I fear the new acerbic autocrat version of Herbert Hoover is going to Smoot Hawley our economy into depression after the Biden insanity. The only policy he has any real details on is his "eye for an eye" tariff scheme. Which will fly about as much as his "Mexico will pay for the wall" BS.boognish_bear said:Guy Noir said:GrowlTowel said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Trump wants no part of any debate stage at this point. He has made that very clear. Very disappointing.Porteroso said:
Only tells the preliminary story. After debating Biden, Haley would flat out destroy him. As would DeSantis. After debating Biden, Trump would figure out how to seem like he had even worse dementia.
Honest question - why? What about him or his positions are unclear to anyone at this point?
Trump has not addressed how he will control spending and how he will control inflation.
Don't worry....he has the greatest plan and the greatest people working on it. Some people are saying it might be the greatest economic plan ever.
Poll shows DeSantis and Haley would both perform better than Trump against Biden
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EXCLUSIVE: NBC News' @DashaBurns spoke with Gov. Ron DeSantis in his first interview following last night's Iowa caucuses. When pressed on whether or not he was satisfied with his second place result, DeSantis said, "I was viewed very favorably." pic.twitter.com/evZD27KEPH
— MSNBC (@MSNBC) January 16, 2024
We’ve had five great debates in this campaign. Unfortunately, Donald Trump has ducked all of them. He has nowhere left to hide. The next debate I do will either be with Donald Trump or with Joe Biden. I look forward to it.
— Nikki Haley (@NikkiHaley) January 16, 2024
I don't understand why any human being would support Biden. He is not mentally capable of the job, AND everybody knows it.Whiskey Pete said:I can't understand why any liberal still supports Biden, especially when they could've thrown their support to RFK Jr.Forest Bueller_bf said:I just can't understand why Republicans keep voting for Trump in the primaries. Is Trump like porn to some people, an addiction they know is bad for them, but they just can't quit it.Mothra said:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4409117-trump-desantis-haley-leading-biden-poll/
Haley had an 8-point lead over Biden, with 53 percent of support compared to Biden's 45 percent. This is likely due to her garnering more support among moderates and Independents than what Trump and DeSantis received, according to the survey.
The poll found that 59 percent of independent voters would support Haley in a matchup with Biden, while 55 percent and 54 percent of independents would back DeSantis and Trump, respectively.
In a contest with Biden, DeSantis received 51 percent of support while the president received 48 percent.
The matchup between Biden and Trump, the two frontrunners for the 2024 election, was the closest among the GOP presidential hopefuls. The poll found that 50 percent of respondents would vote for Trump and 48 percent would vote for Biden.
Trump still maintains a comfortable lead in the GOP primary, according to the new survey, leading the field by 55 points among GOP voters. Trump has 69 percent of support, DeSantis has 14 percent and Haley has 12 percent.
The poll was conducted between Jan. 10-12 among 2,870 adults and has a margin of error of 2.5 percentage points. The poll also included responses from 786 likely Republican primary voters, which has a margin of error of 4.7 percentage points.
Oh well, I guess the Kennedy isn't extreme enough
At least Trump has his mental facilities.
Some are saying it will be HUGE, the hugest in the history of economic plans.boognish_bear said:Guy Noir said:GrowlTowel said:RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Trump wants no part of any debate stage at this point. He has made that very clear. Very disappointing.Porteroso said:
Only tells the preliminary story. After debating Biden, Haley would flat out destroy him. As would DeSantis. After debating Biden, Trump would figure out how to seem like he had even worse dementia.
Honest question - why? What about him or his positions are unclear to anyone at this point?
Trump has not addressed how he will control spending and how he will control inflation.
Don't worry....he has the greatest plan and the greatest people working on it. Some people are saying it might be the greatest economic plan ever.
Is something shocking possible? Sure. But it's highly unlikely. Trump is so toxic, and so polarizing that I firmly believe he will lure disaffected Democrats and independents back into the Biden camp come election day.Whiskey Pete said:I don't think he'll win, but I can't say there's no way he can win.Mothra said:No clue. I think predicting anything at this point with any certainty is difficult. But I think Trump has an uphill battle, and anyone buying into him at this point is buying fool's gold. He's a loser and less-likable retread. I am doubtful he receives more support now than in 2020.Whiskey Pete said:RFK Jr. is already pulling votes from AND from Biden (according the polls I've seen - about 36% of independents are backing Kennedy Jr.). Are you saying that more of the 31% of independent Trump voters are going to do a last second switcharoo and change their vote to RFK Jr. from Trump and that less of the 30% of independent Biden voters will switch to RFK Jr.?Mothra said:It's possible, but in the same vein, he could also pull some independents away from Trump. I am not convinced Kennedy helps Trump anymore than he hurts him.Whiskey Pete said:RFK Jr. has been polling better among independents than both Trump and Biden. Look for many independents to cast their ballot for the Kennedy.Mothra said:And they will still vote Biden nevertheless.Doc Holliday said:Independents and moderates can't financially afford democrats. Money speaks the loudest.Mothra said:Going to need a lot more than MAGA or aligned MAGA to win this election. Trump is going to need independents and moderates, and just like last time, I don't see that ever happening.Doc Holliday said:Mothra said:I will believe it when I see it. I don't think there's any chance in hell of this.Doc Holliday said:Biden and democrats have played their cards too much and shown independents what they're really about and they don't like it.ATL Bear said:It's easy to rally the loyalists. It's harder to rally the non loyalists. That's what will do him in in the general.Doc Holliday said:
She wouldn't.
Trump just owned Iowa. The Iowa Caucus is the biggest blowout in history by far.
Trump will get more votes than he did last time. Biden will get far less.My problem with the "yes but 49% of Iowans wanted a Trump alternative" take is that the alternatives are aligned with Trump. Look at it this way:
— David Weigel (@daveweigel) January 16, 2024
MAGA (Trump): 51%
Reformed MAGA (DeSantis): 21%
Orthodox MAGA (Vivek): 8%
Republican Classic: 19%
Wait and see.
This reminds me of when I coached track. My kids would outperform the Southlake kids.
It didn't matter that the Oak Cliff kids would dust mine off quickly. They weren't at out meets.
It didn't matter that the Oak Cliff kids would dust mine off quickly. They weren't at out meets.
Mothra said:No clue. I think predicting anything at this point with any certainty is difficult. But I think Trump has an uphill battle, and anyone buying into him at this point is buying fool's gold. He's a loser and less-likable retread. I am doubtful he receives more support now than in 2020.Whiskey Pete said:RFK Jr. is already pulling votes from AND from Biden (according the polls I've seen - about 36% of independents are backing Kennedy Jr.). Are you saying that more of the 31% of independent Trump voters are going to do a last second switcharoo and change their vote to RFK Jr. from Trump and that less of the 30% of independent Biden voters will switch to RFK Jr.?Mothra said:It's possible, but in the same vein, he could also pull some independents away from Trump. I am not convinced Kennedy helps Trump anymore than he hurts him.Whiskey Pete said:RFK Jr. has been polling better among independents than both Trump and Biden. Look for many independents to cast their ballot for the Kennedy.Mothra said:And they will still vote Biden nevertheless.Doc Holliday said:Independents and moderates can't financially afford democrats. Money speaks the loudest.Mothra said:Going to need a lot more than MAGA or aligned MAGA to win this election. Trump is going to need independents and moderates, and just like last time, I don't see that ever happening.Doc Holliday said:Mothra said:I will believe it when I see it. I don't think there's any chance in hell of this.Doc Holliday said:Biden and democrats have played their cards too much and shown independents what they're really about and they don't like it.ATL Bear said:It's easy to rally the loyalists. It's harder to rally the non loyalists. That's what will do him in in the general.Doc Holliday said:
She wouldn't.
Trump just owned Iowa. The Iowa Caucus is the biggest blowout in history by far.
Trump will get more votes than he did last time. Biden will get far less.My problem with the "yes but 49% of Iowans wanted a Trump alternative" take is that the alternatives are aligned with Trump. Look at it this way:
— David Weigel (@daveweigel) January 16, 2024
MAGA (Trump): 51%
Reformed MAGA (DeSantis): 21%
Orthodox MAGA (Vivek): 8%
Republican Classic: 19%
Wait and see.
100 percent correct.
Sure he does.Forest Bueller_bf said:I don't understand why any human being would support Biden. He is not mentally capable of the job, AND everybody knows it.Whiskey Pete said:I can't understand why any liberal still supports Biden, especially when they could've thrown their support to RFK Jr.Forest Bueller_bf said:I just can't understand why Republicans keep voting for Trump in the primaries. Is Trump like porn to some people, an addiction they know is bad for them, but they just can't quit it.Mothra said:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4409117-trump-desantis-haley-leading-biden-poll/
Haley had an 8-point lead over Biden, with 53 percent of support compared to Biden's 45 percent. This is likely due to her garnering more support among moderates and Independents than what Trump and DeSantis received, according to the survey.
The poll found that 59 percent of independent voters would support Haley in a matchup with Biden, while 55 percent and 54 percent of independents would back DeSantis and Trump, respectively.
In a contest with Biden, DeSantis received 51 percent of support while the president received 48 percent.
The matchup between Biden and Trump, the two frontrunners for the 2024 election, was the closest among the GOP presidential hopefuls. The poll found that 50 percent of respondents would vote for Trump and 48 percent would vote for Biden.
Trump still maintains a comfortable lead in the GOP primary, according to the new survey, leading the field by 55 points among GOP voters. Trump has 69 percent of support, DeSantis has 14 percent and Haley has 12 percent.
The poll was conducted between Jan. 10-12 among 2,870 adults and has a margin of error of 2.5 percentage points. The poll also included responses from 786 likely Republican primary voters, which has a margin of error of 4.7 percentage points.
Oh well, I guess the Kennedy isn't extreme enough
At least Trump has his mental facilities.
Donald Trump
insists he would be able to wipe out the United States's debt in eight years.
The Republican presidential front-runner said in a wide-ranging interview with The Washington Post that he'd be able to get rid of the more than $19 trillion debt "over a period of eight years."
Eliminating that amount of debt in eight years is highly improbable, according to most economists, The Washington Post reported. It could require using $2 trillion a year from the annual $4 trillion budget to pay off holders of the debt.
Trump insisted in the interview that "renegotiating all of our deals" would help pay down the debt by sparking economic growth.
"The power is trade. Our deals are so bad," Trump said. "I would immediately start renegotiating our trade deals with Mexico, China, Japan and all of these countries that are just absolutely destroying us."
He said it would take 8 years. He just ran it up the first 4 so he could show off with the nexr 4 yall are fixing to give him.
I question the mental facilities of anyone that believes him.
Forest Bueller_bf said:I don't understand why any human being would support Biden. He is not mentally capable of the job, AND everybody knows it.Whiskey Pete said:I can't understand why any liberal still supports Biden, especially when they could've thrown their support to RFK Jr.Forest Bueller_bf said:I just can't understand why Republicans keep voting for Trump in the primaries. Is Trump like porn to some people, an addiction they know is bad for them, but they just can't quit it.Mothra said:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4409117-trump-desantis-haley-leading-biden-poll/
Haley had an 8-point lead over Biden, with 53 percent of support compared to Biden's 45 percent. This is likely due to her garnering more support among moderates and Independents than what Trump and DeSantis received, according to the survey.
The poll found that 59 percent of independent voters would support Haley in a matchup with Biden, while 55 percent and 54 percent of independents would back DeSantis and Trump, respectively.
In a contest with Biden, DeSantis received 51 percent of support while the president received 48 percent.
The matchup between Biden and Trump, the two frontrunners for the 2024 election, was the closest among the GOP presidential hopefuls. The poll found that 50 percent of respondents would vote for Trump and 48 percent would vote for Biden.
Trump still maintains a comfortable lead in the GOP primary, according to the new survey, leading the field by 55 points among GOP voters. Trump has 69 percent of support, DeSantis has 14 percent and Haley has 12 percent.
The poll was conducted between Jan. 10-12 among 2,870 adults and has a margin of error of 2.5 percentage points. The poll also included responses from 786 likely Republican primary voters, which has a margin of error of 4.7 percentage points.
Oh well, I guess the Kennedy isn't extreme enough
At least Trump has his mental facilities.
He doesn't but he's out of sight. By summer, he'll be back in the spotlight and he has that ***** It runs in his family.
Sen. Marco Rubio told me that he did not give his home-state governor, Ron DeSantis, a headsup before he announced his endorsement of Donald Trump.
— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 17, 2024
In fact, Rubio said: "I haven't talked to Gov. DeSantis in a while now... I endorsed the candidate in the race who asked for my…
same could be said about Biden.. the adults in the room turned out to be mental patientsMothra said:No clue. I think predicting anything at this point with any certainty is difficult. But I think Trump has an uphill battle, and anyone buying into him at this point is buying fool's gold. He's a loser and less-likable retread. I am doubtful he receives more support now than in 2020.Whiskey Pete said:RFK Jr. is already pulling votes from AND from Biden (according the polls I've seen - about 36% of independents are backing Kennedy Jr.). Are you saying that more of the 31% of independent Trump voters are going to do a last second switcharoo and change their vote to RFK Jr. from Trump and that less of the 30% of independent Biden voters will switch to RFK Jr.?Mothra said:It's possible, but in the same vein, he could also pull some independents away from Trump. I am not convinced Kennedy helps Trump anymore than he hurts him.Whiskey Pete said:RFK Jr. has been polling better among independents than both Trump and Biden. Look for many independents to cast their ballot for the Kennedy.Mothra said:And they will still vote Biden nevertheless.Doc Holliday said:Independents and moderates can't financially afford democrats. Money speaks the loudest.Mothra said:Going to need a lot more than MAGA or aligned MAGA to win this election. Trump is going to need independents and moderates, and just like last time, I don't see that ever happening.Doc Holliday said:Mothra said:I will believe it when I see it. I don't think there's any chance in hell of this.Doc Holliday said:Biden and democrats have played their cards too much and shown independents what they're really about and they don't like it.ATL Bear said:It's easy to rally the loyalists. It's harder to rally the non loyalists. That's what will do him in in the general.Doc Holliday said:
She wouldn't.
Trump just owned Iowa. The Iowa Caucus is the biggest blowout in history by far.
Trump will get more votes than he did last time. Biden will get far less.My problem with the "yes but 49% of Iowans wanted a Trump alternative" take is that the alternatives are aligned with Trump. Look at it this way:
— David Weigel (@daveweigel) January 16, 2024
MAGA (Trump): 51%
Reformed MAGA (DeSantis): 21%
Orthodox MAGA (Vivek): 8%
Republican Classic: 19%
Wait and see.
“Nikki Haley, Ambassador to the UN, has been very special to me.”
— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) January 18, 2024
The Haley campaign just released this ad showing clips of Trump praising her in previous years.
Thoughts? pic.twitter.com/N4OQPEvsX6
I don't think that ad will go over well.boognish_bear said:“Nikki Haley, Ambassador to the UN, has been very special to me.”
— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) January 18, 2024
The Haley campaign just released this ad showing clips of Trump praising her in previous years.
Thoughts? pic.twitter.com/N4OQPEvsX6
She's not getting Trump supporters over to her side. If her campaign wants to release an ad of a guy they hate saying good things about her, it probably won't play well to the Never Trump crowd
Trump is confused about his own record. Under Trump's leadership, Republicans lost the House, the Senate, and the White House. I crush Biden by double digits, while Trump barely squeaks by Biden on a good day. https://t.co/dQxvFDtJIU
— Nikki Haley (@NikkiHaley) January 18, 2024
boognish_bear said:Trump is confused about his own record. Under Trump's leadership, Republicans lost the House, the Senate, and the White House. I crush Biden by double digits, while Trump barely squeaks by Biden on a good day. https://t.co/dQxvFDtJIU
— Nikki Haley (@NikkiHaley) January 18, 2024
She's not wrong.
Mothra said:boognish_bear said:Trump is confused about his own record. Under Trump's leadership, Republicans lost the House, the Senate, and the White House. I crush Biden by double digits, while Trump barely squeaks by Biden on a good day. https://t.co/dQxvFDtJIU
— Nikki Haley (@NikkiHaley) January 18, 2024
She's not wrong.
True. But the same can be said of every modern president except GWB. He is the only one to my knowledge that gained seats in Congress (2002) and that was mostly because of the War.
Never forget that he backed Hershel Walker and Dr Oz for Senate seats.Mothra said:boognish_bear said:Trump is confused about his own record. Under Trump's leadership, Republicans lost the House, the Senate, and the White House. I crush Biden by double digits, while Trump barely squeaks by Biden on a good day. https://t.co/dQxvFDtJIU
— Nikki Haley (@NikkiHaley) January 18, 2024
She's not wrong.
ATL Bear said:Never forget that he backed Hershel Walker and Dr Oz for Senate seats.Mothra said:boognish_bear said:Trump is confused about his own record. Under Trump's leadership, Republicans lost the House, the Senate, and the White House. I crush Biden by double digits, while Trump barely squeaks by Biden on a good day. https://t.co/dQxvFDtJIU
— Nikki Haley (@NikkiHaley) January 18, 2024
She's not wrong.
Pretty much all of the candidates who he endorsed (I.e. kissed the ring) got their asses kicked in 2022.
Yet somehow this retread loser is supposedly our best chance at beating Biden. Simply incredible. Guess second times a charm!
He supports many policies that are good for our country. That means more to many of us than mean tweets.Forest Bueller_bf said:I just can't understand why Republicans keep voting for Trump in the primaries. Is Trump like porn to some people, an addiction they know is bad for them, but they just can't quit it.Mothra said:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4409117-trump-desantis-haley-leading-biden-poll/
Haley had an 8-point lead over Biden, with 53 percent of support compared to Biden's 45 percent. This is likely due to her garnering more support among moderates and Independents than what Trump and DeSantis received, according to the survey.
The poll found that 59 percent of independent voters would support Haley in a matchup with Biden, while 55 percent and 54 percent of independents would back DeSantis and Trump, respectively.
In a contest with Biden, DeSantis received 51 percent of support while the president received 48 percent.
The matchup between Biden and Trump, the two frontrunners for the 2024 election, was the closest among the GOP presidential hopefuls. The poll found that 50 percent of respondents would vote for Trump and 48 percent would vote for Biden.
Trump still maintains a comfortable lead in the GOP primary, according to the new survey, leading the field by 55 points among GOP voters. Trump has 69 percent of support, DeSantis has 14 percent and Haley has 12 percent.
The poll was conducted between Jan. 10-12 among 2,870 adults and has a margin of error of 2.5 percentage points. The poll also included responses from 786 likely Republican primary voters, which has a margin of error of 4.7 percentage points.
Trump was the first president since Hoover to lose reelection, the House and the Senate. https://t.co/M5Vi8CDzUG
— Aaron Blake (@AaronBlake) January 18, 2024
Guy Noir said:
Trump has not ever shown any effort to reduce the debt/deficit or reduce inflation. The $600 Billion to $1 Trillion interest payments the USA will need to pay will really hurt the USA economy over the next several years.
Trump has not participated in any debates and has not had to address these hard issues this election cycle.
If you do the math is too late to fix the financial side of this mess. We are on the verge of ceasing to exist as a nation. If Trump can get the border under control and start mass deportations, that will be a start.
Mothra said:ATL Bear said:Never forget that he backed Hershel Walker and Dr Oz for Senate seats.Mothra said:boognish_bear said:Trump is confused about his own record. Under Trump's leadership, Republicans lost the House, the Senate, and the White House. I crush Biden by double digits, while Trump barely squeaks by Biden on a good day. https://t.co/dQxvFDtJIU
— Nikki Haley (@NikkiHaley) January 18, 2024
She's not wrong.
Pretty much all of the candidates who he endorsed (I.e. kissed the ring) got their asses kicked in 2022.
Yet somehow this retread loser is supposedly our best chance at beating Biden. Simply incredible. Guess second times a charm!
Republicans have lost the will to win.
So they check the most familiar name on the ballot and get ready to claim how another election was stolen.
"Republicans have lost the will to win."
I don't remember who said it, but the modern GOP is essentially a permanent opposition party. They don't actually want to fix things, they just want to scream about issues and keep people afraid.
You can see the dynamic playing out in real time right now: Repubs say they will only talk Ukraine aid if it's tied to border reforms, so the Dems decide to play ball and are offering some pretty nice concessions on that front. So how do Repubs react to a chance to get something they want done? "Now is not the time" for a deal, Speaker Johnson said on Wednesday, even though it was their idea to bring it up in the first place. You've also got GOP congressmen literally and openly saying they don't want to do anything on immigration right now in case it makes Biden look good.
It's all kayfabe, and it's all in really bad faith. Either that or they really are in Russia's back pocket (tbh some of them absolutely are).
I don't remember who said it, but the modern GOP is essentially a permanent opposition party. They don't actually want to fix things, they just want to scream about issues and keep people afraid.
You can see the dynamic playing out in real time right now: Repubs say they will only talk Ukraine aid if it's tied to border reforms, so the Dems decide to play ball and are offering some pretty nice concessions on that front. So how do Repubs react to a chance to get something they want done? "Now is not the time" for a deal, Speaker Johnson said on Wednesday, even though it was their idea to bring it up in the first place. You've also got GOP congressmen literally and openly saying they don't want to do anything on immigration right now in case it makes Biden look good.
It's all kayfabe, and it's all in really bad faith. Either that or they really are in Russia's back pocket (tbh some of them absolutely are).
A member of Congress would have precious little to gain from being in Russia's pocket. All the money is flowing from the other direction.HuMcK said:
"Republicans have lost the will to win."
I don't remember who said it, but the modern GOP is essentially a permanent opposition party. They don't actually want to fix things, they just want to scream about issues and keep people afraid.
You can see the dynamic playing out in real time right now: Repubs say they will only talk Ukraine aid if it's tied to border reforms, so the Dems decide to play ball and are offering some pretty nice concessions on that front. So how do Repubs react to a chance to get something they want done? "Now is not the time" for a deal, Speaker Johnson said on Wednesday, even though it was their idea to bring it up in the first place. You've also got GOP congressmen literally and openly saying they don't want to do anything on immigration right now in case it makes Biden look good.
It's all kayfabe, and it's all in really bad faith. Either that or they really are in Russia's back pocket (tbh some of them absolutely are).
Money can give someone influence, but not all influence or leverage is derived from money. Russia only needs a few key influential players who can sway the base under their thumb (like say, a Trump or a Tucker Carlson), and the rest will fall in line, reluctantly or not.
It's been obvious since 2016 that Russia is backing a certain faction of the GOP ("this all is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump" Don Jr was told, and "There's two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump" Kevin McCarthy said), and the quid pro quo price for that is letting Russia have Ukraine. Fast forward to the present, and seemingly the only animating principle among the far right in the House right now is crippling Ukraine. They are even turning their noses up to longtime priority policies just to keep stringing things along. If it were a movie or show, the writing would get criticized for being too obvious and on the nose.
It's been obvious since 2016 that Russia is backing a certain faction of the GOP ("this all is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump" Don Jr was told, and "There's two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump" Kevin McCarthy said), and the quid pro quo price for that is letting Russia have Ukraine. Fast forward to the present, and seemingly the only animating principle among the far right in the House right now is crippling Ukraine. They are even turning their noses up to longtime priority policies just to keep stringing things along. If it were a movie or show, the writing would get criticized for being too obvious and on the nose.
Russia Russia RussiaHuMcK said:
Money can give someone influence, but not all influence or leverage is derived from money. Russia only needs a few key influential players who can sway the base under their thumb (like say, a Trump or a Tucker Carlson), and the rest will fall in line, reluctantly or not.
It's been obvious since 2016 that Russia is backing a certain faction of the GOP ("this all is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump" Don Jr was told, and "There's two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump" Kevin McCarthy said), and the quid pro quo price for that is letting Russia have Ukraine. Fast forward to the present, and seemingly the only animating principle among the far right in the House right now is crippling Ukraine. They are even turning their noses up to longtime priority policies just to keep stringing things along. If it were a movie or show, the writing would get criticized for being too obvious and on the nose.
You're a loon humckleberry
It's gonna keep being a thing as long as your party leaders keep sucking Putin's d]ck, which appears to be the case for the forseeable future. Sorry, thems the breaks, and facts don't care about your feelings.
his party leaders? the uniparty swamp has both sides doing what swamp monsters do.. binaries just dont want to see itHuMcK said:
It's gonna keep being a thing as long as your party leaders keep sucking Putin's d]ck, which appears to be the case for the forseeable future. Sorry, thems the breaks, and facts don't care about your feelings.
We crippled Ukraine when we shot down the peace deal at Istanbul. They were already weak; now they're on life support. The only question is how much longer we want them to bleed. Likely to the last Ukrainian, as the heartless saying goes.HuMcK said:
Money can give someone influence, but not all influence or leverage is derived from money. Russia only needs a few key influential players who can sway the base under their thumb (like say, a Trump or a Tucker Carlson), and the rest will fall in line, reluctantly or not.
It's been obvious since 2016 that Russia is backing a certain faction of the GOP ("this all is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump" Don Jr was told, and "There's two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump" Kevin McCarthy said), and the quid pro quo price for that is letting Russia have Ukraine. Fast forward to the present, and seemingly the only animating principle among the far right in the House right now is crippling Ukraine. They are even turning their noses up to longtime priority policies just to keep stringing things along. If it were a movie or show, the writing would get criticized for being too obvious and on the nose.
Here's a fact.HuMcK said:
It's gonna keep being a thing as long as your party leaders keep sucking Putin's d]ck, which appears to be the case for the forseeable future. Sorry, thems the breaks, and facts don't care about your feelings.
You're a loon. Right on the level of the Grand Poohbah of Loondom, Waco47
Sam Lowry said:We crippled Ukraine when we shot down the peace deal at Istanbul. They were already weak; now they're on life support. The only question is how much longer we want them to bleed. Likely to the last Ukrainian, as the heartless saying goes.HuMcK said:
Money can give someone influence, but not all influence or leverage is derived from money. Russia only needs a few key influential players who can sway the base under their thumb (like say, a Trump or a Tucker Carlson), and the rest will fall in line, reluctantly or not.
It's been obvious since 2016 that Russia is backing a certain faction of the GOP ("this all is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump" Don Jr was told, and "There's two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump" Kevin McCarthy said), and the quid pro quo price for that is letting Russia have Ukraine. Fast forward to the present, and seemingly the only animating principle among the far right in the House right now is crippling Ukraine. They are even turning their noses up to longtime priority policies just to keep stringing things along. If it were a movie or show, the writing would get criticized for being too obvious and on the nose.
Wrong on all accounts you Russian shill.
Bear8084 said:Sam Lowry said:We crippled Ukraine when we shot down the peace deal at Istanbul. They were already weak; now they're on life support. The only question is how much longer we want them to bleed. Likely to the last Ukrainian, as the heartless saying goes.HuMcK said:
Money can give someone influence, but not all influence or leverage is derived from money. Russia only needs a few key influential players who can sway the base under their thumb (like say, a Trump or a Tucker Carlson), and the rest will fall in line, reluctantly or not.
It's been obvious since 2016 that Russia is backing a certain faction of the GOP ("this all is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump" Don Jr was told, and "There's two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump" Kevin McCarthy said), and the quid pro quo price for that is letting Russia have Ukraine. Fast forward to the present, and seemingly the only animating principle among the far right in the House right now is crippling Ukraine. They are even turning their noses up to longtime priority policies just to keep stringing things along. If it were a movie or show, the writing would get criticized for being too obvious and on the nose.
Wrong on all accounts you Russian shill.
HuMcK said:
It's gonna keep being a thing as long as your party leaders keep sucking Putin's d]ck, which appears to be the case for the forseeable future. Sorry, thems the breaks, and facts don't care about your feelings.
LOL
Have been a hyper partisan so long you don't know or care what real facts are.
28% of Republicans say they would not vote for Donald Trump if he's a convicted felon.
— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) January 18, 2024
Trump is very likely to be a felon on election day. Take all the polls with a huge grain of salt. pic.twitter.com/NbGEHKNehz