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no cms, you threw out a garbage opinion which evaporates in daylight and now you want to pretend otherwise.

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no, i didnt, its an opinion that i backed up with researched facts, rather than your huffing and puffing about something i didnt say.

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It's very simple.
The left throws people in jail for saying or believing things that they don't like. They believe that opposing thoughts and ideas are dangerous enough to require removal from society. So it isn't a giant leap for the left to decide to permanently remove people for what they believe/say.
It is the left who says "words are violence. It is the left who hates free speech and individual liberty. It is the left who uses violence to silence their opposition. It is the left who are weaponizing lunatics.

Perhaps you can provide examples of right wingers in western society who are jailing people for political speech?

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im pretty sure Putin does that on the regular

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no cms, you threw out a garbage opinion which evaporates in daylight and now you want to pretend otherwise.

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no, i didnt, its an opinion that i backed up with researched facts, rather than your huffing and puffing about something i didnt say.

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It's very simple.
The left throws people in jail for saying or believing things that they don't like. They believe that opposing thoughts and ideas are dangerous enough to require removal from society. So it isn't a giant leap for the left to decide to permanently remove people for what they believe/say.
It is the left who says "words are violence. It is the left who hates free speech and individual liberty. It is the left who uses violence to silence their opposition. It is the left who are weaponizing lunatics.

Perhaps you can provide examples of right wingers in western society who are jailing people for political speech?

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im pretty sure Putin does that on the regular

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Putin and Russia are not Westerners

They belong to another civilization....

And Putin is an ex-KGB communist. Hard to know what his real views are....he does seem to larp at being a Russian Nationalist these days but its very hard to know what he really believes (other than getting power for himself)

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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KaiBear said:

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And the attempted assassination of Trump, all the shootings by trans loonies such as Nashville, and others.

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again, i did not ignore them (though would point out the the guy who tried to murder Trump was a registered Republican voter, who also happened to donate a few bucks to a Voter Turnout program ran by the Democrats, so his Political position would best be described as confused or unformed), I was merely countering your original point.

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Is it true a citizen of the UK got an 18 month jail sentence for repeatedly saying

Who the ### is Muhammad ?

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i like how the Right Winger twitterati left out the part how he was part of a Far-Right demonstration who were throwing missiles at Police officers and he was sentenced for "Violent Disorder" (which he pled Guilty to, by the way)

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1. Its interesting how liberals become lovers of the police State as soon as its turn against those they can label "rightingers"

2. You know well that people have been arrested on all kinds of charges that involve free speech in the UK. In the recent protests/riots a young man was sentenced for just attending the protest (no violence caused by him)

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Regressives always love the police state.

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Yep and when the police state solely represents their ideology they're the biggest snitches too

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The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.

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Come on bud

The Tories (officially the Conservative Party) is not "right wing" in the UK

It's barely even conservative….

It's certainly no different than your average country club Mitt Romney type Republican in the USA

Mass immigration under the Tories actually increased….even as their voters were begging for 3rd world immigration to stop

Gay marriage was introduced by David Cameron and his Conservative Party…to howls of protest by average conservative votes who felt betrayed

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_(Same_Sex_Couples)_Act_2013

The Conservative Party of the UK might actually be the least conservative cultural party in the entire Western World.

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The Tories absolutely are Right Wing, probably not as far Right Wing as the Maga Republicans, but few are.

When Gay Marriage was introduced, it was actually under a Conservative/Liberal Democrat coalition, when The Conservatives didnt have a governing Majority, so had to ally with the Lib Dems (which was really strange, because they are a Left Wing party), a Majority of Tories voted against it, but virtually all Labout and Lib Dems voted for it, so it passed.

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Which is of course my point....the Conservative party of the UK helped to get "gay marriage" passed.

The Secretary who introduced the legislation was a Conservative MP, and the Prime Minister at the time was David Cameron who is of course a member of the Conservative party.

And extremely un-conservative idea (and lets be honest a made up one)

The Conservative party of the UK is just not very socially conservative....its even more economically left than most Anglo conservative parties. Pro-3rd world immigration, pro-abortion, pro-feminism, etc.

The fact that you think it is "right wing" in any meaningful sense tells me everything about you.

You're a far leftist who probably thinks Mitt Romney Corporate Mormon Republicans are "dangerous rightwingers"

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lol, you forgot to call me a Communist

cms186 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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KaiBear said:

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cms186 said:

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historian said:

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And the attempted assassination of Trump, all the shootings by trans loonies such as Nashville, and others.

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again, i did not ignore them (though would point out the the guy who tried to murder Trump was a registered Republican voter, who also happened to donate a few bucks to a Voter Turnout program ran by the Democrats, so his Political position would best be described as confused or unformed), I was merely countering your original point.

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Is it true a citizen of the UK got an 18 month jail sentence for repeatedly saying

Who the ### is Muhammad ?

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i like how the Right Winger twitterati left out the part how he was part of a Far-Right demonstration who were throwing missiles at Police officers and he was sentenced for "Violent Disorder" (which he pled Guilty to, by the way)

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1. Its interesting how liberals become lovers of the police State as soon as its turn against those they can label "rightingers"

2. You know well that people have been arrested on all kinds of charges that involve free speech in the UK. In the recent protests/riots a young man was sentenced for just attending the protest (no violence caused by him)

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Regressives always love the police state.

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Yep and when the police state solely represents their ideology they're the biggest snitches too

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The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.

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You don't have a right wing, you have neoliberals and leftists.

Here's the difference between people like me and people like you: You do not ask "is this true?", you ask "will others be OK with me thinking this is true?". This makes you very malleable to brute force manufactured consensus; if every screen you look at says the same thing then you will adopt that position because your brain interprets it as everyone in the tribe believing it.

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ShooterTX said:

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cms186 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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no cms, you threw out a garbage opinion which evaporates in daylight and now you want to pretend otherwise.

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no, i didnt, its an opinion that i backed up with researched facts, rather than your huffing and puffing about something i didnt say.

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It's very simple.
The left throws people in jail for saying or believing things that they don't like. They believe that opposing thoughts and ideas are dangerous enough to require removal from society. So it isn't a giant leap for the left to decide to permanently remove people for what they believe/say.
It is the left who says "words are violence. It is the left who hates free speech and individual liberty. It is the left who uses violence to silence their opposition. It is the left who are weaponizing lunatics.

Perhaps you can provide examples of right wingers in western society who are jailing people for political speech?

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im pretty sure Putin does that on the regular

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And the former KGB officer is Right wing???

I guess it depends on one's perspective!

An interesting article on what's going on in the UK and what we can probably expect here in the US:

https://stream.org/as-the-west-falls-in-love-with-tyranny-and-war-we-must-be-the-last-real-liberals As the West Falls in Love with Tyranny and War, We Must Be the World's Last Real Liberals

Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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KaiBear said:

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cms186 said:

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historian said:

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And the attempted assassination of Trump, all the shootings by trans loonies such as Nashville, and others.

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again, i did not ignore them (though would point out the the guy who tried to murder Trump was a registered Republican voter, who also happened to donate a few bucks to a Voter Turnout program ran by the Democrats, so his Political position would best be described as confused or unformed), I was merely countering your original point.

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Is it true a citizen of the UK got an 18 month jail sentence for repeatedly saying

Who the ### is Muhammad ?

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i like how the Right Winger twitterati left out the part how he was part of a Far-Right demonstration who were throwing missiles at Police officers and he was sentenced for "Violent Disorder" (which he pled Guilty to, by the way)

---

1. Its interesting how liberals become lovers of the police State as soon as its turn against those they can label "rightingers"

2. You know well that people have been arrested on all kinds of charges that involve free speech in the UK. In the recent protests/riots a young man was sentenced for just attending the protest (no violence caused by him)

---

Regressives always love the police state.

---

Yep and when the police state solely represents their ideology they're the biggest snitches too

---

The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.

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Come on bud

The Tories (officially the Conservative Party) is not "right wing" in the UK

It's barely even conservative….

It's certainly no different than your average country club Mitt Romney type Republican in the USA

Mass immigration under the Tories actually increased….even as their voters were begging for 3rd world immigration to stop

Gay marriage was introduced by David Cameron and his Conservative Party…to howls of protest by average conservative votes who felt betrayed

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_(Same_Sex_Couples)_Act_2013

The Conservative Party of the UK might actually be the least conservative cultural party in the entire Western World.

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The Tories absolutely are Right Wing, probably not as far Right Wing as the Maga Republicans, but few are.

When Gay Marriage was introduced, it was actually under a Conservative/Liberal Democrat coalition, when The Conservatives didnt have a governing Majority, so had to ally with the Lib Dems (which was really strange, because they are a Left Wing party), a Majority of Tories voted against it, but virtually all Labout and Lib Dems voted for it, so it passed.

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Which is of course my point....the Conservative party of the UK helped to get "gay marriage" passed.

The Secretary who introduced the legislation was a Conservative MP, and the Prime Minister at the time was David Cameron who is of course a member of the Conservative party.

And extremely un-conservative idea (and lets be honest a made up one)

The Conservative party of the UK is just not very socially conservative....its even more economically left than most Anglo conservative parties. Pro-3rd world immigration, pro-abortion, pro-feminism, etc.

The fact that you think it is "right wing" in any meaningful sense tells me everything about you.

You're a far leftist who probably thinks Mitt Romney Corporate Mormon Republicans are "dangerous rightwingers"

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lol, you forgot to call me a Communist

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Well there are certainly other types of Leftists out there than Communists.

I hope you don't believe in an evil ideology that killed 100+ million people in the 20th century and is oppressing millions more to this very day.

But you are free to describe your own politics to us....

I feel confident you are not moderate if you think the Conservative Party of the UK is "Far Right"

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I didnt describe the Conservatives as "Far Right"

Doc Holliday said:

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cms186 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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KaiBear said:

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cms186 said:

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historian said:

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And the attempted assassination of Trump, all the shootings by trans loonies such as Nashville, and others.

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again, i did not ignore them (though would point out the the guy who tried to murder Trump was a registered Republican voter, who also happened to donate a few bucks to a Voter Turnout program ran by the Democrats, so his Political position would best be described as confused or unformed), I was merely countering your original point.

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Is it true a citizen of the UK got an 18 month jail sentence for repeatedly saying

Who the ### is Muhammad ?

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i like how the Right Winger twitterati left out the part how he was part of a Far-Right demonstration who were throwing missiles at Police officers and he was sentenced for "Violent Disorder" (which he pled Guilty to, by the way)

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1. Its interesting how liberals become lovers of the police State as soon as its turn against those they can label "rightingers"

2. You know well that people have been arrested on all kinds of charges that involve free speech in the UK. In the recent protests/riots a young man was sentenced for just attending the protest (no violence caused by him)

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Regressives always love the police state.

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Yep and when the police state solely represents their ideology they're the biggest snitches too

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The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.

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You don't have a right wing, you have neoliberals and leftists.

Here's the difference between people like me and people like you: You do not ask "is this true?", you ask "will others be OK with me thinking this is true?". This makes you very malleable to brute force manufactured consensus; if every screen you look at says the same thing then you will adopt that position because your brain interprets it as everyone in the tribe believing it.

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except thats not true at all, but thanks for telling me how i think without knowing me at all

cms186 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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cms186 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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KaiBear said:

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cms186 said:

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historian said:

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And the attempted assassination of Trump, all the shootings by trans loonies such as Nashville, and others.

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again, i did not ignore them (though would point out the the guy who tried to murder Trump was a registered Republican voter, who also happened to donate a few bucks to a Voter Turnout program ran by the Democrats, so his Political position would best be described as confused or unformed), I was merely countering your original point.

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Is it true a citizen of the UK got an 18 month jail sentence for repeatedly saying

Who the ### is Muhammad ?

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i like how the Right Winger twitterati left out the part how he was part of a Far-Right demonstration who were throwing missiles at Police officers and he was sentenced for "Violent Disorder" (which he pled Guilty to, by the way)

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1. Its interesting how liberals become lovers of the police State as soon as its turn against those they can label "rightingers"

2. You know well that people have been arrested on all kinds of charges that involve free speech in the UK. In the recent protests/riots a young man was sentenced for just attending the protest (no violence caused by him)

---

Regressives always love the police state.

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Yep and when the police state solely represents their ideology they're the biggest snitches too

---

The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.

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You don't have a right wing, you have neoliberals and leftists.

Here's the difference between people like me and people like you: You do not ask "is this true?", you ask "will others be OK with me thinking this is true?". This makes you very malleable to brute force manufactured consensus; if every screen you look at says the same thing then you will adopt that position because your brain interprets it as everyone in the tribe believing it.

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except thats not true at all, but thanks for telling me how i think without knowing me at all

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Whats one thing you disagree with the neoliberal elite on? Name one thing you want that's a minority view.

Doc Holliday said:

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cms186 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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cms186 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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KaiBear said:

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cms186 said:

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historian said:

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And the attempted assassination of Trump, all the shootings by trans loonies such as Nashville, and others.

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again, i did not ignore them (though would point out the the guy who tried to murder Trump was a registered Republican voter, who also happened to donate a few bucks to a Voter Turnout program ran by the Democrats, so his Political position would best be described as confused or unformed), I was merely countering your original point.

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Is it true a citizen of the UK got an 18 month jail sentence for repeatedly saying

Who the ### is Muhammad ?

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i like how the Right Winger twitterati left out the part how he was part of a Far-Right demonstration who were throwing missiles at Police officers and he was sentenced for "Violent Disorder" (which he pled Guilty to, by the way)

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1. Its interesting how liberals become lovers of the police State as soon as its turn against those they can label "rightingers"

2. You know well that people have been arrested on all kinds of charges that involve free speech in the UK. In the recent protests/riots a young man was sentenced for just attending the protest (no violence caused by him)

---

Regressives always love the police state.

---

Yep and when the police state solely represents their ideology they're the biggest snitches too

---

The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.

---

You don't have a right wing, you have neoliberals and leftists.

Here's the difference between people like me and people like you: You do not ask "is this true?", you ask "will others be OK with me thinking this is true?". This makes you very malleable to brute force manufactured consensus; if every screen you look at says the same thing then you will adopt that position because your brain interprets it as everyone in the tribe believing it.

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except thats not true at all, but thanks for telling me how i think without knowing me at all

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Whats one thing you disagree with the neoliberal elite on? Name one thing you want that's a minority view.

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Well, I'm not well versed with the desires of the "Neoliberal Elite" but I think that the Privatisation of State-Owned Enterprises is a bad idea and I dont think Trade Tariffs are bad, does that count?

cms186 said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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KaiBear said:

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cms186 said:

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historian said:

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And the attempted assassination of Trump, all the shootings by trans loonies such as Nashville, and others.

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again, i did not ignore them (though would point out the the guy who tried to murder Trump was a registered Republican voter, who also happened to donate a few bucks to a Voter Turnout program ran by the Democrats, so his Political position would best be described as confused or unformed), I was merely countering your original point.

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Is it true a citizen of the UK got an 18 month jail sentence for repeatedly saying

Who the ### is Muhammad ?

---

i like how the Right Winger twitterati left out the part how he was part of a Far-Right demonstration who were throwing missiles at Police officers and he was sentenced for "Violent Disorder" (which he pled Guilty to, by the way)

---

1. Its interesting how liberals become lovers of the police State as soon as its turn against those they can label "rightingers"

2. You know well that people have been arrested on all kinds of charges that involve free speech in the UK. In the recent protests/riots a young man was sentenced for just attending the protest (no violence caused by him)

---

Regressives always love the police state.

---

Yep and when the police state solely represents their ideology they're the biggest snitches too

---

The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.

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Come on bud

The Tories (officially the Conservative Party) is not "right wing" in the UK

It's barely even conservative….

It's certainly no different than your average country club Mitt Romney type Republican in the USA

Mass immigration under the Tories actually increased….even as their voters were begging for 3rd world immigration to stop

Gay marriage was introduced by David Cameron and his Conservative Party…to howls of protest by average conservative votes who felt betrayed

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_(Same_Sex_Couples)_Act_2013

The Conservative Party of the UK might actually be the least conservative cultural party in the entire Western World.

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The Tories absolutely are Right Wing, probably not as far Right Wing as the Maga Republicans, but few are.

When Gay Marriage was introduced, it was actually under a Conservative/Liberal Democrat coalition, when The Conservatives didnt have a governing Majority, so had to ally with the Lib Dems (which was really strange, because they are a Left Wing party), a Majority of Tories voted against it, but virtually all Labout and Lib Dems voted for it, so it passed.

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Which is of course my point....the Conservative party of the UK helped to get "gay marriage" passed.

The Secretary who introduced the legislation was a Conservative MP, and the Prime Minister at the time was David Cameron who is of course a member of the Conservative party.

And extremely un-conservative idea (and lets be honest a made up one)

The Conservative party of the UK is just not very socially conservative....its even more economically left than most Anglo conservative parties. Pro-3rd world immigration, pro-abortion, pro-feminism, etc.

The fact that you think it is "right wing" in any meaningful sense tells me everything about you.

You're a far leftist who probably thinks Mitt Romney Corporate Mormon Republicans are "dangerous rightwingers"

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lol, you forgot to call me a Communist

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Well there are certainly other types of Leftists out there than Communists.

I hope you don't believe in an evil ideology that killed 100+ million people in the 20th century and is oppressing millions more to this very day.

But you are free to describe your own politics to us....

I feel confident you are not moderate if you think the Conservative Party of the UK is "Far Right"

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I didnt describe the Conservatives as "Far Right"

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Well I guess you said Right Wing vs Far Right...either way the UK Conservative party is not very right wing at all

[cms186 said:

The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.]

3 years for this apparently pic.twitter.com/cmOPoiSyB4

— Sean (@Xcellent78) August 16, 2024

Are we going to see waves of Brits crossing our southern border now to apply for asylum?

muddybrazos said:

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3 years for this apparently pic.twitter.com/cmOPoiSyB4

— Sean (@Xcellent78) August 16, 2024

Are we going to see waves of Brits crossing our southern border now to apply for asylum?

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You are already seeing some Boers from South Africa trying to get in because of racial discrimination against Whites in South Africa (and crime and poverty)

Redbrickbear said:

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muddybrazos said:

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3 years for this apparently pic.twitter.com/cmOPoiSyB4

— Sean (@Xcellent78) August 16, 2024

Are we going to see waves of Brits crossing our southern border now to apply for asylum?

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You are already seeing some Boers from South Africa trying to get in because of racial discrimination against Whites in South Africa (and crime and poverty)

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Yeah, I went to SA in 1989 when I was 13. My dad did business there and had friends/coworkers there. The folks that we stayed with moved to Australia back in the early 90s once stuff started getting bad there.

Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Regressives always love the police state.

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Yep and when the police state solely represents their ideology they're the biggest snitches too

---

The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.

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Come on bud

The Tories (officially the Conservative Party) is not "right wing" in the UK

It's barely even conservative….

It's certainly no different than your average country club Mitt Romney type Republican in the USA

Mass immigration under the Tories actually increased….even as their voters were begging for 3rd world immigration to stop

Gay marriage was introduced by David Cameron and his Conservative Party…to howls of protest by average conservative votes who felt betrayed

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_(Same_Sex_Couples)_Act_2013

The Conservative Party of the UK might actually be the least conservative cultural party in the entire Western World.

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The Tories absolutely are Right Wing, probably not as far Right Wing as the Maga Republicans, but few are.

When Gay Marriage was introduced, it was actually under a Conservative/Liberal Democrat coalition, when The Conservatives didnt have a governing Majority, so had to ally with the Lib Dems (which was really strange, because they are a Left Wing party), a Majority of Tories voted against it, but virtually all Labout and Lib Dems voted for it, so it passed.

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Which is of course my point....the Conservative party of the UK helped to get "gay marriage" passed.

The Secretary who introduced the legislation was a Conservative MP, and the Prime Minister at the time was David Cameron who is of course a member of the Conservative party.

And extremely un-conservative idea (and lets be honest a made up one)

The Conservative party of the UK is just not very socially conservative....its even more economically left than most Anglo conservative parties. Pro-3rd world immigration, pro-abortion, pro-feminism, etc.

The fact that you think it is "right wing" in any meaningful sense tells me everything about you.

You're a far leftist who probably thinks Mitt Romney Corporate Mormon Republicans are "dangerous rightwingers"

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lol, you forgot to call me a Communist

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Well there are certainly other types of Leftists out there than Communists.

I hope you don't believe in an evil ideology that killed 100+ million people in the 20th century and is oppressing millions more to this very day.

But you are free to describe your own politics to us....

I feel confident you are not moderate if you think the Conservative Party of the UK is "Far Right"

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I didnt describe the Conservatives as "Far Right"

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Well I guess you said Right Wing vs Far Right...either way the UK Conservative party is not very right wing at all

[cms186 said:

The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.]

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That might be your opinion, but by most peoples standards, the Conservatives are most definitely Right Wing

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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cms186 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Regressives always love the police state.

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Yep and when the police state solely represents their ideology they're the biggest snitches too

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The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.

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Come on bud

The Tories (officially the Conservative Party) is not "right wing" in the UK

It's barely even conservative….

It's certainly no different than your average country club Mitt Romney type Republican in the USA

Mass immigration under the Tories actually increased….even as their voters were begging for 3rd world immigration to stop

Gay marriage was introduced by David Cameron and his Conservative Party…to howls of protest by average conservative votes who felt betrayed

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_(Same_Sex_Couples)_Act_2013

The Conservative Party of the UK might actually be the least conservative cultural party in the entire Western World.

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The Tories absolutely are Right Wing, probably not as far Right Wing as the Maga Republicans, but few are.

When Gay Marriage was introduced, it was actually under a Conservative/Liberal Democrat coalition, when The Conservatives didnt have a governing Majority, so had to ally with the Lib Dems (which was really strange, because they are a Left Wing party), a Majority of Tories voted against it, but virtually all Labout and Lib Dems voted for it, so it passed.

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Which is of course my point....the Conservative party of the UK helped to get "gay marriage" passed.

The Secretary who introduced the legislation was a Conservative MP, and the Prime Minister at the time was David Cameron who is of course a member of the Conservative party.

And extremely un-conservative idea (and lets be honest a made up one)

The Conservative party of the UK is just not very socially conservative....its even more economically left than most Anglo conservative parties. Pro-3rd world immigration, pro-abortion, pro-feminism, etc.

The fact that you think it is "right wing" in any meaningful sense tells me everything about you.

You're a far leftist who probably thinks Mitt Romney Corporate Mormon Republicans are "dangerous rightwingers"

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lol, you forgot to call me a Communist

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Well there are certainly other types of Leftists out there than Communists.

I hope you don't believe in an evil ideology that killed 100+ million people in the 20th century and is oppressing millions more to this very day.

But you are free to describe your own politics to us....

I feel confident you are not moderate if you think the Conservative Party of the UK is "Far Right"

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I didnt describe the Conservatives as "Far Right"

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Well I guess you said Right Wing vs Far Right...either way the UK Conservative party is not very right wing at all

[cms186 said:

The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.]

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That might be your opinion, but by most peoples standards, the Conservatives are most definitely Right Wing

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Mildly

Right wing I guess as compared to UK Labour Party…but many it's a pretty worthless and meek right wing party

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Regressives always love the police state.

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Yep and when the police state solely represents their ideology they're the biggest snitches too

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The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.

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Come on bud

The Tories (officially the Conservative Party) is not "right wing" in the UK

It's barely even conservative….

It's certainly no different than your average country club Mitt Romney type Republican in the USA

Mass immigration under the Tories actually increased….even as their voters were begging for 3rd world immigration to stop

Gay marriage was introduced by David Cameron and his Conservative Party…to howls of protest by average conservative votes who felt betrayed

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_(Same_Sex_Couples)_Act_2013

The Conservative Party of the UK might actually be the least conservative cultural party in the entire Western World.

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The Tories absolutely are Right Wing, probably not as far Right Wing as the Maga Republicans, but few are.

When Gay Marriage was introduced, it was actually under a Conservative/Liberal Democrat coalition, when The Conservatives didnt have a governing Majority, so had to ally with the Lib Dems (which was really strange, because they are a Left Wing party), a Majority of Tories voted against it, but virtually all Labout and Lib Dems voted for it, so it passed.

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Which is of course my point....the Conservative party of the UK helped to get "gay marriage" passed.

The Secretary who introduced the legislation was a Conservative MP, and the Prime Minister at the time was David Cameron who is of course a member of the Conservative party.

And extremely un-conservative idea (and lets be honest a made up one)

The Conservative party of the UK is just not very socially conservative....its even more economically left than most Anglo conservative parties. Pro-3rd world immigration, pro-abortion, pro-feminism, etc.

The fact that you think it is "right wing" in any meaningful sense tells me everything about you.

You're a far leftist who probably thinks Mitt Romney Corporate Mormon Republicans are "dangerous rightwingers"

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lol, you forgot to call me a Communist

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Well there are certainly other types of Leftists out there than Communists.

I hope you don't believe in an evil ideology that killed 100+ million people in the 20th century and is oppressing millions more to this very day.

But you are free to describe your own politics to us....

I feel confident you are not moderate if you think the Conservative Party of the UK is "Far Right"

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I didnt describe the Conservatives as "Far Right"

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Well I guess you said Right Wing vs Far Right...either way the UK Conservative party is not very right wing at all

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The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.]

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That might be your opinion, but by most peoples standards, the Conservatives are most definitely Right Wing

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Right wing I guess as compared to UK Labour Party…but many it's a pretty worthless and meek right wing party

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arent most Political Parties?

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Doc Holliday said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Regressives always love the police state.

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Yep and when the police state solely represents their ideology they're the biggest snitches too

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The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.

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Come on bud

The Tories (officially the Conservative Party) is not "right wing" in the UK

It's barely even conservative….

It's certainly no different than your average country club Mitt Romney type Republican in the USA

Mass immigration under the Tories actually increased….even as their voters were begging for 3rd world immigration to stop

Gay marriage was introduced by David Cameron and his Conservative Party…to howls of protest by average conservative votes who felt betrayed

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_(Same_Sex_Couples)_Act_2013

The Conservative Party of the UK might actually be the least conservative cultural party in the entire Western World.

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The Tories absolutely are Right Wing, probably not as far Right Wing as the Maga Republicans, but few are.

When Gay Marriage was introduced, it was actually under a Conservative/Liberal Democrat coalition, when The Conservatives didnt have a governing Majority, so had to ally with the Lib Dems (which was really strange, because they are a Left Wing party), a Majority of Tories voted against it, but virtually all Labout and Lib Dems voted for it, so it passed.

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Which is of course my point....the Conservative party of the UK helped to get "gay marriage" passed.

The Secretary who introduced the legislation was a Conservative MP, and the Prime Minister at the time was David Cameron who is of course a member of the Conservative party.

And extremely un-conservative idea (and lets be honest a made up one)

The Conservative party of the UK is just not very socially conservative....its even more economically left than most Anglo conservative parties. Pro-3rd world immigration, pro-abortion, pro-feminism, etc.

The fact that you think it is "right wing" in any meaningful sense tells me everything about you.

You're a far leftist who probably thinks Mitt Romney Corporate Mormon Republicans are "dangerous rightwingers"

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lol, you forgot to call me a Communist

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Well there are certainly other types of Leftists out there than Communists.

I hope you don't believe in an evil ideology that killed 100+ million people in the 20th century and is oppressing millions more to this very day.

But you are free to describe your own politics to us....

I feel confident you are not moderate if you think the Conservative Party of the UK is "Far Right"

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I didnt describe the Conservatives as "Far Right"

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Well I guess you said Right Wing vs Far Right...either way the UK Conservative party is not very right wing at all

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The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.]

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That might be your opinion, but by most peoples standards, the Conservatives are most definitely Right Wing

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Mildly

Right wing I guess as compared to UK Labour Party…but many it's a pretty worthless and meek right wing party

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arent most Political Parties?

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I don't know

But I would love if the U.S. had more and two options and we could find out if choice helped at all

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And the attempted assassination of Trump, all the shootings by trans loonies such as Nashville, and others.

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again, i did not ignore them (though would point out the the guy who tried to murder Trump was a registered Republican voter, who also happened to donate a few bucks to a Voter Turnout program ran by the Democrats, so his Political position would best be described as confused or unformed), I was merely countering your original point.

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Is it true a citizen of the UK got an 18 month jail sentence for repeatedly saying

Who the ### is Muhammad ?

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i like how the Right Winger twitterati left out the part how he was part of a Far-Right demonstration who were throwing missiles at Police officers and he was sentenced for "Violent Disorder" (which he pled Guilty to, by the way)

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1. Its interesting how liberals become lovers of the police State as soon as its turn against those they can label "rightingers"

2. You know well that people have been arrested on all kinds of charges that involve free speech in the UK. In the recent protests/riots a young man was sentenced for just attending the protest (no violence caused by him)

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Regressives always love the police state.

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Yep and when the police state solely represents their ideology they're the biggest snitches too

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The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.

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You don't have a right wing, you have neoliberals and leftists.

Here's the difference between people like me and people like you: You do not ask "is this true?", you ask "will others be OK with me thinking this is true?". This makes you very malleable to brute force manufactured consensus; if every screen you look at says the same thing then you will adopt that position because your brain interprets it as everyone in the tribe believing it.

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except thats not true at all, but thanks for telling me how i think without knowing me at all

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Whats one thing you disagree with the neoliberal elite on? Name one thing you want that's a minority view.

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Well, I'm not well versed with the desires of the "Neoliberal Elite" but I think that the Privatisation of State-Owned Enterprises is a bad idea and I dont think Trade Tariffs are bad, does that count?

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No I mean you think it's perfectly fine if a child undergoes hormone therapy to transition.

Unfortunately no. The Leftist / socialist parties tend to be well organized, well funded, and relentless in pursuing all of their evil agenda: killing babies, mutilating children, helping illegal aliens, promoting criminal behavior, denying the rights of a country's citizens (in every country), and much more.

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cms186 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Regressives always love the police state.

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Yep and when the police state solely represents their ideology they're the biggest snitches too

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The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.

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Come on bud

The Tories (officially the Conservative Party) is not "right wing" in the UK

It's barely even conservative….

It's certainly no different than your average country club Mitt Romney type Republican in the USA

Mass immigration under the Tories actually increased….even as their voters were begging for 3rd world immigration to stop

Gay marriage was introduced by David Cameron and his Conservative Party…to howls of protest by average conservative votes who felt betrayed

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_(Same_Sex_Couples)_Act_2013

The Conservative Party of the UK might actually be the least conservative cultural party in the entire Western World.

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The Tories absolutely are Right Wing, probably not as far Right Wing as the Maga Republicans, but few are.

When Gay Marriage was introduced, it was actually under a Conservative/Liberal Democrat coalition, when The Conservatives didnt have a governing Majority, so had to ally with the Lib Dems (which was really strange, because they are a Left Wing party), a Majority of Tories voted against it, but virtually all Labout and Lib Dems voted for it, so it passed.

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Which is of course my point....the Conservative party of the UK helped to get "gay marriage" passed.

The Secretary who introduced the legislation was a Conservative MP, and the Prime Minister at the time was David Cameron who is of course a member of the Conservative party.

And extremely un-conservative idea (and lets be honest a made up one)

The Conservative party of the UK is just not very socially conservative....its even more economically left than most Anglo conservative parties. Pro-3rd world immigration, pro-abortion, pro-feminism, etc.

The fact that you think it is "right wing" in any meaningful sense tells me everything about you.

You're a far leftist who probably thinks Mitt Romney Corporate Mormon Republicans are "dangerous rightwingers"

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lol, you forgot to call me a Communist

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Well there are certainly other types of Leftists out there than Communists.

I hope you don't believe in an evil ideology that killed 100+ million people in the 20th century and is oppressing millions more to this very day.

But you are free to describe your own politics to us....

I feel confident you are not moderate if you think the Conservative Party of the UK is "Far Right"

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I didnt describe the Conservatives as "Far Right"

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Well I guess you said Right Wing vs Far Right...either way the UK Conservative party is not very right wing at all

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The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.]

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That might be your opinion, but by most peoples standards, the Conservatives are most definitely Right Wing

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Mildly

Right wing I guess as compared to UK Labour Party…but many it's a pretty worthless and meek right wing party

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arent most Political Parties?

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I don't know

But I would love if the U.S. had more and two options and we could find out if choice helped at all

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well yeah, on that we can agree, placing a vote nowadays feels like picking the lesser one of (usually) 2 evils or just wasting your vote

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Unfortunately that is true most of the time.

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And the attempted assassination of Trump, all the shootings by trans loonies such as Nashville, and others.

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again, i did not ignore them (though would point out the the guy who tried to murder Trump was a registered Republican voter, who also happened to donate a few bucks to a Voter Turnout program ran by the Democrats, so his Political position would best be described as confused or unformed), I was merely countering your original point.

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Is it true a citizen of the UK got an 18 month jail sentence for repeatedly saying

Who the ### is Muhammad ?

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i like how the Right Winger twitterati left out the part how he was part of a Far-Right demonstration who were throwing missiles at Police officers and he was sentenced for "Violent Disorder" (which he pled Guilty to, by the way)

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1. Its interesting how liberals become lovers of the police State as soon as its turn against those they can label "rightingers"

2. You know well that people have been arrested on all kinds of charges that involve free speech in the UK. In the recent protests/riots a young man was sentenced for just attending the protest (no violence caused by him)

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Regressives always love the police state.

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Yep and when the police state solely represents their ideology they're the biggest snitches too

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The laws that lead to these arrests were introduced by the Right Wing Tories, gotta love the Irony.

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You don't have a right wing, you have neoliberals and leftists.

Here's the difference between people like me and people like you: You do not ask "is this true?", you ask "will others be OK with me thinking this is true?". This makes you very malleable to brute force manufactured consensus; if every screen you look at says the same thing then you will adopt that position because your brain interprets it as everyone in the tribe believing it.

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except thats not true at all, but thanks for telling me how i think without knowing me at all

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Whats one thing you disagree with the neoliberal elite on? Name one thing you want that's a minority view.

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Well, I'm not well versed with the desires of the "Neoliberal Elite" but I think that the Privatisation of State-Owned Enterprises is a bad idea and I dont think Trade Tariffs are bad, does that count?

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No I mean you think it's perfectly fine if a child undergoes hormone therapy to transition.

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Actually (and i have said this several times before) I think that whilst its perfectly fine for Kids to question their identities and even mentally start a transition, they certainly shouldn't be undergoing any permanent treatment options to transition until they are Adults, Whilst i didnt question my Gender as a kid, I certainly recall my opinion about things changing a lot and dont really think that Kids should be making such radical, permenant changes to their bodies until they have had a chance to Mature.

I also dont think that Trans-Women should be allowed to participate in Womens sports where their undoubted Physical advantage makes it unfair, I dont think its an emotional issue, I just think its scientific, Men are naturally born with more Muscle attachments to their bodies, which is why they are naturally Stronger and Faster than Women, I have no issue at all with Trans-Gender people and wish them to have all the success in the world, but not when they get an unfair advantage over everyone else they are competing with.

A very reasonable position. I agree with almost all of it.

That's my position anytime someone is able to take 'unfair advantage'.

I believe everyone should have equal opportunity, but no quotas to help certain races or groups.

I believe anyone willing to follow the rules should have a chance at citizenship here, but anyone who enters the country illegally is cheating the real immigrants who do the right thing.

I believe in protecting people from unethical businesses, but we also need to protect people from unethical politicians who find new ways to spend literally Trillions of our dollars while not helping the people who pay in all that money.

UK government proposes treating “extreme misogyny” as a form of terrorism.

Teachers would be required to report misogynistic students to government authorities.

That’s a relief. Given the recent news, I was starting to think they had too much free speech in Britain. pic.twitter.com/mNfAeUZjV2

— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) August 17, 2024

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That's my position anytime someone is able to take 'unfair advantage'.

I believe everyone should have equal opportunity, but no quotas to help certain races or groups.

I believe anyone willing to follow the rules should have a chance at citizenship here, but anyone who enters the country illegally is cheating the real immigrants who do the right thing.

I believe in protecting people from unethical businesses, but we also need to protect people from unethical politicians who find new ways to spend literally Trillions of our dollars while not helping the people who pay in all that money.

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Anyone? I think at this point we need to have a cap and not let very many people in. Close to a 1/4 of our country is foreign born and thats not good. We need to have maybe a decade of low immigration to integrate all of these people or deport a lot of those who are here. I think the deportation thing may be wishful thinking but at the very least anyone who commits a crime from DUI to anything more serious should be sent out for good.

I think deportation can work, but it will take a long time and needs to be very clear on who and how and when.

Problem is, it will most of all take courage from the GOP, and as a party that's in short supply.

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I think deportation can work, but it will take a long time and needs to be very clear on who and how and when.

Problem is, it will most of all take courage from the GOP, and as a party that's in short supply.

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It wont happen. The establishment GOP want the migrants and the dems want the voters. We just need to control who comes in going forward.

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UK government proposes treating “extreme misogyny” as a form of terrorism.

Teachers would be required to report misogynistic students to government authorities.

That’s a relief. Given the recent news, I was starting to think they had too much free speech in Britain. pic.twitter.com/mNfAeUZjV2

— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) August 17, 2024

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So, reading between the lines, is this in response to Muslim immigrants?

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UK government proposes treating “extreme misogyny” as a form of terrorism.

Teachers would be required to report misogynistic students to government authorities.

That’s a relief. Given the recent news, I was starting to think they had too much free speech in Britain. pic.twitter.com/mNfAeUZjV2

— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) August 17, 2024

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So, reading between the lines, is this in response to Muslim immigrants?

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No way the UK will apply misogyny to Muslims. Only natives will be prosecuted for that.