Gaetz as AG……

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KaiBear
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Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

Pam Bondi, AG from Florida is the new nominee


Much better choice.


Bad policy. When the next Democrat president is elected, will his AG prosecute the prosecutors who prosecute Biden's prosecutors. Bondi'd investigators will be investigated,. Lawfare never ends this way.

Pam Bondi, Trump's AG pick, said 'prosecutors will be prosecuted'
"The prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones," Bondi declared on Fox News in 2023, soon after Trump's fourth set of criminal charges. "The investigators will be investigated."
Bondi, a former Florida state attorney general, is drawing newfound attention since President-elect Trump announced his plans to nominate her to lead the Justice Department as U.S. attorney general.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/11/23/pam-bondi-doj-attorney-general-trump-pick/

you have it precisely backasswards.

It never ends if we do not have 2-3 perp walks for the most egregious examples of lawfare.

BOTH sides have fear the other. BOTH sides have to administer their days in power with the understanding that anything they do to the other side, the other side can do to them (the next time the other side wins an election). The devil on one shoulder whispering "do it" must be counterbalanced by the angel on the other whispering "would I want this done to me?"

Democrats moved so far outside of that structure that it suggested they were planning to never lose another election.


Committing bad policy vigorously doesn't transmute it into good policy. When Dems eventually come in they will prosecute your prosecutors & you'll be doing the perp walk
Exactly how is NOT prosecuting someone who broke law because of their political affiliation bad policy?
That's exactly what Dems will say in 2029 when the Republican perp walks begin


You seem content to pretend the Dems didn't begin this garbage.


Not at all. I'd like to see it end, not escalate


However you seem more intent on blaming Republicans for preventing future assaults …..rather than recognizing how the Dems began these lawfare attacks to being with.

Republicans have to respond .
Assassin
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KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

Pam Bondi, AG from Florida is the new nominee


Much better choice.


Bad policy. When the next Democrat president is elected, will his AG prosecute the prosecutors who prosecute Biden's prosecutors. Bondi'd investigators will be investigated,. Lawfare never ends this way.

Pam Bondi, Trump's AG pick, said 'prosecutors will be prosecuted'
"The prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones," Bondi declared on Fox News in 2023, soon after Trump's fourth set of criminal charges. "The investigators will be investigated."
Bondi, a former Florida state attorney general, is drawing newfound attention since President-elect Trump announced his plans to nominate her to lead the Justice Department as U.S. attorney general.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/11/23/pam-bondi-doj-attorney-general-trump-pick/

you have it precisely backasswards.

It never ends if we do not have 2-3 perp walks for the most egregious examples of lawfare.

BOTH sides have fear the other. BOTH sides have to administer their days in power with the understanding that anything they do to the other side, the other side can do to them (the next time the other side wins an election). The devil on one shoulder whispering "do it" must be counterbalanced by the angel on the other whispering "would I want this done to me?"

Democrats moved so far outside of that structure that it suggested they were planning to never lose another election.


Committing bad policy vigorously doesn't transmute it into good policy. When Dems eventually come in they will prosecute your prosecutors & you'll be doing the perp walk
Exactly how is NOT prosecuting someone who broke law because of their political affiliation bad policy?
That's exactly what Dems will say in 2029 when the Republican perp walks begin


You seem content to pretend the Dems didn't begin this garbage.


Not at all. I'd like to see it end, not escalate


However you seem more intent on blaming Republicans for preventing future assaults …..rather than recognizing how the Dems began these lawfare attacks to being with.

Republicans have to respond .
Gotta agree with Kai. There will be no end to this from the Left until our crush that enema, see them driven before us and to hear the lamentations of the View...
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KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

Pam Bondi, AG from Florida is the new nominee


Much better choice.


Bad policy. When the next Democrat president is elected, will his AG prosecute the prosecutors who prosecute Biden's prosecutors. Bondi'd investigators will be investigated,. Lawfare never ends this way.

Pam Bondi, Trump's AG pick, said 'prosecutors will be prosecuted'
"The prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones," Bondi declared on Fox News in 2023, soon after Trump's fourth set of criminal charges. "The investigators will be investigated."
Bondi, a former Florida state attorney general, is drawing newfound attention since President-elect Trump announced his plans to nominate her to lead the Justice Department as U.S. attorney general.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/11/23/pam-bondi-doj-attorney-general-trump-pick/

you have it precisely backasswards.

It never ends if we do not have 2-3 perp walks for the most egregious examples of lawfare.

BOTH sides have fear the other. BOTH sides have to administer their days in power with the understanding that anything they do to the other side, the other side can do to them (the next time the other side wins an election). The devil on one shoulder whispering "do it" must be counterbalanced by the angel on the other whispering "would I want this done to me?"

Democrats moved so far outside of that structure that it suggested they were planning to never lose another election.


Committing bad policy vigorously doesn't transmute it into good policy. When Dems eventually come in they will prosecute your prosecutors & you'll be doing the perp walk
Exactly how is NOT prosecuting someone who broke law because of their political affiliation bad policy?
That's exactly what Dems will say in 2029 when the Republican perp walks begin


You seem content to pretend the Dems didn't begin this garbage.


Not at all. I'd like to see it end, not escalate


However you seem more intent on blaming Republicans for preventing future assaults …..rather than recognizing how the Dems began these lawfare attacks to being with.

Republicans have to respond .
I'm not blaming Republicans for future assaults, I'm just quoting them. They seem more intent on sending political opponents to prison and arguing about who won the 2020 election.

You guys have the wind at your backs and the confidence of much of the country. Don't blow it on the bright shiny objects.
Solve the border, drill baby drill, and back Musk/Vivek. Don't focus on distractions
Osodecentx
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Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

Pam Bondi, AG from Florida is the new nominee


Much better choice.


Bad policy. When the next Democrat president is elected, will his AG prosecute the prosecutors who prosecute Biden's prosecutors. Bondi'd investigators will be investigated,. Lawfare never ends this way.

Pam Bondi, Trump's AG pick, said 'prosecutors will be prosecuted'
"The prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones," Bondi declared on Fox News in 2023, soon after Trump's fourth set of criminal charges. "The investigators will be investigated."
Bondi, a former Florida state attorney general, is drawing newfound attention since President-elect Trump announced his plans to nominate her to lead the Justice Department as U.S. attorney general.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/11/23/pam-bondi-doj-attorney-general-trump-pick/

you have it precisely backasswards.

It never ends if we do not have 2-3 perp walks for the most egregious examples of lawfare.

BOTH sides have fear the other. BOTH sides have to administer their days in power with the understanding that anything they do to the other side, the other side can do to them (the next time the other side wins an election). The devil on one shoulder whispering "do it" must be counterbalanced by the angel on the other whispering "would I want this done to me?"

Democrats moved so far outside of that structure that it suggested they were planning to never lose another election.


Committing bad policy vigorously doesn't transmute it into good policy. When Dems eventually come in they will prosecute your prosecutors & you'll be doing the perp walk
Exactly how is NOT prosecuting someone who broke law because of their political affiliation bad policy?
That's exactly what Dems will say in 2029 when the Republican perp walks begin


You seem content to pretend the Dems didn't begin this garbage.


Not at all. I'd like to see it end, not escalate


However you seem more intent on blaming Republicans for preventing future assaults …..rather than recognizing how the Dems began these lawfare attacks to being with.

Republicans have to respond .
Gotta agree with Kai. There will be no end to this from the Left until our crush that enema, see them driven before us and to hear the lamentations of the View...
You aren't going to kill all Dems or left leaning independents.
You guys have 49% of the country behind you.
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FLBear5630 said:

Married A Horn said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

Pam Bondi, AG from Florida is the new nominee


Much better choice.


Bad policy. When the next Democrat president is elected, will his AG prosecute the prosecutors who prosecute Biden's prosecutors. Bondi'd investigators will be investigated,. Lawfare never ends this way.

Pam Bondi, Trump's AG pick, said 'prosecutors will be prosecuted'
"The prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones," Bondi declared on Fox News in 2023, soon after Trump's fourth set of criminal charges. "The investigators will be investigated."
Bondi, a former Florida state attorney general, is drawing newfound attention since President-elect Trump announced his plans to nominate her to lead the Justice Department as U.S. attorney general.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/11/23/pam-bondi-doj-attorney-general-trump-pick/

you have it precisely backasswards.

It never ends if we do not have 2-3 perp walks for the most egregious examples of lawfare.

BOTH sides have fear the other. BOTH sides have to administer their days in power with the understanding that anything they do to the other side, the other side can do to them (the next time the other side wins an election). The devil on one shoulder whispering "do it" must be counterbalanced by the angel on the other whispering "would I want this done to me?"

Democrats moved so far outside of that structure that it suggested they were planning to never lose another election.


Committing bad policy vigorously doesn't transmute it into good policy. When Dems eventually come in they will prosecute your prosecutors & you'll be doing the perp walk


Oso: 'dont prosecute the treasonous criminal element of our party. There will be payback.'

How about we prosecute criminals and stop lawfare on everyone else?


That's exactly what the Democrats will say when they prosecute yall


They already do.

Do you believe that is good policy?


You confuse lawfare with prosecuting criminals.

Intentionally.


What crimes did the "criminals "commit. Please be specific


Hillary suiciding everyone.
Miley informing China.
Russia hoax - everyone that ordered and carried it out.
Pelosi's millions on making 175k per year.
Election fraud (although that is probably a system change more than criminal prosecution.)

Epstein island.


These are the crimes?
What crimes did the prosecutors commit? Should they be in prison?
Someone is in prison for the Russia hoax. One guy, for making a slight edit to an email to change its meaning 180 degrees (in ways that propelled the narrative forward). The outrage is that he's the least, most minor player in the whole affair. Numerous false representations were made to a FISA court, and......poof.....no one got criminally investigated, much less prosecuted. Meanwhile, Trump was impeached twice for totally made up BS and Republicans are are getting early morning SWAT raids for process crimes.

The double standard gots to stop


Only way this flagrant double standard can end is through a thorough and complete overhaul of the federal bureaucracy beginning with the DOJ and FBI.

The courts will definitely slow Trump down. So it's vital Trump restore the economy and avoid foreign wars……so the American electorate will elect JD Vance to continue the house clean in 2028.
There is a fine line between restructuring for "efficiency" and self-benefit.

Just read an article that Musk wants DOE, NASA and DOD cut, to focus on public-private partnerships. No one else sees an issue with these guys doing away with Agency positions that control their access to Federal money? All three are Agencies that TESLA, SPACEX and his data companies had to go through for permitting and grants. So, get rid of the decision makers giving you a hard time. You have no issues here?

I bet Vivek goes after the Health field because that is where his companies have to meet Fed regulations. Used to call it the Fox guarding the Hen house, now you guys call it efficiency? Sorry, it smells just as rotten as the Libs plans.


Who better to get rid of unneeded unwanted wasteful bureaucratic Departments the people who have had the pain in dealing with them?

Sic Em
Yeah and you will be the first *****ing of corruption when it impacts you. When there are flyovers by your home or being forced into an Electric car because Elon is all about EV. You were all over the COVID vaccine, do a little research on Vivek's past and where he makes his money. Yeah, you will be the first *****ing...

Come on Big guy, let's discuss actual Agencies. How about Elon wanting to eliminate the CFBB? Look it up, it was put in place AFTER 2008 to make sure it doesn't happen again. It is basically a police for the banking industry funded through the Fed Reserve. Elon is tweeting to eliminate it. Look it up. Seem like a good idea to you. Let's start talking specifics. Name an agency, what it does and why it should be eliminated. Should be easy with all the waste, right???


Oh 'big guy' huh? I think he's on your side. Although he probably doesnt know what side he's on these days - much less where his side actually is.

I seem to have triggered you. You may want to step away from the keyboard and go choose to be happy on Thanksgiving. Nothing but misery and losing for you here.

Department of Education states all the way. Get rid of billions in bureaucracy.

Department of Energy This is the 1st one I'd get rid of.

Department of Commerce

Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) should go to State & local. Trim the Federal fat.

Department of Homeland Security privacy of US Citizens trumps government's desire to be big brother.

Internal Revenue Service (IRS) While not a department, and not something that I would prioritize this cycle, taxes in this nation need to change and the bloated armed irs needs to go away. Wait til this bad boy is politically weaponized to a massive scale.

Audit the Fed.

Audit the Military - Not against defense, but to think there aren't shenanigans going on in that massive budget is to be naive.
Assassin
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Osodecentx said:

Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

Pam Bondi, AG from Florida is the new nominee


Much better choice.


Bad policy. When the next Democrat president is elected, will his AG prosecute the prosecutors who prosecute Biden's prosecutors. Bondi'd investigators will be investigated,. Lawfare never ends this way.

Pam Bondi, Trump's AG pick, said 'prosecutors will be prosecuted'
"The prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones," Bondi declared on Fox News in 2023, soon after Trump's fourth set of criminal charges. "The investigators will be investigated."
Bondi, a former Florida state attorney general, is drawing newfound attention since President-elect Trump announced his plans to nominate her to lead the Justice Department as U.S. attorney general.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/11/23/pam-bondi-doj-attorney-general-trump-pick/

you have it precisely backasswards.

It never ends if we do not have 2-3 perp walks for the most egregious examples of lawfare.

BOTH sides have fear the other. BOTH sides have to administer their days in power with the understanding that anything they do to the other side, the other side can do to them (the next time the other side wins an election). The devil on one shoulder whispering "do it" must be counterbalanced by the angel on the other whispering "would I want this done to me?"

Democrats moved so far outside of that structure that it suggested they were planning to never lose another election.


Committing bad policy vigorously doesn't transmute it into good policy. When Dems eventually come in they will prosecute your prosecutors & you'll be doing the perp walk
Exactly how is NOT prosecuting someone who broke law because of their political affiliation bad policy?
That's exactly what Dems will say in 2029 when the Republican perp walks begin


You seem content to pretend the Dems didn't begin this garbage.


Not at all. I'd like to see it end, not escalate


However you seem more intent on blaming Republicans for preventing future assaults …..rather than recognizing how the Dems began these lawfare attacks to being with.

Republicans have to respond .
Gotta agree with Kai. There will be no end to this from the Left until our crush that enema, see them driven before us and to hear the lamentations of the View...
You aren't going to kill all Dems or left leaning independents.
You guys have 49% of the country behind you.
New Pew poll shows Trump with 53% approval today. Lefties are falling behind rapidly.
Married A Horn
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Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

Pam Bondi, AG from Florida is the new nominee


Much better choice.


Bad policy. When the next Democrat president is elected, will his AG prosecute the prosecutors who prosecute Biden's prosecutors. Bondi'd investigators will be investigated,. Lawfare never ends this way.

Pam Bondi, Trump's AG pick, said 'prosecutors will be prosecuted'
"The prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones," Bondi declared on Fox News in 2023, soon after Trump's fourth set of criminal charges. "The investigators will be investigated."
Bondi, a former Florida state attorney general, is drawing newfound attention since President-elect Trump announced his plans to nominate her to lead the Justice Department as U.S. attorney general.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/11/23/pam-bondi-doj-attorney-general-trump-pick/

you have it precisely backasswards.

It never ends if we do not have 2-3 perp walks for the most egregious examples of lawfare.

BOTH sides have fear the other. BOTH sides have to administer their days in power with the understanding that anything they do to the other side, the other side can do to them (the next time the other side wins an election). The devil on one shoulder whispering "do it" must be counterbalanced by the angel on the other whispering "would I want this done to me?"

Democrats moved so far outside of that structure that it suggested they were planning to never lose another election.


Committing bad policy vigorously doesn't transmute it into good policy. When Dems eventually come in they will prosecute your prosecutors & you'll be doing the perp walk
Exactly how is NOT prosecuting someone who broke law because of their political affiliation bad policy?
That's exactly what Dems will say in 2029 when the Republican perp walks begin


You seem content to pretend the Dems didn't begin this garbage.


Not at all. I'd like to see it end, not escalate


However you seem more intent on blaming Republicans for preventing future assaults …..rather than recognizing how the Dems began these lawfare attacks to being with.

Republicans have to respond .
I'm not blaming Republicans for future assaults, I'm just quoting them. They seem more intent on sending political opponents to prison and arguing about who won the 2020 election.

You guys have the wind at your backs and the confidence of much of the country. Don't blow it on the bright shiny objects.
Solve the border, drill baby drill, and back Musk/Vivek. Don't focus on distractions


If we just get those things accomplished, I'll be pretty happy.
FLBear5630
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Osodecentx said:

Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

Pam Bondi, AG from Florida is the new nominee


Much better choice.


Bad policy. When the next Democrat president is elected, will his AG prosecute the prosecutors who prosecute Biden's prosecutors. Bondi'd investigators will be investigated,. Lawfare never ends this way.

Pam Bondi, Trump's AG pick, said 'prosecutors will be prosecuted'
"The prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones," Bondi declared on Fox News in 2023, soon after Trump's fourth set of criminal charges. "The investigators will be investigated."
Bondi, a former Florida state attorney general, is drawing newfound attention since President-elect Trump announced his plans to nominate her to lead the Justice Department as U.S. attorney general.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/11/23/pam-bondi-doj-attorney-general-trump-pick/

you have it precisely backasswards.

It never ends if we do not have 2-3 perp walks for the most egregious examples of lawfare.

BOTH sides have fear the other. BOTH sides have to administer their days in power with the understanding that anything they do to the other side, the other side can do to them (the next time the other side wins an election). The devil on one shoulder whispering "do it" must be counterbalanced by the angel on the other whispering "would I want this done to me?"

Democrats moved so far outside of that structure that it suggested they were planning to never lose another election.


Committing bad policy vigorously doesn't transmute it into good policy. When Dems eventually come in they will prosecute your prosecutors & you'll be doing the perp walk
Exactly how is NOT prosecuting someone who broke law because of their political affiliation bad policy?
That's exactly what Dems will say in 2029 when the Republican perp walks begin


You seem content to pretend the Dems didn't begin this garbage.


Not at all. I'd like to see it end, not escalate


However you seem more intent on blaming Republicans for preventing future assaults …..rather than recognizing how the Dems began these lawfare attacks to being with.

Republicans have to respond .
Gotta agree with Kai. There will be no end to this from the Left until our crush that enema, see them driven before us and to hear the lamentations of the View...
You aren't going to kill all Dems or left leaning independents.
You guys have 49% of the country behind you.


I get the business oriented approach, but the conflict of interest needs to be watched. Gutting regs to benefit Elon because he wants to go faster or move neuralink products faster is problematic. You guys went nuts over COVID, now we are backing giving neuralink a pass?
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Assassin said:

Osodecentx said:

Assassin said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

Pam Bondi, AG from Florida is the new nominee


Much better choice.


Bad policy. When the next Democrat president is elected, will his AG prosecute the prosecutors who prosecute Biden's prosecutors. Bondi'd investigators will be investigated,. Lawfare never ends this way.

Pam Bondi, Trump's AG pick, said 'prosecutors will be prosecuted'
"The prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones," Bondi declared on Fox News in 2023, soon after Trump's fourth set of criminal charges. "The investigators will be investigated."
Bondi, a former Florida state attorney general, is drawing newfound attention since President-elect Trump announced his plans to nominate her to lead the Justice Department as U.S. attorney general.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/11/23/pam-bondi-doj-attorney-general-trump-pick/

you have it precisely backasswards.

It never ends if we do not have 2-3 perp walks for the most egregious examples of lawfare.

BOTH sides have fear the other. BOTH sides have to administer their days in power with the understanding that anything they do to the other side, the other side can do to them (the next time the other side wins an election). The devil on one shoulder whispering "do it" must be counterbalanced by the angel on the other whispering "would I want this done to me?"

Democrats moved so far outside of that structure that it suggested they were planning to never lose another election.


Committing bad policy vigorously doesn't transmute it into good policy. When Dems eventually come in they will prosecute your prosecutors & you'll be doing the perp walk
Exactly how is NOT prosecuting someone who broke law because of their political affiliation bad policy?
That's exactly what Dems will say in 2029 when the Republican perp walks begin


You seem content to pretend the Dems didn't begin this garbage.


Not at all. I'd like to see it end, not escalate


However you seem more intent on blaming Republicans for preventing future assaults …..rather than recognizing how the Dems began these lawfare attacks to being with.

Republicans have to respond .
Gotta agree with Kai. There will be no end to this from the Left until our crush that enema, see them driven before us and to hear the lamentations of the View...
You aren't going to kill all Dems or left leaning independents.
You guys have 49% of the country behind you.
New Pew poll shows Trump with 53% approval today. Lefties are falling behind rapidly.


53% won't get it done

Peace , cheaper fuel and food prices will.
Assassin
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KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

Osodecentx said:

Assassin said:

KaiBear said:





However you seem more intent on blaming Republicans for preventing future assaults …..rather than recognizing how the Dems began these lawfare attacks to being with.

Republicans have to respond .
Gotta agree with Kai. There will be no end to this from the Left until our crush that enema, see them driven before us and to hear the lamentations of the View...
You aren't going to kill all Dems or left leaning independents.
You guys have 49% of the country behind you.
New Pew poll shows Trump with 53% approval today. Lefties are falling behind rapidly.
53% won't get it done

Peace , cheaper fuel and food prices will.
It's coming. Expect continued and enhanced attacks from the MSM while the public continues the shift away from them toward Fox and other conservative stations. Expect MSNBC continue their descent, then Elon will come in and buy it for pennies on the dollar and get rid of 99.9% of the failed employees. I expect a janitor or two to stay.
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Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

Pam Bondi, AG from Florida is the new nominee


Much better choice.


Bad policy. When the next Democrat president is elected, will his AG prosecute the prosecutors who prosecute Biden's prosecutors. Bondi'd investigators will be investigated,. Lawfare never ends this way.

Pam Bondi, Trump's AG pick, said 'prosecutors will be prosecuted'
"The prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones," Bondi declared on Fox News in 2023, soon after Trump's fourth set of criminal charges. "The investigators will be investigated."
Bondi, a former Florida state attorney general, is drawing newfound attention since President-elect Trump announced his plans to nominate her to lead the Justice Department as U.S. attorney general.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/11/23/pam-bondi-doj-attorney-general-trump-pick/

you have it precisely backasswards.

It never ends if we do not have 2-3 perp walks for the most egregious examples of lawfare.

BOTH sides have fear the other. BOTH sides have to administer their days in power with the understanding that anything they do to the other side, the other side can do to them (the next time the other side wins an election). The devil on one shoulder whispering "do it" must be counterbalanced by the angel on the other whispering "would I want this done to me?"

Democrats moved so far outside of that structure that it suggested they were planning to never lose another election.


Committing bad policy vigorously doesn't transmute it into good policy. When Dems eventually come in they will prosecute your prosecutors & you'll be doing the perp walk
Exactly how is NOT prosecuting someone who broke law because of their political affiliation bad policy?
That's exactly what Dems will say in 2029 when the Republican perp walks begin


You seem content to pretend the Dems didn't begin this garbage.


Not at all. I'd like to see it end, not escalate


However you seem more intent on blaming Republicans for preventing future assaults …..rather than recognizing how the Dems began these lawfare attacks to being with.

Republicans have to respond .
I'm not blaming Republicans for future assaults, I'm just quoting them. They seem more intent on sending political opponents to prison and arguing about who won the 2020 election.

You guys have the wind at your backs and the confidence of much of the country. Don't blow it on the bright shiny objects.
Solve the border, drill baby drill, and back Musk/Vivek. Don't focus on distractions


If we just get those things accomplished, I'll be pretty happy.


Me too
Why do retribution?
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Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

Pam Bondi, AG from Florida is the new nominee


Much better choice.


Bad policy. When the next Democrat president is elected, will his AG prosecute the prosecutors who prosecute Biden's prosecutors. Bondi'd investigators will be investigated,. Lawfare never ends this way.

Pam Bondi, Trump's AG pick, said 'prosecutors will be prosecuted'
"The prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones," Bondi declared on Fox News in 2023, soon after Trump's fourth set of criminal charges. "The investigators will be investigated."
Bondi, a former Florida state attorney general, is drawing newfound attention since President-elect Trump announced his plans to nominate her to lead the Justice Department as U.S. attorney general.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/11/23/pam-bondi-doj-attorney-general-trump-pick/

you have it precisely backasswards.

It never ends if we do not have 2-3 perp walks for the most egregious examples of lawfare.

BOTH sides have fear the other. BOTH sides have to administer their days in power with the understanding that anything they do to the other side, the other side can do to them (the next time the other side wins an election). The devil on one shoulder whispering "do it" must be counterbalanced by the angel on the other whispering "would I want this done to me?"

Democrats moved so far outside of that structure that it suggested they were planning to never lose another election.


Committing bad policy vigorously doesn't transmute it into good policy. When Dems eventually come in they will prosecute your prosecutors & you'll be doing the perp walk
Exactly how is NOT prosecuting someone who broke law because of their political affiliation bad policy?
That's exactly what Dems will say in 2029 when the Republican perp walks begin


You seem content to pretend the Dems didn't begin this garbage.


Not at all. I'd like to see it end, not escalate


However you seem more intent on blaming Republicans for preventing future assaults …..rather than recognizing how the Dems began these lawfare attacks to being with.

Republicans have to respond .
I'm not blaming Republicans for future assaults, I'm just quoting them. They seem more intent on sending political opponents to prison and arguing about who won the 2020 election.

You guys have the wind at your backs and the confidence of much of the country. Don't blow it on the bright shiny objects.
Solve the border, drill baby drill, and back Musk/Vivek. Don't focus on distractions


If we just get those things accomplished, I'll be pretty happy.


Me too
Why do retribution?


To stop it from happening again. Its not retribution or revenge... its justice with deterrents.
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Married A Horn said:

FLBear5630 said:

Married A Horn said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

Pam Bondi, AG from Florida is the new nominee


Much better choice.


Bad policy. When the next Democrat president is elected, will his AG prosecute the prosecutors who prosecute Biden's prosecutors. Bondi'd investigators will be investigated,. Lawfare never ends this way.

Pam Bondi, Trump's AG pick, said 'prosecutors will be prosecuted'
"The prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones," Bondi declared on Fox News in 2023, soon after Trump's fourth set of criminal charges. "The investigators will be investigated."
Bondi, a former Florida state attorney general, is drawing newfound attention since President-elect Trump announced his plans to nominate her to lead the Justice Department as U.S. attorney general.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/11/23/pam-bondi-doj-attorney-general-trump-pick/

you have it precisely backasswards.

It never ends if we do not have 2-3 perp walks for the most egregious examples of lawfare.

BOTH sides have fear the other. BOTH sides have to administer their days in power with the understanding that anything they do to the other side, the other side can do to them (the next time the other side wins an election). The devil on one shoulder whispering "do it" must be counterbalanced by the angel on the other whispering "would I want this done to me?"

Democrats moved so far outside of that structure that it suggested they were planning to never lose another election.


Committing bad policy vigorously doesn't transmute it into good policy. When Dems eventually come in they will prosecute your prosecutors & you'll be doing the perp walk


Oso: 'dont prosecute the treasonous criminal element of our party. There will be payback.'

How about we prosecute criminals and stop lawfare on everyone else?


That's exactly what the Democrats will say when they prosecute yall


They already do.

Do you believe that is good policy?


You confuse lawfare with prosecuting criminals.

Intentionally.


What crimes did the "criminals "commit. Please be specific


Hillary suiciding everyone.
Miley informing China.
Russia hoax - everyone that ordered and carried it out.
Pelosi's millions on making 175k per year.
Election fraud (although that is probably a system change more than criminal prosecution.)

Epstein island.


These are the crimes?
What crimes did the prosecutors commit? Should they be in prison?
Someone is in prison for the Russia hoax. One guy, for making a slight edit to an email to change its meaning 180 degrees (in ways that propelled the narrative forward). The outrage is that he's the least, most minor player in the whole affair. Numerous false representations were made to a FISA court, and......poof.....no one got criminally investigated, much less prosecuted. Meanwhile, Trump was impeached twice for totally made up BS and Republicans are are getting early morning SWAT raids for process crimes.

The double standard gots to stop


Only way this flagrant double standard can end is through a thorough and complete overhaul of the federal bureaucracy beginning with the DOJ and FBI.

The courts will definitely slow Trump down. So it's vital Trump restore the economy and avoid foreign wars……so the American electorate will elect JD Vance to continue the house clean in 2028.
There is a fine line between restructuring for "efficiency" and self-benefit.

Just read an article that Musk wants DOE, NASA and DOD cut, to focus on public-private partnerships. No one else sees an issue with these guys doing away with Agency positions that control their access to Federal money? All three are Agencies that TESLA, SPACEX and his data companies had to go through for permitting and grants. So, get rid of the decision makers giving you a hard time. You have no issues here?

I bet Vivek goes after the Health field because that is where his companies have to meet Fed regulations. Used to call it the Fox guarding the Hen house, now you guys call it efficiency? Sorry, it smells just as rotten as the Libs plans.


Who better to get rid of unneeded unwanted wasteful bureaucratic Departments the people who have had the pain in dealing with them?

Sic Em
Yeah and you will be the first *****ing of corruption when it impacts you. When there are flyovers by your home or being forced into an Electric car because Elon is all about EV. You were all over the COVID vaccine, do a little research on Vivek's past and where he makes his money. Yeah, you will be the first *****ing...

Come on Big guy, let's discuss actual Agencies. How about Elon wanting to eliminate the CFBB? Look it up, it was put in place AFTER 2008 to make sure it doesn't happen again. It is basically a police for the banking industry funded through the Fed Reserve. Elon is tweeting to eliminate it. Look it up. Seem like a good idea to you. Let's start talking specifics. Name an agency, what it does and why it should be eliminated. Should be easy with all the waste, right???


Oh 'big guy' huh? I think he's on your side. Although he probably doesnt know what side he's on these days - much less where his side actually is.

I seem to have triggered you. You may want to step away from the keyboard and go choose to be happy on Thanksgiving. Nothing but misery and losing for you here.

Department of Education states all the way. Get rid of billions in bureaucracy.

Department of Energy This is the 1st one I'd get rid of.

Department of Commerce

Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) should go to State & local. Trim the Federal fat.

Department of Homeland Security privacy of US Citizens trumps government's desire to be big brother.

Internal Revenue Service (IRS) While not a department, and not something that I would prioritize this cycle, taxes in this nation need to change and the bloated armed irs needs to go away. Wait til this bad boy is politically weaponized to a massive scale.

Audit the Fed.

Audit the Military - Not against defense, but to think there aren't shenanigans going on in that massive budget is to be naive.


Add: totally leaving the UN. That may actually be the 1st thing I'd go for. But I think I've heard that may take congressional approval.

How much do we spend on that thing whose only goal is to curb the U.S.?
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Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

Pam Bondi, AG from Florida is the new nominee


Much better choice.


Bad policy. When the next Democrat president is elected, will his AG prosecute the prosecutors who prosecute Biden's prosecutors. Bondi'd investigators will be investigated,. Lawfare never ends this way.

Pam Bondi, Trump's AG pick, said 'prosecutors will be prosecuted'
"The prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones," Bondi declared on Fox News in 2023, soon after Trump's fourth set of criminal charges. "The investigators will be investigated."
Bondi, a former Florida state attorney general, is drawing newfound attention since President-elect Trump announced his plans to nominate her to lead the Justice Department as U.S. attorney general.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/11/23/pam-bondi-doj-attorney-general-trump-pick/

you have it precisely backasswards.

It never ends if we do not have 2-3 perp walks for the most egregious examples of lawfare.

BOTH sides have fear the other. BOTH sides have to administer their days in power with the understanding that anything they do to the other side, the other side can do to them (the next time the other side wins an election). The devil on one shoulder whispering "do it" must be counterbalanced by the angel on the other whispering "would I want this done to me?"

Democrats moved so far outside of that structure that it suggested they were planning to never lose another election.


Committing bad policy vigorously doesn't transmute it into good policy. When Dems eventually come in they will prosecute your prosecutors & you'll be doing the perp walk
Exactly how is NOT prosecuting someone who broke law because of their political affiliation bad policy?
That's exactly what Dems will say in 2029 when the Republican perp walks begin


You seem content to pretend the Dems didn't begin this garbage.


Not at all. I'd like to see it end, not escalate


However you seem more intent on blaming Republicans for preventing future assaults …..rather than recognizing how the Dems began these lawfare attacks to being with.

Republicans have to respond .
I'm not blaming Republicans for future assaults, I'm just quoting them. They seem more intent on sending political opponents to prison and arguing about who won the 2020 election.

You guys have the wind at your backs and the confidence of much of the country. Don't blow it on the bright shiny objects.
Solve the border, drill baby drill, and back Musk/Vivek. Don't focus on distractions


If we just get those things accomplished, I'll be pretty happy.


Me too
Why do retribution?


To stop it from happening again. Its not retribution or revenge... its justice with deterrents.


It's a distraction
It won't deter, it will inspire Dems to seek retribution
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Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

Pam Bondi, AG from Florida is the new nominee


Much better choice.


Bad policy. When the next Democrat president is elected, will his AG prosecute the prosecutors who prosecute Biden's prosecutors. Bondi'd investigators will be investigated,. Lawfare never ends this way.

Pam Bondi, Trump's AG pick, said 'prosecutors will be prosecuted'
"The prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones," Bondi declared on Fox News in 2023, soon after Trump's fourth set of criminal charges. "The investigators will be investigated."
Bondi, a former Florida state attorney general, is drawing newfound attention since President-elect Trump announced his plans to nominate her to lead the Justice Department as U.S. attorney general.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/11/23/pam-bondi-doj-attorney-general-trump-pick/

you have it precisely backasswards.

It never ends if we do not have 2-3 perp walks for the most egregious examples of lawfare.

BOTH sides have fear the other. BOTH sides have to administer their days in power with the understanding that anything they do to the other side, the other side can do to them (the next time the other side wins an election). The devil on one shoulder whispering "do it" must be counterbalanced by the angel on the other whispering "would I want this done to me?"

Democrats moved so far outside of that structure that it suggested they were planning to never lose another election.


Committing bad policy vigorously doesn't transmute it into good policy. When Dems eventually come in they will prosecute your prosecutors & you'll be doing the perp walk
Exactly how is NOT prosecuting someone who broke law because of their political affiliation bad policy?
That's exactly what Dems will say in 2029 when the Republican perp walks begin


You seem content to pretend the Dems didn't begin this garbage.


Not at all. I'd like to see it end, not escalate


However you seem more intent on blaming Republicans for preventing future assaults …..rather than recognizing how the Dems began these lawfare attacks to being with.

Republicans have to respond .
I'm not blaming Republicans for future assaults, I'm just quoting them. They seem more intent on sending political opponents to prison and arguing about who won the 2020 election.

You guys have the wind at your backs and the confidence of much of the country. Don't blow it on the bright shiny objects.
Solve the border, drill baby drill, and back Musk/Vivek. Don't focus on distractions


If we just get those things accomplished, I'll be pretty happy.


Me too
Why do retribution?


To stop it from happening again. Its not retribution or revenge... its justice with deterrents.


It's a distraction
It won't deter, it will inspire Dems to seek retribution



We just disagree. We'll have to wait and see how it all plays out.
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Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

Pam Bondi, AG from Florida is the new nominee


Much better choice.


Bad policy. When the next Democrat president is elected, will his AG prosecute the prosecutors who prosecute Biden's prosecutors. Bondi'd investigators will be investigated,. Lawfare never ends this way.

Pam Bondi, Trump's AG pick, said 'prosecutors will be prosecuted'
"The prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones," Bondi declared on Fox News in 2023, soon after Trump's fourth set of criminal charges. "The investigators will be investigated."
Bondi, a former Florida state attorney general, is drawing newfound attention since President-elect Trump announced his plans to nominate her to lead the Justice Department as U.S. attorney general.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/11/23/pam-bondi-doj-attorney-general-trump-pick/

you have it precisely backasswards.

It never ends if we do not have 2-3 perp walks for the most egregious examples of lawfare.

BOTH sides have fear the other. BOTH sides have to administer their days in power with the understanding that anything they do to the other side, the other side can do to them (the next time the other side wins an election). The devil on one shoulder whispering "do it" must be counterbalanced by the angel on the other whispering "would I want this done to me?"

Democrats moved so far outside of that structure that it suggested they were planning to never lose another election.


Committing bad policy vigorously doesn't transmute it into good policy. When Dems eventually come in they will prosecute your prosecutors & you'll be doing the perp walk
Exactly how is NOT prosecuting someone who broke law because of their political affiliation bad policy?
That's exactly what Dems will say in 2029 when the Republican perp walks begin


You seem content to pretend the Dems didn't begin this garbage.


Not at all. I'd like to see it end, not escalate


However you seem more intent on blaming Republicans for preventing future assaults …..rather than recognizing how the Dems began these lawfare attacks to being with.

Republicans have to respond .
I'm not blaming Republicans for future assaults, I'm just quoting them. They seem more intent on sending political opponents to prison and arguing about who won the 2020 election.

You guys have the wind at your backs and the confidence of much of the country. Don't blow it on the bright shiny objects.
Solve the border, drill baby drill, and back Musk/Vivek. Don't focus on distractions


If we just get those things accomplished, I'll be pretty happy.


Me too
Why do retribution?


To stop it from happening again. Its not retribution or revenge... its justice with deterrents.


It's a distraction
It won't deter, it will inspire Dems to seek retribution



We just disagree. We'll have to wait and see how it all plays out.


Yep
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Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

Pam Bondi, AG from Florida is the new nominee


Much better choice.


Bad policy. When the next Democrat president is elected, will his AG prosecute the prosecutors who prosecute Biden's prosecutors. Bondi'd investigators will be investigated,. Lawfare never ends this way.

Pam Bondi, Trump's AG pick, said 'prosecutors will be prosecuted'
"The prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones," Bondi declared on Fox News in 2023, soon after Trump's fourth set of criminal charges. "The investigators will be investigated."
Bondi, a former Florida state attorney general, is drawing newfound attention since President-elect Trump announced his plans to nominate her to lead the Justice Department as U.S. attorney general.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/11/23/pam-bondi-doj-attorney-general-trump-pick/

you have it precisely backasswards.

It never ends if we do not have 2-3 perp walks for the most egregious examples of lawfare.

BOTH sides have fear the other. BOTH sides have to administer their days in power with the understanding that anything they do to the other side, the other side can do to them (the next time the other side wins an election). The devil on one shoulder whispering "do it" must be counterbalanced by the angel on the other whispering "would I want this done to me?"

Democrats moved so far outside of that structure that it suggested they were planning to never lose another election.


Committing bad policy vigorously doesn't transmute it into good policy. When Dems eventually come in they will prosecute your prosecutors & you'll be doing the perp walk


Oso: 'dont prosecute the treasonous criminal element of our party. There will be payback.'

How about we prosecute criminals and stop lawfare on everyone else?


That's exactly what the Democrats will say when they prosecute yall
Oso conveniently ignores that Democrats have abused the law to attack their enemies without an actual crime being committed.

This only stops when the Democrats are made to understand they will face consequences for this crap.
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Married A Horn said:

Married A Horn said:

FLBear5630 said:

Married A Horn said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Assassin said:

Pam Bondi, AG from Florida is the new nominee


Much better choice.


Bad policy. When the next Democrat president is elected, will his AG prosecute the prosecutors who prosecute Biden's prosecutors. Bondi'd investigators will be investigated,. Lawfare never ends this way.

Pam Bondi, Trump's AG pick, said 'prosecutors will be prosecuted'
"The prosecutors will be prosecuted, the bad ones," Bondi declared on Fox News in 2023, soon after Trump's fourth set of criminal charges. "The investigators will be investigated."
Bondi, a former Florida state attorney general, is drawing newfound attention since President-elect Trump announced his plans to nominate her to lead the Justice Department as U.S. attorney general.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/11/23/pam-bondi-doj-attorney-general-trump-pick/

you have it precisely backasswards.

It never ends if we do not have 2-3 perp walks for the most egregious examples of lawfare.

BOTH sides have fear the other. BOTH sides have to administer their days in power with the understanding that anything they do to the other side, the other side can do to them (the next time the other side wins an election). The devil on one shoulder whispering "do it" must be counterbalanced by the angel on the other whispering "would I want this done to me?"

Democrats moved so far outside of that structure that it suggested they were planning to never lose another election.


Committing bad policy vigorously doesn't transmute it into good policy. When Dems eventually come in they will prosecute your prosecutors & you'll be doing the perp walk


Oso: 'dont prosecute the treasonous criminal element of our party. There will be payback.'

How about we prosecute criminals and stop lawfare on everyone else?


That's exactly what the Democrats will say when they prosecute yall


They already do.

Do you believe that is good policy?


You confuse lawfare with prosecuting criminals.

Intentionally.


What crimes did the "criminals "commit. Please be specific


Hillary suiciding everyone.
Miley informing China.
Russia hoax - everyone that ordered and carried it out.
Pelosi's millions on making 175k per year.
Election fraud (although that is probably a system change more than criminal prosecution.)

Epstein island.


These are the crimes?
What crimes did the prosecutors commit? Should they be in prison?
Someone is in prison for the Russia hoax. One guy, for making a slight edit to an email to change its meaning 180 degrees (in ways that propelled the narrative forward). The outrage is that he's the least, most minor player in the whole affair. Numerous false representations were made to a FISA court, and......poof.....no one got criminally investigated, much less prosecuted. Meanwhile, Trump was impeached twice for totally made up BS and Republicans are are getting early morning SWAT raids for process crimes.

The double standard gots to stop


Only way this flagrant double standard can end is through a thorough and complete overhaul of the federal bureaucracy beginning with the DOJ and FBI.

The courts will definitely slow Trump down. So it's vital Trump restore the economy and avoid foreign wars……so the American electorate will elect JD Vance to continue the house clean in 2028.
There is a fine line between restructuring for "efficiency" and self-benefit.

Just read an article that Musk wants DOE, NASA and DOD cut, to focus on public-private partnerships. No one else sees an issue with these guys doing away with Agency positions that control their access to Federal money? All three are Agencies that TESLA, SPACEX and his data companies had to go through for permitting and grants. So, get rid of the decision makers giving you a hard time. You have no issues here?

I bet Vivek goes after the Health field because that is where his companies have to meet Fed regulations. Used to call it the Fox guarding the Hen house, now you guys call it efficiency? Sorry, it smells just as rotten as the Libs plans.


Who better to get rid of unneeded unwanted wasteful bureaucratic Departments the people who have had the pain in dealing with them?

Sic Em
Yeah and you will be the first *****ing of corruption when it impacts you. When there are flyovers by your home or being forced into an Electric car because Elon is all about EV. You were all over the COVID vaccine, do a little research on Vivek's past and where he makes his money. Yeah, you will be the first *****ing...

Come on Big guy, let's discuss actual Agencies. How about Elon wanting to eliminate the CFBB? Look it up, it was put in place AFTER 2008 to make sure it doesn't happen again. It is basically a police for the banking industry funded through the Fed Reserve. Elon is tweeting to eliminate it. Look it up. Seem like a good idea to you. Let's start talking specifics. Name an agency, what it does and why it should be eliminated. Should be easy with all the waste, right???


Oh 'big guy' huh? I think he's on your side. Although he probably doesnt know what side he's on these days - much less where his side actually is.

I seem to have triggered you. You may want to step away from the keyboard and go choose to be happy on Thanksgiving. Nothing but misery and losing for you here.

Department of Education states all the way. Get rid of billions in bureaucracy.

Department of Energy This is the 1st one I'd get rid of.

Department of Commerce

Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) should go to State & local. Trim the Federal fat.

Department of Homeland Security privacy of US Citizens trumps government's desire to be big brother.

Internal Revenue Service (IRS) While not a department, and not something that I would prioritize this cycle, taxes in this nation need to change and the bloated armed irs needs to go away. Wait til this bad boy is politically weaponized to a massive scale.

Audit the Fed.

Audit the Military - Not against defense, but to think there aren't shenanigans going on in that massive budget is to be naive.


Add: totally leaving the UN. That may actually be the 1st thing I'd go for. But I think I've heard that may take congressional approval.

How much do we spend on that thing whose only goal is to curb the U.S.?


I'll go there. Not a UN fan at all. Get the Sharpie, let's see how many we can meet in the middle. Thank you for providing real example and not hyperbole.
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those agencies regulating Tesla and SpaceX have people who should be criminally investigated and at minimum separated from service over abuse of office. Shortly after Musk announced his offer for Twitter, an alphabet soup of federal regulators launched investigations of Elon Musk, his offer, and his companies. It was one of the most blatant partisan abuse of office imaginable....a clear shot across his bow to back off or else.

That's why he and so many others of his type joined up with Trump. It wasn't an endorsement of MAGA. It was a sober recognition that the Republic had been corrupted by partisanship. And it most certainly has been.
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leaving the UN would be the more profound mistakes imaginable. It would become a wholly owned subsidiary of Russia & China. It would be used to organize the whole world against us.

The only prudent exit from the UN involves leaving behind a smoking pile of rubble. If you can't kill it, you have to stay and keep it tame.
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Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:


Exactly how is NOT prosecuting someone who broke law because of their political affiliation bad policy?
That's exactly what Dems will say in 2029 when the Republican perp walks begin


You seem content to pretend the Dems didn't begin this garbage.


Not at all. I'd like to see it end, not escalate


However you seem more intent on blaming Republicans for preventing future assaults …..rather than recognizing how the Dems began these lawfare attacks to being with.

Republicans have to respond .
I'm not blaming Republicans for future assaults, I'm just quoting them. They seem more intent on sending political opponents to prison and arguing about who won the 2020 election.

You guys have the wind at your backs and the confidence of much of the country. Don't blow it on the bright shiny objects.
Solve the border, drill baby drill, and back Musk/Vivek. Don't focus on distractions


If we just get those things accomplished, I'll be pretty happy.


Me too
Why do retribution?


To stop it from happening again. Its not retribution or revenge... its justice with deterrents.


It's a distraction
It won't deter, it will inspire Dems to seek retribution

The only thing worse is doing nothing. That will only convince Democrats what they did to Trump was morally right. They will resume and double down next time they're in office.

We have to investigate to find a handful of the most egregious abuses and make examples of them. We have to instill risk/reward for partisan gamesmanship in bureaucracy.

FEMA would be a very good place to look. We have a fired bureaucrat alleging written guidance that FEMA workers were to avoid interacting with Trump supporters. 1-3 people should be fried for that.

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whiterock said:

those agencies regulating Tesla and SpaceX have people who should be criminally investigated and at minimum separated from service over abuse of office. Shortly after Musk announced his offer for Twitter, an alphabet soup of federal regulators launched investigations of Elon Musk, his offer, and his companies. It was one of the most blatant partisan abuse of office imaginable....a clear shot across his bow to back off or else.

That's why he and so many others of his type joined up with Trump. It wasn't an endorsement of MAGA. It was a sober recognition that the Republic had been corrupted by partisanship. And it most certainly has been.


Once again you guys compartmentalize to politics. You think Twitter is Musks end game? This is about space and energy, dictating the future direction, in this case for his benefit.

His space regulatory issues are more than political gamesmanship. Talk to the FAA and the unauthorized flights over residential areas. You say I am against Trump, which I am not, but are willing to give who you see worthy a pass. Sorry, when launching a rocket over residential areas the FAA needs to be involved. You and Musk want Carte Blanche to do whatever he wants, wherever he wants, when he wants it or you are a liberal Democrat waging war on poor mind-his-own business, only wants the well being of man Elon Musk. (Who single handily has us on an EV path and played a huge role in Bidens EV policies. ) Talk to the hydrogen people about Musk...
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whiterock said:


Exactly how is NOT prosecuting someone who broke law because of their political affiliation bad policy?
That's exactly what Dems will say in 2029 when the Republican perp walks begin


You seem content to pretend the Dems didn't begin this garbage.


Not at all. I'd like to see it end, not escalate


However you seem more intent on blaming Republicans for preventing future assaults …..rather than recognizing how the Dems began these lawfare attacks to being with.

Republicans have to respond .
I'm not blaming Republicans for future assaults, I'm just quoting them. They seem more intent on sending political opponents to prison and arguing about who won the 2020 election.

You guys have the wind at your backs and the confidence of much of the country. Don't blow it on the bright shiny objects.
Solve the border, drill baby drill, and back Musk/Vivek. Don't focus on distractions


If we just get those things accomplished, I'll be pretty happy.


Me too
Why do retribution?


To stop it from happening again. Its not retribution or revenge... its justice with deterrents.


It's a distraction
It won't deter, it will inspire Dems to seek retribution

The only thing worse is doing nothing. That will only convince Democrats what they did to Trump was morally right. They will resume and double down next time they're in office.

We have to investigate to find a handful of the most egregious abuses and make examples of them. We have to instill risk/reward for partisan gamesmanship in bureaucracy.

FEMA would be a very good place to look. We have a fired bureaucrat alleging written guidance that FEMA workers were to avoid interacting with Trump supporters. 1-3 people should be fried for that.




It was bad policy when Dems did it to Trump & it's bad policy if Republicans do it to Democrats
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Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:


Exactly how is NOT prosecuting someone who broke law because of their political affiliation bad policy?
That's exactly what Dems will say in 2029 when the Republican perp walks begin


You seem content to pretend the Dems didn't begin this garbage.


Not at all. I'd like to see it end, not escalate


However you seem more intent on blaming Republicans for preventing future assaults …..rather than recognizing how the Dems began these lawfare attacks to being with.

Republicans have to respond .
I'm not blaming Republicans for future assaults, I'm just quoting them. They seem more intent on sending political opponents to prison and arguing about who won the 2020 election.

You guys have the wind at your backs and the confidence of much of the country. Don't blow it on the bright shiny objects.
Solve the border, drill baby drill, and back Musk/Vivek. Don't focus on distractions


If we just get those things accomplished, I'll be pretty happy.


Me too
Why do retribution?


To stop it from happening again. Its not retribution or revenge... its justice with deterrents.


It's a distraction
It won't deter, it will inspire Dems to seek retribution

The only thing worse is doing nothing. That will only convince Democrats what they did to Trump was morally right. They will resume and double down next time they're in office.

We have to investigate to find a handful of the most egregious abuses and make examples of them. We have to instill risk/reward for partisan gamesmanship in bureaucracy.

FEMA would be a very good place to look. We have a fired bureaucrat alleging written guidance that FEMA workers were to avoid interacting with Trump supporters. 1-3 people should be fried for that.




It was bad policy when Dems did it to Trump & it's bad policy if Republicans do it to Democrats
so when they went after him for nonsense where they had to change the laws or attempt to use never before done prosecution tactics it was bad but when gop goes after actual crimes its also bad?
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whiterock said:

leaving the UN would be the more profound mistakes imaginable. It would become a wholly owned subsidiary of Russia & China. It would be used to organize the whole world against us.

The only prudent exit from the UN involves leaving behind a smoking pile of rubble. If you can't kill it, you have to stay and keep it tame.


Ok... can u address the $ part of the UN?

If we left and took our $, wouldnt it crumble or at the very least lose its teeth?
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whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:


Exactly how is NOT prosecuting someone who broke law because of their political affiliation bad policy?
That's exactly what Dems will say in 2029 when the Republican perp walks begin


You seem content to pretend the Dems didn't begin this garbage.


Not at all. I'd like to see it end, not escalate


However you seem more intent on blaming Republicans for preventing future assaults …..rather than recognizing how the Dems began these lawfare attacks to being with.

Republicans have to respond .
I'm not blaming Republicans for future assaults, I'm just quoting them. They seem more intent on sending political opponents to prison and arguing about who won the 2020 election.

You guys have the wind at your backs and the confidence of much of the country. Don't blow it on the bright shiny objects.
Solve the border, drill baby drill, and back Musk/Vivek. Don't focus on distractions


If we just get those things accomplished, I'll be pretty happy.


Me too
Why do retribution?


To stop it from happening again. Its not retribution or revenge... its justice with deterrents.


It's a distraction
It won't deter, it will inspire Dems to seek retribution

The only thing worse is doing nothing. That will only convince Democrats what they did to Trump was morally right. They will resume and double down next time they're in office.

We have to investigate to find a handful of the most egregious abuses and make examples of them. We have to instill risk/reward for partisan gamesmanship in bureaucracy.

FEMA would be a very good place to look. We have a fired bureaucrat alleging written guidance that FEMA workers were to avoid interacting with Trump supporters. 1-3 people should be fried for that.



Fired & prosecuted
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4th and Inches said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

Married A Horn said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

KaiBear said:

Osodecentx said:

whiterock said:


Exactly how is NOT prosecuting someone who broke law because of their political affiliation bad policy?
That's exactly what Dems will say in 2029 when the Republican perp walks begin


You seem content to pretend the Dems didn't begin this garbage.


Not at all. I'd like to see it end, not escalate


However you seem more intent on blaming Republicans for preventing future assaults …..rather than recognizing how the Dems began these lawfare attacks to being with.

Republicans have to respond .
I'm not blaming Republicans for future assaults, I'm just quoting them. They seem more intent on sending political opponents to prison and arguing about who won the 2020 election.

You guys have the wind at your backs and the confidence of much of the country. Don't blow it on the bright shiny objects.
Solve the border, drill baby drill, and back Musk/Vivek. Don't focus on distractions


If we just get those things accomplished, I'll be pretty happy.


Me too
Why do retribution?


To stop it from happening again. Its not retribution or revenge... its justice with deterrents.


It's a distraction
It won't deter, it will inspire Dems to seek retribution

The only thing worse is doing nothing. That will only convince Democrats what they did to Trump was morally right. They will resume and double down next time they're in office.

We have to investigate to find a handful of the most egregious abuses and make examples of them. We have to instill risk/reward for partisan gamesmanship in bureaucracy.

FEMA would be a very good place to look. We have a fired bureaucrat alleging written guidance that FEMA workers were to avoid interacting with Trump supporters. 1-3 people should be fried for that.




It was bad policy when Dems did it to Trump & it's bad policy if Republicans do it to Democrats
so when they went after him for nonsense where they had to change the laws or attempt to use never before done prosecution tactics it was bad but when gop goes after actual crimes its also bad?


Yes, bad policy
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We should remain in the UN if only for the veto. But we should withhold all funds until major reforms are enacted:

-investigate & punish all criminals in the organization & its affiliates
-no human rights abusing nations as members of UN human rights organizations
-no measures actively targeting the U.S. or U.S. interests
-no support of any kind for terrorist organizations
-apologies & restitution for all the actions that were blatantly anti-Israel
-restore Taiwan's position as a full & equal member; maybe include a seat on the security council
-no support for the trans cult or other forms of perversion
-real & serious action to stop human trafficking, sex slavery, & pedophilia. Should never be tolerated.
-zealously combat all forms of slavery
-curtail or end all support for the radical climate cult & their agenda
etc

I'm sure if we thought about it we could add several items to this list.
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Married A Horn said:

whiterock said:

leaving the UN would be the more profound mistakes imaginable. It would become a wholly owned subsidiary of Russia & China. It would be used to organize the whole world against us.

The only prudent exit from the UN involves leaving behind a smoking pile of rubble. If you can't kill it, you have to stay and keep it tame.


Ok... can u address the $ part of the UN?

If we left and took our $, wouldnt it crumble or at the very least lose its teeth?
This is one where Married and I agree. Cut the funding, keep the presence and stay in. But this funding the world so they can use it against us, I am done with that. This is different than supporting Allies or even helping a Ukraine stay free (A nation that clearly wants to align with us). This is in the World Health Org and UNHRC. Stay in, but just be members. No more funding organizations that work against the US, our money needs to serve US interests.
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My point is in my not very educated opinion on the UN: if the US pulls out and takes their $$$ with them - the thing will completely collapse and die.
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Probably but no guarantees. In the mean time they can do a lot of harm to the US & everyone else.
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historian said:

Probably but no guarantees. In the mean time they can do a lot of harm to the US & everyone else.


There is a difference between being a member and finding everything. Be a member, have a seat at the table but don't fund more than the minimum.
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I think the US should cut off all funding until minimal reforms are implemented.
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historian said:

I think the US should cut off all funding until minimal reforms are implemented.


I get your point, but in practice maintaining membership and seat will have to be enough. NATO is a great example, he got them to step up and pay more, but US stayed active. Great model.
Question is will he have the time and energy for all this? He has 2 years of time certain, than it is a crap shoot. He needs to fix border. Get that done, he will be successful
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FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

those agencies regulating Tesla and SpaceX have people who should be criminally investigated and at minimum separated from service over abuse of office. Shortly after Musk announced his offer for Twitter, an alphabet soup of federal regulators launched investigations of Elon Musk, his offer, and his companies. It was one of the most blatant partisan abuse of office imaginable....a clear shot across his bow to back off or else.

That's why he and so many others of his type joined up with Trump. It wasn't an endorsement of MAGA. It was a sober recognition that the Republic had been corrupted by partisanship. And it most certainly has been.


Once again you guys compartmentalize to politics. You think Twitter is Musks end game? This is about space and energy, dictating the future direction, in this case for his benefit.

His space regulatory issues are more than political gamesmanship. Talk to the FAA and the unauthorized flights over residential areas. You say I am against Trump, which I am not, but are willing to give who you see worthy a pass. Sorry, when launching a rocket over residential areas the FAA needs to be involved. You and Musk want Carte Blanche to do whatever he wants, wherever he wants, when he wants it or you are a liberal Democrat waging war on poor mind-his-own business, only wants the well being of man Elon Musk. (Who single handily has us on an EV path and played a huge role in Bidens EV policies. ) Talk to the hydrogen people about Musk...
Non responsive. And in a way reinforces my point = Elon was a golden boy who could do no wrong as long as he was pulling his wagon in the Democrat train? But then he steps out of his lane? Boom. He's investigated on multiple levels. It's wrong. And he's not the only one to get such treatment. Look at Mark Andressen's comments on debanking. Hell, Melania and Barron Trump were debanked! Is that the kind of country you want to live in? "Don't get in the way of Democrat policy or you & yours will get debanked." Eff that, dude. That kinda stuff cannot stand in a free society. It cannot be tolerated, period. It's tyranny. You have to lop off fingers and digits when it happens or it seeps all the way into your own living room.

Elon is quite a bit more nuanced on EVs than you suggest. He's stated publicly they're not for everyone and has made comments supportive of backing off on subsidies.

Take a gander at what Soros is doing.
Elon is a badly needed counter-balance.

 
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