: "It is possible to not like Trump and not want to live in an authoritarian dictatorship."
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Doc Holliday said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Doc Holliday said:

On the exact same day members of Congress acquire intel from the FBI proving for a fact that then VP Joe Biden received $5 MILLION from Burisma in a pay-for-play scheme…they announce this. They exact same thing they tried to impeach Trump is now exposed, proving him right all along and undeniable.

If the GOP doesn't impeach Biden over a $5 million bribe they have proof of but they let the DOJ Target Trump over this, then we have an officially broken country and you might as well throw the constitution away.
Yep. Trump was right again, just like the PGA-LIV. The Swamp will unite to destroy anything or anybody that attempts to dissent.
Illegitimate regimes do illegitimate regime things.
"It is possible to not like Trump and not want to live in an authoritarian dictatorship."
I suspect that's the main reason a lot of people don't like him.
Fre3dombear
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Sam Lowry said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Doc Holliday said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Doc Holliday said:

On the exact same day members of Congress acquire intel from the FBI proving for a fact that then VP Joe Biden received $5 MILLION from Burisma in a pay-for-play scheme…they announce this. They exact same thing they tried to impeach Trump is now exposed, proving him right all along and undeniable.

If the GOP doesn't impeach Biden over a $5 million bribe they have proof of but they let the DOJ Target Trump over this, then we have an officially broken country and you might as well throw the constitution away.
Yep. Trump was right again, just like the PGA-LIV. The Swamp will unite to destroy anything or anybody that attempts to dissent.
Illegitimate regimes do illegitimate regime things.
"It is possible to not like Trump and not want to live in an authoritarian dictatorship."
I suspect that's the main reason a lot of people don't like him.


Huh?
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Fre3dombear said:

FLBear5630 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Screw this. To Hell with DeSantis and Tim Scott. Both are good men but only Trump can clean up this corruption that has taken over Washington, D.C. and rescue our Republic. Still do not like Trump as a person, but I am all in. The DOJ has convinced me to change my vote in the 2024 Presidential Election. Enough.


You really think Trump is person to clean up DC? It got worse with him in the mix, Nation has never been as divided. He needs to go back to TV or this won't end.


Seems you're a socialist Obama Biden type voter

What specifics did you dislike about Trump's policies that makes you dislike him so much?


Love it, if I don't agree with you on Trump, I am a Socialist!

Trumps policies were not special, nor where they all his. I don't get why the "die on the hill" mentality for this clown. Read a little about Trump and his life in NY before he went to TV. The guy was the biggest Obama Dem there was. He is no conservative, unless he can make a buck at it.

That said, he was a better choice than Hilary or Biden in 2016 &2020. But, time for him to go away, he is not the same guy from 2016 and definitely different than his whole life as a Dem at the 1970s Studio 54 Trump. If he runs and wins, it will be 4 more years of the same BS. We can't survive that with China. He is not the answer.

By the way, I think HRC and Biden should be prosecuted too. All three broke the law and need to be held accountable. I would go Haley, Pompeo, Scott, DeSantis and even Christie over Trump. Trump is poison.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.

The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.
FLBear5630
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TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.

The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.
Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.
whitetrash
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fubar said:

Somebody is rotten to the core.


Here he is!

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Mothra
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Porteroso said:

Turns out if you get caught on tape knowingly holding onto classified documents the government doesn't like it. One of the weakest overreaches i can recall if its even that. Only Trump and his lovers would ever think someone should be able to get away with it.

To think the conservatives are now the ones wanting to upend the rule of law, because politicians should be immune from criminal charges? The country hasn't just lost its mind, people are downright dumb. We have a green party and tea party, but what we need is an education party.


I generally have no problem with the prosecution of trump. What I have a problem with - and what you should as well - is with the unequal application of it.

It's pretty difficult to justify prosecuting trump while letting HRC walk for her admitted criminal conduct. At least be consistent in your political prosecutions.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Mothra said:

fubar said:

Somebody is rotten to the core.

Though there is no amount of evidence that will convince you as to who that somebody is.


Indeed. But thats completely irrelevant to the separate question of whether this is tantamount to a political prosecution. That should concern all Americans, regardless of what type of individual the person is.

In line with his ******y behavior, Trump didn't turn over the docs immediately like Biden and Pence. But does that really make his behavior criminal while Biden's is not? Seems like they're reaching here.

Is this really that much worse than HRC's secret email server, and the destruction of documents included on that server? I don't think so. Yet HRC skated and Trump was indicted.

I suspect all this does is strengthen Trump and backfire on the Biden admin. I can't stand Trump, but political prosecutions are for banana republics not America.
No.

It is a purely Staasi-esque political prosecution. China Joe literally has weaponized the entire federal government to suppress everyone from school board parents who don't want grown men showering with their little girls to political opponents from President Trump to Jim Justice.

Ignore the stupid TDSers ... the precedent was set with Clinton: the standard is "intent to give to a foreign government." Besides, what China Joe did with classified documents was thousands of times worse. Everyone shoudl be concerned we woudl be living in a totalitarian state if the Biden crew were competent, but we are more in a banana republic with money and nukes.


You might have missed the part where I said how can HRC walk and Trump gets prosecuted.
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FLBear5630 said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.

The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.
Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.
Biden will win again, because Rs are going to hand the nomination to Trump again. The R field is too large, and none of their egos will let them step aside before the Trump train has left the station.
Mothra
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TexasScientist said:

FLBear5630 said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.

The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.
Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.
Biden will win again, because Rs are going to hand the nomination to Trump again. The R field is too large, and none of their egos will let them step aside before the Trump train has left the station.


Don't disagree with this. DeSantis is the best option to defeat trump but given the fact there are so many contenders it dilutes his vote to have so many nominees. Trump's sycophants, which comprise a good percentage of republicans, are going to vote for him regardless. So I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion trump will be the nominee.

I wish all of the small players would get out of the race and endorse DeSantis.
Osodecentx
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Mothra said:

TexasScientist said:

FLBear5630 said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.

The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.
Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.
Biden will win again, because Rs are going to hand the nomination to Trump again. The R field is too large, and none of their egos will let them step aside before the Trump train has left the station.


Don't disagree with this. DeSantis is the best option to defeat trump but given the fact there are so many contenders it dilutes his vote to have so many nominees. Trump's sycophants, which comprise a good percentage of republicans, are going to vote for him regardless. So I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion trump will be the nominee.

I wish all of the small players would get out of the race and endorse DeSantis.


There are some great candidates running. Let's sift them a while longer
TexasScientist
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whitetrash said:

fubar said:



FIFY
FLBear5630
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Mothra said:

TexasScientist said:

FLBear5630 said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.

The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.
Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.
Biden will win again, because Rs are going to hand the nomination to Trump again. The R field is too large, and none of their egos will let them step aside before the Trump train has left the station.


Don't disagree with this. DeSantis is the best option to defeat trump but given the fact there are so many contenders it dilutes his vote to have so many nominees. Trump's sycophants, which comprise a good percentage of republicans, are going to vote for him regardless. So I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion trump will be the nominee.

I wish all of the small players would get out of the race and endorse DeSantis.
I have been disappointed in RDS, he is not performing well. I think he would do a great job, but I am not confident he will get the shot. Christie may help him...
Mothra
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Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

TexasScientist said:

FLBear5630 said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.

The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.
Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.
Biden will win again, because Rs are going to hand the nomination to Trump again. The R field is too large, and none of their egos will let them step aside before the Trump train has left the station.


Don't disagree with this. DeSantis is the best option to defeat trump but given the fact there are so many contenders it dilutes his vote to have so many nominees. Trump's sycophants, which comprise a good percentage of republicans, are going to vote for him regardless. So I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion trump will be the nominee.

I wish all of the small players would get out of the race and endorse DeSantis.


There are some great candidates running. Let's sift them a while longer
And yet, none of them have a snowball's chance in Hell of defeating Trump.

I think the one benefit of having so many candidates is the ability to focus their attacks on Trump - if they're willing to attack him of course. However, if it goes into primary season, Trump is going to start racking up victory after victory, and will inevitably be the nominee. And I suspect none of them bow out until we've had several primaries. Their egos won't let them.
Mothra
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FLBear5630 said:

Mothra said:

TexasScientist said:

FLBear5630 said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.

The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.
Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.
Biden will win again, because Rs are going to hand the nomination to Trump again. The R field is too large, and none of their egos will let them step aside before the Trump train has left the station.


Don't disagree with this. DeSantis is the best option to defeat trump but given the fact there are so many contenders it dilutes his vote to have so many nominees. Trump's sycophants, which comprise a good percentage of republicans, are going to vote for him regardless. So I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion trump will be the nominee.

I wish all of the small players would get out of the race and endorse DeSantis.
I have been disappointed in RDS, he is not performing well. I think he would do a great job, but I am not confident he will get the shot. Christie may help him...
He's the best hope of defeating Trump in the primaries. None of the other players have the support.
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TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.

The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.
Strange how Biden isn't facing similar similiar charges .

Really believe if Obama had held the exact same documents at his house, this current Democratic administration would have filed similar charges ?
Mothra
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TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.

The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.
While it might be true Trump brought this on himself, even a Trump hater such as yourself should have a problem with the unequal application of the law, and the precedent this kind of political prosecution sets.

I think in some of you Never Trumper's zeal to destroy the guy, you miss the forest through the trees, and fail to consider the larger implications. You can't see past your hatred.
LateSteak69
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Mothra said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.

The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.
While it might be true Trump brought this on himself, even a Trump hater such as yourself should have a problem with the unequal application of the law, and the precedent this kind of political prosecution sets.

I think in some of you Never Trumper's zeal to destroy the guy, you miss the forest through the trees, and fail to consider the larger implications. You can't see past your hatred.
same with the T**mp cultists.

look, the idiot has been in legal trouble his entire life. he has good lawyers, but otherwise he is just a complete dolt.
Mothra
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LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.

The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.
While it might be true Trump brought this on himself, even a Trump hater such as yourself should have a problem with the unequal application of the law, and the precedent this kind of political prosecution sets.

I think in some of you Never Trumper's zeal to destroy the guy, you miss the forest through the trees, and fail to consider the larger implications. You can't see past your hatred.
same with the T**mp cultists.
I don't disagree. They are two birds of a feather. Most of us are stuck in the middle between the two wingnuts.
Oldbear83
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Too bad Trump didn't keep those documents in a secure facility, like the floor of his garage or in the back seat of a corvette.
LateSteak69
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Mothra said:

LateSteak69 said:

Mothra said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.

The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.
While it might be true Trump brought this on himself, even a Trump hater such as yourself should have a problem with the unequal application of the law, and the precedent this kind of political prosecution sets.

I think in some of you Never Trumper's zeal to destroy the guy, you miss the forest through the trees, and fail to consider the larger implications. You can't see past your hatred.
same with the T**mp cultists.
I don't disagree. They are two birds of a feather. Most of us are stuck in the middle between the two wingnuts.
that's where i sit right now, and hope i have someone else to vote for on the R side.
Osodecentx
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Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

TexasScientist said:

FLBear5630 said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.

The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.
Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.
Biden will win again, because Rs are going to hand the nomination to Trump again. The R field is too large, and none of their egos will let them step aside before the Trump train has left the station.


Don't disagree with this. DeSantis is the best option to defeat trump but given the fact there are so many contenders it dilutes his vote to have so many nominees. Trump's sycophants, which comprise a good percentage of republicans, are going to vote for him regardless. So I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion trump will be the nominee.

I wish all of the small players would get out of the race and endorse DeSantis.


There are some great candidates running. Let's sift them a while longer
And yet, none of them have a snowball's chance in Hell of defeating Trump.

I think the one benefit of having so many candidates is the ability to focus their attacks on Trump - if they're willing to attack him of course. However, if it goes into primary season, Trump is going to start racking up victory after victory, and will inevitably be the nominee. And I suspect none of them bow out until we've had several primaries. Their egos won't let them.
It's too early to sign onto one candidate.
Oldbear83
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Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

TexasScientist said:

FLBear5630 said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.

The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.
Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.
Biden will win again, because Rs are going to hand the nomination to Trump again. The R field is too large, and none of their egos will let them step aside before the Trump train has left the station.


Don't disagree with this. DeSantis is the best option to defeat trump but given the fact there are so many contenders it dilutes his vote to have so many nominees. Trump's sycophants, which comprise a good percentage of republicans, are going to vote for him regardless. So I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion trump will be the nominee.

I wish all of the small players would get out of the race and endorse DeSantis.


There are some great candidates running. Let's sift them a while longer
And yet, none of them have a snowball's chance in Hell of defeating Trump.

I think the one benefit of having so many candidates is the ability to focus their attacks on Trump - if they're willing to attack him of course. However, if it goes into primary season, Trump is going to start racking up victory after victory, and will inevitably be the nominee. And I suspect none of them bow out until we've had several primaries. Their egos won't let them.
It's too early to sign onto one candidate.
It's not too early to build grassroots support.
Osodecentx
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Mothra said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.

The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.
While it might be true Trump brought this on himself, even a Trump hater such as yourself should have a problem with the unequal application of the law, and the precedent this kind of political prosecution sets.

I think in some of you Never Trumper's zeal to destroy the guy, you miss the forest through the trees, and fail to consider the larger implications. You can't see past your hatred.
He brought it on himself? Surprise, surprise, surprise

Trump on tape: 'Now I can't' declassify secret Iran papers
A person familiar with the transcript of a 2021 conversation describes incriminating statements
The evidence leading to the historic indictment of former president Donald Trump includes an audio recording from 2021 in which he talks about an apparently secret document and says, "As president, I could have declassified it, but now I can't," a person familiar with a transcript of the remarks said Friday.

In recent days, it has become clear that Trump's own words are some of the most powerful evidence against him, leading to the filing of a seven-count indictment accusing him of willful retention of national defense secrets, conspiracy, obstruction of justice and false statements, according to people familiar with the case. The charges against the former president have yet to be unsealed, but one of his lawyers confirmed them last night to CNN, which first reported the comments caught on tape.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/06/09/trump-tape-classified-documents/
Doc Holliday
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There's a dual legal system in this country with differential enforcement.

The left knows this and they absolutely love it. Don't think for a second these people don't know what's going on
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whitetrash said:

fubar said:

Somebody is rotten to the core.


Here he is!

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Thank God this bush league weasel didn't end up on the Supreme Court. Merrick Garland has proven repeatedly he has no business sniffing a seat on the Supreme Court.

He had better follow The Big Guy's lead and make bank this next year and a half. His career ends in 2024.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
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A functioning government does not prosecute the leader of the opposition party over process crimes.

There is simply no other way to spin this.

And for this to happen during our Nation's Pride Month is truly a disgrace.
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Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

TexasScientist said:

FLBear5630 said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.

The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.
Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.
Biden will win again, because Rs are going to hand the nomination to Trump again. The R field is too large, and none of their egos will let them step aside before the Trump train has left the station.


Don't disagree with this. DeSantis is the best option to defeat trump but given the fact there are so many contenders it dilutes his vote to have so many nominees. Trump's sycophants, which comprise a good percentage of republicans, are going to vote for him regardless. So I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion trump will be the nominee.

I wish all of the small players would get out of the race and endorse DeSantis.


There are some great candidates running. Let's sift them a while longer
And yet, none of them have a snowball's chance in Hell of defeating Trump.

I think the one benefit of having so many candidates is the ability to focus their attacks on Trump - if they're willing to attack him of course. However, if it goes into primary season, Trump is going to start racking up victory after victory, and will inevitably be the nominee. And I suspect none of them bow out until we've had several primaries. Their egos won't let them.
It's too early to sign onto one candidate.
Not when there is an incumbent running, and in this case, that's essentially what Trump is. This isn't your normal Republican primary. We better coalesce quickly behind one candidate if we don't want Trump to win.

At this point, I think it's a foregone conclusion, but one can always hope.
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Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

Osodecentx said:

Mothra said:

TexasScientist said:

FLBear5630 said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.

The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.
Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.
Biden will win again, because Rs are going to hand the nomination to Trump again. The R field is too large, and none of their egos will let them step aside before the Trump train has left the station.


Don't disagree with this. DeSantis is the best option to defeat trump but given the fact there are so many contenders it dilutes his vote to have so many nominees. Trump's sycophants, which comprise a good percentage of republicans, are going to vote for him regardless. So I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion trump will be the nominee.

I wish all of the small players would get out of the race and endorse DeSantis.


There are some great candidates running. Let's sift them a while longer
And yet, none of them have a snowball's chance in Hell of defeating Trump.

I think the one benefit of having so many candidates is the ability to focus their attacks on Trump - if they're willing to attack him of course. However, if it goes into primary season, Trump is going to start racking up victory after victory, and will inevitably be the nominee. And I suspect none of them bow out until we've had several primaries. Their egos won't let them.
It's too early to sign onto one candidate.
This makes it all the more important to defeat Trump in the primary. I've been skeptical of claims that a Trump victory would be the "end of the GOP," but if we nominate a felon it just might be.

DeSantis has the best chance to beat Trump. The other candidates are just obstacles IMO.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

fubar said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

fubar said:

Somebody is rotten to the core.

Though there is no amount of evidence that will convince you as to who that somebody is.
No indictments for Joe Biden who had mega classified documents at his home in Delaware and Chinatown, Washington, D.C. ? Why not? You are okay with a two-tiered justice system? One set of rules for your Democrats and another set of rules for Republicans? You people never cease to amaze me.

This may be the tipping point. Most sane Americans find this unacceptable.
If you refuse to acknowledge the difference between Trump and Biden (and Pence, for that matter) on this one, I've got nothing to say.

Except this: Trump had you pegged years ago.
Trump has my vote now in 2024. I may even send him some money for the first time ever. Unfortunately, he will need 110,000,000 votes to beat Biden in 2024. I wonder if a good number of the Biden ballots will be manufactured in China?

I do know that your jack booted Feds did not raid Joe Biden's home and go through Jill's underwear drawer.

A fool and his money are soon parted.
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Quick inconvenient question: What was the specific document Trump was referring to, and was it part of the document trove seized by the FBI?

And no, an audio recording won't answer that since Trump was not specific, and also, we know a lot of documents were returned to the Archives at their request long before the FBI decided they needed to rais Melania's underwear drawer.

Bottom line, if that is the best evidence you have, this case is weaker than wet kleenex.
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DancinBear09 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

fubar said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

fubar said:

Somebody is rotten to the core.

Though there is no amount of evidence that will convince you as to who that somebody is.
No indictments for Joe Biden who had mega classified documents at his home in Delaware and Chinatown, Washington, D.C. ? Why not? You are okay with a two-tiered justice system? One set of rules for your Democrats and another set of rules for Republicans? You people never cease to amaze me.

This may be the tipping point. Most sane Americans find this unacceptable.
If you refuse to acknowledge the difference between Trump and Biden (and Pence, for that matter) on this one, I've got nothing to say.

Except this: Trump had you pegged years ago.
Trump has my vote now in 2024. I may even send him some money for the first time ever. Unfortunately, he will need 110,000,000 votes to beat Biden in 2024. I wonder if a good number of the Biden ballots will be manufactured in China?

I do know that your jack booted Feds did not raid Joe Biden's home and go through Jill's underwear drawer.

A fool and his money are soon parted.
Why did you bring up Hunter?
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KaiBear said:

TexasScientist said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.

The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.
Strange how Biden isn't facing similar similiar charges .

Really believe if Obama had held the exact same documents at his house, this current Democratic administration would have filed similar charges ?


Of course he's not! It's his DOJ, you have to really step in it to investigated by your own DOJ!

When Trump had the juice he oet HRC walk and didn't do anything in Hunter. All he did was a heavy handed attempt that ended up in an impeachment trial! . He is getting a lesson in politics. Biden won't think twice of bringing the hammer down. GOP needs better
 
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