FLBear5630 said:
Doc Holliday said:
FLBear5630 said:
Doc Holliday said:
FLBear5630 said:
Well, I guess Johnson is a Neo-Con, UniParty, Liberal...
This line sounds familiar, McCarthy, Ryan, Boehner and now Johnson. All Neo-Cons? All UniParty Dems?
He's completely flipped on his positions.
He was once heavily against FISA abuses, now he's pro FISA. That means something transpired and made him turn his back on his constituents.
It couldn't possibly that he understands the realities of what he can get done and what he has to give.
There are realities to a political society that the far right and far left fail to realize. You have give, to get.
Unless you think after 2024 you will have a majority in the House, Senate and Presidency that will be able to force a platform through no matter what the Dems think. If that is the position, you stalemate the system and wait...
Right now, the Wall St Journal is predicting
Biden
GOP Senate 57-50
GOP House 243-233
More deadlock
I think Trump can win, but I don't think he will be POTUS. They will go to any measure necessary to prevent him from taking office. GOP will also purposefully push anti abortion so they don't win.
I believe the future is a super majority for democrats. We're absolutely going off the deep end. We're going to get what we deserve: it's going to get VERY expensive to live here and society will increasingly have to walk on woke eggshells. I hope you're ready for it.
I am not as pessimistic, if Trump loses he will lose on his merits. Not because some "black ops" steal.
Just like Biden, if he loses it is on his merits.
Really?
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There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs. Both surprises were the result of an informal alliance between left-wing activists and business titans. The pact was formalized in a terse, little-noticed joint statement of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and AFL-CIO published on Election Day. Both sides would come to see it as a sort of implicit bargaininspired by the summer's massive, sometimes destructive racial-justice protestsin which the forces of labor came together with the forces of capital to keep the peace and oppose Trump's assault on democracy.
The handshake between business and labor was just one component of a vast, cross-partisan campaign to protect the electionan extraordinary shadow effort dedicated not to winning the vote but to ensuring it would be free and fair, credible and uncorrupted. For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America's institutions as they came under simultaneous attack from a remorseless pandemic and an autocratically inclined President. Though much of this activity took place on the left, it was separate from the Biden campaign and crossed ideological lines, with crucial contributions by nonpartisan and conservative actors. The scenario the shadow campaigners were desperate to stop was not a Trump victory. It was an election so calamitous that no result could be discerned at all, a failure of the central act of democratic self-governance that has been a hallmark of America since its founding.
Their work touched every aspect of the election. They got states to change voting systems and laws and helped secure hundreds of millions in public and private funding. They fended off voter-suppression lawsuits, recruited armies of poll workers and got millions of people to vote by mail for the first time.
They successfully pressured social media companies to take a harder line against disinformation and used data-driven strategies to fight viral smears. They executed national public-awareness campaigns that helped Americans understand how the vote count would unfold over days or weeks, preventing Trump's conspiracy theories and false claims of victory from getting more traction. After Election Day, they monitored every pressure point to ensure that Trump could not overturn the result. "The untold story of the election is the thousands of people of both parties who accomplished the triumph of American democracy at its very foundation," says Norm Eisen, a prominent lawyer and former Obama Administration official who recruited Republicans and Democrats to the board of the Voter Protection Program.]
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
