Unfortunately, most of the morons who bloviate politically are too stupid to understand nuance. Short-bus rona mask wearers with 10 rona shots I'm typing to you: "It is possible to not like Trump and not want to live in an authoritarian dictatorship."Doc Holliday said:Illegitimate regimes do illegitimate regime things.Harrison Bergeron said:Yep. Trump was right again, just like the PGA-LIV. The Swamp will unite to destroy anything or anybody that attempts to dissent.Doc Holliday said:
On the exact same day members of Congress acquire intel from the FBI proving for a fact that then VP Joe Biden received $5 MILLION from Burisma in a pay-for-play scheme…they announce this. They exact same thing they tried to impeach Trump is now exposed, proving him right all along and undeniable.
If the GOP doesn't impeach Biden over a $5 million bribe they have proof of but they let the DOJ Target Trump over this, then we have an officially broken country and you might as well throw the constitution away.
I suspect that's the main reason a lot of people don't like him.Harrison Bergeron said:"It is possible to not like Trump and not want to live in an authoritarian dictatorship."Doc Holliday said:Illegitimate regimes do illegitimate regime things.Harrison Bergeron said:Yep. Trump was right again, just like the PGA-LIV. The Swamp will unite to destroy anything or anybody that attempts to dissent.Doc Holliday said:
On the exact same day members of Congress acquire intel from the FBI proving for a fact that then VP Joe Biden received $5 MILLION from Burisma in a pay-for-play scheme…they announce this. They exact same thing they tried to impeach Trump is now exposed, proving him right all along and undeniable.
If the GOP doesn't impeach Biden over a $5 million bribe they have proof of but they let the DOJ Target Trump over this, then we have an officially broken country and you might as well throw the constitution away.
Sam Lowry said:I suspect that's the main reason a lot of people don't like him.Harrison Bergeron said:"It is possible to not like Trump and not want to live in an authoritarian dictatorship."Doc Holliday said:Illegitimate regimes do illegitimate regime things.Harrison Bergeron said:Yep. Trump was right again, just like the PGA-LIV. The Swamp will unite to destroy anything or anybody that attempts to dissent.Doc Holliday said:
On the exact same day members of Congress acquire intel from the FBI proving for a fact that then VP Joe Biden received $5 MILLION from Burisma in a pay-for-play scheme…they announce this. They exact same thing they tried to impeach Trump is now exposed, proving him right all along and undeniable.
If the GOP doesn't impeach Biden over a $5 million bribe they have proof of but they let the DOJ Target Trump over this, then we have an officially broken country and you might as well throw the constitution away.
Fre3dombear said:FLBear5630 said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Screw this. To Hell with DeSantis and Tim Scott. Both are good men but only Trump can clean up this corruption that has taken over Washington, D.C. and rescue our Republic. Still do not like Trump as a person, but I am all in. The DOJ has convinced me to change my vote in the 2024 Presidential Election. Enough.
You really think Trump is person to clean up DC? It got worse with him in the mix, Nation has never been as divided. He needs to go back to TV or this won't end.
Seems you're a socialist Obama Biden type voter
What specifics did you dislike about Trump's policies that makes you dislike him so much?
Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.
The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.TexasScientist said:Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.
The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
fubar said:
Somebody is rotten to the core.
?format=png&width=960 Porteroso said:
Turns out if you get caught on tape knowingly holding onto classified documents the government doesn't like it. One of the weakest overreaches i can recall if its even that. Only Trump and his lovers would ever think someone should be able to get away with it.
To think the conservatives are now the ones wanting to upend the rule of law, because politicians should be immune from criminal charges? The country hasn't just lost its mind, people are downright dumb. We have a green party and tea party, but what we need is an education party.
Harrison Bergeron said:No.Mothra said:fubar said:
Somebody is rotten to the core.
Though there is no amount of evidence that will convince you as to who that somebody is.
Indeed. But thats completely irrelevant to the separate question of whether this is tantamount to a political prosecution. That should concern all Americans, regardless of what type of individual the person is.
In line with his ******y behavior, Trump didn't turn over the docs immediately like Biden and Pence. But does that really make his behavior criminal while Biden's is not? Seems like they're reaching here.
Is this really that much worse than HRC's secret email server, and the destruction of documents included on that server? I don't think so. Yet HRC skated and Trump was indicted.
I suspect all this does is strengthen Trump and backfire on the Biden admin. I can't stand Trump, but political prosecutions are for banana republics not America.
It is a purely Staasi-esque political prosecution. China Joe literally has weaponized the entire federal government to suppress everyone from school board parents who don't want grown men showering with their little girls to political opponents from President Trump to Jim Justice.
Ignore the stupid TDSers ... the precedent was set with Clinton: the standard is "intent to give to a foreign government." Besides, what China Joe did with classified documents was thousands of times worse. Everyone shoudl be concerned we woudl be living in a totalitarian state if the Biden crew were competent, but we are more in a banana republic with money and nukes.
Biden will win again, because Rs are going to hand the nomination to Trump again. The R field is too large, and none of their egos will let them step aside before the Trump train has left the station.FLBear5630 said:Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.TexasScientist said:Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.
The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
TexasScientist said:Biden will win again, because Rs are going to hand the nomination to Trump again. The R field is too large, and none of their egos will let them step aside before the Trump train has left the station.FLBear5630 said:Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.TexasScientist said:Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.
The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Mothra said:TexasScientist said:Biden will win again, because Rs are going to hand the nomination to Trump again. The R field is too large, and none of their egos will let them step aside before the Trump train has left the station.FLBear5630 said:Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.TexasScientist said:Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.
The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Don't disagree with this. DeSantis is the best option to defeat trump but given the fact there are so many contenders it dilutes his vote to have so many nominees. Trump's sycophants, which comprise a good percentage of republicans, are going to vote for him regardless. So I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion trump will be the nominee.
I wish all of the small players would get out of the race and endorse DeSantis.
FIFYwhitetrash said:fubar said:
I have been disappointed in RDS, he is not performing well. I think he would do a great job, but I am not confident he will get the shot. Christie may help him...Mothra said:TexasScientist said:Biden will win again, because Rs are going to hand the nomination to Trump again. The R field is too large, and none of their egos will let them step aside before the Trump train has left the station.FLBear5630 said:Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.TexasScientist said:Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.
The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Don't disagree with this. DeSantis is the best option to defeat trump but given the fact there are so many contenders it dilutes his vote to have so many nominees. Trump's sycophants, which comprise a good percentage of republicans, are going to vote for him regardless. So I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion trump will be the nominee.
I wish all of the small players would get out of the race and endorse DeSantis.
And yet, none of them have a snowball's chance in Hell of defeating Trump.Osodecentx said:Mothra said:TexasScientist said:Biden will win again, because Rs are going to hand the nomination to Trump again. The R field is too large, and none of their egos will let them step aside before the Trump train has left the station.FLBear5630 said:Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.TexasScientist said:Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.
The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Don't disagree with this. DeSantis is the best option to defeat trump but given the fact there are so many contenders it dilutes his vote to have so many nominees. Trump's sycophants, which comprise a good percentage of republicans, are going to vote for him regardless. So I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion trump will be the nominee.
I wish all of the small players would get out of the race and endorse DeSantis.
There are some great candidates running. Let's sift them a while longer
He's the best hope of defeating Trump in the primaries. None of the other players have the support.FLBear5630 said:I have been disappointed in RDS, he is not performing well. I think he would do a great job, but I am not confident he will get the shot. Christie may help him...Mothra said:TexasScientist said:Biden will win again, because Rs are going to hand the nomination to Trump again. The R field is too large, and none of their egos will let them step aside before the Trump train has left the station.FLBear5630 said:Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.TexasScientist said:Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.
The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Don't disagree with this. DeSantis is the best option to defeat trump but given the fact there are so many contenders it dilutes his vote to have so many nominees. Trump's sycophants, which comprise a good percentage of republicans, are going to vote for him regardless. So I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion trump will be the nominee.
I wish all of the small players would get out of the race and endorse DeSantis.
Strange how Biden isn't facing similar similiar charges .TexasScientist said:Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.
The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
While it might be true Trump brought this on himself, even a Trump hater such as yourself should have a problem with the unequal application of the law, and the precedent this kind of political prosecution sets.TexasScientist said:Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.
The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
same with the T**mp cultists.Mothra said:While it might be true Trump brought this on himself, even a Trump hater such as yourself should have a problem with the unequal application of the law, and the precedent this kind of political prosecution sets.TexasScientist said:Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.
The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
I think in some of you Never Trumper's zeal to destroy the guy, you miss the forest through the trees, and fail to consider the larger implications. You can't see past your hatred.
I don't disagree. They are two birds of a feather. Most of us are stuck in the middle between the two wingnuts.LateSteak69 said:same with the T**mp cultists.Mothra said:While it might be true Trump brought this on himself, even a Trump hater such as yourself should have a problem with the unequal application of the law, and the precedent this kind of political prosecution sets.TexasScientist said:Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.
The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
I think in some of you Never Trumper's zeal to destroy the guy, you miss the forest through the trees, and fail to consider the larger implications. You can't see past your hatred.
that's where i sit right now, and hope i have someone else to vote for on the R side.Mothra said:I don't disagree. They are two birds of a feather. Most of us are stuck in the middle between the two wingnuts.LateSteak69 said:same with the T**mp cultists.Mothra said:While it might be true Trump brought this on himself, even a Trump hater such as yourself should have a problem with the unequal application of the law, and the precedent this kind of political prosecution sets.TexasScientist said:Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.
The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
I think in some of you Never Trumper's zeal to destroy the guy, you miss the forest through the trees, and fail to consider the larger implications. You can't see past your hatred.
It's too early to sign onto one candidate.Mothra said:And yet, none of them have a snowball's chance in Hell of defeating Trump.Osodecentx said:Mothra said:TexasScientist said:Biden will win again, because Rs are going to hand the nomination to Trump again. The R field is too large, and none of their egos will let them step aside before the Trump train has left the station.FLBear5630 said:Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.TexasScientist said:Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.
The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Don't disagree with this. DeSantis is the best option to defeat trump but given the fact there are so many contenders it dilutes his vote to have so many nominees. Trump's sycophants, which comprise a good percentage of republicans, are going to vote for him regardless. So I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion trump will be the nominee.
I wish all of the small players would get out of the race and endorse DeSantis.
There are some great candidates running. Let's sift them a while longer
I think the one benefit of having so many candidates is the ability to focus their attacks on Trump - if they're willing to attack him of course. However, if it goes into primary season, Trump is going to start racking up victory after victory, and will inevitably be the nominee. And I suspect none of them bow out until we've had several primaries. Their egos won't let them.
It's not too early to build grassroots support.Osodecentx said:It's too early to sign onto one candidate.Mothra said:And yet, none of them have a snowball's chance in Hell of defeating Trump.Osodecentx said:Mothra said:TexasScientist said:Biden will win again, because Rs are going to hand the nomination to Trump again. The R field is too large, and none of their egos will let them step aside before the Trump train has left the station.FLBear5630 said:Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.TexasScientist said:Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.
The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Don't disagree with this. DeSantis is the best option to defeat trump but given the fact there are so many contenders it dilutes his vote to have so many nominees. Trump's sycophants, which comprise a good percentage of republicans, are going to vote for him regardless. So I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion trump will be the nominee.
I wish all of the small players would get out of the race and endorse DeSantis.
There are some great candidates running. Let's sift them a while longer
I think the one benefit of having so many candidates is the ability to focus their attacks on Trump - if they're willing to attack him of course. However, if it goes into primary season, Trump is going to start racking up victory after victory, and will inevitably be the nominee. And I suspect none of them bow out until we've had several primaries. Their egos won't let them.
He brought it on himself? Surprise, surprise, surpriseMothra said:While it might be true Trump brought this on himself, even a Trump hater such as yourself should have a problem with the unequal application of the law, and the precedent this kind of political prosecution sets.TexasScientist said:Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.
The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
I think in some of you Never Trumper's zeal to destroy the guy, you miss the forest through the trees, and fail to consider the larger implications. You can't see past your hatred.
Thank God this bush league weasel didn't end up on the Supreme Court. Merrick Garland has proven repeatedly he has no business sniffing a seat on the Supreme Court.whitetrash said:fubar said:
Somebody is rotten to the core.
Here he is!?format=png&width=960
Not when there is an incumbent running, and in this case, that's essentially what Trump is. This isn't your normal Republican primary. We better coalesce quickly behind one candidate if we don't want Trump to win.Osodecentx said:It's too early to sign onto one candidate.Mothra said:And yet, none of them have a snowball's chance in Hell of defeating Trump.Osodecentx said:Mothra said:TexasScientist said:Biden will win again, because Rs are going to hand the nomination to Trump again. The R field is too large, and none of their egos will let them step aside before the Trump train has left the station.FLBear5630 said:Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.TexasScientist said:Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.
The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Don't disagree with this. DeSantis is the best option to defeat trump but given the fact there are so many contenders it dilutes his vote to have so many nominees. Trump's sycophants, which comprise a good percentage of republicans, are going to vote for him regardless. So I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion trump will be the nominee.
I wish all of the small players would get out of the race and endorse DeSantis.
There are some great candidates running. Let's sift them a while longer
I think the one benefit of having so many candidates is the ability to focus their attacks on Trump - if they're willing to attack him of course. However, if it goes into primary season, Trump is going to start racking up victory after victory, and will inevitably be the nominee. And I suspect none of them bow out until we've had several primaries. Their egos won't let them.
This makes it all the more important to defeat Trump in the primary. I've been skeptical of claims that a Trump victory would be the "end of the GOP," but if we nominate a felon it just might be.Osodecentx said:It's too early to sign onto one candidate.Mothra said:And yet, none of them have a snowball's chance in Hell of defeating Trump.Osodecentx said:Mothra said:TexasScientist said:Biden will win again, because Rs are going to hand the nomination to Trump again. The R field is too large, and none of their egos will let them step aside before the Trump train has left the station.FLBear5630 said:Trump is going to shift the election to him from the Biden policies, which are for the most part horrible. If this election becomes about Trump, Biden will win again.TexasScientist said:Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.
The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Don't disagree with this. DeSantis is the best option to defeat trump but given the fact there are so many contenders it dilutes his vote to have so many nominees. Trump's sycophants, which comprise a good percentage of republicans, are going to vote for him regardless. So I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion trump will be the nominee.
I wish all of the small players would get out of the race and endorse DeSantis.
There are some great candidates running. Let's sift them a while longer
I think the one benefit of having so many candidates is the ability to focus their attacks on Trump - if they're willing to attack him of course. However, if it goes into primary season, Trump is going to start racking up victory after victory, and will inevitably be the nominee. And I suspect none of them bow out until we've had several primaries. Their egos won't let them.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Trump has my vote now in 2024. I may even send him some money for the first time ever. Unfortunately, he will need 110,000,000 votes to beat Biden in 2024. I wonder if a good number of the Biden ballots will be manufactured in China?fubar said:If you refuse to acknowledge the difference between Trump and Biden (and Pence, for that matter) on this one, I've got nothing to say.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:No indictments for Joe Biden who had mega classified documents at his home in Delaware and Chinatown, Washington, D.C. ? Why not? You are okay with a two-tiered justice system? One set of rules for your Democrats and another set of rules for Republicans? You people never cease to amaze me.fubar said:
Somebody is rotten to the core.
Though there is no amount of evidence that will convince you as to who that somebody is.
This may be the tipping point. Most sane Americans find this unacceptable.
Except this: Trump had you pegged years ago.
I do know that your jack booted Feds did not raid Joe Biden's home and go through Jill's underwear drawer.
Why did you bring up Hunter?DancinBear09 said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Trump has my vote now in 2024. I may even send him some money for the first time ever. Unfortunately, he will need 110,000,000 votes to beat Biden in 2024. I wonder if a good number of the Biden ballots will be manufactured in China?fubar said:If you refuse to acknowledge the difference between Trump and Biden (and Pence, for that matter) on this one, I've got nothing to say.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:No indictments for Joe Biden who had mega classified documents at his home in Delaware and Chinatown, Washington, D.C. ? Why not? You are okay with a two-tiered justice system? One set of rules for your Democrats and another set of rules for Republicans? You people never cease to amaze me.fubar said:
Somebody is rotten to the core.
Though there is no amount of evidence that will convince you as to who that somebody is.
This may be the tipping point. Most sane Americans find this unacceptable.
Except this: Trump had you pegged years ago.
I do know that your jack booted Feds did not raid Joe Biden's home and go through Jill's underwear drawer.
A fool and his money are soon parted.
KaiBear said:Strange how Biden isn't facing similar similiar charges .TexasScientist said:Trump brought this on himself. No one else to blame.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
regarding the classified documents found at Mar-A-Lago. No specifics available yet.
The Biden Administration, Department of Justice, the FBI, and CIA are rotten to the core. If they are not careful, they may get to see what a real insurrection looks like. The Deep State is alive and well. I do not like Donald Trump, but this is a sad day for our country.
Really believe if Obama had held the exact same documents at his house, this current Democratic administration would have filed similar charges ?