Off Broadway play about a J6 protester turned in by his son

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In reply to Waco1947 • 7:53p, 10/5/24
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And then there are those who, on January 6th watched it on live TV, watched leading Republicans condemn Trump for his actions in addition to members of his own staff, such as the following:

Former Trump aide Griffin: I will never not get sick to my stomach thinking about the fact Donald Trump sat in the room off the Oval Office watching Fox News, scrolling through Twitter, seeing police officers being beaten, hearing Mike Pence was moved to a secure location because his life was in danger, and said 'so what?'

And then there are those who say so what that's history what does that matter now? They didn't seem to want to respond to the question of what if he had been successful. No, they just rationalize it away and vote for him anyway. This is where we are as a nation, and we are to blame. We gripe and troll, but most of us do little else.
You've been told this was an orchestrated event with intent to overthrow the government and install Trump…you believe it without a second thought.

If a small amount of people could accomplish such a task, then you'd have to concede that our government is incompetent, helpless and can't govern nor protect itself: if it's that weak then it can't uphold our rights…wouldn't you say that's a much bigger threat to America than anything else? I mean if J6 supposedly could overthrow power, then you're pointing your finger at the wrong people.

You would also have to prove that Trump orchestrated all of this, of which there are no facts to support such claims.

In reality it was mob mentality carried out by people who are constantly gaslight by their government and fellow citizens…like you whose trying to gaslight this forum into believing false narratives about J6.
Live TV says we were not gaslighted. Trying to re-shape the narrative falls against the evidence seen by all.


I would ask you why the Democrats would only release part of the videos, destroyed the Stalin Show trial records, and cannot account t for all the agents and Pelosi denying security; but we know you cannot answer or think for yourself.




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In reply to Harrison Bergeron • 9:24p, 10/5/24
"but we know you cannot answer or think for yourself."
Who is "we" and your problem is what you think you know.

It ain't what you don't know that gets you in trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so that gets you in trouble." (Mark Twain)

His actions on January 6th alone proves he is unworthy to be president. However, there are a few other things that one can add to this convicted felon. However, you and your "we" already apparently know the long list to which I am referring .

Tell me, what would have happened if he had been successful that January 6th? Is that what you wanted to happen?

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In reply to BUDOS • 10:34p, 10/5/24
BUDOS said:
"but we know you cannot answer or think for yourself."
Who is "we" and your problem is what you think you know.

It ain't what you don't know that gets you in trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so that gets you in trouble." (Mark Twain)

His actions on January 6th alone proves he is unworthy to be president. However, there are a few other things that one can add to this convicted felon. However, you and your "we" already apparently know the long list to which I am referring .

Tell me, what would have happened if he had been successful that January 6th? Is that what you wanted to happen?



He was successful on January 6. He wrote some tweets and they were published. He gave a speech, and the microphone worked (people heard it). Thats what he did.
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In reply to BUDOS • 11:11p, 10/5/24
BUDOS said:
"but we know you cannot answer or think for yourself."
Who is "we" and your problem is what you think you know.

It ain't what you don't know that gets you in trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so that gets you in trouble." (Mark Twain)

His actions on January 6th alone proves he is unworthy to be president. However, there are a few other things that one can add to this convicted felon. However, you and your "we" already apparently know the long list to which I am referring .

Tell me, what would have happened if he had been successful that January 6th? Is that what you wanted to happen?



Remind us again, what crime Trump has been convicted of?


You can't.
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In reply to BUDOS • 11:54p, 10/5/24
BUDOS said:
"but we know you cannot answer or think for yourself."
Who is "we" and your problem is what you think you know.

It ain't what you don't know that gets you in trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so that gets you in trouble." (Mark Twain)

His actions on January 6th alone proves he is unworthy to be president. However, there are a few other things that one can add to this convicted felon. However, you and your "we" already apparently know the long list to which I am referring .

Tell me, what would have happened if he had been successful that January 6th? Is that what you wanted to happen?

You really have no Joy in your life, do you?
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In reply to ABC BEAR • 12:26a, 10/6/24
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BUDOS said:
"but we know you cannot answer or think for yourself."
Who is "we" and your problem is what you think you know.

It ain't what you don't know that gets you in trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so that gets you in trouble." (Mark Twain)

His actions on January 6th alone proves he is unworthy to be president. However, there are a few other things that one can add to this convicted felon. However, you and your "we" already apparently know the long list to which I am referring .

Tell me, what would have happened if he had been successful that January 6th? Is that what you wanted to happen?

You really have no Joy in your life, do you?
I'm sorry. I do not mean to be insulting to you, but ...

Have you seen the hot chicks in Russia? I mean I always thought G-d balanced the world by giving Russia the Russian climate and Russian chicks ...

Pretty sure as a Russian bot he gets among the hottest options ...

Not sure if it is Joy or just Lust, but pretty sure this guy is well rewarded for just posting Putin propaganda.
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In reply to BUDOS • 12:41a, 10/6/24
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You not only made an excellent insincere effort, you also met my expectations, and probably exceeded yours. Further indication that you really don't know what really happened.


I know what happened and by whom.

That anyone would believe an unarmed collection of tourists, old folks, grandparents, and oddballs could generate an 'insurrection' against armed police; backed up by the infinite resources of the FBI and US Marshals……needs the care of a licensed psychologist.

As such a narrative defies reality and common sense.

Some individuals were out of control, some were protesting and many were merely wandering around.

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6:59a, 10/6/24
Yeah, your responses or rather lack of a credible one pretty much speaks for itself. Rationalizations and avoidance is all you guys have. Truth often does that to people who don't want to handle it. Yep you're going to vote for the person who played the central role in this event, hoping he's elected so you don't have to deal with the verdict if it makes it to court.
You don't want to deal with admitting that he sit on his butt during the event allowing people to be hurt and killed, and later praising them for their actions in it.
You are going to vote for this person. What does that say about you?
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In reply to BUDOS • 7:10a, 10/6/24
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Yeah, your responses or rather lack of a credible one pretty much speaks for itself. Rationalizations and avoidance is all you guys have. Truth often does that to people who don't want to handle it. Yep you're going to vote for the person who played the central role in this event, hoping he's elected so you don't have to deal with the verdict if it makes it to court.
You don't want to deal with admitting that he sit on his butt during the event allowing people to be hurt and killed, and later praising them for their actions in it.
You are going to vote for this person. What does that say about you?



It says I am experienced enough and confident enough to evaluate current events for what they are …..and not for what relentless propaganda attempts to tell me.

Unarmed individuals primarily over the age of 40 have never led insurrections.

Period


Trump left the White House as protocol demanded. That is not the action of a would be dictator.


Period


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In reply to KaiBear • 1:58p, 10/6/24
Whew! Yeah had me fooled for a second; for a moment I thought you were serious! So, either you were joking, or you are the joke. Seriously, you are saying Trump was not responsible for January 6th, and that he didn't sit on his butt and let the violence continue?

"There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true." Soren Kierkegaard
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In reply to BUDOS • 2:29p, 10/6/24
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Whew! Yeah had me fooled for a second; for a moment I thought you were serious! So, either you were joking, or you are the joke. Seriously, you are saying Trump was not responsible for January 6th, and that he didn't sit on his butt and let the violence continue?

"There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true." Soren Kierkegaard


When Nixon bugged Watergate ….i wanted him impeached.
When Clinton had sex with an INTERN in the Oval Office ….I wanted him impeached.

When Joe Biden repeatedly violated has Oath of Office by flying illegals throughout our country in the dead of night …..I wanted him impeached .

There was no 'insurrection' …..inspired by Trump or otherwise.

So I don't want him impeached.


Now we have gone round and round a few times.
Neither of us is going to.change his mind or vote.


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In reply to KaiBear • 2:34p, 10/6/24
Nixon resigned before Congress could proceed with his impeachment, an almost certain outcome and Clinton was impeached, although the effort failed. Biden probably will never be punished adequately for all his crimes, including being the most prolific & successful coyote in history.
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In reply to BUDOS • 3:18p, 10/6/24
BUDOS: "sadly indicative of too many others who rationalize away the truth"

Odd that you would post that, given how well it applies to you, sir.
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In reply to KaiBear • 9:17p, 10/6/24
So you are going to vote for the guy who knowingly sit on his butt and watched his tv and allowed scores of people to get injured and others to injure scores of law enforcement officers for hours, in an effort to overthrow the election results? You want this guy to be president? To lead your country? Did you watch live television on that day?
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In reply to historian • 9:20p, 10/6/24
Okay fine, you want to join in then you answer this:
So you are going to vote for the guy who knowingly sit on his butt and watched his tv and allowed scores of people to get injured and others to injure scores of law enforcement officers for hours, in an effort to overthrow the election results? You want this guy to be president? To lead your country? Did you watch live television on that day?
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 9:25p, 10/6/24
Ok dude, you seem to have it figured out so help us all out and you give us your response.
So you are going to vote for the guy who knowingly sit on his butt and watched his tv and allowed scores of people to get injured and others to injure scores of law enforcement officers for hours, in an effort to overthrow the election results? You want this guy to be president? To lead your country? Did you watch live television on that day?
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In reply to BUDOS • 10:08p, 10/6/24
Repeating a mindless rant does not make it more rational, mister.

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In reply to Oldbear83 • 10:50p, 10/6/24
" Repeating a mindless rant does not make it more rational, mister"

Dude, you know it's not a mindless rant and the truth is quite rational, and it doesn't sit well with you, because you know it's the truth. All of you avoid answering because you're ashamed of yourselves.
You should be.
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In reply to BUDOS • 5:39a, 10/7/24
BUDOS said:
" Repeating a mindless rant does not make it more rational, mister"

Dude, you know it's not a mindless rant and the truth is quite rational, and it doesn't sit well with you, because you know it's the truth. All of you avoid answering because you're ashamed of yourselves.
You should be.


It's absolutely a mindless rant. The fact that you worded multiple posts almost word for word proves it.

January 6 was a riot by some angry people, with a lot of honest, good people there just for a legit Protest, and Trump's part in it was legal and in no way an "insurrection" or direction to do violence or break the law.

You display nothing but petty spite and foolish nonsense in posting as you have on this point

People voting for Trump are making a reasonable decision based on the available choices, and your bitter refusal to accept that is compounded by your ignorance of how many of us wanted someone else for the GOP nomination, but are making the only choice available that does not severely hurt our Republic.



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In reply to Oldbear83 • 7:16a, 10/7/24
Ok, then answer the question about what you think about him sitting on his butt watching his citizens fighting and injuring each other but he refused to stop it for hours? You are going to vote for this person, despite what he did, which was not putting America first. Your rationalizations speak for themselves. Loudly.
It's a simple question. And the answer is as well . Come on people, think about what type of person would do what he did, and what he is eagerly looking forward to doing. You are going to be complicit in those actions.
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In reply to BUDOS • 7:37a, 10/7/24
BUDOS said:
Ok, then answer the question about what you think about him sitting on his butt watching his citizens fighting and injuring each other but he refused to stop it for hours? You are going to vote for this person, despite what he did, which was not putting America first. Your rationalizations speak for themselves. Loudly.
It's a simple question. And the answer is as well . Come on people, think about what type of person would do what he did, and what he is eagerly looking forward to doing. You are going to be complicit in those actions.


You have gone 'full aggy' with your repetitive comments.

It's never good to go 'full aggy'.

Vote for your gal. She remains the dumbest vice president in the last 100 years.

But magically Harris will make a brilliant president and commander in chief. Little doubt she will continue the proxy war with Russia. What could possibly go wrong ?

Enjoy another 10 million illegals entering the country demanding free food, shelter and medical care.

Enjoy her proposed massive tax increases.

Most of all enjoy the inevitable restrictions on free speech.


Have a wonderful day.


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In reply to BUDOS • 9:22a, 10/7/24
BUDOS said:
Ok, then answer the question about what you think about him sitting on his butt watching his citizens fighting and injuring each other but he refused to stop it for hours? You are going to vote for this person, despite what he did, which was not putting America first. Your rationalizations speak for themselves. Loudly.
It's a simple question. And the answer is as well . Come on people, think about what type of person would do what he did, and what he is eagerly looking forward to doing. You are going to be complicit in those actions.
You keep asking the question but you never put forth any suggestions as to how he was to stop the riot.

Was Trump to individually call the FBI operatives in the crowd and command them to stop letting people into the Capital?

Was Trump to instruct Capital police to not shoot unarmed trespassers?

Was Trump to order Pelosi to adequately protect the Capital?

And finally, what does it say about your candidate that over 75million are going to vote for Trump over Giggles?
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In reply to D. C. Bear • 9:32a, 10/7/24
D. C. Bear said:
Waco1947 said:
BUDOS said:



And then there are those who, on January 6th watched it on live TV, watched leading Republicans condemn Trump for his actions in addition to members of his own staff, such as the following:

Former Trump aide Griffin: I will never not get sick to my stomach thinking about the fact Donald Trump sat in the room off the Oval Office watching Fox News, scrolling through Twitter, seeing police officers being beaten, hearing Mike Pence was moved to a secure location because his life was in danger, and said 'so what?'

And then there are those who say so what that's history what does that matter now? They didn't seem to want to respond to the question of what if he had been successful. No, they just rationalize it away and vote for him anyway. This is where we are as a nation, and we are to blame. We gripe and troll, but most of us do little else.
I do not understand why one would vote for a morally corrupt man for the sake of money.


And, yet, you have.
Repeatedly.
McGovern, Carter, Reagan, Mondale, Perot, Clinton, Gore, Obama, Clinton, and Biden
How many indictments, convictions and impeachment in that crowd?
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In reply to Waco1947 • 10:07a, 10/7/24
Waco1947 said:
D. C. Bear said:
Waco1947 said:
BUDOS said:



And then there are those who, on January 6th watched it on live TV, watched leading Republicans condemn Trump for his actions in addition to members of his own staff, such as the following:

Former Trump aide Griffin: I will never not get sick to my stomach thinking about the fact Donald Trump sat in the room off the Oval Office watching Fox News, scrolling through Twitter, seeing police officers being beaten, hearing Mike Pence was moved to a secure location because his life was in danger, and said 'so what?'

And then there are those who say so what that's history what does that matter now? They didn't seem to want to respond to the question of what if he had been successful. No, they just rationalize it away and vote for him anyway. This is where we are as a nation, and we are to blame. We gripe and troll, but most of us do little else.
I do not understand why one would vote for a morally corrupt man for the sake of money.


And, yet, you have.
Repeatedly.
McGovern, Carter, Reagan, Mondale, Perot, Clinton, Gore, Obama, Clinton, and Biden
How many indictments, convictions and impeachment in that crowd?


Interesting how you equate, "morally corrupt" with "convictions and impeachment." That's a pretty low bar.
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10:07a, 10/7/24
"Facts don't cease to exist because they are ignored." (Adolph Huxley)
Fact is you guys won't answer the question because of what it says about you and your own character. Rationalizing the truth doesn't change the truth; it just covers it up.
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In reply to BUDOS • 10:16a, 10/7/24
BUDOS said:
"Facts don't cease to exist because they are ignored." (Adolph Huxley)
Fact is you guys won't answer the question because of what it says about you and your own character. Rationalizing the truth doesn't change the truth; it just covers it up.


I know what a coup attempt is like. I've lived through coup attempts. BUDOS, January 6 was no coup attempt.

It was a protest that turned into a riot. Makes no difference in my voting choice because Trump disqualified himself from my list of candidates I would vote for before he won the first time he ran, but the whole waving the bloody shirt bit is pretty tiresome.
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In reply to BUDOS • 10:32a, 10/7/24
BUDOS said:
"Facts don't cease to exist because they are ignored." (Adolph Huxley)
Fact is you guys won't answer the question because of what it says about you and your own character. Rationalizing the truth doesn't change the truth; it just covers it up.


The relevant fact here is that you somehow imagine a spiteful imagination makes your third-grade-level argument anything more than a tantrum.

No one is ducking any serious question, we are simply calling your attention to the fact that you pissed yourself demanding attention to your screed by repetition.

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In reply to Oldbear83 • 12:29p, 10/7/24
Agreed. Having been on the other end more than once in another forum, I have an understanding of what you mean. My efforts do have a purpose, although it has been both enlightening yet discouraging at all but one or two responses over the last few weeks. I have found only one Trumper that truly addressed the question about what it said about his candidate and himself.
I am willing to move on for now.
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9:07p, 10/7/24

“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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In reply to BUDOS • 9:40p, 10/7/24
BUDOS said:



And then there are those who, on January 6th watched it on live TV, watched leading Republicans condemn Trump for his actions in addition to members of his own staff, such as the following:

Former Trump aide Griffin: I will never not get sick to my stomach thinking about the fact Donald Trump sat in the room off the Oval Office watching Fox News, scrolling through Twitter, seeing police officers being beaten, hearing Mike Pence was moved to a secure location because his life was in danger, and said 'so what?'

And then there are those who say so what that's history what does that matter now? They didn't seem to want to respond to the question of what if he had been successful. No, they just rationalize it away and vote for him anyway. This is where we are as a nation, and we are to blame. We gripe and troll, but most of us do little else.
Okay, but make your argument as to why we should then vote for those who said "so what" to our cities burning based on a false narrative THEY built, to rampant crime due to their soft on crime policies, to flooding our country with unprecedented levels of unvetted illegal immigrants, and to nude men with their pennises hanging out walking freely in ladies' rooms. And that's just for starters.

Your question isn't new. It's been brought up here many times. What none of you have presented is a compelling case as to why the alternative "so what" is the lesser evil. You're telling us there's a fly in our drink so we should drink the cup of poison instead.
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In reply to BUDOS • 9:44p, 10/7/24
BUDOS said:
"Facts don't cease to exist because they are ignored." (Adolph Huxley)
Fact is you guys won't answer the question because of what it says about you and your own character. Rationalizing the truth doesn't change the truth; it just covers it up.
How long have you been beating your wife?
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11:36p, 10/7/24

“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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2:14p, 10/8/24


Please do not forget about this very dangerous and scary man. He himself could overthrow the gov along with 10 grandma's.
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2:17p, 10/8/24
another convicted insurrectionist!!!!

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2:19p, 10/8/24
Another scary stormer:




She was armed with a cell phone!
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