Frank Galvin said:

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About 90% of this thread is a comment on how the protestors demonstrate how crazy liberals are.

Which is really odd in that the protest is aimed at the policy of a liberal president.

And many liberal universities are shutting down the protests.

And conservatives are leading the charge to criminalize hate speech.

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I know and its utterly pathetic.

These people deserve the 3rd world hellscape this country is turning into.

Waco1947 said:

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I believe in protests. They are protected by the Constitution "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
However these protests are not peaceable and disturb the common life of other students.
Besides, the beg the question of whether not the US can stop a war of a sovereign nation. I am certainly in favor of the right of Israel to protect itself but what is happening in Gaza is genocide and breeding more terrorists.
The protests have moved beyond their usefulness and whatever sympathy we had for their cause (to stop the killing of innocent Palestinians ) is waning. The people in charge have gone nuts. The administrators and police are showing great restraint.

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Take note of this, and wake up to reality. This is the end result of liberalism run amok. This is the direction your party is heading.

sombear said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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About 90% of this thread is a comment on how the protestors demonstrate how crazy liberals are.

Which is really odd in that the protest is aimed at the policy of a liberal president.

And many liberal universities are shutting down the protests.

And conservatives are leading the charge to criminalize hate speech.

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There are liberals and there are unhinged, extreme woke leftists. Unfortunately, the latter has become the base of the Dem party.

Most of the truly liberal universities work truly liberal leadership either took far too long or have caved and negotiated ridiculous agreements with the protestors.

Again you're conflating issues on hate speech. I don't know many folks on the right wanting to criminalize hate speech. Kicked out of a university, sure. The criminal behavior are direct threats, etc. but mostly the property and violence related crimes.

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Well, 187 republicams just voted yes to criminalizing hate speech so clearly our representatives are not carrying out the will of the voters but rather the will of their lobbyists. So basically just business as usual.

Frank Galvin said:

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About 90% of this thread is a comment on how the protestors demonstrate how crazy liberals are.

Which is really odd in that the protest is aimed at the policy of a liberal president.

And many liberal universities are shutting down the protests.

And conservatives are leading the charge to criminalize hate speech.

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The protest is aimed more at the policy of the US, which has been the same in regards to Israel since 1948 whether it has been a D or R in the White House and that is that we support Israel. It just happens to be a liberal president in the WH right now but his policy is no different than any other president and it really isn't "his" policy it is just a continuation of the policy that has existed for decades.

The universities are not shutting down the protests.

It isn't hate speech that they want to criminalize but rather enforce the criminal penalty of terroristic speech, threats, or treason.

muddybrazos said:

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sombear said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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About 90% of this thread is a comment on how the protestors demonstrate how crazy liberals are.

Which is really odd in that the protest is aimed at the policy of a liberal president.

And many liberal universities are shutting down the protests.

And conservatives are leading the charge to criminalize hate speech.

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There are liberals and there are unhinged, extreme woke leftists. Unfortunately, the latter has become the base of the Dem party.

Most of the truly liberal universities work truly liberal leadership either took far too long or have caved and negotiated ridiculous agreements with the protestors.

Again you're conflating issues on hate speech. I don't know many folks on the right wanting to criminalize hate speech. Kicked out of a university, sure. The criminal behavior are direct threats, etc. but mostly the property and violence related crimes.

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Well, 187 republicams just voted yes to criminalizing hate speech so clearly our representatives are not carrying out the will of the voters but rather the will of their lobbyists. So basically just business as usual.

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— Dr. Kirmani (@docyumyum) May 2, 2024

muddybrazos said:

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sombear said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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About 90% of this thread is a comment on how the protestors demonstrate how crazy liberals are.

Which is really odd in that the protest is aimed at the policy of a liberal president.

And many liberal universities are shutting down the protests.

And conservatives are leading the charge to criminalize hate speech.

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There are liberals and there are unhinged, extreme woke leftists. Unfortunately, the latter has become the base of the Dem party.

Most of the truly liberal universities work truly liberal leadership either took far too long or have caved and negotiated ridiculous agreements with the protestors.

Again you're conflating issues on hate speech. I don't know many folks on the right wanting to criminalize hate speech. Kicked out of a university, sure. The criminal behavior are direct threats, etc. but mostly the property and violence related crimes.

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Well, 187 republicams just voted yes to criminalizing hate speech so clearly our representatives are not carrying out the will of the voters but rather the will of their lobbyists. So basically just business as usual.

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Twitter isn't truth. It''s not a criminal bill. I don't like the bill, but it applies to Dept of Education.

sombear said:

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muddybrazos said:

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sombear said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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About 90% of this thread is a comment on how the protestors demonstrate how crazy liberals are.

Which is really odd in that the protest is aimed at the policy of a liberal president.

And many liberal universities are shutting down the protests.

And conservatives are leading the charge to criminalize hate speech.

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There are liberals and there are unhinged, extreme woke leftists. Unfortunately, the latter has become the base of the Dem party.

Most of the truly liberal universities work truly liberal leadership either took far too long or have caved and negotiated ridiculous agreements with the protestors.

Again you're conflating issues on hate speech. I don't know many folks on the right wanting to criminalize hate speech. Kicked out of a university, sure. The criminal behavior are direct threats, etc. but mostly the property and violence related crimes.

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Well, 187 republicams just voted yes to criminalizing hate speech so clearly our representatives are not carrying out the will of the voters but rather the will of their lobbyists. So basically just business as usual.

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Twitter isn't truth. It''s not a criminal bill. I don't like the bill, but it applies to Dept of Education.

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So you're ok with special protections for just one group as long as it applies to education or govt? One group that cant be criticized at all? That doesnt seem very American to me. I personally would like to see no anti BDS laws anywhere, no special anti semitism laws and no foreign lobbyists that dont have to register as such.

cowboycwr said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Mike Johnson, Jim Jordan and company now say they’re going to make it their top “all of the House” priority to focus on the critical, existential issue of “Anti-Semitism” on college campuses. Is this really the #1 issue for ordinary Americans? Or just the House GOP? pic.twitter.com/08UXqsMbMn

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 30, 2024

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Of course it is a top priority.

If one group of citizens can be targeted like this with impunity, and
no retribution for blatant antisemitism, then any group of citizens
can be targeted in a similar way.



GOP leadership is weak,

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They have been pretty strong on being against anti-semitism

The question is where were they during the anti-White pogroms during BLM?

Mitt Romney was out there marching in the street with the DC BLM

Has any top GOP leader been out marching in the street with the pro-Palestinian protestors? of course not

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Rarely do I defend BLM for anything, but there were different kinds of BLM marches and protests. Yea, it's become a punch line, but fact is, a majority were peaceful and reasonable. There were, in fact, multiple marches where police forces joined. There were prayer sessions involving all kinds. If any of those would have been near me, I may well have attended. As for those that were violent/radical, there were plenty of conservative politicians and influencers calling it out and saying more should be done.

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Based on the fact that the BLM marches were predicated on the lie that police are hunting down innocent black people NONE of the BLM marches were "reasonable."

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Whether police always do the right thing or not, it is always reasonable to ask them to do the right thing.

The vast majority of BLM protesters were asking that police who kill innocent blacks be held accountable, and that they seek to treat everyone fairly.

It could be argued that in the past decade or 2 police themselves have become much more diverse, better representing the demographics of the U.S., and that for every mistreatment of a black American, there are probably 3 of a white American. However, the centuries before that created a narrative very different, and when such injustice has been perpetrated for so long, it just takes more than 1 or 2 decades of fair policecwork to change the societal narrative.

The peaceful BLM protests were exactly reasonable, and anyone making use of their right to peacefully protest, I applaud, even if I disagree with the cause.

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I'm glad that you also agree that the blm riots were about feelings and narrative rather than facts and reality.

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Centuries of police brutality is a fact. Yes people care. I do think recent police brutality was vastly overstated by mainstream media, but I am glad that people protested this perception. If you thought it was real, you'd have to be a real monster to not support such protests.

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Centuries?????

Police were not even a common thing until very recently (in terms of human history).

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I'm about as pro-cop as anyone, and it drives some of my libertarian and black friends crazy. I moved hard that way after going on some police ride alongs with some black friends and doing more research. We all developed a healthy respect for the jobs cops have to do.

That said, it's foolish to deny the history of law enforcement abuse against blacks. It's not just police of recent history. Think about how the U.S. slave trade itself started and was administered and who was involved. Think about how slavery was enforced and the "justice system" in effect. Think about law enforcement in post slavery, Jim Crow south. Think about law enforcement's role in fighting (literally) the civil rights movement. And even late into the 20th Century, it will take you 2 minutes on google to find rampant systematic racial abuse among certain major police departments.

Again, thankfully, we are far beyond that. And we don't have to beat ourselves up for it. But it's wrong to deny it and wrong to say it's just "emotional" for blacks.

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OK and none of that proves anything about it being centuries of abuse by police. Most of what you listed in your rant had NOTHING to do with police.

And the little you do is within the last 100 years which makes it a century, singular.

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Seriously. You base your argument on the distinction between actual police and law enforcement? I don't think people care the title of the person arresting, incarcerating, harassing, beating, or killing them.

And the slave patrol certainly were police. And actual public police departments started expanding rapidly in the early to mid 19th Century.

And Actual police and police departments frequently committed heinous acts against blacks throughout the 19th and much of the 20th Century, all the way through and even after the civil rights movement.

Once again, from the late 20th Century to present, I'll defend cops and fight the false BLM narrative with the best of them. But I can't deny or dismiss a brutal history.

muddybrazos said:

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sombear said:

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muddybrazos said:

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sombear said:

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Frank Galvin said:

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About 90% of this thread is a comment on how the protestors demonstrate how crazy liberals are.

Which is really odd in that the protest is aimed at the policy of a liberal president.

And many liberal universities are shutting down the protests.

And conservatives are leading the charge to criminalize hate speech.

---

There are liberals and there are unhinged, extreme woke leftists. Unfortunately, the latter has become the base of the Dem party.

Most of the truly liberal universities work truly liberal leadership either took far too long or have caved and negotiated ridiculous agreements with the protestors.

Again you're conflating issues on hate speech. I don't know many folks on the right wanting to criminalize hate speech. Kicked out of a university, sure. The criminal behavior are direct threats, etc. but mostly the property and violence related crimes.

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Well, 187 republicams just voted yes to criminalizing hate speech so clearly our representatives are not carrying out the will of the voters but rather the will of their lobbyists. So basically just business as usual.

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Twitter isn't truth. It''s not a criminal bill. I don't like the bill, but it applies to Dept of Education.

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So you're ok with special protections for just one group as long as it applies to education or govt? One group that cant be criticized at all? That doesnt seem very American to me. I personally would like to see no anti BDS laws anywhere, no special anti semitism laws and no foreign lobbyists that dont have to register as such.

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Did you miss the part where I said I didn't like the bill?

You said it was criminal. It's not.

And the Dept of Ed and many other departments have long applied their rules based on the subject of speech. This is just expanding it to be clear on antisemitism.

sombear said:

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cowboycwr said:

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sombear said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Mike Johnson, Jim Jordan and company now say they’re going to make it their top “all of the House” priority to focus on the critical, existential issue of “Anti-Semitism” on college campuses. Is this really the #1 issue for ordinary Americans? Or just the House GOP? pic.twitter.com/08UXqsMbMn

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 30, 2024

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Of course it is a top priority.

If one group of citizens can be targeted like this with impunity, and
no retribution for blatant antisemitism, then any group of citizens
can be targeted in a similar way.



GOP leadership is weak,

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They have been pretty strong on being against anti-semitism

The question is where were they during the anti-White pogroms during BLM?

Mitt Romney was out there marching in the street with the DC BLM

Has any top GOP leader been out marching in the street with the pro-Palestinian protestors? of course not

---

Rarely do I defend BLM for anything, but there were different kinds of BLM marches and protests. Yea, it's become a punch line, but fact is, a majority were peaceful and reasonable. There were, in fact, multiple marches where police forces joined. There were prayer sessions involving all kinds. If any of those would have been near me, I may well have attended. As for those that were violent/radical, there were plenty of conservative politicians and influencers calling it out and saying more should be done.

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Based on the fact that the BLM marches were predicated on the lie that police are hunting down innocent black people NONE of the BLM marches were "reasonable."

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Whether police always do the right thing or not, it is always reasonable to ask them to do the right thing.

The vast majority of BLM protesters were asking that police who kill innocent blacks be held accountable, and that they seek to treat everyone fairly.

It could be argued that in the past decade or 2 police themselves have become much more diverse, better representing the demographics of the U.S., and that for every mistreatment of a black American, there are probably 3 of a white American. However, the centuries before that created a narrative very different, and when such injustice has been perpetrated for so long, it just takes more than 1 or 2 decades of fair policecwork to change the societal narrative.

The peaceful BLM protests were exactly reasonable, and anyone making use of their right to peacefully protest, I applaud, even if I disagree with the cause.

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I'm glad that you also agree that the blm riots were about feelings and narrative rather than facts and reality.

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Centuries of police brutality is a fact. Yes people care. I do think recent police brutality was vastly overstated by mainstream media, but I am glad that people protested this perception. If you thought it was real, you'd have to be a real monster to not support such protests.

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Centuries?????

Police were not even a common thing until very recently (in terms of human history).

---

I'm about as pro-cop as anyone, and it drives some of my libertarian and black friends crazy. I moved hard that way after going on some police ride alongs with some black friends and doing more research. We all developed a healthy respect for the jobs cops have to do.

That said, it's foolish to deny the history of law enforcement abuse against blacks. It's not just police of recent history. Think about how the U.S. slave trade itself started and was administered and who was involved. Think about how slavery was enforced and the "justice system" in effect. Think about law enforcement in post slavery, Jim Crow south. Think about law enforcement's role in fighting (literally) the civil rights movement. And even late into the 20th Century, it will take you 2 minutes on google to find rampant systematic racial abuse among certain major police departments.

Again, thankfully, we are far beyond that. And we don't have to beat ourselves up for it. But it's wrong to deny it and wrong to say it's just "emotional" for blacks.

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OK and none of that proves anything about it being centuries of abuse by police. Most of what you listed in your rant had NOTHING to do with police.

And the little you do is within the last 100 years which makes it a century, singular.

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And the slave patrol certainly were police. And actual public police departments started expanding rapidly in the early to mid 19th Century.

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Not to get too much into the weeds on this issue but the idea (pushed by the NAACP and other leftist groups) that old style slave patrols became modern policing is false...


[While it is true that slave patrols were a form of American law enforcement that existed alongside other forms of law enforcement, the claim that American policing "traces back" to, "started out" as, or "evolved directly from," slave patrols, or that slave patrols "morphed directly into" policing, is false. This widespread pernicious myth falsely asserts a causal relationship between slave patrols and policing and intimates that modern policing carries on a legacy of gross injustice. There is no evidence for either postulate.]

https://www.nas.org/academic-questions/36/3/did-american-police-originate-from-slave-patrols

[Institutionalized law enforcement in America can be traced as far back as the 1630s with the appointment of sheriffs in counties within the Virginia colony. Colonial sheriffs were modeled after their English equivalents and functioned as the chief law enforcement official in their counties. Around the same time, the cities of Boston and New York appointed constables and watchmen to protect lives and property at night. ]

The first truly modern police department was founded in London in 1829

"The London Metropolitan Police Force is widely regarded as being the first modern police force in the world..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Police

The first one in the USA was in Boston...who copied the Metropolitan Police force

"The first publicly funded, organized police force (in America) with officers on duty full-time was created in Boston in 1838"

I agree with you. It's another false narrative.

The best and brightest. pic.twitter.com/wOV6MWcxif

— J.R. Holmsted (@JHolmsted) May 2, 2024

sombear said:

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cowboycwr said:

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sombear said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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Porteroso said:

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Wangchung said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Mike Johnson, Jim Jordan and company now say they’re going to make it their top “all of the House” priority to focus on the critical, existential issue of “Anti-Semitism” on college campuses. Is this really the #1 issue for ordinary Americans? Or just the House GOP? pic.twitter.com/08UXqsMbMn

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 30, 2024

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Of course it is a top priority.

If one group of citizens can be targeted like this with impunity, and
no retribution for blatant antisemitism, then any group of citizens
can be targeted in a similar way.



GOP leadership is weak,

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They have been pretty strong on being against anti-semitism

The question is where were they during the anti-White pogroms during BLM?

Mitt Romney was out there marching in the street with the DC BLM

Has any top GOP leader been out marching in the street with the pro-Palestinian protestors? of course not

---

Rarely do I defend BLM for anything, but there were different kinds of BLM marches and protests. Yea, it's become a punch line, but fact is, a majority were peaceful and reasonable. There were, in fact, multiple marches where police forces joined. There were prayer sessions involving all kinds. If any of those would have been near me, I may well have attended. As for those that were violent/radical, there were plenty of conservative politicians and influencers calling it out and saying more should be done.

---

Based on the fact that the BLM marches were predicated on the lie that police are hunting down innocent black people NONE of the BLM marches were "reasonable."

---

Whether police always do the right thing or not, it is always reasonable to ask them to do the right thing.

The vast majority of BLM protesters were asking that police who kill innocent blacks be held accountable, and that they seek to treat everyone fairly.

It could be argued that in the past decade or 2 police themselves have become much more diverse, better representing the demographics of the U.S., and that for every mistreatment of a black American, there are probably 3 of a white American. However, the centuries before that created a narrative very different, and when such injustice has been perpetrated for so long, it just takes more than 1 or 2 decades of fair policecwork to change the societal narrative.

The peaceful BLM protests were exactly reasonable, and anyone making use of their right to peacefully protest, I applaud, even if I disagree with the cause.

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I'm glad that you also agree that the blm riots were about feelings and narrative rather than facts and reality.

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Centuries of police brutality is a fact. Yes people care. I do think recent police brutality was vastly overstated by mainstream media, but I am glad that people protested this perception. If you thought it was real, you'd have to be a real monster to not support such protests.

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Centuries?????

Police were not even a common thing until very recently (in terms of human history).

---

I'm about as pro-cop as anyone, and it drives some of my libertarian and black friends crazy. I moved hard that way after going on some police ride alongs with some black friends and doing more research. We all developed a healthy respect for the jobs cops have to do.

That said, it's foolish to deny the history of law enforcement abuse against blacks. It's not just police of recent history. Think about how the U.S. slave trade itself started and was administered and who was involved. Think about how slavery was enforced and the "justice system" in effect. Think about law enforcement in post slavery, Jim Crow south. Think about law enforcement's role in fighting (literally) the civil rights movement. And even late into the 20th Century, it will take you 2 minutes on google to find rampant systematic racial abuse among certain major police departments.

Again, thankfully, we are far beyond that. And we don't have to beat ourselves up for it. But it's wrong to deny it and wrong to say it's just "emotional" for blacks.

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OK and none of that proves anything about it being centuries of abuse by police. Most of what you listed in your rant had NOTHING to do with police.

And the little you do is within the last 100 years which makes it a century, singular.

---

Seriously. You base your argument on the distinction between actual police and law enforcement? I don't think people care the title of the person arresting, incarcerating, harassing, beating, or killing them.

And the slave patrol certainly were police. And actual public police departments started expanding rapidly in the early to mid 19th Century.

And Actual police and police departments frequently committed heinous acts against blacks throughout the 19th and much of the 20th Century, all the way through and even after the civil rights movement.

Once again, from the late 20th Century to present, I'll defend cops and fight the false BLM narrative with the best of them. But I can't deny or dismiss a brutal history.

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No that is not my argument. My argument is on the fact you said CENTURIES. As in over 200 years.

And all the evidence you provide is from the last 160 years. Which is not over two centuries and thus not plural.

And as with the current police it isn't a brutal history by all police. Just certain police officers or departments.

Jack Bauer said:

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SEC SEC SEC!

Free Palestine activists just tried to pull off a protest on the Ole Miss campus. It didn't go according to plan. 🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/Lj3szEyzRe

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) May 2, 2024

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This is what should have happened at UT.

It is just disgusting that the school in Austin is in any way associated with the great state of Texas.

we need a lot more of this!

WATCH

COP SPITS ON PALESTINIAN FLAG

During a pro-Palestine protest at the University of North Carolina (UNC) yesterday, a police officer is seen spitting on a Palestinian flag. pic.twitter.com/eH4WGw7hcE

— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) May 2, 2024

It should be every cop... every American, spitting on this flag of terrorism and evil.

Rutgers has conceded 8/10 of the protestors demands after they forced the university to postpone 28 final exams this morning: https://t.co/hF9UsUAcSn pic.twitter.com/5r5DvqziiI

— Steve McGuire (@sfmcguire79) May 2, 2024

Watch: Police removed the masks from the protesters this morning at UCLA so they can’t hide … from their parents, neighbors, or future employers. The bravado and arrogance are gone, replaced with humiliation and embarrassment. pic.twitter.com/pKaUs87hyk

— Chaskel Bennett (@ChaskelBennett) May 2, 2024

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cowboycwr said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Mike Johnson, Jim Jordan and company now say they’re going to make it their top “all of the House” priority to focus on the critical, existential issue of “Anti-Semitism” on college campuses. Is this really the #1 issue for ordinary Americans? Or just the House GOP? pic.twitter.com/08UXqsMbMn

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 30, 2024

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Of course it is a top priority.

If one group of citizens can be targeted like this with impunity, and
no retribution for blatant antisemitism, then any group of citizens
can be targeted in a similar way.



GOP leadership is weak,

---

They have been pretty strong on being against anti-semitism

The question is where were they during the anti-White pogroms during BLM?

Mitt Romney was out there marching in the street with the DC BLM

Has any top GOP leader been out marching in the street with the pro-Palestinian protestors? of course not

---

Rarely do I defend BLM for anything, but there were different kinds of BLM marches and protests. Yea, it's become a punch line, but fact is, a majority were peaceful and reasonable. There were, in fact, multiple marches where police forces joined. There were prayer sessions involving all kinds. If any of those would have been near me, I may well have attended. As for those that were violent/radical, there were plenty of conservative politicians and influencers calling it out and saying more should be done.

---

Based on the fact that the BLM marches were predicated on the lie that police are hunting down innocent black people NONE of the BLM marches were "reasonable."

---

Whether police always do the right thing or not, it is always reasonable to ask them to do the right thing.

The vast majority of BLM protesters were asking that police who kill innocent blacks be held accountable, and that they seek to treat everyone fairly.

It could be argued that in the past decade or 2 police themselves have become much more diverse, better representing the demographics of the U.S., and that for every mistreatment of a black American, there are probably 3 of a white American. However, the centuries before that created a narrative very different, and when such injustice has been perpetrated for so long, it just takes more than 1 or 2 decades of fair policecwork to change the societal narrative.

The peaceful BLM protests were exactly reasonable, and anyone making use of their right to peacefully protest, I applaud, even if I disagree with the cause.

---

I'm glad that you also agree that the blm riots were about feelings and narrative rather than facts and reality.

---

Centuries of police brutality is a fact. Yes people care. I do think recent police brutality was vastly overstated by mainstream media, but I am glad that people protested this perception. If you thought it was real, you'd have to be a real monster to not support such protests.

---

Centuries?????

Police were not even a common thing until very recently (in terms of human history).

---

I'm about as pro-cop as anyone, and it drives some of my libertarian and black friends crazy. I moved hard that way after going on some police ride alongs with some black friends and doing more research. We all developed a healthy respect for the jobs cops have to do.

That said, it's foolish to deny the history of law enforcement abuse against blacks. It's not just police of recent history. Think about how the U.S. slave trade itself started and was administered and who was involved. Think about how slavery was enforced and the "justice system" in effect. Think about law enforcement in post slavery, Jim Crow south. Think about law enforcement's role in fighting (literally) the civil rights movement. And even late into the 20th Century, it will take you 2 minutes on google to find rampant systematic racial abuse among certain major police departments.

Again, thankfully, we are far beyond that. And we don't have to beat ourselves up for it. But it's wrong to deny it and wrong to say it's just "emotional" for blacks.

---

OK and none of that proves anything about it being centuries of abuse by police. Most of what you listed in your rant had NOTHING to do with police.

And the little you do is within the last 100 years which makes it a century, singular.

---

Seriously. You base your argument on the distinction between actual police and law enforcement? I don't think people care the title of the person arresting, incarcerating, harassing, beating, or killing them.

And the slave patrol certainly were police. And actual public police departments started expanding rapidly in the early to mid 19th Century.

And Actual police and police departments frequently committed heinous acts against blacks throughout the 19th and much of the 20th Century, all the way through and even after the civil rights movement.

Once again, from the late 20th Century to present, I'll defend cops and fight the false BLM narrative with the best of them. But I can't deny or dismiss a brutal history.

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No that is not my argument. My argument is on the fact you said CENTURIES. As in over 200 years.

And all the evidence you provide is from the last 160 years. Which is not over two centuries and thus not plural.

And as with the current police it isn't a brutal history by all police. Just certain police officers or departments.

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Then you've changed your argument, because you specifically said "NOTHING to do with police," and even on your strange centuries argument, you said in your prior post I was referring mostly to things "in the last 100 years."

Regardless, it is irrelevant. The Slave Patrol started early 1700s.

They gain entry at 6:25 mark

#NEW New York City Police has released body-worn camera footage of NYPD ESU breaching into Columbia University Hamilton Hall during the raid. pic.twitter.com/ukMTCdOYNY

— Oliya Scootercaster 🛴 (@ScooterCasterNY) May 2, 2024

Will never allow my child to go one of these liberal universities. Politics aside, there's too many distractions for normal students. How are you supposed to focus on exams with all that bull crap going on? They do this every couple years whether it's BLM, abortion, and now Gaza

“Violent protest is not protected; peaceful protest is. ... Vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows, shutting down campuses, forcing the cancellation of classes ... none of this is peaceful protest.”

— President Biden condemns many campus demonstrations. pic.twitter.com/AE7IjPezB4

— The Recount (@therecount) May 2, 2024

The fact there is disagreement about this shows how stupidly tribal so much of 'Murica has become ...

For lack of a better word,
- One "side" has been consistent in condemning violent, property-destroying riots
- The other "side" yesterday was calling for fascist-style censorship, authoritarian-style "disinformation bureaus," and cancelling people for "misgendering" someone

We're a society of idiots.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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One "side" has been consistent in condemning violent, property-destroying riots

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LOL

boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING: A student at the University of Michigan has simply had enough and tears down one of the posters near the UM Gaza Solidarity Encampment.

Now, I don't endorse tearing down the posters of others, but we have no idea what exactly he took down or what it said. I don't want… pic.twitter.com/PkdqCiuhCr

— Stu (@thestustustudio) May 2, 2024

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That was freaking awesome