Whiskey Pete said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Whiskey Pete said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Whiskey Pete said:

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J.R. said:

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sombear said:

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I'm well aware that Bibles are sold. . . . I've bought my share. Politicians do not and should not sell self-promoting Bibles for profit. I don't care who the politician is or what party it is. But I am even more troubled by someone doing it who is everything a Christian should not be.

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So, I guess you're not voting for Trump the Bible pusher then?

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now, little Petey..... you really think Fat boy pimping bibles is ok? this is so disgusting even by Fat Orange standards . just amazing

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I couldn't careless about Trump selling bibles.

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You should .

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No I shouldn't.

I care about things that matter. You know, like our unsecured border.

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I suppose there is some logic there. I care about things that REALLY matter. You know securing the border and honesty & integrity

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Something that the two leading candidates don't have, so I pick policy.

Time to be pragmatic, one candidate hawking Bibles pales in comparison to the guy that has made our border nothing more than a turn style our has zero regard for our national security.

But hey, please don't vote for the orange boogey man, I wouldn't want you to compromise your stellar integrity or principles. Meanwhile, I'll vote for the guy that takes border security seriously, even if he makes a few bucks selling a book.

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sombear said:

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Zero doubt in my mind that if Jesus returned today and criticized Trump he would be slammed by Trumpsters as a Swamp created libtard. And probably by Trump as well.

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Two families recently left our church. Longtime members. Great folks, but really turned into full-fledged MAGA - the best and worst of it. I think they will return at some point. But it was simple as this:

Longtime pastor and close friend of both families. Went on missions trips together; worked locally for charities, etc. Pastor is conservative, but rarely talks politics and sermons don't go there at all. I'd bet a good chunk of change he voted for Trump, but he's never talked about it.

One Sunday in January, the sermon was on that . . . ya know . . . ultra-controversial love your neighbor principle. In one of numerous examples, he mentioned both political sides have gone overboard, too much vitriol, etc. Neighbor against neighbor. We can disagree without being disagreeable. He mentioned that the "political leaders" themselves aren't helping much, Repubs and Dems. Said our political leaders sure as heck aren't role models. He returned to that theme a few weeks later.

No mention of Trump (or Biden). No praise of Democrats.

Families asked for a meeting with pastor. Said he was undermining the abortion and other Christian issues. He was engaging in "whataboutism." They didn't appreciate him bringing politics into his sermons, but also said, "if anyhting, we should build Trump up and pray for him."

Pastor was shocked. He didn't back down but emphasized it was just a real life example of an area that our leaders and all of us could do better. Said we should pray for all of our leaders. Families weren't satisfied and left the church.

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Aliceinbubbleland said:

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He reminds me of many kooks. This one would be Elmer Gantry. Why are so many Christians devoted to this fraud?

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Aliceinbubbleland said:

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He reminds me of many kooks. This one would be Elmer Gantry. Why are so many Christians devoted to this fraud?

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because the alternative is worse

Abortion on demand
More socialism
Stacking courts
More wars

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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He reminds me of many kooks. This one would be Elmer Gantry. Why are so many Christians devoted to this fraud?

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because the alternative is worse

Abortion on demand
More socialism
Stacking courts
More wars

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FLBear5630 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Not the Babylon Bee.

Trump's Newest Venture? A $60 Bible.
His Bible sales pitch comes as he appears to be confronting a significant financial squeeze, with his legal fees growing while he fights a number of criminal cases and lawsuits.

Before he turned to politics, former President Donald J. Trump lent his star power and celebrity endorsement to a slew of consumer products steaks, vodka and even for-profit education, to name just a few.
On Tuesday, Mr. Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, added a new item to the list: a $60 Bible.
Days before Easter, Mr. Trump posted a video on his social media platform in which he encouraged his supporters to buy the "God Bless the USA Bible," named after the ballad by the country singer Lee Greenwood, which Mr. Trump plays as he takes the stage at his rallies.
"All Americans need a Bible in their home, and I have many. It's my favorite book," said Mr. Trump, who before entering politics was not overtly religious and who notably stumbled while referencing a book of the Bible during his 2016 campaign. "It's a lot of people's favorite book."
Though Mr. Trump is not selling the Bible, he is getting royalties from purchases, according to a person familiar with the details of the business arrangement.
Priced at $59.99, plus shipping and tax, the "God Bless the USA Bible" includes a King James Bible and a handwritten version of the chorus of Mr. Greenwood's song, and copies of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence and the Pledge of Allegiance.
In his video, Mr. Trump expressed his approval of the book's blend of theology with foundational American political documents, framing that mix as central to the political call that has been his longtime campaign slogan, Make America Great Again.
"Religion and Christianity are the biggest things missing from this country," Mr. Trump said. Later, he added, "We must make America pray again."
As he runs for president this year, Mr. Trump has framed his campaign as a crusade to defend Christian values from the left. He often makes false or misleading claims that Democrats are persecuting Christians. Last month, he told a religious media convention that Democrats wanted to "tear down crosses."
His Bible sales pitch comes as he appears to be confronting a significant financial squeeze. With his legal fees growing while he fights four criminal cases and a number of civil lawsuits, Mr. Trump is also being required to post a $175 million bond while he appeals his New York civil fraud case a hefty amount, though one that is significantly smaller than the $454 million penalty imposed in the case.
According to the Bible's website, Mr. Trump's "name, likeness and image" are being used "under paid license from CIC Ventures LLC."
The Trump campaign did not immediately respond to questions about the business arrangement. But CIC Ventures is also connected to another product Mr. Trump has hawked while campaigning: $399 "Never Surrender" sneakers that he announced at a sneaker convention in Philadelphia last month.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/25/style/succession-ilia-malinin-figure-skating.html

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There is no financial squeeze. He is a billionaire and can pay everything cash. Yet, had to get the bond reduced and is hawking everything from sneakers to bibles. The 2024 Commemorative Juicer is on its way...

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trey3216 said:

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J.R. said:

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Whiskey Pete said:

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sombear said:

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I'm well aware that Bibles are sold. . . . I've bought my share. Politicians do not and should not sell self-promoting Bibles for profit. I don't care who the politician is or what party it is. But I am even more troubled by someone doing it who is everything a Christian should not be.

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So, I guess you're not voting for Trump the Bible pusher then?

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now, little Petey..... you really think Fat boy pimping bibles is ok?

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FLBear5630 said:

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4th and Inches said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Not the Babylon Bee.

Trump's Newest Venture? A $60 Bible.
His Bible sales pitch comes as he appears to be confronting a significant financial squeeze, with his legal fees growing while he fights a number of criminal cases and lawsuits.

Before he turned to politics, former President Donald J. Trump lent his star power and celebrity endorsement to a slew of consumer products steaks, vodka and even for-profit education, to name just a few.
On Tuesday, Mr. Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, added a new item to the list: a $60 Bible.
Days before Easter, Mr. Trump posted a video on his social media platform in which he encouraged his supporters to buy the "God Bless the USA Bible," named after the ballad by the country singer Lee Greenwood, which Mr. Trump plays as he takes the stage at his rallies.
"All Americans need a Bible in their home, and I have many. It's my favorite book," said Mr. Trump, who before entering politics was not overtly religious and who notably stumbled while referencing a book of the Bible during his 2016 campaign. "It's a lot of people's favorite book."
Though Mr. Trump is not selling the Bible, he is getting royalties from purchases, according to a person familiar with the details of the business arrangement.
Priced at $59.99, plus shipping and tax, the "God Bless the USA Bible" includes a King James Bible and a handwritten version of the chorus of Mr. Greenwood's song, and copies of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence and the Pledge of Allegiance.
In his video, Mr. Trump expressed his approval of the book's blend of theology with foundational American political documents, framing that mix as central to the political call that has been his longtime campaign slogan, Make America Great Again.
"Religion and Christianity are the biggest things missing from this country," Mr. Trump said. Later, he added, "We must make America pray again."
As he runs for president this year, Mr. Trump has framed his campaign as a crusade to defend Christian values from the left. He often makes false or misleading claims that Democrats are persecuting Christians. Last month, he told a religious media convention that Democrats wanted to "tear down crosses."
His Bible sales pitch comes as he appears to be confronting a significant financial squeeze. With his legal fees growing while he fights four criminal cases and a number of civil lawsuits, Mr. Trump is also being required to post a $175 million bond while he appeals his New York civil fraud case a hefty amount, though one that is significantly smaller than the $454 million penalty imposed in the case.
According to the Bible's website, Mr. Trump's "name, likeness and image" are being used "under paid license from CIC Ventures LLC."
The Trump campaign did not immediately respond to questions about the business arrangement. But CIC Ventures is also connected to another product Mr. Trump has hawked while campaigning: $399 "Never Surrender" sneakers that he announced at a sneaker convention in Philadelphia last month.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/25/style/succession-ilia-malinin-figure-skating.html

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There is no financial squeeze. He is a billionaire and can pay everything cash. Yet, had to get the bond reduced and is hawking everything from sneakers to bibles. The 2024 Commemorative Juicer is on its way...

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rich people think differently..

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Yeah, this is a good thing, right? Having the President sell ad space on his jacket or have his face on a bible is "high level thinking"? The guy is a con-man and many on here are either infatuated or turning a blind eye.

Just don't tell me Trump is some sort of higher thinking great businessman that the rest of us can't understand. He is very easily understood, just go to the streets of Queens and play find the lady... You will get him very quickly

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FLBear5630 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Not the Babylon Bee.

Trump's Newest Venture? A $60 Bible.
His Bible sales pitch comes as he appears to be confronting a significant financial squeeze, with his legal fees growing while he fights a number of criminal cases and lawsuits.

Before he turned to politics, former President Donald J. Trump lent his star power and celebrity endorsement to a slew of consumer products steaks, vodka and even for-profit education, to name just a few.
On Tuesday, Mr. Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, added a new item to the list: a $60 Bible.
Days before Easter, Mr. Trump posted a video on his social media platform in which he encouraged his supporters to buy the "God Bless the USA Bible," named after the ballad by the country singer Lee Greenwood, which Mr. Trump plays as he takes the stage at his rallies.
"All Americans need a Bible in their home, and I have many. It's my favorite book," said Mr. Trump, who before entering politics was not overtly religious and who notably stumbled while referencing a book of the Bible during his 2016 campaign. "It's a lot of people's favorite book."
Though Mr. Trump is not selling the Bible, he is getting royalties from purchases, according to a person familiar with the details of the business arrangement.
Priced at $59.99, plus shipping and tax, the "God Bless the USA Bible" includes a King James Bible and a handwritten version of the chorus of Mr. Greenwood's song, and copies of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence and the Pledge of Allegiance.
In his video, Mr. Trump expressed his approval of the book's blend of theology with foundational American political documents, framing that mix as central to the political call that has been his longtime campaign slogan, Make America Great Again.
"Religion and Christianity are the biggest things missing from this country," Mr. Trump said. Later, he added, "We must make America pray again."
As he runs for president this year, Mr. Trump has framed his campaign as a crusade to defend Christian values from the left. He often makes false or misleading claims that Democrats are persecuting Christians. Last month, he told a religious media convention that Democrats wanted to "tear down crosses."
His Bible sales pitch comes as he appears to be confronting a significant financial squeeze. With his legal fees growing while he fights four criminal cases and a number of civil lawsuits, Mr. Trump is also being required to post a $175 million bond while he appeals his New York civil fraud case a hefty amount, though one that is significantly smaller than the $454 million penalty imposed in the case.
According to the Bible's website, Mr. Trump's "name, likeness and image" are being used "under paid license from CIC Ventures LLC."
The Trump campaign did not immediately respond to questions about the business arrangement. But CIC Ventures is also connected to another product Mr. Trump has hawked while campaigning: $399 "Never Surrender" sneakers that he announced at a sneaker convention in Philadelphia last month.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/25/style/succession-ilia-malinin-figure-skating.html

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There is no financial squeeze. He is a billionaire and can pay everything cash. Yet, had to get the bond reduced and is hawking everything from sneakers to bibles. The 2024 Commemorative Juicer is on its way...

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Osodecentx said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Not the Babylon Bee.

Trump's Newest Venture? A $60 Bible.
His Bible sales pitch comes as he appears to be confronting a significant financial squeeze, with his legal fees growing while he fights a number of criminal cases and lawsuits.

Before he turned to politics, former President Donald J. Trump lent his star power and celebrity endorsement to a slew of consumer products steaks, vodka and even for-profit education, to name just a few.
On Tuesday, Mr. Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, added a new item to the list: a $60 Bible.
Days before Easter, Mr. Trump posted a video on his social media platform in which he encouraged his supporters to buy the "God Bless the USA Bible," named after the ballad by the country singer Lee Greenwood, which Mr. Trump plays as he takes the stage at his rallies.
"All Americans need a Bible in their home, and I have many. It's my favorite book," said Mr. Trump, who before entering politics was not overtly religious and who notably stumbled while referencing a book of the Bible during his 2016 campaign. "It's a lot of people's favorite book."
Though Mr. Trump is not selling the Bible, he is getting royalties from purchases, according to a person familiar with the details of the business arrangement.
Priced at $59.99, plus shipping and tax, the "God Bless the USA Bible" includes a King James Bible and a handwritten version of the chorus of Mr. Greenwood's song, and copies of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the Declaration of Independence and the Pledge of Allegiance.
In his video, Mr. Trump expressed his approval of the book's blend of theology with foundational American political documents, framing that mix as central to the political call that has been his longtime campaign slogan, Make America Great Again.
"Religion and Christianity are the biggest things missing from this country," Mr. Trump said. Later, he added, "We must make America pray again."
As he runs for president this year, Mr. Trump has framed his campaign as a crusade to defend Christian values from the left. He often makes false or misleading claims that Democrats are persecuting Christians. Last month, he told a religious media convention that Democrats wanted to "tear down crosses."
His Bible sales pitch comes as he appears to be confronting a significant financial squeeze. With his legal fees growing while he fights four criminal cases and a number of civil lawsuits, Mr. Trump is also being required to post a $175 million bond while he appeals his New York civil fraud case a hefty amount, though one that is significantly smaller than the $454 million penalty imposed in the case.
According to the Bible's website, Mr. Trump's "name, likeness and image" are being used "under paid license from CIC Ventures LLC."
The Trump campaign did not immediately respond to questions about the business arrangement. But CIC Ventures is also connected to another product Mr. Trump has hawked while campaigning: $399 "Never Surrender" sneakers that he announced at a sneaker convention in Philadelphia last month.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/25/style/succession-ilia-malinin-figure-skating.html

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There is no financial squeeze. He is a billionaire and can pay everything cash. Yet, had to get the bond reduced and is hawking everything from sneakers to bibles. The 2024 Commemorative Juicer is on its way...

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Trump used campaign money, not his own, for legal expenses & the bond

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Religious-themed designs banned from White House Easter egg art contest https://t.co/VmDytGSjl9 pic.twitter.com/iJq7tyf73n

— New York Post (@nypost) March 30, 2024

Realitybites said:

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. In one of numerous examples, he mentioned both political sides have gone overboard, too much vitriol, etc. Neighbor against neighbor. We can disagree without being disagreeable.

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While there is much room to criticize the GOP, in a world where the democrat party is taking people's sons away and turning them into eunuchs against their parents wishes his response is the weak sauce response of a seat filler pastor. He needs to spend some time reading Jeremiah and Isaiah. The democrat party of the 70s may have been communist, but the one of today is overtly satanic.

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Jack Bauer said:

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Trump Bible.

David had a beautiful slingshot, quite frankly. And he took down "Lying" Goliath who was a total disaster for the Philistines. It was unbelievable. And I actually was the one who threw the rock, people don't know that because of the Fake News!

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fubar said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Trump Bible.

David had a beautiful slingshot, quite frankly. And he took down "Lying" Goliath who was a total disaster for the Philistines. It was unbelievable. And I actually was the one who threw the rock, people don't know that because of the Fake News!

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This is good work. Throw in some stuff about the witch hunt after he and Bathsheba didn't actually do anything, she wasn't his type, he doesn't remember even meeting her at all, and you've pretty much covered Two Samuel.

Come to think of it, you know what I might actually buy? TRUMP'S commentaries on the bible.

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FLBear5630 said:

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fubar said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Trump Bible.

David had a beautiful slingshot, quite frankly. And he took down "Lying" Goliath who was a total disaster for the Philistines. It was unbelievable. And I actually was the one who threw the rock, people don't know that because of the Fake News!

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This is good work. Throw in some stuff about the witch hunt after he and Bathsheba didn't actually do anything, she wasn't his type, he doesn't remember even meeting her at all, and you've pretty much covered Two Samuel.

Come to think of it, you know what I might actually buy? TRUMP'S commentaries on the bible.

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That would mean he would have to read it.

Now, you may get Trump's ghostwritten commentaries on what the Bible SHOULD say and what he really meant when Trump inspired its writing...

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NEW: ‘Devout Catholic’ and president Joe Biden declares that Easter Sunday 2024 is ‘Transgender Day of Visibility.’

“NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR., President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the… pic.twitter.com/Dm55XlbFZA

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) March 30, 2024

fubar said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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fubar said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Trump Bible.

David had a beautiful slingshot, quite frankly. And he took down "Lying" Goliath who was a total disaster for the Philistines. It was unbelievable. And I actually was the one who threw the rock, people don't know that because of the Fake News!

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This is good work. Throw in some stuff about the witch hunt after he and Bathsheba didn't actually do anything, she wasn't his type, he doesn't remember even meeting her at all, and you've pretty much covered Two Samuel.

Come to think of it, you know what I might actually buy? TRUMP'S commentaries on the bible.

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That would mean he would have to read it.

Now, you may get Trump's ghostwritten commentaries on what the Bible SHOULD say and what he really meant when Trump inspired its writing...

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Well, yeah, obviously TRUMP'S commentaries on the bible would have to be ghostwritten, but they'd be a hoot.

What if TRUMP just replaced Leviticus with "The Art of the Deal?" I might not even notice, Leviticus ain't exactly a Tom Clancy novel, and I'd prolly skip that section entirely.

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KaiBear said:

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Jack and DP said:

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NEW: ‘Devout Catholic’ and president Joe Biden declares that Easter Sunday 2024 is ‘Transgender Day of Visibility.’

“NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR., President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the… pic.twitter.com/Dm55XlbFZA

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) March 30, 2024

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An intentional slap in the face to every Christian.

How can anyone vote for this slob ?

Easily the most destructive president in over a century .

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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KaiBear said:

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Jack and DP said:

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NEW: ‘Devout Catholic’ and president Joe Biden declares that Easter Sunday 2024 is ‘Transgender Day of Visibility.’

“NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR., President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the… pic.twitter.com/Dm55XlbFZA

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) March 30, 2024

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An intentional slap in the face to every Christian.

How can anyone vote for this slob ?

Easily the most destructive president in over a century .

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do you honestly think he knew what he was signing when they slapped that paper in front of him?

Mr President, can you sign this so we can order more Neapolitan and mint chocolate chip.

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sombear said:

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sombear said:

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To me, this is the most appalling thing he's ever done, and that's saying something.

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Encouraging Bible sales and Bible reading?

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A politician/non-Christian/false prophet selling $60 Bibles to make a profit and promote himself during a campaign?, Yes, appalling and I'd say even blasphemous. I can picture Jesus up there turning over tables . . . .

Not to mention, even practically speaking, he is turning off far more non-believers than he is attracting to Christianity.

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Redbrickbear said:

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Religious-themed designs banned from White House Easter egg art contest https://t.co/VmDytGSjl9 pic.twitter.com/iJq7tyf73n

— New York Post (@nypost) March 30, 2024

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What's interesting is that when Trump does something goofy like come out with his own Bible he gets (justifiably) attacked relentlessly by the entire Liberal/Left faction of America and about half of the American Right.

But when Biden slaps Christians in the face on any given occasion or issue he is defended by the entire Liberal/Left faction and about half of the Right.


Its a very interesting dynamic….and it replicates constantly

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Wow listen to this pic.twitter.com/jVQrlM5HTd

— Raheem. (@RaheemKassam) March 30, 2024

Johnny Bear said:

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Here's a wild and crazy thought. Maybe - just maybe - Trump has changed. Believe it or not, people can and actually do change from time to time. I'm not claiming he has (only he and God know for sure), but I am saying that it's not the impossibility many apparently assume - largely if not totally based on things that happened well before he ever campaigned as a Presidential candidate.

And again, even if he hasn't (and I repeat only he and God know), he has been and will be far more of a "Christian friendly" POTUS than the alternative - just to say the least.

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