BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
Frank Galvin said:
Mothra said:
Frank Galvin said:
Also, this thread is not big on free speech. What is the difference between the First and Second Amendments?
Big difference between "free speech," as you call it, and the heckler's veto. The latter is what is taking place at Columbia, with pro-Hamas students harassing people for merely being Jewish. Yesterday, they formed a human chain to specifically prevent Jewish students from entering buildings.
Instead of "free speech," it is something more akin to this:
I am certain both types of speech are happening. Anyone preventing access to public buildings is disturbing the peace. Someone who threatens the person or property of another with intent to follow through is making a criminal threat. If someone lays hands on another, it is assault. Arrest and remove them, which it sounds like the school is doing.
Offensive speech like Death to America and war criminal or flag burning is protected. It has to be for the First Amendment to have any meaning.
Saying "death" to a country is not protected free speech. Maybe you should learn what the first amendment is first.
It is a political statement which gets t
he most protection under the First Amendment. On the other hand it is anti-American. The relevant precedent is
Bradenburg v. Ohio where SCOTUS phrased the test this way:
Government cannot censor anti-government speech unless it is "directed to inciting or producing
imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action." College kids chanting is not specifc enough to say there is imminentn lawless action and is not likely to produce that action. It is most certanly free speech protected by the First Amendement just as burning American flags is.
Of course Columbia is not the government and it can do whatever it feels appropriate to student chanters.
