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They haven't. Those voters are purple at best and they vote blue when they move. And there's a recent trend towards moving back to CA

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Yeah, they are finding out that Texas hill country might resemble some part of CA, the rest of the state is not CA. The ones I know in Austin are not happy, miss CA. Same with the Conservatives that fled CA to ID and NV. It is not really CA.

I have to admit it, CA is pretty cool state. I love Orange Cty, Pacific Coast Highway, San Clemente, and areas of SD. Palm Springs/Palm Desert are even nice to visit. Hat to say it but SoCal is a good trip. Not politically, but every time I go I enjoy myself and like it, even stayed in Downtown LA once it was a great trip. Too bad they destroyed it.

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Many Californians cannot handle the Texas heat and are heading back.

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They haven't. Those voters are purple at best and they vote blue when they move. And there's a recent trend towards moving back to CA

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Yeah, they are finding out that Texas hill country might resemble some part of CA, the rest of the state is not CA. The ones I know in Austin are not happy, miss CA. Same with the Conservatives that fled CA to ID and NV. It is not really CA.

I have to admit it, CA is pretty cool state. I love Orange Cty, Pacific Coast Highway, San Clemente, and areas of SD. Palm Springs/Palm Desert are even nice to visit. Hat to say it but SoCal is a good trip. Not politically, but every time I go I enjoy myself and like it, even stayed in Downtown LA once it was a great trip. Too bad they destroyed it.

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There are lots of amazing parts of CA. I would never live there but it's really not that bad. I think a lot of people are finding out Texas is hot AF and once you start you add all the "little" things it's not that cheap

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I agree. We loved Texas (Ft Hood, Temple, Belton and Amarillo). We hated Monterey (Ft Ord). Orange County, CA? That is a different animal. Laguna, Dana Pt, or San Clemente? If I had enough money, you could twist my arm...

Hmmmm

Once again, a 3:30am ballot dump lost us a critical race in Wisconsin pic.twitter.com/Ea7Pbn6I2V

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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Hmmmm

Once again, a 3:30am ballot dump lost us a critical race in Wisconsin pic.twitter.com/Ea7Pbn6I2V

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Ok, they are cherry picking data to prove their narrative. He won the election and the GOP has control of the House and Senate. He has 3 of 7 SC Justices picked by him. 3:30 in the morning may just be when they merge the data. Let it go.

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Hmmmm

Once again, a 3:30am ballot dump lost us a critical race in Wisconsin pic.twitter.com/Ea7Pbn6I2V

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Ok, they are cherry picking data to prove their narrative. He won the election and the GOP has control of the House and Senate. He has 3 of 7 SC Justices picked by him. 3:30 in the morning may just be when they merge the data. Let it go.

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while I tend to agree with you Pelosi also said they were focusing much more on House and Senate races

Make sure it doesnt happen in 26 or 28 and let it go for now is best course

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Hmmmm

Once again, a 3:30am ballot dump lost us a critical race in Wisconsin pic.twitter.com/Ea7Pbn6I2V

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Ok, they are cherry picking data to prove their narrative. He won the election and the GOP has control of the House and Senate. He has 3 of 7 SC Justices picked by him. 3:30 in the morning may just be when they merge the data. Let it go.

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Hmmmm

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Hmmmm

Once again, a 3:30am ballot dump lost us a critical race in Wisconsin pic.twitter.com/Ea7Pbn6I2V

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Ok, they are cherry picking data to prove their narrative. He won the election and the GOP has control of the House and Senate. He has 3 of 7 SC Justices picked by him. 3:30 in the morning may just be when they merge the data. Let it go.

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Hmmmm

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Sorry the risk/reward does not add up. One seat, if the were sure, is not worth the investigation that would follow with Trump winning. I guarantee when they look into it, nothing is found. Normal procedure. One seat when the House is lost, means nothing in context with what happened election night.

Hey, I might be wrong. Let's see what they find, I am sure Trump will look.

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Hmmmm

Once again, a 3:30am ballot dump lost us a critical race in Wisconsin pic.twitter.com/Ea7Pbn6I2V

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Ok, they are cherry picking data to prove their narrative. He won the election and the GOP has control of the House and Senate. He has 3 of 7 SC Justices picked by him. 3:30 in the morning may just be when they merge the data. Let it go.

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Hmmmm

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Sorry the risk/reward does not add up. One seat, if the were sure, is not worth the investigation that would follow with Trump winning. I guarantee when they look into it, nothing is found. Normal procedure. One seat when the House is lost, means nothing in context with what happened election night.

Hey, I might be wrong. Let's see what they find, I am sure Trump will look.

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Shouldn't the state of Wisconsin be investigating that?

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If there is a complaint? Was one filed by an observer? An instagram showing a drop of votes doesn't show anything. There are drops all day. Earlier in the day there was a much bigger one for Trump that took the lead. Should that be investigated??? The votes have to be aggregated sometime.

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They haven't. Those voters are purple at best and they vote blue when they move. And there's a recent trend towards moving back to CA

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Actually not: https://www.pods.com/blog/people-leaving-california

• In 2022, California lost 817,669 residents.
• Between 2018 and 2022, 352 companies moved their headquarters from California to a different state.
• The average cost of a single-family home in California is a shocking $737,677, more than double the national average.

https://www.forbes.com/home-improvement/moving-services/california-moving-statistics/

https://www.deseret.com/the-west/2024/03/10/why-are-people-moving-out-of-california/

https://www.businessinsider.com/most-people-leaving-california-moved-to-these-states-2024-10

It's a recent trend. Like something I've been seeing in the last few months. Lots of people moved out of state when their work left. I think you may start to see a good chunk of those move back.

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Data from the Census Bureau on state-to-state migration flows shows that California gained 42,279 Texas residents in 2022. In California, no other state had a larger number of residents moving in, revealing that Texans may have a sweet spot for the West Coast. Other states came close, however. Washington and New York both lost more than 31,000 residents to California.

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It's a recent trend. Like something I've been seeing in the last few months. Lots of people moved out of state when their work left. I think you may start to see a good chunk of those move back.

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Not gonna happen. Cali is a cesspool. I lived there during the 80s, went back a few times afterwards. Every trip it got worse. Now LA is one pit of homeless waiting for free stuff, cartels moving fentanyl freely, shops building guns to send to Mexico in exchange for drugs, felons shooed out of prisons on reduced and too-soon ended prison sentences, gangs operating freely in nearly every neighborhood, leniency in judge sentencing, super high cost of housing and taxes on everything. I mean everything. They left has turned into into crap. The only reason they have any funds is the money coming in from other states.

In the fiscal year of 2022, California's state debt stood at about 145.03 billion U.S. dollars. Comparatively, the state's debt was 57.17 billion U.S. dollars in 2000. The liberal legacy.

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It's a recent trend. Like something I've been seeing in the last few months. Lots of people moved out of state when their work left. I think you may start to see a good chunk of those move back.

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Not gonna happen. Cali is a cesspool. I lived there during the 80s, went back a few times afterwards. Every trip it got worse. Now LA is one pit of homeless waiting for free stuff, cartels moving fentanyl freely, shops building guns to send to Mexico in exchange for drugs, felons shooed out of prisons on reduced and too-soon ended prison sentences, gangs operating freely in nearly every neighborhood, leniency in judge sentencing, super high cost of housing and taxes on everything. I mean everything. They left has turned into into crap. The only reason they have any funds is the money coming in from other states.

In the fiscal year of 2022, California's state debt stood at about 145.03 billion U.S. dollars. Comparatively, the state's debt was 57.17 billion U.S. dollars in 2000. The liberal legacy.

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You're describing parts of LA and Oakland well and some parts of San Fran but California is a huge state with an incredible climate, wonderful views and it really isn't that liberal outside of a few counties.

There's lots of Californians in Texas and Florida that are starting to realize they hate. Hell there's even an Instagram trend for people moving back.

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Hmmmm

Once again, a 3:30am ballot dump lost us a critical race in Wisconsin pic.twitter.com/Ea7Pbn6I2V

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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Ok, they are cherry picking data to prove their narrative. He won the election and the GOP has control of the House and Senate. He has 3 of 7 SC Justices picked by him. 3:30 in the morning may just be when they merge the data. Let it go.

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Hmmmm

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Sorry the risk/reward does not add up. One seat, if the were sure, is not worth the investigation that would follow with Trump winning. I guarantee when they look into it, nothing is found. Normal procedure. One seat when the House is lost, means nothing in context with what happened election night.

Hey, I might be wrong. Let's see what they find, I am sure Trump will look.

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I was mostly joking. Your point is well taken.

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It's a recent trend. Like something I've been seeing in the last few months. Lots of people moved out of state when their work left. I think you may start to see a good chunk of those move back.

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Not gonna happen. Cali is a cesspool. I lived there during the 80s, went back a few times afterwards. Every trip it got worse. Now LA is one pit of homeless waiting for free stuff, cartels moving fentanyl freely, shops building guns to send to Mexico in exchange for drugs, felons shooed out of prisons on reduced and too-soon ended prison sentences, gangs operating freely in nearly every neighborhood, leniency in judge sentencing, super high cost of housing and taxes on everything. I mean everything. They left has turned into into crap. The only reason they have any funds is the money coming in from other states.

In the fiscal year of 2022, California's state debt stood at about 145.03 billion U.S. dollars. Comparatively, the state's debt was 57.17 billion U.S. dollars in 2000. The liberal legacy.

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You're describing parts of LA and Oakland well and some parts of San Fran but California is a huge state with an incredible climate, wonderful views and it really isn't that liberal outside of a few counties.

There's lots of Californians in Texas and Florida that are starting to realize they hate. Hell there's even an Instagram trend for people moving back.

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Those are probably run by Texans hoping to get rid of the Californians ASAP.

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Hmmmm

Once again, a 3:30am ballot dump lost us a critical race in Wisconsin pic.twitter.com/Ea7Pbn6I2V

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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Ok, they are cherry picking data to prove their narrative. He won the election and the GOP has control of the House and Senate. He has 3 of 7 SC Justices picked by him. 3:30 in the morning may just be when they merge the data. Let it go.

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Hmmmm

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Sorry the risk/reward does not add up. One seat, if the were sure, is not worth the investigation that would follow with Trump winning. I guarantee when they look into it, nothing is found. Normal procedure. One seat when the House is lost, means nothing in context with what happened election night.

Hey, I might be wrong. Let's see what they find, I am sure Trump will look.

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I was mostly joking. Your point is well taken.

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And I am sure they were cheating, this is just not the battle to fight!

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Hmmmm

Once again, a 3:30am ballot dump lost us a critical race in Wisconsin pic.twitter.com/Ea7Pbn6I2V

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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Especially weird since the 10:30 PM ballot drop seemed to have won it for Red.

I fear we are dealing with powerful magicks on both sides.

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Hmmmm

Once again, a 3:30am ballot dump lost us a critical race in Wisconsin pic.twitter.com/Ea7Pbn6I2V

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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Especially weird since the 10:30 PM ballot drop seemed to have won it for Red.

I fear we are dealing with powerful magicks on both sides.

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Or it was a normal data drop aggregating data.

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Hmmmm

Once again, a 3:30am ballot dump lost us a critical race in Wisconsin pic.twitter.com/Ea7Pbn6I2V

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Especially weird since the 10:30 PM ballot drop seemed to have won it for Red.

I fear we are dealing with powerful magicks on both sides.

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lol, expand the graph or put on your glasses

Both the blue and red lines moved up, not just the blue line only like 2020 and 330am

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You're missing the point. Spikes happen. Where's the rule that says they always benefit both parties equally? They don't.

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Hmmmm

Once again, a 3:30am ballot dump lost us a critical race in Wisconsin pic.twitter.com/Ea7Pbn6I2V

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Especially weird since the 10:30 PM ballot drop seemed to have won it for Red.

I fear we are dealing with powerful magicks on both sides.

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Or it was a normal data drop aggregating data.

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Correct.

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Hmmmm

Once again, a 3:30am ballot dump lost us a critical race in Wisconsin pic.twitter.com/Ea7Pbn6I2V

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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Especially weird since the 10:30 PM ballot drop seemed to have won it for Red.

I fear we are dealing with powerful magicks on both sides.

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lol, expand the graph or put on your glasses

Both the blue and red lines moved up, not just the blue line only like 2020 and 330am

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You're missing the point. Spikes happen. Where's the rule that says they always benefit both parties equally? They don't.

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Show some graphs with similar red spikes, and I will take it as normal. Haven't seen those yet.

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Why would those necessarily exist? It was predicted in 2020 that mail-in ballots would favor Democrats, and so they did. There's no rule that says both parties have an equal right to warm fuzzies every time there's an update.

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Hmmmm

Once again, a 3:30am ballot dump lost us a critical race in Wisconsin pic.twitter.com/Ea7Pbn6I2V

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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Especially weird since the 10:30 PM ballot drop seemed to have won it for Red.

I fear we are dealing with powerful magicks on both sides.

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lol, expand the graph or put on your glasses

Both the blue and red lines moved up, not just the blue line only like 2020 and 330am

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You're missing the point. Spikes happen. Where's the rule that says they always benefit both parties equally? They don't.

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Show some graphs with similar red spikes, and I will take it as normal. Haven't seen those yet.

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Why would those necessarily exist? It was predicted in 2020 that mail-in ballots would favor Democrats, and so they did. There's no rule that says both parties have an equal right to warm fuzzies every time there's an update.

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There are states where Democrats are not the majority. Do those have one sided spikes?

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Hmmmm

Once again, a 3:30am ballot dump lost us a critical race in Wisconsin pic.twitter.com/Ea7Pbn6I2V

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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Especially weird since the 10:30 PM ballot drop seemed to have won it for Red.

I fear we are dealing with powerful magicks on both sides.

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lol, expand the graph or put on your glasses

Both the blue and red lines moved up, not just the blue line only like 2020 and 330am

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You're missing the point. Spikes happen. Where's the rule that says they always benefit both parties equally? They don't.

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Show some graphs with similar red spikes, and I will take it as normal. Haven't seen those yet.

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Why would those necessarily exist? It was predicted in 2020 that mail-in ballots would favor Democrats, and so they did. There's no rule that says both parties have an equal right to warm fuzzies every time there's an update.

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There are states where Democrats are not the majority. Do those have one sided spikes?

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They certainly could, depending on where the votes are coming from.

But all of this was thoroughly litigated back in 2020. Republicans won this year. There's no need to keep dwelling on the paranoia that Trump was selling back then.

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Hmmmm

Once again, a 3:30am ballot dump lost us a critical race in Wisconsin pic.twitter.com/Ea7Pbn6I2V

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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Especially weird since the 10:30 PM ballot drop seemed to have won it for Red.

I fear we are dealing with powerful magicks on both sides.

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lol, expand the graph or put on your glasses

Both the blue and red lines moved up, not just the blue line only like 2020 and 330am

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You're missing the point. Spikes happen. Where's the rule that says they always benefit both parties equally? They don't.

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Show some graphs with similar red spikes, and I will take it as normal. Haven't seen those yet.

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Why would those necessarily exist? It was predicted in 2020 that mail-in ballots would favor Democrats, and so they did. There's no rule that says both parties have an equal right to warm fuzzies every time there's an update.

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There are states where Democrats are not the majority. Do those have one sided spikes?

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They certainly could, depending on where the votes are coming from.

But all of this was thoroughly litigated back in 2020. Republicans won this year. There's no need to keep dwelling on the paranoia that Trump was selling back then.

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But it seems that these are anomalies, or left leaning news would be posting such graphs to prove that it is not just Democratic run areas that have these anomalies. If Republicans are so apt to vote in person and so many more Democrats are voting by mail, there should be a red spike for election day in person tallies. But there isn't.

Saying that the issues were "thoroughly litigated" is dishonest, really, Hardly any of the issues actually made it to a case in court. Most were tossed for "lack of standing." I do wonder who it is that actually does have standing for such a case, especially the cases involving thwarting of state law and constitutions.

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Hmmmm

Once again, a 3:30am ballot dump lost us a critical race in Wisconsin pic.twitter.com/Ea7Pbn6I2V

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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Especially weird since the 10:30 PM ballot drop seemed to have won it for Red.

I fear we are dealing with powerful magicks on both sides.

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lol, expand the graph or put on your glasses

Both the blue and red lines moved up, not just the blue line only like 2020 and 330am

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You're missing the point. Spikes happen. Where's the rule that says they always benefit both parties equally? They don't.

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Show some graphs with similar red spikes, and I will take it as normal. Haven't seen those yet.

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Why would those necessarily exist? It was predicted in 2020 that mail-in ballots would favor Democrats, and so they did. There's no rule that says both parties have an equal right to warm fuzzies every time there's an update.

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There are states where Democrats are not the majority. Do those have one sided spikes?

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They certainly could, depending on where the votes are coming from.

But all of this was thoroughly litigated back in 2020. Republicans won this year. There's no need to keep dwelling on the paranoia that Trump was selling back then.

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Saying that the issues were "thoroughly litigated" is dishonest, really, Hardly any of the issues actually made it to a case in court. Most were tossed for "lack of standing." I do wonder who it is that actually does have standing for such a case, especially the cases involving thwarting of state law and constitutions.

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That's not true.

Schadenfreude from Australia!

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Hmmmm

Once again, a 3:30am ballot dump lost us a critical race in Wisconsin pic.twitter.com/Ea7Pbn6I2V

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 11, 2024

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Especially weird since the 10:30 PM ballot drop seemed to have won it for Red.

I fear we are dealing with powerful magicks on both sides.

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lol, expand the graph or put on your glasses

Both the blue and red lines moved up, not just the blue line only like 2020 and 330am

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You're missing the point. Spikes happen. Where's the rule that says they always benefit both parties equally? They don't.

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Show some graphs with similar red spikes, and I will take it as normal. Haven't seen those yet.

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Why would those necessarily exist? It was predicted in 2020 that mail-in ballots would favor Democrats, and so they did. There's no rule that says both parties have an equal right to warm fuzzies every time there's an update.

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There are states where Democrats are not the majority. Do those have one sided spikes?

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They certainly could, depending on where the votes are coming from.

But all of this was thoroughly litigated back in 2020. Republicans won this year. There's no need to keep dwelling on the paranoia that Trump was selling back then.

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Saying that the issues were "thoroughly litigated" is dishonest, really, Hardly any of the issues actually made it to a case in court. Most were tossed for "lack of standing." I do wonder who it is that actually does have standing for such a case, especially the cases involving thwarting of state law and constitutions.

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That's not true.

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And yet it is.

Just checked and of 82 suits brought by Republicans, only 6 had a conclusion beyond dismissed or denied.

The four suits filed against Republicans went beyond this with three going longer than two years.

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Nope.

https://www.cato.org/blog/trumps-2020-stolen-election-claims-are-wrong-merits