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And in 2023 should we still be using terms like "camel jockey"?

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You prefer "raghead"?

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Not really. She's an anti semite, by definition a racist, and an extremely unpleasant person who doesn't see the irony in all the things she enjoys here should couldn't there…but the racial epithets make you no better than her [even though I'm on your side].

Your both being racists she's just being more overt about it.

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I didn't know that raghead was referring to a specific person.... who is this "she" that you are talking about?

I thought raghead was just a derogatory slang for muslim.

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The conversation you replied to was about Rashida Tlaib. She is neither a camel jockey nor a raghead.

She's an awful human being for her views. Calling her racial slurs detracts from how awful she is because it makes the person talking about her look just as awful.

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We live in a clown world where someone thinks calling someone a racial epithet is the moral equivalent of advocating genocide, but here we are.

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Consider also that many on this board think calling someone a name is the intellectual equivalent of making an intelligent argument

I'm really surprised the IDF hasn't gone into Gaza yet (full scale).

Could they be trying to free the hostages first?

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And in 2023 should we still be using terms like "camel jockey"?

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You prefer "raghead"?

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Not really. She's an anti semite, by definition a racist, and an extremely unpleasant person who doesn't see the irony in all the things she enjoys here should couldn't there…but the racial epithets make you no better than her [even though I'm on your side].

Your both being racists she's just being more overt about it.

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I didn't know that raghead was referring to a specific person.... who is this "she" that you are talking about?

I thought raghead was just a derogatory slang for muslim.

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The conversation you replied to was about Rashida Tlaib. She is neither a camel jockey nor a raghead.

She's an awful human being for her views. Calling her racial slurs detracts from how awful she is because it makes the person talking about her look just as awful.

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Calling someone a racial epithet is definitely not helpful, it makes it near impossible to hear anything else after that for most, and it is a signal that the person using them *may* be a bigot, OR it may be harmless joke from someone who doesn't know how to read the room in the 21st century.

But in this day and age, where you can get canceled, lose a job, or get the **** beat out of you just for mentioning the letter that follows m, then yeah, best to avoid that with all people groups. Especially when ragheads have been known to murder people for much less than being called a raghead.

It is ludicrous that we live in an age where people no longer believe sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me. Instead, we live in a world now where if you say a word someone doesn't like, the mob thinks they are justified in breaking your bones.

We live in a clown world where someone thinks calling someone a racial epithet is the moral equivalent of advocating genocide, but here we are.

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Its also just about power and who has it and who does not.

You can walk on to Baylor's campus right now and yell at the top of your lungs "**** White people" and nothing will happen to you. Unlikely our administration would even give you a talking to

Go on to our campus and yell out the N Word and you might just be arrested....you will certainly be kicked out of school.

There is no intellectual argument involved in any of this...its just about exerting raw power.

yes, agreed.

of course a ninnyhammer like you would say that

err... ok, on second thought, you have a good point.

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I'm really surprised the IDF hasn't gone into Gaza yet (full scale).

Could they be trying to free the hostages first?

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well, despite those that think the IDF was inventing weather reports, there really was flooding in Israel, and then there is/was a huge sandstorm coming in from Jordan that would interfere with air support and recon. Also, I think they were gathering more intel and making targeted strikes taking out more leaders. I've heard reports they captured plans of all the underground tunnels and are taking care of those before sending in ground troops, but don't know how reliable that report was

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What does it take to get f'ing fired as a teacher?
(Answer: Standing with Israel or Trump or the GOP)

He might as well have a picture of a plane flying into the WTC in "solidarity".

This is a teacher at @NYCSchools. The image represents the Hamas terrorists who hang glided into Israel and murdered over 1,300 men, women, and children. Disgraceful pic.twitter.com/ZV1ijaUGET

— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) October 15, 2023

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Pretty sure you have to use the wrong pronouns to get fired.

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There is a small but growing list of countries that will put you in prison for that now.

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I'm really surprised the IDF hasn't gone into Gaza yet (full scale).

Could they be trying to free the hostages first?

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Probably,

They also had weather problems and it takes time to mobilize 300,000+ soldiers.

I all assume they are planning what they want to do....long term military occupation to smash Hamas or perhaps a total destruction of Gaza and ethnic cleansing by driving the populace into Egypt....we will soon find out.

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San Diego.

We live in America. When did every f'ing person get a Palestinian flag?

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The have a whole section of Palestinian Flags for sale at Target. They are right next the Trans Kids and I heart Satan Clearance section.

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Maybe the Iranians gave him more $$$$. Or maybe his Chinese bosses want him supporting their ally, Iran.

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This is the scary part.

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yep. that's the thing with Joe. He is either trying to find the angle of who is willing to pay the most and then doing what they want, or he is doing something because he is being blackmailed, or he is covering up for either something he or his idiot son already did, or he is wondering if it is nap time yet, or he is pandering to special interests groups, see item 1 on the list.

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Good discussion here

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How many Americans would have had to die on 9/11 to make it equivalent to what Hamas just did to Israel? 100,000 or more is my rough estimate.

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING: President Biden warns Israel not to occupy Gaza.

While Biden stands with Israel against Hamas, he still says on 60 Minutes that a new occupation of Gaza would “be a big mistake.”

Millions of voices standing up for humanity are being heard. Keep going. pic.twitter.com/PvtyTKT0LE

— Rep. Jamaal Bowman Ed.D. (@JamaalBowmanNY) October 16, 2023

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I told you this would happen.

The Carriers are not there to help Israel, they are there to hold Israel in check and to protect Palestinians.

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Not even close.

Carriers are there to send a loud signal to Iran, Syria and even Turkey not to send air strikes against Israel

But as every day passes it is more and more unlikely that Israel invades Gaza.

The pressure on Israel to back down grows.

I think they will back down. Their military is not the dominate force it was 20 years ago.

It's a bitter pill to swallow for sure. Hamas is fundamentally going to get away with the slaughter of hundreds of Israeli civilians. And will only grow in strength as a result.

But Israel simply doesn't have the strength to win a regional war alone.

And they now realize it.

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Israel may or may not have the conventional forces to fight on 3 fronts.

But make no mistake, Israel absolutely has the strength to win a regional war.

And that is our military leaders greatest fear.

I've said it before and I'll say it again

Israel doesn't need us to win this war.

But it is in our best interest to be there for them in case it escalates. Because if Israel's conventional forces get overwhelmed, they go to Plan B. Then it's Jericho time. And you don't want to see what happens when it's Jericho time.

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KaiBear said:

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BREAKING: President Biden warns Israel not to occupy Gaza.

While Biden stands with Israel against Hamas, he still says on 60 Minutes that a new occupation of Gaza would “be a big mistake.”

Millions of voices standing up for humanity are being heard. Keep going. pic.twitter.com/PvtyTKT0LE

— Rep. Jamaal Bowman Ed.D. (@JamaalBowmanNY) October 16, 2023

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I told you this would happen.

The Carriers are not there to help Israel, they are there to hold Israel in check and to protect Palestinians.

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Not even close.

Carriers are there to send a loud signal to Iran, Syria and even Turkey not to send air strikes against Israel

But as every day passes it is more and more unlikely that Israel invades Gaza.

The pressure on Israel to back down grows.

I think they will back down. Their military is not the dominate force it was 20 years ago.

It's a bitter pill to swallow for sure. Hamas is fundamentally going to get away with the slaughter of hundreds of Israeli civilians. And will only grow in strength as a result.

But Israel simply doesn't have the strength to win a regional war alone.

And they now realize it.

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But make no mistake, Israel absolutely has the strength to win a regional war.

And that is our military leaders greatest fear.

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Why would our military leaders fear Israel's winning a regional war?

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Maybe the Iranians gave him more $$$$. Or maybe his Chinese bosses want him supporting their ally, Iran.

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This is the scary part.

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I wish I was joking. Unfortunately I am not.

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FLBear5630 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING: President Biden warns Israel not to occupy Gaza.

While Biden stands with Israel against Hamas, he still says on 60 Minutes that a new occupation of Gaza would “be a big mistake.”

Millions of voices standing up for humanity are being heard. Keep going. pic.twitter.com/PvtyTKT0LE

— Rep. Jamaal Bowman Ed.D. (@JamaalBowmanNY) October 16, 2023

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Biden blinking with supporting Israel, big mistake.

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WOW this complete about face certainly didn't take long.

So much for the Biden administration's unwavering support of Israel.

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That support was the original about face. Obama 2.0, like 1.0, is very much anti-Israel. I suspect the "support" was merely political posturing from the start.

A group of left-wing Democrats have filed a resolution calling for a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, as well as the immediate delivery of humanitarian aid to the more than 2 million civilians caught in Gaza as bombing intensifies.

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CNN: “You are saying, that you want the United States and Israel to bomb Iran even in the absence of direct evidence of their involvement in this attack?” LINDSEY

Graham: “Yeah” pic.twitter.com/E1cWpSu2jH

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) October 14, 2023

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First of all, he went in to quite a bit of detail explaining that Iran provides the primary financial support for Hamas and Hezbollah and that no more evidence on that is needed. All parties have provided substantial evidence and testimony that is true. I 100% agree with that. So Graham's answer was ultimately affirmative. However, the tweet and the quote "Yeah" is completely misleading. He was not being glib, as that poster is trying to show. I don't know if the tweeter is stupid, or trying to be intellectually dishonest, but the "yeah" was clearly a filler word, acknowledging the question, while he was gathering his thought to give the full answer.

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All par for the course with CNN & other Leftist propaganda outlets but Graham is wrong. He seems to think the solution to every foreign policy issue is for the U.S. to bomb somebody into the Stone Age and invade. That's insanity and one reason so much of the world hates us.

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FIFY. Bombing them into the stone age will usually suffice.

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Not if your goal is to defeat the enemy. Compare the outcomes of WWI & WWII. Which Germany became our ally?

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The one we bombed into the stone age.

To change mindset, you have to thoroughly and utterly defeat your enemy....crush their homes, cities, churches, etc...... That is hard work. Really hard work. And for that reason rarely done.

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All true. We also had years of denazification after the war. Same with Japan.

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historian said:

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boognish_bear said:

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CNN: “You are saying, that you want the United States and Israel to bomb Iran even in the absence of direct evidence of their involvement in this attack?” LINDSEY

Graham: “Yeah” pic.twitter.com/E1cWpSu2jH

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) October 14, 2023

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First of all, he went in to quite a bit of detail explaining that Iran provides the primary financial support for Hamas and Hezbollah and that no more evidence on that is needed. All parties have provided substantial evidence and testimony that is true. I 100% agree with that. So Graham's answer was ultimately affirmative. However, the tweet and the quote "Yeah" is completely misleading. He was not being glib, as that poster is trying to show. I don't know if the tweeter is stupid, or trying to be intellectually dishonest, but the "yeah" was clearly a filler word, acknowledging the question, while he was gathering his thought to give the full answer.

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All par for the course with CNN & other Leftist propaganda outlets but Graham is wrong. He seems to think the solution to every foreign policy issue is for the U.S. to bomb somebody into the Stone Age and invade. That's insanity and one reason so much of the world hates us.

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FIFY. Bombing them into the stone age will usually suffice.

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Not if your goal is to defeat the enemy. Compare the outcomes of WWI & WWII. Which Germany became our ally?

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The one we bombed into the stone age.

To change mindset, you have to thoroughly and utterly defeat your enemy....crush their homes, cities, churches, etc...... That is hard work. Really hard work. And for that reason rarely done.

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Just for reference, this is Cologne, Germany, in 1945.

Do you think any kids lived there?

War is hell. pic.twitter.com/P04yTaCQ3Z

— SNAFU (@FritzPeasant) October 15, 2023

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There are plenty of similar photos of Berlin, Hamburg, Munich, Nuremberg, Stuttgart, Dresden, and other cities.

Osodecentx said:

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BearN said:

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KaiBear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING: President Biden warns Israel not to occupy Gaza.

While Biden stands with Israel against Hamas, he still says on 60 Minutes that a new occupation of Gaza would “be a big mistake.”

Millions of voices standing up for humanity are being heard. Keep going. pic.twitter.com/PvtyTKT0LE

— Rep. Jamaal Bowman Ed.D. (@JamaalBowmanNY) October 16, 2023

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I told you this would happen.

The Carriers are not there to help Israel, they are there to hold Israel in check and to protect Palestinians.

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Not even close.

Carriers are there to send a loud signal to Iran, Syria and even Turkey not to send air strikes against Israel

But as every day passes it is more and more unlikely that Israel invades Gaza.

The pressure on Israel to back down grows.

I think they will back down. Their military is not the dominate force it was 20 years ago.

It's a bitter pill to swallow for sure. Hamas is fundamentally going to get away with the slaughter of hundreds of Israeli civilians. And will only grow in strength as a result.

But Israel simply doesn't have the strength to win a regional war alone.

And they now realize it.

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But make no mistake, Israel absolutely has the strength to win a regional war.

And that is our military leaders greatest fear.

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Why would our military leaders fear Israel's winning a regional war?

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What I was implying there was in response to the previous poster who thought Israel was starting to realize they couldn't win a regional war.

Israel will use nuclear weapons before they lose a conventional war.

That is our leaders' greatest fear. And Iran is about to FAFO.

I personally don't think it will come to that though. Someone will come up with a peace plan that will calm things down again for another 3-4 years, then all hell will break loose and we can do all this saber rattling again, for real. Or Nukes, then peace. Too soon to say.

BearN said:

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KaiBear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING: President Biden warns Israel not to occupy Gaza.

While Biden stands with Israel against Hamas, he still says on 60 Minutes that a new occupation of Gaza would “be a big mistake.”

Millions of voices standing up for humanity are being heard. Keep going. pic.twitter.com/PvtyTKT0LE

— Rep. Jamaal Bowman Ed.D. (@JamaalBowmanNY) October 16, 2023

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I told you this would happen.

The Carriers are not there to help Israel, they are there to hold Israel in check and to protect Palestinians.

---

Not even close.

Carriers are there to send a loud signal to Iran, Syria and even Turkey not to send air strikes against Israel

But as every day passes it is more and more unlikely that Israel invades Gaza.

The pressure on Israel to back down grows.

I think they will back down. Their military is not the dominate force it was 20 years ago.

It's a bitter pill to swallow for sure. Hamas is fundamentally going to get away with the slaughter of hundreds of Israeli civilians. And will only grow in strength as a result.

But Israel simply doesn't have the strength to win a regional war alone.

And they now realize it.

---

Israel may or may not have the conventional forces to fight on 3 fronts.

But make no mistake, Israel absolutely has the strength to win a regional war.

And that is our military leaders greatest fear.

I've said it before and I'll say it again

Israel doesn't need us to win this war.

But it is in our best interest to be there for them in case it escalates. Because if Israel's conventional forces get overwhelmed, they go to Plan B. Then it's Jericho time. And you don't want to see what happens when it's Jericho time.

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samson defense.

- kkm

{ sipping coffee }

{ eating oatmeal raisin cookies }

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

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whiterock said:

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whiterock said:

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historian said:

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whiterock said:

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historian said:

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BearN said:

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boognish_bear said:

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CNN: “You are saying, that you want the United States and Israel to bomb Iran even in the absence of direct evidence of their involvement in this attack?” LINDSEY

Graham: “Yeah” pic.twitter.com/E1cWpSu2jH

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) October 14, 2023

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First of all, he went in to quite a bit of detail explaining that Iran provides the primary financial support for Hamas and Hezbollah and that no more evidence on that is needed. All parties have provided substantial evidence and testimony that is true. I 100% agree with that. So Graham's answer was ultimately affirmative. However, the tweet and the quote "Yeah" is completely misleading. He was not being glib, as that poster is trying to show. I don't know if the tweeter is stupid, or trying to be intellectually dishonest, but the "yeah" was clearly a filler word, acknowledging the question, while he was gathering his thought to give the full answer.

---

All par for the course with CNN & other Leftist propaganda outlets but Graham is wrong. He seems to think the solution to every foreign policy issue is for the U.S. to bomb somebody into the Stone Age and invade. That's insanity and one reason so much of the world hates us.

---

FIFY. Bombing them into the stone age will usually suffice.

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Not if your goal is to defeat the enemy. Compare the outcomes of WWI & WWII. Which Germany became our ally?

---

The one we bombed into the stone age.

To change mindset, you have to thoroughly and utterly defeat your enemy....crush their homes, cities, churches, etc...... That is hard work. Really hard work. And for that reason rarely done.

---

Just for reference, this is Cologne, Germany, in 1945.

Do you think any kids lived there?

War is hell. pic.twitter.com/P04yTaCQ3Z

— SNAFU (@FritzPeasant) October 15, 2023

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There are plenty of similar photos of Berlin, Hamburg, Munich, Nuremberg, Stuttgart, Dresden, and other cities.

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What a freaking civilizational catastrophe that war was....

And right on the heels of World War I

william said:

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BearN said:

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KaiBear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING: President Biden warns Israel not to occupy Gaza.

While Biden stands with Israel against Hamas, he still says on 60 Minutes that a new occupation of Gaza would “be a big mistake.”

Millions of voices standing up for humanity are being heard. Keep going. pic.twitter.com/PvtyTKT0LE

— Rep. Jamaal Bowman Ed.D. (@JamaalBowmanNY) October 16, 2023

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I told you this would happen.

The Carriers are not there to help Israel, they are there to hold Israel in check and to protect Palestinians.

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Not even close.

Carriers are there to send a loud signal to Iran, Syria and even Turkey not to send air strikes against Israel

But as every day passes it is more and more unlikely that Israel invades Gaza.

The pressure on Israel to back down grows.

I think they will back down. Their military is not the dominate force it was 20 years ago.

It's a bitter pill to swallow for sure. Hamas is fundamentally going to get away with the slaughter of hundreds of Israeli civilians. And will only grow in strength as a result.

But Israel simply doesn't have the strength to win a regional war alone.

And they now realize it.

---

Israel may or may not have the conventional forces to fight on 3 fronts.

But make no mistake, Israel absolutely has the strength to win a regional war.

And that is our military leaders greatest fear.

I've said it before and I'll say it again

Israel doesn't need us to win this war.

But it is in our best interest to be there for them in case it escalates. Because if Israel's conventional forces get overwhelmed, they go to Plan B. Then it's Jericho time. And you don't want to see what happens when it's Jericho time.

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samson defense.

- kkm

{ sipping coffee }

{ eating oatmeal raisin cookies }

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

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Ahhh yes, my bad. Samson Option is what I was referring to. Jericho was the rumored code name for the weapons system.

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Osodecentx said:

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BearN said:

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KaiBear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING: President Biden warns Israel not to occupy Gaza.

While Biden stands with Israel against Hamas, he still says on 60 Minutes that a new occupation of Gaza would “be a big mistake.”

Millions of voices standing up for humanity are being heard. Keep going. pic.twitter.com/PvtyTKT0LE

— Rep. Jamaal Bowman Ed.D. (@JamaalBowmanNY) October 16, 2023

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I told you this would happen.

The Carriers are not there to help Israel, they are there to hold Israel in check and to protect Palestinians.

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Not even close.

Carriers are there to send a loud signal to Iran, Syria and even Turkey not to send air strikes against Israel

But as every day passes it is more and more unlikely that Israel invades Gaza.

The pressure on Israel to back down grows.

I think they will back down. Their military is not the dominate force it was 20 years ago.

It's a bitter pill to swallow for sure. Hamas is fundamentally going to get away with the slaughter of hundreds of Israeli civilians. And will only grow in strength as a result.

But Israel simply doesn't have the strength to win a regional war alone.

And they now realize it.

---

But make no mistake, Israel absolutely has the strength to win a regional war.

And that is our military leaders greatest fear.

---

Why would our military leaders fear Israel's winning a regional war?

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What I was implying there was in response to the previous poster who thought Israel was starting to realize they couldn't win a regional war.

Israel will use nuclear weapons before they lose a conventional war.

That is our leaders' greatest fear. And Iran is about to FAFO.

I personally don't think it will come to that though. Someone will come up with a peace plan that will calm things down again for another 3-4 years, then all hell will break loose and we can do all this saber rattling again, for real. Or Nukes, then peace. Too soon to say.

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thanks

UPDATE: The Israeli Parliament building (The Knesset) has just been evacuated in Western Jerusalem as rockets fired from Gaza were directed towards the area.

Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu was reportedly still in the building, having just finished a speech.

To those who claim… pic.twitter.com/WfJzZbWKX4

— Brian Krassenstein (@krassenstein) October 16, 2023

I just saw this, presumably from yesterday

JUST IN: Iran appears to back down and announces they won’t be assisting Hamas as they say they will *not* be directly involved in the Israel-Hamas war.

In an announcement to the United Nations in New York, Iran said “the resistance can defend themselves.”

“Iran's armed forces… pic.twitter.com/GHKZky8Fib

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) October 15, 2023

Are they biding their time? Waiting for the $6 Billion to clear? Or Putting the last touches on their own nuclear response? Or have they come to their senses? Ok that last one was a bit much.

BearFan33 said:

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I'm really surprised the IDF hasn't gone into Gaza yet (full scale).

Could they be trying to free the hostages first?

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Maybe they are giving more time for civilians to flee. Or maybe the logistical challenges are behind the delays. There are many possible reasons.

It's also possible they want yo keep they enemy guessing. They don't know when it will happen. The more unexpected it is when I toes, the greater the advantage.

I'm just guessing.

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Jacques Strap said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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What does it take to get f'ing fired as a teacher?
(Answer: Standing with Israel or Trump or the GOP)

He might as well have a picture of a plane flying into the WTC in "solidarity".

This is a teacher at @NYCSchools. The image represents the Hamas terrorists who hang glided into Israel and murdered over 1,300 men, women, and children. Disgraceful pic.twitter.com/ZV1ijaUGET

— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) October 15, 2023

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Pretty sure you have to use the wrong pronouns to get fired.

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There is a small but growing list of countries that will put you in prison for that now.

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Including most of Europe.

Personally, I have always preferred the term Muck Mucks.

BearN said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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historian said:

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Maybe the Iranians gave him more $$$$. Or maybe his Chinese bosses want him supporting their ally, Iran.

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This is the scary part.

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yep. that's the thing with Joe. He is either trying to find the angle of who is willing to pay the most and then doing what they want, or he is doing something because he is being blackmailed, or he is covering up for either something he or his idiot son already did, or he is wondering if it is nap time yet, or he is pandering to special interests groups, see item 1 on the list.

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All kinds of options, none of them good.

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Jack Bauer said:

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Good discussion here

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How many Americans would have had to die on 9/11 to make it equivalent to what Hamas just did to Israel? 100,000 or more is my rough estimate.

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I heard somewhere it was 40,000 but I wouldn't be surprised if the number were higher. Our population is 340 million compared to 9 million in Israel. Somebody will check the numbers & do the simple algebra. Not me!

Osodecentx said:

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A group of left-wing Democrats have filed a resolution calling for a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, as well as the immediate delivery of humanitarian aid to the more than 2 million civilians caught in Gaza as bombing intensifies.

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Led by the Squad, no doubt. Usually best to ignore those Islamofascists.

BearN said:

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I just saw this, presumably from yesterday

JUST IN: Iran appears to back down and announces they won’t be assisting Hamas as they say they will *not* be directly involved in the Israel-Hamas war.

In an announcement to the United Nations in New York, Iran said “the resistance can defend themselves.”

“Iran's armed forces… pic.twitter.com/GHKZky8Fib

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) October 15, 2023

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Maybe that's what the Saudi-Iranian talks were about: don't mess with Israel, you won't like the outcome. They have proven many times since their finding that they are very serious about defending themselves & protecting their interests. And Netanyahu is not someone to toy with.