Biden Regime Idiocracy Summed up in New Tariffs

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9:07p, 5/14/24
Biden, who campaigned against Trump's tariffs, launched draconian tariffs against Chinese imports including Coal-powered Cars.

Washington CNN President Joe Biden is increasing tariffs on $18 billion in Chinese imports across a handful of sectors deemed strategic to national security an attempt to cripple Beijing's development of critical technologies and instead prioritize US production.
The increases will apply to imported steel and aluminum, legacy semiconductors, electric vehicles, battery components, critical minerals, solar cells, cranes and medical products. The new tariff rates which range from 100% on electric vehicles, to 50% for solar components, to 25% for all other sectors will take place over the next two years.
"China's using the same playbook it has before to power its own growth at the expense of others," said Lael Brainard, director of the White House National Economic Council. "China's simply too big to play by its own rules."

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Gives truth to the lie that it was ever about global cooling and promoting coal-powered cars. Amazing this idiot wants to mandate U.S. automakers move to coal-powered cars while preventing the adoption of less expensive coal-powered cards.

Regressives are idiots and hypocrites.
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9:17p, 5/14/24
A tariff is paid by the importer of record (usually American companies). So China Joe just increased the price of solar panels and medical supplies by 50 percent. The tariffs will just be passed on to the American consumer. Sounds like Bidenflation 2.0 to me.

That Joe Biden is one brilliant fella.
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In reply to RD2WINAGNBEAR86 • 9:30p, 5/14/24
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
A tariff is paid by the importer of record (usually American companies). So China Joe just increased the price of solar panels and medical supplies by 50 percent. The tariffs will just be passed on to the American consumer. Sounds like Bidenflation 2.0 to me.

That Joe Biden is one brilliant fella.
I'm not sure if I should point out that that isn't how markets work or that isn't how math works
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9:41p, 5/14/24
I'm old enough to remember when democrats said tariffs don't work and Trump didn't understand economics or trade...
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?
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In reply to Wangchung • 12:18a, 5/15/24
Wangchung said:
I'm old enough to remember when democrats said tariffs don't work and Trump didn't understand economics or trade...


Democrats generally are stupid and lack principles.
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In reply to Harrison Bergeron • 5:27a, 5/15/24
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Gives truth to the lie that it was ever about global cooling and promoting coal-powered cars. Amazing this idiot wants to mandate U.S. automakers move to coal-powered cars while preventing the adoption of less expensive coal-powered cards.

Regressives are idiots and hypocrites.


They never intended for the masses to drive Teslas, or Chinese Teslas. Their intent is that the masses are locked into their districts in fifteen minute cities, walking, bicycling, or taking a bus.

That having been said, I am in favor of Tariffs used in stead of income and sales taxes.
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In reply to ron.reagan • 9:27a, 5/15/24
ron.reagan said:
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
A tariff is paid by the importer of record (usually American companies). So China Joe just increased the price of solar panels and medical supplies by 50 percent. The tariffs will just be passed on to the American consumer. Sounds like Bidenflation 2.0 to me.

That Joe Biden is one brilliant fella.
I'm not sure if I should point out that that isn't how markets work or that isn't how math works


Great post, Ronnie. So you believe it is China that pays the tariffs? Please tell us more, ole wise one!
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9:52a, 5/15/24
I'm just waiting for the TDSers that were butthurt a few weeks ago about Trump's tariffs to condemn this moron.
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In reply to RD2WINAGNBEAR86 • 1:28p, 5/15/24
The purpose of tariffs isn't to get China to pay tariffs.

The purpose of tariffs is to discourage goods from nations with slave labor wages and living conditions from destroying domestic production and lowering the standard of living of first world nations. We don't need tariffs on products from Canada, Australia, and the EU for example.

The average Chinese salary is $13,000 USD. The average American salary is $67,000 USD per year. So a 450% or so tariff on all Chinese exports to the US is justifiable. "I sensed something...it was as if millions of Goldman Sachs keyboard jockeys cried out in terror at the loss of their six figure bonus and were suddenly silent."

This prevents the "water will find its own level" effect on American society as it trades with a slave labor society.

Maybe then the US Army will march in boots made in North Carolina by Americans instead of ones made by Xi's 4th cousin, 45 times removed. That's going to be important for all the wars you all want to start.
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In reply to Harrison Bergeron • 1:33p, 5/15/24
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I'm just waiting for the TDSers that were butthurt a few weeks ago about Trump's tariffs to condemn this moron.


Both are idiots

This, like Trumps tariffs, are being levied to support the bungling american union driven carmakers. Instead of letting Americans choose which efficient cheap cars to buy, Americans are forced to buy inferior more expensive union manufactured vehicles. Prop up the unions.
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5:48p, 5/15/24
Tarriffs are generally never a good idea. Tariffs impact the consumer.
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In reply to Limited IQ Redneck in PU • 5:56p, 5/15/24
Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
I'm just waiting for the TDSers that were butthurt a few weeks ago about Trump's tariffs to condemn this moron.


Both are idiots

This, like Trumps tariffs, are being levied to support the bungling american union driven carmakers. Instead of letting Americans choose which efficient cheap cars to buy, Americans are forced to buy inferior more expensive union manufactured vehicles. Prop up the unions.
I would disagree to a point. Everyone has the free will to buy what ever car they want, be it a Tesla, Rivian, Ford, GMC, Lexus ect. EV or gasoline. There are options out there. I quite enjoy my little Jap Subaru!
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6:36p, 5/15/24
And I like my third Miata X5..

Tariffs make imports cost more. This protects the bloated union products at the expense of American consumers.
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7:34p, 5/15/24
As I feel like I state her frequently (not that anyone cares) ... I feel like there are two issues ... the issue itself and the associated hypocrisy and irony.

Two things I find funny:
1. Democrats are the historic party of tariffs and protecting the working class; the moment Trump launched tariffs suddenly "Tariffs bad."

2. Just funny how crazy ass China Joe wants to force everyone into coal-powered cars but then makes the price of coal-powered cars increase.
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In reply to RD2WINAGNBEAR86 • 10:44p, 5/15/24
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
ron.reagan said:
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
A tariff is paid by the importer of record (usually American companies). So China Joe just increased the price of solar panels and medical supplies by 50 percent. The tariffs will just be passed on to the American consumer. Sounds like Bidenflation 2.0 to me.

That Joe Biden is one brilliant fella.
I'm not sure if I should point out that that isn't how markets work or that isn't how math works


Great post, Ronnie. So you believe it is China that pays the tariffs? Please tell us more, ole wise one!
If there was a 50% tariff on butter would cookies go up 50%? Would this encourage other countries and domestic to jump in and undercut? Would this eventually lead to extremely cheap butter and China wishing they had more toast factories? Nothing in certain and with a ton of variables and a cascading effect on supply chain I'm going to assume your 50% was based on ignorance and not thorough research session.
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In reply to ron.reagan • 11:05p, 5/15/24
ron.reagan said:
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
ron.reagan said:
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
A tariff is paid by the importer of record (usually American companies). So China Joe just increased the price of solar panels and medical supplies by 50 percent. The tariffs will just be passed on to the American consumer. Sounds like Bidenflation 2.0 to me.

That Joe Biden is one brilliant fella.
I'm not sure if I should point out that that isn't how markets work or that isn't how math works


Great post, Ronnie. So you believe it is China that pays the tariffs? Please tell us more, ole wise one!
If there was a 50% tariff on butter would cookies go up 50%? Would this encourage other countries and domestic to jump in and undercut? Would this eventually lead to extremely cheap butter and China wishing they had more toast factories? Nothing in certain and with a ton of variables and a cascading effect on supply chain I'm going to assume your 50% was based on ignorance and not thorough research session.
Not real sure what to think about your word salad analysis but I will give you a C+ for effort. Butter is just one of many inputs that go into making cookies. Of course the cookies wouldn't go up 50 percent. Solar panels and some steel product lines don't have any domestic producers currently in the United States. These products will more than likely increase close to the full amount because there are no domestic alternatives. American companies have no choice but to pay the tariffs.

No reason to be so condescending Ronnie. It is really not necessary. Have a good evening.
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11:11p, 5/15/24
So why would the rhgard in the White House exponentially increase the cost of coal-powered cars if the moron actually believed in global cooling?!?
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So why would the rhgard in the White House exponentially increase the cost of coal-powered cars if the moron actually believed in global cooling?!?
Because coal is not considered "clean energy". The Biden Administration wants you to buy electric cars. Never mind that much of the electricity for electric cars is produced from coal plants.

Wind, solar, and unicorn farts!
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In reply to RD2WINAGNBEAR86 • 11:18p, 5/15/24
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
So why would the rhgard in the White House exponentially increase the cost of coal-powered cars if the moron actually believed in global cooling?!?
Because coal is not considered "clean energy". The Biden Administration wants you to buy electric cars.

Wind, solar, and unicorn farts!
What do you think provides the power for so-called electric cars?

HINT: coal.
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In reply to Harrison Bergeron • 11:20p, 5/15/24
Harrison Bergeron said:
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
So why would the rhgard in the White House exponentially increase the cost of coal-powered cars if the moron actually believed in global cooling?!?
Because coal is not considered "clean energy". The Biden Administration wants you to buy electric cars.

Wind, solar, and unicorn farts!
What do you think provides the power for so-called electric cars?

HINT: coal.
I agree with you!!! Downright silly! Another brilliant move by the Biden Administration Clown Show.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
I'm just waiting for the TDSers that were butthurt a few weeks ago about Trump's tariffs to condemn this moron.


Both are idiots

This, like Trumps tariffs, are being levied to support the bungling american union driven carmakers. Instead of letting Americans choose which efficient cheap cars to buy, Americans are forced to buy inferior more expensive union manufactured vehicles. Prop up the unions.
I would disagree to a point. Everyone has the free will to buy what ever car they want, be it a Tesla, Rivian, Ford, GMC, Lexus ect. EV or gasoline. There are options out there. I quite enjoy my little Jap Subaru!
I wasnt aware that you were a lesbian but it makes sense now.
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In reply to muddybrazos • 10:31a, 5/16/24
muddybrazos said:
J.R. said:
Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
I'm just waiting for the TDSers that were butthurt a few weeks ago about Trump's tariffs to condemn this moron.


Both are idiots

This, like Trumps tariffs, are being levied to support the bungling american union driven carmakers. Instead of letting Americans choose which efficient cheap cars to buy, Americans are forced to buy inferior more expensive union manufactured vehicles. Prop up the unions.
I would disagree to a point. Everyone has the free will to buy what ever car they want, be it a Tesla, Rivian, Ford, GMC, Lexus ect. EV or gasoline. There are options out there. I quite enjoy my little Jap Subaru!
I wasnt aware that you were a lesbian but it makes sense now.
I thought for sure J.R. would be a Prius guy!
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

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In reply to muddybrazos • 10:47a, 5/16/24
muddybrazos said:
J.R. said:
Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
I'm just waiting for the TDSers that were butthurt a few weeks ago about Trump's tariffs to condemn this moron.


Both are idiots

This, like Trumps tariffs, are being levied to support the bungling american union driven carmakers. Instead of letting Americans choose which efficient cheap cars to buy, Americans are forced to buy inferior more expensive union manufactured vehicles. Prop up the unions.
I would disagree to a point. Everyone has the free will to buy what ever car they want, be it a Tesla, Rivian, Ford, GMC, Lexus ect. EV or gasoline. There are options out there. I quite enjoy my little Jap Subaru!
I wasnt aware that you were a lesbian but it makes sense now.
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12:19p, 5/16/24
I thought China also manipulated their currency to make their exports cheaper here.

I think tariffs applied to the worst offenders (slave labor, technology stealing, currency manipulator, i.e China) is not a bad idea. It might be the only way to fight a partner who is not playing fair. Another thing to consider is China seems to have imperialistic impulses. Knock them back and cheap industry will blossom in India or vietnam or somewhere. We can get our cheap goods from somewhere else. I'm glad someone in the Biden administration has some sense. Maybe they visited Peter Navarro whom they put in prison to get his ideas.
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I think I should be able to buy any product from another country without having to pay a tariff to support crooked union bosses and over paid union workers.
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In reply to Limited IQ Redneck in PU • 1:33p, 5/16/24
Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
I think I should be able to buy any product from another country without having to pay a tariff to support crooked union bosses and over paid union workers.
I think this is absolutely a fair viewpoint. Its a complicated topic.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
I think I should be able to buy any product from another country without having to pay a tariff to support crooked union bosses and over paid union workers.
If we have a free trade policy toward others, but they don't have a free trade policy towards us...that's a problem. That's also the reality with China.

Trump's minor trade war with China was a balancing act to make my first point more bilateral/equal.

Biden/Dems, who criticized Trump are now engaging in the same behavior, the difference though is that Biden's tariff is defanged: it has no real effect and is for appearances to attempt to make Bidenomics look better because Trump's economic policies are far superior.
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10:45p, 5/16/24
Are you zealots going to support these tariffs like you supported Trump's trade war? If Trump had done this, many conservatives would love it. Don't pretend Dems are the only hypocrites.

Good move on Biden's part. Take away a Trump talking point. Biden taking a few pages from Trump's book is funny on its own, but I think it could actually work.
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In reply to Porteroso • 10:50p, 5/16/24
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Biden taking a few pages from Trump's book is funny on its own, but I think it could actually work.
Hopefully Dementia Joe can tape those pages back into Trump's Southern Border Immigration Policy playbook. I think it could actually work.
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6:19a, 5/17/24
Always wondered how Subaru became known as the LGBT car. Turns out they ran ad campaigns way back in the 90s. They were Bud Light before Budweiser.
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In reply to Doc Holliday • 9:23a, 5/17/24
Doc Holliday said:
Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
I think I should be able to buy any product from another country without having to pay a tariff to support crooked union bosses and over paid union workers.
If we have a free trade policy toward others, but they don't have a free trade policy towards us...that's a problem. That's also the reality with China.

Trump's minor trade war with China was a balancing act to make my first point more bilateral/equal.

Biden/Dems, who criticized Trump are now engaging in the same behavior, the difference though is that Biden's tariff is defanged: it has no real effect and is for appearances to attempt to make Bidenomics look better because Trump's economic policies are far superior.
He also put a 25% on steel.

The USW is the biggest industrial union in America. The tariffs props them up and penalizes the rest of Americans.

The UAW, another huge union, profits from the tariffs that allow them to offer crappy cars to Americans and takes away the chance to buy a foreign car for a cheaper price.

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In reply to muddybrazos • 9:42a, 5/17/24
muddybrazos said:
J.R. said:
Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
I'm just waiting for the TDSers that were butthurt a few weeks ago about Trump's tariffs to condemn this moron.


Both are idiots

This, like Trumps tariffs, are being levied to support the bungling american union driven carmakers. Instead of letting Americans choose which efficient cheap cars to buy, Americans are forced to buy inferior more expensive union manufactured vehicles. Prop up the unions.
I would disagree to a point. Everyone has the free will to buy what ever car they want, be it a Tesla, Rivian, Ford, GMC, Lexus ect. EV or gasoline. There are options out there. I quite enjoy my little Jap Subaru!
I wasnt aware that you were a lesbian but it makes sense now.
definitely a lesbian car as my daughter calls it and won't ride in it! Me loves it. I live where the city is very dense in park in a garage and my old fancy car got beat to hell. Sub lets me move around better and paring is easier.
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In reply to Porteroso • 9:50a, 5/17/24
Porteroso said:
Are you zealots going to support these tariffs like you supported Trump's trade war? If Trump had done this, many conservatives would love it. Don't pretend Dems are the only hypocrites.

Good move on Biden's part. Take away a Trump talking point. Biden taking a few pages from Trump's book is funny on its own, but I think it could actually work.
I support the tariffs.

I also support the crow that Biden is forced to eat regarding the tariffs.
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In reply to Porteroso • 10:12a, 5/17/24
Porteroso said:
Are you zealots going to support these tariffs like you supported Trump's trade war? If Trump had done this, many conservatives would love it. Don't pretend Dems are the only hypocrites.

Good move on Biden's part. Take away a Trump talking point. Biden taking a few pages from Trump's book is funny on its own, but I think it could actually work.
Biden's tariff has no real effect unlike Trump's.
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