40% are very worried about not paying expenses: Some will still vote Dem

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Some voters hate Trump because he is a liar and a carny. He tells people what they want to hear and some believe him. We could find a better leader.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Some voters hate Trump because he is a liar and a carny. He tells people what they want to hear and some believe him. We could find a better leader.
Probably, but Giggles the Cackling Hyena sure ain't it.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Some voters hate Trump because he is a liar and a carny. He tells people what they want to hear and some believe him. We could find a better leader.


Dem voters like you hate Trump because the TV told you to hate Trump. You don't hate him because he lies, the Dem politicians have been lying to you on nearly everything lately, but you simply don't care. You're not even smart enough to see how truly delusional you are being. Dems lie, lie, lie, you don't give a rip. You and the progressive voters are sad phonies.
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J.R. said:

ironically, many of you cat who are RWNJs sound just like Dems. Oh, poor me. People have 3 choices. 1)get educated 2) Increase your revenue as it isn't a cost problem. 3) live within your means.


(1) Is free and readily available on hr internet.
(3) Cost cutting can be implemented very quickly, but only to a point.

The problem is (2). increasing revenue/earning ability takes time and often money and a government that devalues the currency through irresponsible fiscal and monetary policy can do so much faster than people can increase their revenue.

A half century of bad policy has flown the economy into a financial coffin corner. Cut rates and unleash hyperinflation. Raise rates to the 8%-9% range you need to defeat inflation and you crash the banking system, all asset classes, and unleash a greater depression.
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Wife and I took our grandchildren to lunch yesterday in Estes Park.

$ 165

A few days ago bought 3 bags of groceries. No meat purchased of any kind.

$ 180


This inflairate is not sustainable for the vast majority of Americans. But relentless Dem propaganda could very well coerce American women into putting Harris in the White House anyway.

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Wait till the Harris administration rolls out the DEICBDC...They can take care of deplatforming their political opponents, reparations, and devaluation in one shot.
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KaiBear said:

Wife and I took our grandchildren to lunch yesterday in Estes Park.

$ 165

A few days ago bought 3 bags of groceries. No meat purchased of any kind.

$ 180


This inflairate is not sustainable for the vast majority of Americans. But relentless Dem propaganda could very well coerce American women into putting Harris in the White House anyway.


I used to know a poster here from Colorado. He was a really nice guy even though he was an Aggie. He entered the witness protection program and hasn't been heard from since!
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

BearWithMe said:

Wangchung said:

Porteroso said:

4th and Inches said:

Porteroso said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:


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A recent CNN poll indicates that nearly 40% of U.S. adults are constantly or frequently worried that their family's income won't cover their expenses. This is a notable rise from December 2021, when just 28% of adults shared these concerns, The Hill reported.
The fact that some of these people will still vote for the Democrats just shows you how pervasive, insidious and effective social engineering has been by the 24-hour News and Technomedia.

Trump was so good for Mainstreet America and particularly minorities, yet the constant chirping and bi#ching by the media and the political talking heads has broken people's brains. They will vote based on a false narrative and emotion. You see it everywhere, especially among your peers here. So many TDSers that can't think straight, they'll gladly send America further down the socialist drain just so they can feel good. Progressives and TDS repubs, truly broken individuals.

People have a true hatred of Trump, and he earned every bit. He spent 4 years antagonizing the left. He made something as simple as securing our border out to be racist and anti immigration. That is in the past now. Nobody who hated Trump is going to change their mind as long as they can vote for someone else in their own good conscience.
they hate Trump cause they were told to..

Anybody with a lick of sense can research every hate trump reason and find it to be twisted by the media. Of course Trump has railed on the left, they dog him daily

Trump used to be an icon in the black community and was in hundreds of rap videos. Now he is a racist.. whatever

Of course CNN and MSNBC have made hundreds of millions off their coverage of Trump. But that is just politics, has been for a long time. Our side is good, the other side is bad. Many politicians pick their words carefully to avoid being cast in the wrong light.
One side controls 90% of the media. One side fabricated Russian collusion, bounties on US soldiers, quid pro quo charges, and lie after lie.
I'll be transparent in the fact that I am ignorant on the money trail of who owns the media and their political bias, but I really want to learn more (referring to the claim that one side owns 90%).

Have any recommended reading materials on this topic - preferably backed by data? Cheers!


Just more info on this point for your own research. There was a fairly recent stat that like 1 in 10 journalists was a conservative. Don't remember the exact stat, but the number was so significantly skewed against conservatives that it statistically has to be by design. Meaning that the media conspired to keep conservatives off their payrolls, either by not hiring, firing, or making the workplace hostile to them.

In political surveys and political donations, the 90% journalist/dem figure holds up.
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Fact check: Do 97 percent of journalist donations go to Democrats? - Ballotpedia
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:

Wife and I took our grandchildren to lunch yesterday in Estes Park.

$ 165

A few days ago bought 3 bags of groceries. No meat purchased of any kind.

$ 180


This inflairate is not sustainable for the vast majority of Americans. But relentless Dem propaganda could very well coerce American women into putting Harris in the White House anyway.


I used to know a poster here from Colorado. He was a really nice guy even though he was an Aggie. He entered the witness protection program and hasn't been heard from since!


You keep saying this over and over .

Although I enjoy many of your comments ; wish you would drop this line.


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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Some voters hate Trump because he is a liar and a carny. He tells people what they want to hear and some believe him. We could find a better leader.


Dem voters like you hate Trump because the TV told you to hate Trump. You don't hate him because he lies, the Dem politicians have been lying to you on nearly everything lately, but you simply don't care. You're not even smart enough to see how truly delusional you are being. Dems lie, lie, lie, you don't give a rip. You and the progressive voters are sad phonies.


I have voted for one dem in my life and that was at the county level. Trump lies often and bigly. You measure intelligence by how much someone agrees with you
Trump's incompetence is what got the country to elect anyone but him. He is about to do it again. Open your eyes and get off your knees. The man was a card carrying democrat until he saw how weak the republican party had become by running people like McCain and Romney thst sucked the life out of the party.

Biden beat Trump. Let that sink in. You are supporting a flim flam ***** grabbing man.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-trumps-rnc-speech

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/24/opinion/trump-lies-charts-data.html

Here's a list of lies told in a recent speech.
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KaiBear said:

4th and Inches said:

KaiBear said:

4th and Inches said:

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A lovely example for CMS and his friends..
I never said that the Democrats were shining examples of honesty and integrity, in fact, I believe I said that most if not all Politicians engage in the same **** Trump does, Negative ads don't appeal to me, its the same as Negative recruitment in Football, I want someone to tell me why I should vote for them, not why I shouldn't vote for the other guy

Im not sure why you are posting that video for my edification though, are you trying to say that Trump and his campaign have never posted a campaign video using speeches from the other side edited out of context?
simply pointing out that others do the same things Trump does but they arent held to the same standard as Trump.

The "hate" for Trump is manufactured..


No

It's real

Especially with younger women .
I understand that overly emotional young women hate Donald Trump, but they didn't prior to the media telling them to..


They hate Donald Trump because at one time he was a total 'player '.

But unlike JFK and Bill Clinton …..Trump was publicly obnoxious about his scorecard .

The media certainly has kept that part of Trumps life and attitude alive . But that goes with the reality of being a Republican.

If JFK or Bill Clinton were Republicans; they would have gotten a similar media thrashing .

Although JFK might have had more women throw themselves at him than any politician in history.


Didn't Clinton get impeached for a bj?
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Some voters hate Trump because he is a liar and a carny. He tells people what they want to hear and some believe him. We could find a better leader.


Dem voters like you hate Trump because the TV told you to hate Trump. You don't hate him because he lies, the Dem politicians have been lying to you on nearly everything lately, but you simply don't care. You're not even smart enough to see how truly delusional you are being. Dems lie, lie, lie, you don't give a rip. You and the progressive voters are sad phonies.


I have voted for one dem in my life and that was at the county level. Trump lies often and bigly. You measure intelligence by how much someone agrees with you
Trump's incompetence is what got the country to elect anyone but him. He is about to do it again. Open your eyes and get off your knees. The man was a card carrying democrat until he saw how weak the republican party had become by running people like McCain and Romney thst sucked the life out of the party.

Biden beat Trump. Let that sink in. You are supporting a flim flam ***** grabbing man.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-trumps-rnc-speech

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/24/opinion/trump-lies-charts-data.html

Here's a list of lies told in a recent speech.
after watching the media rewrite K Harris history in real time, I find it hard to believe a list of anything they write about Trump. The fact checkers have a history of lying about him.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

KaiBear said:

4th and Inches said:

KaiBear said:

4th and Inches said:

cms186 said:

4th and Inches said:



A lovely example for CMS and his friends..
I never said that the Democrats were shining examples of honesty and integrity, in fact, I believe I said that most if not all Politicians engage in the same **** Trump does, Negative ads don't appeal to me, its the same as Negative recruitment in Football, I want someone to tell me why I should vote for them, not why I shouldn't vote for the other guy

Im not sure why you are posting that video for my edification though, are you trying to say that Trump and his campaign have never posted a campaign video using speeches from the other side edited out of context?
simply pointing out that others do the same things Trump does but they arent held to the same standard as Trump.

The "hate" for Trump is manufactured..


No

It's real

Especially with younger women .
I understand that overly emotional young women hate Donald Trump, but they didn't prior to the media telling them to..


They hate Donald Trump because at one time he was a total 'player '.

But unlike JFK and Bill Clinton …..Trump was publicly obnoxious about his scorecard .

The media certainly has kept that part of Trumps life and attitude alive . But that goes with the reality of being a Republican.

If JFK or Bill Clinton were Republicans; they would have gotten a similar media thrashing .

Although JFK might have had more women throw themselves at him than any politician in history.


Didn't Clinton get impeached for a bj?



No

Got impeached for lying about it and using his presidential powers to slander and intimidate witnesses.

Compared to Obama, Trump and Biden …..Bill Clinton was a decent president. A pragmatist, Clinton modified his liberal policies when faced with Republican majorities in Congress.

However he was, like JFK, a total sex addict.
Unlike JFK, Clinton would occasionally resort to sexual assault when his initial advances were rejected.

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Porteroso said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:


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A recent CNN poll indicates that nearly 40% of U.S. adults are constantly or frequently worried that their family's income won't cover their expenses. This is a notable rise from December 2021, when just 28% of adults shared these concerns, The Hill reported.
The fact that some of these people will still vote for the Democrats just shows you how pervasive, insidious and effective social engineering has been by the 24-hour News and Technomedia.

Trump was so good for Mainstreet America and particularly minorities, yet the constant chirping and bi#ching by the media and the political talking heads has broken people's brains. They will vote based on a false narrative and emotion. You see it everywhere, especially among your peers here. So many TDSers that can't think straight, they'll gladly send America further down the socialist drain just so they can feel good. Progressives and TDS repubs, truly broken individuals.

People have a true hatred of Trump, and he earned every bit. He spent 4 years antagonizing the left. He made something as simple as securing our border out to be racist and anti immigration. That is in the past now. Nobody who hated Trump is going to change their mind as long as they can vote for someone else in their own good conscience.


One of the dumbest posts I've read in a long time. Trump did not make it "racist", the left did that. Pretty much every bit of hate is manipulation of the lemmings and manufactured by the left.

He said several things that are outright racist. Try harder to deflect.
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Porteroso said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Porteroso said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:


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A recent CNN poll indicates that nearly 40% of U.S. adults are constantly or frequently worried that their family's income won't cover their expenses. This is a notable rise from December 2021, when just 28% of adults shared these concerns, The Hill reported.
The fact that some of these people will still vote for the Democrats just shows you how pervasive, insidious and effective social engineering has been by the 24-hour News and Technomedia.

Trump was so good for Mainstreet America and particularly minorities, yet the constant chirping and bi#ching by the media and the political talking heads has broken people's brains. They will vote based on a false narrative and emotion. You see it everywhere, especially among your peers here. So many TDSers that can't think straight, they'll gladly send America further down the socialist drain just so they can feel good. Progressives and TDS repubs, truly broken individuals.

People have a true hatred of Trump, and he earned every bit. He spent 4 years antagonizing the left. He made something as simple as securing our border out to be racist and anti immigration. That is in the past now. Nobody who hated Trump is going to change their mind as long as they can vote for someone else in their own good conscience.


One of the dumbest posts I've read in a long time. Trump did not make it "racist", the left did that. Pretty much every bit of hate is manipulation of the lemmings and manufactured by the left.

He said several things that are outright racist. Try harder to deflect.


I'm sure he's said something stupid. But not "several racist" things related to the border, so you should have no problem naming the them in context. I'm sure you will have to Google since you don't really remember.

Fwiw he's popular with blacks and Hispanics, so I'm guessing they think very little of your so called "Trump is racist" conjectures.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Porteroso said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Porteroso said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:


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A recent CNN poll indicates that nearly 40% of U.S. adults are constantly or frequently worried that their family's income won't cover their expenses. This is a notable rise from December 2021, when just 28% of adults shared these concerns, The Hill reported.
The fact that some of these people will still vote for the Democrats just shows you how pervasive, insidious and effective social engineering has been by the 24-hour News and Technomedia.

Trump was so good for Mainstreet America and particularly minorities, yet the constant chirping and bi#ching by the media and the political talking heads has broken people's brains. They will vote based on a false narrative and emotion. You see it everywhere, especially among your peers here. So many TDSers that can't think straight, they'll gladly send America further down the socialist drain just so they can feel good. Progressives and TDS repubs, truly broken individuals.

People have a true hatred of Trump, and he earned every bit. He spent 4 years antagonizing the left. He made something as simple as securing our border out to be racist and anti immigration. That is in the past now. Nobody who hated Trump is going to change their mind as long as they can vote for someone else in their own good conscience.


One of the dumbest posts I've read in a long time. Trump did not make it "racist", the left did that. Pretty much every bit of hate is manipulation of the lemmings and manufactured by the left.

He said several things that are outright racist. Try harder to deflect.


I'm sure he's said something stupid. But not "several racist" things related to the border, so you should have no problem naming the them in context. I'm sure you will have to Google since you don't really remember.

Fwiw he's popular with blacks and Hispanics, so I'm guessing they think very little of your so called "Trump is racist" conjectures.


What's funny is that poster probably doesn't think Biden or Obama are racists. Weird world view the "trumps a racist" crowd have but it's all they got typically
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Porteroso said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Porteroso said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:


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A recent CNN poll indicates that nearly 40% of U.S. adults are constantly or frequently worried that their family's income won't cover their expenses. This is a notable rise from December 2021, when just 28% of adults shared these concerns, The Hill reported.
The fact that some of these people will still vote for the Democrats just shows you how pervasive, insidious and effective social engineering has been by the 24-hour News and Technomedia.

Trump was so good for Mainstreet America and particularly minorities, yet the constant chirping and bi#ching by the media and the political talking heads has broken people's brains. They will vote based on a false narrative and emotion. You see it everywhere, especially among your peers here. So many TDSers that can't think straight, they'll gladly send America further down the socialist drain just so they can feel good. Progressives and TDS repubs, truly broken individuals.

People have a true hatred of Trump, and he earned every bit. He spent 4 years antagonizing the left. He made something as simple as securing our border out to be racist and anti immigration. That is in the past now. Nobody who hated Trump is going to change their mind as long as they can vote for someone else in their own good conscience.


One of the dumbest posts I've read in a long time. Trump did not make it "racist", the left did that. Pretty much every bit of hate is manipulation of the lemmings and manufactured by the left.

He said several things that are outright racist. Try harder to deflect.
please quote the exact words Trump used when making these statements. Raw footage is preferred, not quotes from media.
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He can't post it because he only remembers the narrative that the TV told him. If he was an honest poster, he'd be condemning Bidens many racist statements.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

He can't post it because he only remembers the narrative that the TV told him. If he was an honest poster, he'd be condemning Bidens many racist statements.

Plus the fact that one of his best buds and mentor was Senator Robert Byrd who began his political career by leading a chapter of the KKK. That fact alone would've ended Biden's career a long time ago if he was a Republican.
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Doc Holliday said:

J.R. said:

ironically, many of you cat who are RWNJs sound just like Dems. Oh, poor me. People have 3 choices. 1)get educated 2) Increase your revenue as it isn't a cost problem. 3) live within your means.
You misunderstand completely.

It's more like we're paying way too much for a service that the government fails to deliver. It's like buying something online and it never being delivered.

Getting screwed financially pisses me off. Don't know why it doesn't piss you off.


What isn't being delivered? You choose a Philosophy degree and you meet the requirements, you get the degree. There is no non-performance. What you do with it is up to you.

I know Philosophy majors that did well, went to Wake Forest on ROTC scholarship chose Philosophy because he liked it. Became an ADA Officer and now makes alot of money as a Contractor.

Others that can't find a job. It is not the degree.

There are legit programs to get your education paid for, if you choose to use them. If you choose not to and call your own shots more power to you. But don't ***** that it cost too much.

How many on this site used their VA benefit to get their first house or business? That isn't Govt spending too much, that is someone using what is available and paying in other ways.

I don't know how much you guys think little things like clean water, transportation, wastewater, Ports, Airports, Defense cost. Most people are paying pennies on the dollar for the benefits received. You take stuff for granted. Watch too many of you "Government spends too much" people yell that right up to the point when a road needs to go through your property, then you want top dollar. Driving costs of building a road to over a million a mile, most is Right of Way cost. But that is ok, as long as it goes in your account.
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FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

J.R. said:

ironically, many of you cat who are RWNJs sound just like Dems. Oh, poor me. People have 3 choices. 1)get educated 2) Increase your revenue as it isn't a cost problem. 3) live within your means.
You misunderstand completely.

It's more like we're paying way too much for a service that the government fails to deliver. It's like buying something online and it never being delivered.

Getting screwed financially pisses me off. Don't know why it doesn't piss you off.


What isn't being delivered? You choose a Philosophy degree and you meet the requirements, you get the degree. There is no non-performance. What you do with it is up to you.

I know Philosophy majors that did well, went to Wake Forest on ROTC scholarship chose Philosophy because he liked it. Became an ADA Officer and now makes alot of money as a Contractor.

Others that can't find a job. It is not the degree.

There are legit programs to get your education paid for, if you choose to use them. If you choose not to and call your own shots more power to you. But don't ***** that it cost too much.

How many on this site used their VA benefit to get their first house or business? That isn't Govt spending too much, that is someone using what is available and paying in other ways.

I don't know how much you guys think little things like clean water, transportation, wastewater, Ports, Airports, Defense cost. Most people are paying pennies on the dollar for the benefits received. You take stuff for granted. Watch too many of you "Government spends too much" people yell that right up to the point when a road needs to go through your property, then you want top dollar. Driving costs of building a road to over a million a mile, most is Right of Way cost. But that is ok, as long as it goes in your account.
In most cases it is the degree and how the world has changed toward credentialism. You're not going to get a degree in liberal arts and make a lot of money as a W-9 employee in that field and you're highly unlikely to get a job in a different field without credentials that you absolutely have to pay for in today's world. Does it happen? Yes. Can it happen at scale? No.

Really the crux of the problem is interest on entitlements. Non-discretionary spending is mandated by law. It includes entitlement programs, like Social Security, Medicare, and making the interest payments on the federal debt. Those entitlement programs are garbage on top of that because we're printing money to pay for it which causes inflation and lowers buying power. Its self defeating.

In 2024, FedGov's budget is $6.5 trillion, with a deficit of -$1.9 trillion. The National Debt stands at $35 trillion.

At an interest rate of only 2%, the yearly interest payments on that $35 trillion amount to $700 billion.
At 5%: $1.75 trillion
At 7%: $2.45 trillion
At 10%: $3.5 trillion/year

Just the interest payments on the debt ($870 billion) are the third biggest item in the Fed budget, exceeding even Defense spending. The CBO says the debt will be $50 trillion by 2034.


On top of all that we still spend like idiots. Just look into an omnibus bill:

$200,000,000 for the Gender Equity and Equality Action Fund

$50,000,000 for the Women's Leadership Fund.




I dunno I'm sure the National Coast Guard Museum is the t its, but could we hold off on the $50 million facelift until we get our financial sh *t together?


There's countless earmarks like this and they add up to a TON of money.

The premise of what I'm saying is you could be in the top 5% of earners and at the rate we're going they money isn't going to get you very far.
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Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

J.R. said:

ironically, many of you cat who are RWNJs sound just like Dems. Oh, poor me. People have 3 choices. 1)get educated 2) Increase your revenue as it isn't a cost problem. 3) live within your means.
You misunderstand completely.

It's more like we're paying way too much for a service that the government fails to deliver. It's like buying something online and it never being delivered.

Getting screwed financially pisses me off. Don't know why it doesn't piss you off.


What isn't being delivered? You choose a Philosophy degree and you meet the requirements, you get the degree. There is no non-performance. What you do with it is up to you.

I know Philosophy majors that did well, went to Wake Forest on ROTC scholarship chose Philosophy because he liked it. Became an ADA Officer and now makes alot of money as a Contractor.

Others that can't find a job. It is not the degree.

There are legit programs to get your education paid for, if you choose to use them. If you choose not to and call your own shots more power to you. But don't ***** that it cost too much.

How many on this site used their VA benefit to get their first house or business? That isn't Govt spending too much, that is someone using what is available and paying in other ways.

I don't know how much you guys think little things like clean water, transportation, wastewater, Ports, Airports, Defense cost. Most people are paying pennies on the dollar for the benefits received. You take stuff for granted. Watch too many of you "Government spends too much" people yell that right up to the point when a road needs to go through your property, then you want top dollar. Driving costs of building a road to over a million a mile, most is Right of Way cost. But that is ok, as long as it goes in your account.
In most cases it is the degree and how the world has changed toward credentialism. You're not going to get a degree in liberal arts and make a lot of money as a W-9 employee in that field and you're highly unlikely to get a job in a different field without credentials that you absolutely have to pay for in today's world. Does it happen? Yes. Can it happen at scale? No.

Really the crux of the problem is interest on entitlements. Non-discretionary spending is mandated by law. It includes entitlement programs, like Social Security, Medicare, and making the interest payments on the federal debt. Those entitlement programs are garbage on top of that because we're printing money to pay for it which causes inflation and lowers buying power. Its self defeating.

In 2024, FedGov's budget is $6.5 trillion, with a deficit of -$1.9 trillion. The National Debt stands at $35 trillion.

At an interest rate of only 2%, the yearly interest payments on that $35 trillion amount to $700 billion.
At 5%: $1.75 trillion
At 7%: $2.45 trillion
At 10%: $3.5 trillion/year

Just the interest payments on the debt ($870 billion) are the third biggest item in the Fed budget, exceeding even Defense spending. The CBO says the debt will be $50 trillion by 2034.


On top of all that we still spend like idiots. Just look into an omnibus bill:

$200,000,000 for the Gender Equity and Equality Action Fund

$50,000,000 for the Women's Leadership Fund.




I dunno I'm sure the National Coast Guard Museum is the t its, but could we hold off on the $50 million facelift until we get our financial sh *t together?


There's countless earmarks like this and they add up to a TON of money.

The premise of what I'm saying is you could be in the top 5% of earners and at the rate we're going they money isn't going to get you very far.
No doubt there is spending that is beyond the norm. I am one that puts education as a National resource and am not concerned over that type of spending. The interest and the discretionary things you mention, I agree. I HATE omnibus bills, every item should be at least done by category. Mixing Ukraine with other spending is BS. If we approve Ukraine, which I am in favor, make the argument and vote in Congress. That is their job. If it passes, so be it. If it fails, so be it. But it should be argued and voted. I do not think we are far apart on that.

I just get sick of hearing the no Govt spending and then watching them milk the system. For me, the issue is Right of Way cost. I have a project going to design, the Right of Way for one parcel is going to be close to 15% of the cost, for a parking lot... The owners, are big cut Govt spending. Until this project...
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FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

FLBear5630 said:

Doc Holliday said:

J.R. said:

ironically, many of you cat who are RWNJs sound just like Dems. Oh, poor me. People have 3 choices. 1)get educated 2) Increase your revenue as it isn't a cost problem. 3) live within your means.
You misunderstand completely.

It's more like we're paying way too much for a service that the government fails to deliver. It's like buying something online and it never being delivered.

Getting screwed financially pisses me off. Don't know why it doesn't piss you off.


What isn't being delivered? You choose a Philosophy degree and you meet the requirements, you get the degree. There is no non-performance. What you do with it is up to you.

I know Philosophy majors that did well, went to Wake Forest on ROTC scholarship chose Philosophy because he liked it. Became an ADA Officer and now makes alot of money as a Contractor.

Others that can't find a job. It is not the degree.

There are legit programs to get your education paid for, if you choose to use them. If you choose not to and call your own shots more power to you. But don't ***** that it cost too much.

How many on this site used their VA benefit to get their first house or business? That isn't Govt spending too much, that is someone using what is available and paying in other ways.

I don't know how much you guys think little things like clean water, transportation, wastewater, Ports, Airports, Defense cost. Most people are paying pennies on the dollar for the benefits received. You take stuff for granted. Watch too many of you "Government spends too much" people yell that right up to the point when a road needs to go through your property, then you want top dollar. Driving costs of building a road to over a million a mile, most is Right of Way cost. But that is ok, as long as it goes in your account.
In most cases it is the degree and how the world has changed toward credentialism. You're not going to get a degree in liberal arts and make a lot of money as a W-9 employee in that field and you're highly unlikely to get a job in a different field without credentials that you absolutely have to pay for in today's world. Does it happen? Yes. Can it happen at scale? No.

Really the crux of the problem is interest on entitlements. Non-discretionary spending is mandated by law. It includes entitlement programs, like Social Security, Medicare, and making the interest payments on the federal debt. Those entitlement programs are garbage on top of that because we're printing money to pay for it which causes inflation and lowers buying power. Its self defeating.

In 2024, FedGov's budget is $6.5 trillion, with a deficit of -$1.9 trillion. The National Debt stands at $35 trillion.

At an interest rate of only 2%, the yearly interest payments on that $35 trillion amount to $700 billion.
At 5%: $1.75 trillion
At 7%: $2.45 trillion
At 10%: $3.5 trillion/year

Just the interest payments on the debt ($870 billion) are the third biggest item in the Fed budget, exceeding even Defense spending. The CBO says the debt will be $50 trillion by 2034.


On top of all that we still spend like idiots. Just look into an omnibus bill:

$200,000,000 for the Gender Equity and Equality Action Fund

$50,000,000 for the Women's Leadership Fund.




I dunno I'm sure the National Coast Guard Museum is the t its, but could we hold off on the $50 million facelift until we get our financial sh *t together?


There's countless earmarks like this and they add up to a TON of money.

The premise of what I'm saying is you could be in the top 5% of earners and at the rate we're going they money isn't going to get you very far.
No doubt there is spending that is beyond the norm. I am one that puts education as a National resource and am not concerned over that type of spending. The interest and the discretionary things you mention, I agree. I HATE omnibus bills, every item should be at least done by category. Mixing Ukraine with other spending is BS. If we approve Ukraine, which I am in favor, make the argument and vote in Congress. That is their job. If it passes, so be it. If it fails, so be it. But it should be argued and voted. I do not think we are far apart on that.

I just get sick of hearing the no Govt spending and then watching them milk the system. For me, the issue is Right of Way cost. I have a project going to design, the Right of Way for one parcel is going to be close to 15% of the cost, for a parking lot... The owners, are big cut Govt spending. Until this project...
ROWs when you have no other available nearby parcels can get expensive. I've done several deals in oil and gas for ROWs and easements. I just put together a deal for a 1.5 acre tract at $1.1 million (surface sell), but that's because comps nearby are high which is a result of inflated prices which is a result of extreme spending.

I'm not against government spending, I'm against when it becomes self defeating.

I also think the private sector can achieve much more than government could ever dream of.
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4th and Inches said:

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A recent CNN poll indicates that nearly 40% of U.S. adults are constantly or frequently worried that their family's income won't cover their expenses. This is a notable rise from December 2021, when just 28% of adults shared these concerns, The Hill reported.
The fact that some of these people will still vote for the Democrats just shows you how pervasive, insidious and effective social engineering has been by the 24-hour News and Technomedia.

Trump was so good for Mainstreet America and particularly minorities, yet the constant chirping and bi#ching by the media and the political talking heads has broken people's brains. They will vote based on a false narrative and emotion. You see it everywhere, especially among your peers here. So many TDSers that can't think straight, they'll gladly send America further down the socialist drain just so they can feel good. Progressives and TDS repubs, truly broken individuals.

People have a true hatred of Trump, and he earned every bit. He spent 4 years antagonizing the left. He made something as simple as securing our border out to be racist and anti immigration. That is in the past now. Nobody who hated Trump is going to change their mind as long as they can vote for someone else in their own good conscience.


One of the dumbest posts I've read in a long time. Trump did not make it "racist", the left did that. Pretty much every bit of hate is manipulation of the lemmings and manufactured by the left.

He said several things that are outright racist. Try harder to deflect.
please quote the exact words Trump used when making these statements. Raw footage is preferred, not quotes from media.

I was thinking of him telling American Congresswoman to go back to where they came from, based upon the 3 of them not looking white.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/14/trump-congress-go-back-where-they-came-from-1415692

A lot of other things he says are difficult to categorize as racist or not. You would have to know the intent. Mexico not sending its best, several comments about Chinese people, etc.

I can look more up later
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

KaiBear said:

4th and Inches said:

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4th and Inches said:

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A lovely example for CMS and his friends..
I never said that the Democrats were shining examples of honesty and integrity, in fact, I believe I said that most if not all Politicians engage in the same **** Trump does, Negative ads don't appeal to me, its the same as Negative recruitment in Football, I want someone to tell me why I should vote for them, not why I shouldn't vote for the other guy

Im not sure why you are posting that video for my edification though, are you trying to say that Trump and his campaign have never posted a campaign video using speeches from the other side edited out of context?
simply pointing out that others do the same things Trump does but they arent held to the same standard as Trump.

The "hate" for Trump is manufactured..


No

It's real

Especially with younger women .
I understand that overly emotional young women hate Donald Trump, but they didn't prior to the media telling them to..


They hate Donald Trump because at one time he was a total 'player '.

But unlike JFK and Bill Clinton …..Trump was publicly obnoxious about his scorecard .

The media certainly has kept that part of Trumps life and attitude alive . But that goes with the reality of being a Republican.

If JFK or Bill Clinton were Republicans; they would have gotten a similar media thrashing .

Although JFK might have had more women throw themselves at him than any politician in history.


Didn't Clinton get impeached for a bj?


No.
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Should I have said he was impeached because he lied about getting a blow Job?


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Living fast or dying slow.
I dont want to live forever.
But I will live while I'm here.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Should I have said he was impeached because he lied about getting a blow Job?




Something about a cigar too
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ScottS said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Should I have said he was impeached because he lied about getting a blow Job?




Something about a cigar too


I realize that is probably frowned upon by some here but is it illegal?
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I dont want to live forever.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

ScottS said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Should I have said he was impeached because he lied about getting a blow Job?




Something about a cigar too


I realize that is probably frowned upon by some here but is it illegal?
It was not illegal.

The issue was he was in her Chain-of-Command. Getting a BJ from a subordinate is frowned upon and violates most employment policies.

Whether he could have been prosecuted? I doubt it if they were both adults.

IMO, rather than Impeach, they should have Censured since he was elected, not hired. It was not an inappropriate act.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

ScottS said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Should I have said he was impeached because he lied about getting a blow Job?




Something about a cigar too


I realize that is probably frowned upon by some here but is it illegal?


Her sleeping her way to money, promotions and power is not illegal. Sure she's like a hooker, just not in the legal sense. And to her credit, not everyone has what it takes to be a mistress, some people are just really good at adultery. Seems like that is going around at the top of the tickets these days. At least the top two aren't sniffing kids.

Definitely not appropriate, but she's up on top of everyone now running for president.
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4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

ironically, many of you cat who are RWNJs sound just like Dems. Oh, poor me. People have 3 choices. 1)get educated 2) Increase your revenue as it isn't a cost problem. 3) live within your means.
ironically, you sound like Biden admin in this post..

Gas price too high? Buy an EV!
yeah right. That is not tenable in my business.
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J.R. said:

4th and Inches said:

J.R. said:

ironically, many of you cat who are RWNJs sound just like Dems. Oh, poor me. People have 3 choices. 1)get educated 2) Increase your revenue as it isn't a cost problem. 3) live within your means.
ironically, you sound like Biden admin in this post..

Gas price too high? Buy an EV!
yeah right. That is not tenable in my business.
well, dont worry.. Harris is gonna solve that for you, you can always learn to code..
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