Osodecentx said:

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KaiBear said:

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Israel has intensified their attacks throughout the region.

Stunned Turkey and Iran have not intervened.

I have been a life long supporter of Israel; but something has gone totally out of wack.

Time to te evaluate US blank checks to the Zionist State.

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Why won't Hamas release the hostages?

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UTExan said:

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KaiBear said:

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If Russian air strikes killed 472 Ukrainians in response to an ammunition dump being destroyed; few here would be ok with it.

Find myself hoping Turkey finally puts a halt to these massacres in Lebanon.

Because obviously the Israeli PM got some kind of assurances from Biden a few weeks ago that the US would continue the billions in aid regardless how many Lebanese were slaughtered.

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Hezbollah is going after population, not merely military facilities. That's why the area around Kiryat Shimona is abandoned. I was there 2 1/2 years ago and it was a busy, thriving small city. Go a bit east and you arrive at the Druze area around Majdal Shams where a Hezbollah missile killed 12 Druze Arab children (Druze volunteer for service in the Israel Defense Forces). Hezbolllah is a transnational criminal organization with ties to counterfeiting, narcotics trafficking, human trafficking, cigarette smuggling to avoid taxes in the US and weapons smuggling:
https://extremism.gwu.edu/sites/g/files/zaxdzs5746/files/Hezbollah%27s_Operations_and_Networks_in_the_United_States_June30_2022.pdf

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Osodecentx said:

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KaiBear said:

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UTExan said:

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KaiBear said:

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If Russian air strikes killed 472 Ukrainians in response to an ammunition dump being destroyed; few here would be ok with it.

Find myself hoping Turkey finally puts a halt to these massacres in Lebanon.

Because obviously the Israeli PM got some kind of assurances from Biden a few weeks ago that the US would continue the billions in aid regardless how many Lebanese were slaughtered.

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Hezbollah is going after population, not merely military facilities. That's why the area around Kiryat Shimona is abandoned. I was there 2 1/2 years ago and it was a busy, thriving small city. Go a bit east and you arrive at the Druze area around Majdal Shams where a Hezbollah missile killed 12 Druze Arab children (Druze volunteer for service in the Israel Defense Forces). Hezbolllah is a transnational criminal organization with ties to counterfeiting, narcotics trafficking, human trafficking, cigarette smuggling to avoid taxes in the US and weapons smuggling:
https://extremism.gwu.edu/sites/g/files/zaxdzs5746/files/Hezbollah%27s_Operations_and_Networks_in_the_United_States_June30_2022.pdf

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No argument.

But killing innocent Lebanese is only going to widen the war.

Israel has gone full aggy.

And no one should ever go full aggy.

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Why won't Hezbollah quit firing rockets into Israel?

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Osodecentx said:

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KaiBear said:

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UTExan said:

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KaiBear said:

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If Russian air strikes killed 472 Ukrainians in response to an ammunition dump being destroyed; few here would be ok with it.

Find myself hoping Turkey finally puts a halt to these massacres in Lebanon.

Because obviously the Israeli PM got some kind of assurances from Biden a few weeks ago that the US would continue the billions in aid regardless how many Lebanese were slaughtered.

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Hezbollah is going after population, not merely military facilities. That's why the area around Kiryat Shimona is abandoned. I was there 2 1/2 years ago and it was a busy, thriving small city. Go a bit east and you arrive at the Druze area around Majdal Shams where a Hezbollah missile killed 12 Druze Arab children (Druze volunteer for service in the Israel Defense Forces). Hezbolllah is a transnational criminal organization with ties to counterfeiting, narcotics trafficking, human trafficking, cigarette smuggling to avoid taxes in the US and weapons smuggling:
https://extremism.gwu.edu/sites/g/files/zaxdzs5746/files/Hezbollah%27s_Operations_and_Networks_in_the_United_States_June30_2022.pdf

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No argument.

But killing innocent Lebanese is only going to widen the war.

Israel has gone full aggy.

And no one should ever go full aggy.

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Why won't Hezbollah quit firing rockets into Israel?

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KaiBear said:

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If Russian air strikes killed 472 Ukrainians in response to an ammunition dump being destroyed; few here would be ok with it.

Find myself hoping Turkey finally puts a halt to these massacres in Lebanon.

Because obviously the Israeli PM got some kind of assurances from Biden a few weeks ago that the US would continue the billions in aid regardless how many Lebanese were slaughtered.

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Message for the people of Lebanon: pic.twitter.com/gNVNLUlvjm

— Benjamin Netanyahu - בנימין נתניהו (@netanyahu) September 23, 2024

A Palestinian father cries for his dead son whose leg suddenly itches. pic.twitter.com/WfaWzNSV6V

— Eli Afriat 🇮🇱🎗 (@EliAfriatISR) September 23, 2024

whiterock said:

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KaiBear said:

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Israel has intensified their attacks throughout the region.

Stunned Turkey and Iran have not intervened.

I have been a life long supporter of Israel; but something has gone totally out of wack.

Time to te evaluate US blank checks to the Zionist State.

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What is out of whack is the idea that Israel is condemned to an eternity of tit-for-tat proportional warfare with its enemies, warfare in which Iranian proxies EVERY TIME target Israeli civilians and Israel EVERY TIME targets military assets in response.

Iranian proxies launched the most brutal conventional military assault on civilians in our lifetime....literally shooting people on the dance floor for the sheer glee of it, just because those people were Jews, in four-digit numbers. That gave Israel justification to use its vastly superior military assets to demolish those proxies, which they are doing. Totally logical. Israel has shown great restraint, compared to its adversaries.

In WWII we firebombed German and Japanese cities to break the will of their peoples to continue the war effort. Israel is manifestly not doing that, as other posters have noted. To the extent there is collateral damage in Gaza, West Bank, Lebanon, and elsewhere....that is Pavlovian disincentive for the local population to tolerate Iranian proxies in their midst. Sure, it will incentivize some young men to join the intifada. It will also incentivize some fathers and grandfathers to rat-out Iranian proxy networks to Israeli intelligence.

Israel did not start this; but Israel is going to finish this. Good for them. So quit whining and put on your big girl panties on. Israel is killing people who want to do the same to us.

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ScottS said:

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Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations. I am glad Israel is now kicking their *****. No cease fires. No 2 state solutions. ALL OUT WAR! And, if it needs to head to Tehran too then so be it.

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KaiBear said:

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ScottS said:

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Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations. I am glad Israel is now kicking their *****. No cease fires. No 2 state solutions. ALL OUT WAR! And, if it needs to head to Tehran too then so be it.

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Absolutely

Another overseas war on behalf of our woke elites will certainly increase the army's dismal recruiting.

Or we can simply re establish the draft.

That will be popular.

Especially if it includes student deferments for those who can afford college.

Win-Win

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ScottS said:

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KaiBear said:

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ScottS said:

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Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations. I am glad Israel is now kicking their *****. No cease fires. No 2 state solutions. ALL OUT WAR! And, if it needs to head to Tehran too then so be it.

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Absolutely

Another overseas war on behalf of our woke elites will certainly increase the army's dismal recruiting.

Or we can simply re establish the draft.

That will be popular.

Especially if it includes student deferments for those who can afford college.

Win-Win

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I guess you are good with terror groups like Hamas and Hezbollah doing what they do on a daily basis.

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ScottS said:

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KaiBear said:

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ScottS said:

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Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations. I am glad Israel is now kicking their *****. No cease fires. No 2 state solutions. ALL OUT WAR! And, if it needs to head to Tehran too then so be it.

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Absolutely

Another overseas war on behalf of our woke elites will certainly increase the army's dismal recruiting.

Or we can simply re establish the draft.

That will be popular.

Especially if it includes student deferments for those who can afford college.

Win-Win

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I guess you are good with terror groups like Hamas and Hezbollah doing what they do on a daily basis.

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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KaiBear said:

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ScottS said:

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KaiBear said:

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ScottS said:

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Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations. I am glad Israel is now kicking their *****. No cease fires. No 2 state solutions. ALL OUT WAR! And, if it needs to head to Tehran too then so be it.

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Absolutely

Another overseas war on behalf of our woke elites will certainly increase the army's dismal recruiting.

Or we can simply re establish the draft.

That will be popular.

Especially if it includes student deferments for those who can afford college.

Win-Win

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I guess you are good with terror groups like Hamas and Hezbollah doing what they do on a daily basis.

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Yep I love terror groups.

Gives our elites an excuse to get our people killed and maimed while they safely play world policeman; thousands of miles from the screaming and smells of burning corpses.

To them it's all a video game with the added benefit of making more money.

Of course no other countries in our western hemisphere have experienced anything like the horror of 9-11 either.

Gutless pussie$ right ?

They just don't know how to get in on the 'excitement'.

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in your view, what should Israel do, this time and next?

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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KaiBear said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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KaiBear said:

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ScottS said:

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KaiBear said:

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ScottS said:

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Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations. I am glad Israel is now kicking their *****. No cease fires. No 2 state solutions. ALL OUT WAR! And, if it needs to head to Tehran too then so be it.

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Absolutely

Another overseas war on behalf of our woke elites will certainly increase the army's dismal recruiting.

Or we can simply re establish the draft.

That will be popular.

Especially if it includes student deferments for those who can afford college.

Win-Win

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I guess you are good with terror groups like Hamas and Hezbollah doing what they do on a daily basis.

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Yep I love terror groups.

Gives our elites an excuse to get our people killed and maimed while they safely play world policeman; thousands of miles from the screaming and smells of burning corpses.

To them it's all a video game with the added benefit of making more money.

Of course no other countries in our western hemisphere have experienced anything like the horror of 9-11 either.

Gutless pussie$ right ?

They just don't know how to get in on the 'excitement'.

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in your view, what should Israel do, this time and next?

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In my view Israel should withdraw from Gaza and stop the air attacks in Lebanon.

They have killed enough people already to satisfy any need for revenge.

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and the next time, or will this bring peace?

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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KaiBear said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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KaiBear said:

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ScottS said:

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KaiBear said:

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ScottS said:

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Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations. I am glad Israel is now kicking their *****. No cease fires. No 2 state solutions. ALL OUT WAR! And, if it needs to head to Tehran too then so be it.

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Absolutely

Another overseas war on behalf of our woke elites will certainly increase the army's dismal recruiting.

Or we can simply re establish the draft.

That will be popular.

Especially if it includes student deferments for those who can afford college.

Win-Win

---

I guess you are good with terror groups like Hamas and Hezbollah doing what they do on a daily basis.

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Yep I love terror groups.

Gives our elites an excuse to get our people killed and maimed while they safely play world policeman; thousands of miles from the screaming and smells of burning corpses.

To them it's all a video game with the added benefit of making more money.

Of course no other countries in our western hemisphere have experienced anything like the horror of 9-11 either.

Gutless pussie$ right ?

They just don't know how to get in on the 'excitement'.

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in your view, what should Israel do, this time and next?

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In my view Israel should withdraw from Gaza and stop the air attacks in Lebanon.

They have killed enough people already to satisfy any need for revenge.

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and the next time, or will this bring peace?

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Osodecentx said:

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KaiBear said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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KaiBear said:

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ScottS said:

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KaiBear said:

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ScottS said:

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Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations. I am glad Israel is now kicking their *****. No cease fires. No 2 state solutions. ALL OUT WAR! And, if it needs to head to Tehran too then so be it.

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Absolutely

Another overseas war on behalf of our woke elites will certainly increase the army's dismal recruiting.

Or we can simply re establish the draft.

That will be popular.

Especially if it includes student deferments for those who can afford college.

Win-Win

---

I guess you are good with terror groups like Hamas and Hezbollah doing what they do on a daily basis.

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Yep I love terror groups.

Gives our elites an excuse to get our people killed and maimed while they safely play world policeman; thousands of miles from the screaming and smells of burning corpses.

To them it's all a video game with the added benefit of making more money.

Of course no other countries in our western hemisphere have experienced anything like the horror of 9-11 either.

Gutless pussie$ right ?

They just don't know how to get in on the 'excitement'.

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in your view, what should Israel do, this time and next?

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In my view Israel should withdraw from Gaza and stop the air attacks in Lebanon.

They have killed enough people already to satisfy any need for revenge.

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Do you have a recommendation for Hamas & Hezbollah? Should they admit Israel has a right to live?

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KaiBear said:

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Osodecentx said:

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KaiBear said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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KaiBear said:

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ScottS said:

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KaiBear said:

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ScottS said:

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Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations. I am glad Israel is now kicking their *****. No cease fires. No 2 state solutions. ALL OUT WAR! And, if it needs to head to Tehran too then so be it.

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Absolutely

Another overseas war on behalf of our woke elites will certainly increase the army's dismal recruiting.

Or we can simply re establish the draft.

That will be popular.

Especially if it includes student deferments for those who can afford college.

Win-Win

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I guess you are good with terror groups like Hamas and Hezbollah doing what they do on a daily basis.

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Yep I love terror groups.

Gives our elites an excuse to get our people killed and maimed while they safely play world policeman; thousands of miles from the screaming and smells of burning corpses.

To them it's all a video game with the added benefit of making more money.

Of course no other countries in our western hemisphere have experienced anything like the horror of 9-11 either.

Gutless pussie$ right ?

They just don't know how to get in on the 'excitement'.

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in your view, what should Israel do, this time and next?

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In my view Israel should withdraw from Gaza and stop the air attacks in Lebanon.

They have killed enough people already to satisfy any need for revenge.

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Do you have a recommendation for Hamas & Hezbollah? Should they admit Israel has a right to live?

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Doesn't matter what is said.

Revenge will be on the mind of every family who lost loved ones.

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KaiBear said:

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Osodecentx said:

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KaiBear said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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KaiBear said:

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ScottS said:

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KaiBear said:

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ScottS said:

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Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorist organizations. I am glad Israel is now kicking their *****. No cease fires. No 2 state solutions. ALL OUT WAR! And, if it needs to head to Tehran too then so be it.

---

Absolutely

Another overseas war on behalf of our woke elites will certainly increase the army's dismal recruiting.

Or we can simply re establish the draft.

That will be popular.

Especially if it includes student deferments for those who can afford college.

Win-Win

---

I guess you are good with terror groups like Hamas and Hezbollah doing what they do on a daily basis.

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Yep I love terror groups.

Gives our elites an excuse to get our people killed and maimed while they safely play world policeman; thousands of miles from the screaming and smells of burning corpses.

To them it's all a video game with the added benefit of making more money.

Of course no other countries in our western hemisphere have experienced anything like the horror of 9-11 either.

Gutless pussie$ right ?

They just don't know how to get in on the 'excitement'.

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in your view, what should Israel do, this time and next?

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In my view Israel should withdraw from Gaza and stop the air attacks in Lebanon.

They have killed enough people already to satisfy any need for revenge.

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Do you have a recommendation for Hamas & Hezbollah? Should they admit Israel has a right to live?

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Doesn't matter what is said.

Revenge will be on the mind of every family who lost loved ones.

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