And yet KS is considered the wisest among us. He lived a long life and did a lot for his people .
Thank you for your post. It was well written.

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And yet KS is considered the wisest among us. He lived a long life and did a lot for his people .
Thank you for your post. It was well written.

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Yes, much like his dad, David, who was described as a man after God's own heart.

Taking Bathsheba and arranging for her husband's death wasn't the part that made him godly.

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The Bible has so many contradictions. God blessed KS .

BTW, I am way under KS's numbers.

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You say your body count is much less than KS like it's a stat line to be judged as good and bad. It's nothing more than futility.

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Try to keep in mind that Limited has always attempted to impress others ( and certainly himself ) with his supposed 'body count '. Even now while in his 60's.

That said ' body count ' consists primarily of poor 3rd world girls who can be acquired for fist full of 20's is irrelevant.

To each his own. Have fun in Cambodia fella.

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Marriage is not about utilitarian happiness. It is about sacrifice.

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It's remarkable how so many people who claim to follow a faith founded by a guy who got crucified don't get the sacrifice bit as it applies to their own lives, even after that aforementioned guy said "If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever would save his life[a] will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul?"

There is no Christianity without the personal practice of asceticism.

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So king solomon was a tare?

The Bible has so many contradictions. God blessed KS . I have a hard enough time following my interpretation. I can't imagine finding time to judge others.

BTW, I am way under KS's numbers.

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King Solomon is far from the only person whom God blessed and who walked away.

Adam, Judas, and a well known preacher a week these days it seems. None of that constitutes a contradiction.

That's not what I said. Not even what I was implying.

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I look at it like this; it's none of my business but I would prefer to be around friends who are really happy with their marriage than not, however that works for them.

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Even if there actions are leading them to hell?

Marriage is not about utilitarian happiness. It is about sacrifice.

Would you agree that a person having sex outside their marriage is adultery? Do you believe that adultery is a sin?

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I don't care at all if they go to hell and I'm going to guess 99% of lifestyle folks also don't care. Perhaps not shocking that not everyone is a Christian.

Again, if you're looking for Judeo-Christian justification for marriage as anything other than 1 man and 1 woman you're unlikely to find it.

It's no more or less a sin than any other sin.

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I don't think 1947 agrees

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Hell begs the question. I don't believe in hell but I do believe in moral living and that God's grace does not release from the consequences of immoral living

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I look at it like this; it's none of my business but I would prefer to be around friends who are really happy with their marriage than not, however that works for them.

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Even if there actions are leading them to hell?

Marriage is not about utilitarian happiness. It is about sacrifice.

Would you agree that a person having sex outside their marriage is adultery? Do you believe that adultery is a sin?

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I don't care at all if they go to hell and I'm going to guess 99% of lifestyle folks also don't care. Perhaps not shocking that not everyone is a Christian.

Again, if you're looking for Judeo-Christian justification for marriage as anything other than 1 man and 1 woman you're unlikely to find it.

It's no more or less a sin than any other sin.

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I don't think 1947 agrees

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I don't believe in hell

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All part of your pick and choose 'theology'.

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nein51 said:

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I look at it like this; it's none of my business but I would prefer to be around friends who are really happy with their marriage than not, however that works for them.

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Even if there actions are leading them to hell?

Marriage is not about utilitarian happiness. It is about sacrifice.

Would you agree that a person having sex outside their marriage is adultery? Do you believe that adultery is a sin?

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I don't care at all if they go to hell and I'm going to guess 99% of lifestyle folks also don't care. Perhaps not shocking that not everyone is a Christian.

Again, if you're looking for Judeo-Christian justification for marriage as anything other than 1 man and 1 woman you're unlikely to find it.

It's no more or less a sin than any other sin.

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I don't think 1947 agrees

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I don't believe in hell

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All part of your pick and choose 'theology'.

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hell is in column 2, next to the fried rice.

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The Bible has so many contradictions. God blessed KS .

BTW, I am way under KS's numbers.

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You say your body count is much less than KS like it's a stat line to be judged as good and bad. It's nothing more than futility.

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Try to keep in mind that Limited has always attempted to impress others ( and certainly himself ) with his supposed 'body count '. Even now while in his 60's.

That said ' body count ' consists primarily of poor 3rd world girls who can be acquired for fist full of 20's is irrelevant.

To each his own. Have fun in Cambodia fella.


Not really accurate. I retired a 2nd time and live and work around Waco. I pay one friend's daughters tuition for private school in Thailand. Not my child and haven't seen them in years but it's her ticket out of poverty.

I also help a little boy in mexici. Not my child but ibut wish it was. I see him and his mother two or three times a year.

I do date women in foriegn countries when I travel. I date local women when I am in Waco.

My life is very different from yours. My kids and gks are healthy and thriving. One grandson will travel with me next year. I am not rich but I get by.

Whatever happened to thst Canadian guy I used to talk to? For an aggie he was a nice guy. I kmow he isn't one to change names like some posters here.

Looking for a condo to buy next year here in Hua Hin. Life is good

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I was hoping this would be a good discussion about open marriage (which is marriage). Clearly many of you have to mature to this discussion.

Let me see if I can help. A few things. I am black. Outside of my wife, I only date migrant women which my wife isn't.

Once I explained that the migrant women were taking black jobs(doing me) she accepted it and blamed Biden.

Once you've had the joy of being called "Papi" in the middle of the throws? You'll understand.

My point is, you have to get your wife on board with the proper explanation. "I'm not cheating. She's Asian and you're not." Sell it!

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What do you want to discuss? We have many, many swinger friends. 99% of them you would never know unless you asked them and I would place money that almost all of their relationships are healthier than average. Some of them sit in the same churches you do. Some of them teach at some of those churches.

The overwhelming majority are normal people with abnormal sex lives and relationships. Some are freaks but that's no different than any other type of relationship/interaction.

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You're absolutely correct. I know a couple who are swingers, and also have an open relationship. They've been married for years, and both say their marriage is healthy and they are deeply in love and committed to each other. The divorce rate in that group is no higher than that in the Christian community. It may even be less. I can't tell you how many married men I've known who cheat on their wives and are leaders in their church. What works for some doesn't for others.

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KaiBear said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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The Bible has so many contradictions. God blessed KS .

BTW, I am way under KS's numbers.

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You say your body count is much less than KS like it's a stat line to be judged as good and bad. It's nothing more than futility.

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Try to keep in mind that Limited has always attempted to impress others ( and certainly himself ) with his supposed 'body count '. Even now while in his 60's.

That said ' body count ' consists primarily of poor 3rd world girls who can be acquired for fist full of 20's is irrelevant.

To each his own. Have fun in Cambodia fella.


Not really accurate. I retired a 2nd time and live and work around Waco. I pay one friend's daughters tuition for private school in Thailand. Not my child and haven't seen them in years but it's her ticket out of poverty.

I also help a little boy in mexici. Not my child but ibut wish it was. I see him and his mother two or three times a year.

I do date women in foriegn countries when I travel. I date local women when I am in Waco.

My life is very different from yours. My kids and gks are healthy and thriving. One grandson will travel with me next year. I am not rich but I get by.

Whatever happened to thst Canadian guy I used to talk to? For an aggie he was a nice guy. I kmow he isn't one to change names like some posters here.

Looking for a condo to buy next year here in Hua Hin. Life is good

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You post various versions of your autobiography frequently.

Who exactly are you trying to convince ……yourself or others ?

I don't chase anyone around with a fistfull of 20's. My autobiography hasn't changed. I am the same as I ever was. I have worked in waco for a year and will work one more. I don't understand how someone that has been here for such a short pd of time can make claims. But you be you..

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I look at it like this; it's none of my business but I would prefer to be around friends who are really happy with their marriage than not, however that works for them.

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Even if there actions are leading them to hell?

Marriage is not about utilitarian happiness. It is about sacrifice.

Would you agree that a person having sex outside their marriage is adultery? Do you believe that adultery is a sin?

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I don't care at all if they go to hell and I'm going to guess 99% of lifestyle folks also don't care. Perhaps not shocking that not everyone is a Christian.

Again, if you're looking for Judeo-Christian justification for marriage as anything other than 1 man and 1 woman you're unlikely to find it.

It's no more or less a sin than any other sin.

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I don't think 1947 agrees

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I don't believe in hell

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All part of your pick and choose 'theology'.

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hell is in column 2, next to the fried rice.

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Hell is clearly an ancient myth from not only Hebrew but other religious traditions.

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Christian Marriage is a committed relationship between one man and one woman.

Other arrangements may work for people, but it's not Christian Marriage.

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Actually, that's not just a Christian marriage. It's marriage as a societal construct throughout human history. The notion that marriage is lifelong bond between man and woman predates 3500 years of Judaeo-Christian history.

It is the original sacrament.

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It's simply a societal construct that has varied with different cultures throughout history.

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Christian Marriage is a committed relationship between one man and one woman.

Other arrangements may work for people, but it's not Christian Marriage.

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Actually, that's not just a Christian marriage. It's marriage as a societal construct throughout human history. The notion that marriage is lifelong bond between man and woman predates 3500 years of Judaeo-Christian history.

It is the original sacrament.

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It's simply a societal construct that has varied with different cultures throughout history.

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Just look at the various versions/types of marriage put forth in the Bible.

Now, dudes marrying dudes, we might be plowing new ground (no pun intended) on that one.

Marriage has always been between man and woman. In NO society in history has it ever been same-sex.

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I don't chase anyone around with a fistfull of 20's. My autobiography hasn't changed. I am the same as I ever was. I have worked in waco for a year and will work one more. I don't understand how someone that has been here for such a short pd of time can make claims. But you be you..

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Even your 60's it remains vitally important for you to repeatedly allude to your 'body count' or some other pre teen innuendo. Usually followed with your autobiography and a final disclaimer on what a great life you have overseas.

It's become a bizarre ritual.

Play safe !

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Marriage has always been between man and woman. In NO society in history has it ever been same-sex.

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I guess you mean no society has allowed for same sex marriage. Obviously, that has changed now.

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Marriage has always been between man and woman. In NO society in history has it ever been same-sex.

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I guess you mean no society has allowed for same sex marriage. Obviously, that has changed now.

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Sadly yes. The SC has completed changed the definition of marriage that existed for more than 4000 years across all cultures.

Maybe it can be reversed one day.

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nein51 said:

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nein51 said:

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I look at it like this; it's none of my business but I would prefer to be around friends who are really happy with their marriage than not, however that works for them.

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Even if there actions are leading them to hell?

Marriage is not about utilitarian happiness. It is about sacrifice.

Would you agree that a person having sex outside their marriage is adultery? Do you believe that adultery is a sin?

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I don't care at all if they go to hell and I'm going to guess 99% of lifestyle folks also don't care. Perhaps not shocking that not everyone is a Christian.

Again, if you're looking for Judeo-Christian justification for marriage as anything other than 1 man and 1 woman you're unlikely to find it.

It's no more or less a sin than any other sin.

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I don't think 1947 agrees

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I don't believe in hell

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All part of your pick and choose 'theology'.

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hell is in column 2, next to the fried rice.

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Hell is clearly an ancient myth from not only Hebrew but other religious traditions.

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a you'd better pray you're right but then, who would you pray to?

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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TexasScientist said:

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KaiBear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ScottS said:

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nein51 said:

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Coke Bear said:

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nein51 said:

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I look at it like this; it's none of my business but I would prefer to be around friends who are really happy with their marriage than not, however that works for them.

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Even if there actions are leading them to hell?

Marriage is not about utilitarian happiness. It is about sacrifice.

Would you agree that a person having sex outside their marriage is adultery? Do you believe that adultery is a sin?

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I don't care at all if they go to hell and I'm going to guess 99% of lifestyle folks also don't care. Perhaps not shocking that not everyone is a Christian.

Again, if you're looking for Judeo-Christian justification for marriage as anything other than 1 man and 1 woman you're unlikely to find it.

It's no more or less a sin than any other sin.

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I don't think 1947 agrees

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I don't believe in hell

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All part of your pick and choose 'theology'.

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hell is in column 2, next to the fried rice.

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Hell is clearly an ancient myth from not only Hebrew but other religious traditions.

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a you'd better pray you're right but then, who would you pray to?

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Your "hell scares" are meaningless. Clearly, the Bible is speaking of the hell wrong decisions about how we live our lives in the kingdom of God here and now.

Waco1947 said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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TexasScientist said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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KaiBear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ScottS said:

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nein51 said:

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Coke Bear said:

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nein51 said:

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I look at it like this; it's none of my business but I would prefer to be around friends who are really happy with their marriage than not, however that works for them.

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Even if there actions are leading them to hell?

Marriage is not about utilitarian happiness. It is about sacrifice.

Would you agree that a person having sex outside their marriage is adultery? Do you believe that adultery is a sin?

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I don't care at all if they go to hell and I'm going to guess 99% of lifestyle folks also don't care. Perhaps not shocking that not everyone is a Christian.

Again, if you're looking for Judeo-Christian justification for marriage as anything other than 1 man and 1 woman you're unlikely to find it.

It's no more or less a sin than any other sin.

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I don't think 1947 agrees

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I don't believe in hell

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All part of your pick and choose 'theology'.

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hell is in column 2, next to the fried rice.

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Hell is clearly an ancient myth from not only Hebrew but other religious traditions.

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a you'd better pray you're right but then, who would you pray to?

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Your "hell scares" are meaningless. Clearly, the Bible is speaking of the hell wrong decisions about how we live our lives in the kingdom of God here and now.

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Waco1947 said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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TexasScientist said:

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KaiBear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ScottS said:

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nein51 said:

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Coke Bear said:

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nein51 said:

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I look at it like this; it's none of my business but I would prefer to be around friends who are really happy with their marriage than not, however that works for them.

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Even if there actions are leading them to hell?

Marriage is not about utilitarian happiness. It is about sacrifice.

Would you agree that a person having sex outside their marriage is adultery? Do you believe that adultery is a sin?

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I don't care at all if they go to hell and I'm going to guess 99% of lifestyle folks also don't care. Perhaps not shocking that not everyone is a Christian.

Again, if you're looking for Judeo-Christian justification for marriage as anything other than 1 man and 1 woman you're unlikely to find it.

It's no more or less a sin than any other sin.

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I don't think 1947 agrees

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I don't believe in hell

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All part of your pick and choose 'theology'.

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hell is in column 2, next to the fried rice.

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Hell is clearly an ancient myth from not only Hebrew but other religious traditions.

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a you'd better pray you're right but then, who would you pray to?

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Your "hell scares" are meaningless. Clearly, the Bible is speaking of the hell wrong decisions about how we live our lives in the kingdom of God here and now.

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stupidity! You have no real point to make.

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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TexasScientist said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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KaiBear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ScottS said:

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nein51 said:

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Coke Bear said:

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nein51 said:

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I look at it like this; it's none of my business but I would prefer to be around friends who are really happy with their marriage than not, however that works for them.

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Even if there actions are leading them to hell?

Marriage is not about utilitarian happiness. It is about sacrifice.

Would you agree that a person having sex outside their marriage is adultery? Do you believe that adultery is a sin?

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I don't care at all if they go to hell and I'm going to guess 99% of lifestyle folks also don't care. Perhaps not shocking that not everyone is a Christian.

Again, if you're looking for Judeo-Christian justification for marriage as anything other than 1 man and 1 woman you're unlikely to find it.

It's no more or less a sin than any other sin.

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I don't think 1947 agrees

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I don't believe in hell

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All part of your pick and choose 'theology'.

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hell is in column 2, next to the fried rice.

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Hell is clearly an ancient myth from not only Hebrew but other religious traditions.

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a you'd better pray you're right but then, who would you pray to?

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Your "hell scares" are meaningless. Clearly, the Bible is speaking of the hell wrong decisions about how we live our lives in the kingdom of God here and now.

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stupidity! You have no real point to make.

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I think it is obvious that his point is you're wrong. It's not that difficult.

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Waco1947 said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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TexasScientist said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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KaiBear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ScottS said:

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nein51 said:

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Coke Bear said:

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nein51 said:

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I look at it like this; it's none of my business but I would prefer to be around friends who are really happy with their marriage than not, however that works for them.

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Even if there actions are leading them to hell?

Marriage is not about utilitarian happiness. It is about sacrifice.

Would you agree that a person having sex outside their marriage is adultery? Do you believe that adultery is a sin?

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I don't care at all if they go to hell and I'm going to guess 99% of lifestyle folks also don't care. Perhaps not shocking that not everyone is a Christian.

Again, if you're looking for Judeo-Christian justification for marriage as anything other than 1 man and 1 woman you're unlikely to find it.

It's no more or less a sin than any other sin.

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I don't think 1947 agrees

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I don't believe in hell

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All part of your pick and choose 'theology'.

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hell is in column 2, next to the fried rice.

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Hell is clearly an ancient myth from not only Hebrew but other religious traditions.

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a you'd better pray you're right but then, who would you pray to?

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Your "hell scares" are meaningless. Clearly, the Bible is speaking of the hell wrong decisions about how we live our lives in the kingdom of God here and now.

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stupidity! You have no real point to make.

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I think it is obvious that his point is you're wrong. It's not that difficult.

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ScottS said:

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nein51 said:

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Coke Bear said:

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nein51 said:

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I look at it like this; it's none of my business but I would prefer to be around friends who are really happy with their marriage than not, however that works for them.

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Even if there actions are leading them to hell?

Marriage is not about utilitarian happiness. It is about sacrifice.

Would you agree that a person having sex outside their marriage is adultery? Do you believe that adultery is a sin?

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I don't care at all if they go to hell and I'm going to guess 99% of lifestyle folks also don't care. Perhaps not shocking that not everyone is a Christian.

Again, if you're looking for Judeo-Christian justification for marriage as anything other than 1 man and 1 woman you're unlikely to find it.

It's no more or less a sin than any other sin.

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I don't think 1947 agrees

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I don't believe in hell

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All part of your pick and choose 'theology'.

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hell is in column 2, next to the fried rice.

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Hell is clearly an ancient myth from not only Hebrew but other religious traditions.

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a you'd better pray you're right but then, who would you pray to?

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Your "hell scares" are meaningless. Clearly, the Bible is speaking of the hell wrong decisions about how we live our lives in the kingdom of God here and now.

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Why do you oppose what Jesus taught?

Where did you get the arrogant idea that you know better?

For all you've said about humility, you are showing none.

https://explorethebible.lifeway.com/blog/adults/what-did-jesus-say-about-hell/#:~:text=Hell%20is%20forever.,25%3A46).

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Waco1947 said:

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nein51 said:

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I look at it like this; it's none of my business but I would prefer to be around friends who are really happy with their marriage than not, however that works for them.

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Even if there actions are leading them to hell?

Marriage is not about utilitarian happiness. It is about sacrifice.

Would you agree that a person having sex outside their marriage is adultery? Do you believe that adultery is a sin?

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I don't care at all if they go to hell and I'm going to guess 99% of lifestyle folks also don't care. Perhaps not shocking that not everyone is a Christian.

Again, if you're looking for Judeo-Christian justification for marriage as anything other than 1 man and 1 woman you're unlikely to find it.

It's no more or less a sin than any other sin.

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I don't think 1947 agrees

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I don't believe in hell

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All part of your pick and choose 'theology'.

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hell is in column 2, next to the fried rice.

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Hell is clearly an ancient myth from not only Hebrew but other religious traditions.

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a you'd better pray you're right but then, who would you pray to?

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Your "hell scares" are meaningless. Clearly, the Bible is speaking of the hell wrong decisions about how we live our lives in the kingdom of God here and now.

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Useless comment.

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Waco1947 said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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KaiBear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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ScottS said:

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nein51 said:

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Coke Bear said:

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nein51 said:

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I look at it like this; it's none of my business but I would prefer to be around friends who are really happy with their marriage than not, however that works for them.

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Even if there actions are leading them to hell?

Marriage is not about utilitarian happiness. It is about sacrifice.

Would you agree that a person having sex outside their marriage is adultery? Do you believe that adultery is a sin?

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I don't care at all if they go to hell and I'm going to guess 99% of lifestyle folks also don't care. Perhaps not shocking that not everyone is a Christian.

Again, if you're looking for Judeo-Christian justification for marriage as anything other than 1 man and 1 woman you're unlikely to find it.

It's no more or less a sin than any other sin.

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I don't think 1947 agrees

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I don't believe in hell

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All part of your pick and choose 'theology'.

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hell is in column 2, next to the fried rice.

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Hell is clearly an ancient myth from not only Hebrew but other religious traditions.

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a you'd better pray you're right but then, who would you pray to?

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Your "hell scares" are meaningless. Clearly, the Bible is speaking of the hell wrong decisions about how we live our lives in the kingdom of God here and now.

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Useless comment.

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How about a useful comment from you on this?

https://explorethebible.lifeway.com/blog/adults/what-did-jesus-say-about-hell/#:~:text=Hell%20is%20forever.,25%3A46).

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nein51 said:

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nein51 said:

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I look at it like this; it's none of my business but I would prefer to be around friends who are really happy with their marriage than not, however that works for them.

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Even if there actions are leading them to hell?

Marriage is not about utilitarian happiness. It is about sacrifice.

Would you agree that a person having sex outside their marriage is adultery? Do you believe that adultery is a sin?

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I don't care at all if they go to hell and I'm going to guess 99% of lifestyle folks also don't care. Perhaps not shocking that not everyone is a Christian.

Again, if you're looking for Judeo-Christian justification for marriage as anything other than 1 man and 1 woman you're unlikely to find it.

It's no more or less a sin than any other sin.

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Thats an interesting argument that you often hear. In terms of the ability of any sin to qualify you for needing forgiveness and salvation, I agree - a sin is a sin and lying will qualify you for needing salvation as much as murder. But the earthly consequences and harm you do to yourself spiritually vary vastly from sin to sin.

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I would think it is just like being gay. You cannot be actively pursuing your sin and expect salvation or exemption from it. Ie repentance is key and if you're actively doing something you're not being very repentant.

However, I think if you polled LS people virtually all of them would tell you they don't care as they assume that if there is a hell they are headed there.

This being a Baylor forum sort of skews a lot of perspectives. This part of the board, in particular, skews very conservative and in matters of faith very, very, very conservative. So it would be no shock that the sentiment towards open marriage is overwhelmingly negative. You probably wouldn't want to peddle old 3rd Reich memorabilia at a synagogue either, for example.

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Yes it skews it towards traditional Christian values, thankfully.

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I look at it like this; it's none of my business but I would prefer to be around friends who are really happy with their marriage than not, however that works for them.

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Even if there actions are leading them to hell?

Marriage is not about utilitarian happiness. It is about sacrifice.

Would you agree that a person having sex outside their marriage is adultery? Do you believe that adultery is a sin?

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I don't care at all if they go to hell and I'm going to guess 99% of lifestyle folks also don't care. Perhaps not shocking that not everyone is a Christian.

Again, if you're looking for Judeo-Christian justification for marriage as anything other than 1 man and 1 woman you're unlikely to find it.

It's no more or less a sin than any other sin.

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I don't think 1947 agrees

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I don't believe in hell

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All part of your pick and choose 'theology'.

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hell is in column 2, next to the fried rice.

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Hell is clearly an ancient myth from not only Hebrew but other religious traditions.

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a you'd better pray you're right but then, who would you pray to?

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Your "hell scares" are meaningless. Clearly, the Bible is speaking of the hell wrong decisions about how we live our lives in the kingdom of God here and now.

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Sorry 47 your post confuses me. Are you saying that you don't believe in an afterlife or souls or something else? Is there a heaven and not a hell? Please explain, really curious.

Think a lot of Baylor alums are in open relationships?

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Think a lot of Baylor alums are in open relationships?

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A lot? No.
Some? Yes.
More than you would think? 100%

Herb says no open marriage

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Think a lot of Baylor alums are in open relationships?

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A lot? No.
Some? Yes.
More than you would think? 100%

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You think that's mostly people who are happy with each other? Or mostly people whose marriage burned out but they're hanging in there legally for family / economic / public perception reasons?