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Well, if RFK pulls vaccines off the market and turns the US into a third-world cesspool of disease, at least we will have beaten the trans activists at their own game.

Totally worth it!

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Your buddies Biden & Harris have already begun doing that by welcoming in millions of illegals liens. TB & other diseases are way up in the US because of it.

Secondly, RFK is not opposed to all vaxes, only to the experimental kind with inadequate testing & unknown side effects. That's reasonable.

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Americans aren't making babies, so we need immigrants to support our economy.

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The United States already LEADS the WORLD in legal immigration.

Millions of unskilled, undereducated, and in many cases violent; unvetted individuals is not a benefit to any economy.

And only those residing in some kind of insulated environment would believe otherwise.

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I'm not insulated from the problems it causes for a segment of our citizen population. Or at least I'm not unaware of it. It is an overall economic benefit nonetheless. That's the dilemma.

What we need to do is increase legal immigration and streamline the process so we can get more vetted immigrants into the country. But how many people are supporting that?

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Come on Sam. The cost of ILLEGALS in this country is staggering. There is no way it can be spun to be an economic and certainly not a MORAL victory. These are criminals who take jobs away from LEGAL immigrants and US citizens. These are rapists and murderers. They force us to fund ICE and massive Border Patrol. But most of all, every single one of them are CRMINALS

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You forgot:
They dont pay taxes
They send $$ back home
They dont pay for school (and overcrowd them)
They dont pay for healthcare (and overcrowd the ER)
They dont pay for food
They inflate housing costs

Sam is lying yet again. He knows it.

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They pay for food. They pay taxes. They pay ten times as much into Social Security as they cost for education (and if we don't want them to have free education the courts can change the law).

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Mind showing where you are getting your info from?

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I assume we can agree they pay for food. See below regarding education and Social Security. They also pay at least $3 billion a year into Medicare.

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The growing number of immigrant students increases the costs to school districts, but by exactly how much per school is not known. The conservative Heritage Foundation claims the cost is about US$2 billion per year, but it didn't break down the cost by the legality of immigration status.

While critics of public education for all focus on cost, the benefits of immigration cannot be ignored. Undocumented immigrants contribute an estimated $13 billion to Social Security contributions they make through payroll taxes when they use a fake Social Security number or someone else's to get a job.

https://theconversation.com/after-more-than-40-years-the-federal-right-to-free-education-for-immigrant-students-finds-itself-in-the-crosshairs-of-conservatives-231360

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Illegals aren't paying much for food if they are on govt assistance programs.

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They are barred from most forms of welfare, but they do benefit to a great extent because their children are eligible and the system is designed to help low-income families with children. Remember that's what we were talking about -- immigrants having children to make up for our low birth rates.

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Or just stop killing babies. That's a very weak argument.

There are plenty of way to have positive population growth without encouraging criminal behavior & inviting millions of illegals into the country. Venezuela, Honduras, etc emptied their prisons and asylums to send the dregs our way because of our fascist leaders & their idiotic policies.

It's also possible to encourage people to have babies with tax incentives, economic growth, pro-family social & health care, sane education, and other sensible policies. But the fascists have priorities that are just the opposite: such as their religious obsession with the mass murder of babies.

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I'm all for incentives, but they don't seem to accomplish all that much.

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Well, bringing in illegals doesn't accomplish much unless you hard the US: increased crime, more deaths from drugs, child trafficking (meaning slavery), huge economic burdens on police departments (schools & health care providers too), taking jobs from Americans, etc. Even if you favor the illegals to help the Dems steal elections, which would make you a cretin & a traitor, then it's still a net loss.

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Contrary to common wisdom, I believe they do cause some increase in crime. That's about the only thing you got right.

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About 10% of illegal immigrants are self-employed. The vast majority stole regular jobs from legal immigrants and US citizens

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FIFY

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Not really.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/despite-trumps-claims-data-shows-migrants-arent-taking-jobs-from-black-or-hispanic-people

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It's a far left fascist propaganda machine that you are quoting Sam. Got any realistic data?

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About 10% of illegal immigrants are self-employed. The vast majority stole regular jobs from legal immigrants and US citizens

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FIFY

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Not really.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/despite-trumps-claims-data-shows-migrants-arent-taking-jobs-from-black-or-hispanic-people

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It's a far left fascist propaganda machine that you are quoting Sam. Got any realistic data?

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Good grief.

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This is actually an interesting choice.

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Want to see how he slams big Pharma and keeps supplies up. We have a drug shortage now. Hopefully he helps bring manufacturing back to US.

BREAKING: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. allegedly intends to require Coca-Cola to begin using Cane Sugar instead of High-Fructose Syrup as HHS Secretary. pic.twitter.com/SeZUXRXsCh

— CEO of Elections 🇺🇸 (@CEOElection) November 17, 2024

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BREAKING: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. allegedly intends to require Coca-Cola to begin using Cane Sugar instead of High-Fructose Syrup as HHS Secretary. pic.twitter.com/SeZUXRXsCh

— CEO of Elections 🇺🇸 (@CEOElection) November 17, 2024

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That would be a good first step.

Not sure if the courts would play along.

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BREAKING: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. allegedly intends to require Coca-Cola to begin using Cane Sugar instead of High-Fructose Syrup as HHS Secretary. pic.twitter.com/SeZUXRXsCh

— CEO of Elections 🇺🇸 (@CEOElection) November 17, 2024

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That would be a good first step.

Not sure if the courts would play along.

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Run on removing too many regs by adding regs... This is going to go over well. If Libs did this there would be outrage and "woke" ***** Don't help if not consistent.

I prefer zero sugar and use stevia, how prescriptive are we going to get?

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Or just stop killing babies. That's a very weak argument.

There are plenty of way to have positive population growth without encouraging criminal behavior & inviting millions of illegals into the country. Venezuela, Honduras, etc emptied their prisons and asylums to send the dregs our way because of our fascist leaders & their idiotic policies.

It's also possible to encourage people to have babies with tax incentives, economic growth, pro-family social & health care, sane education, and other sensible policies. But the fascists have priorities that are just the opposite: such as their religious obsession with the mass murder of babies.

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I'm all for incentives, but they don't seem to accomplish all that much.

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Well, bringing in illegals doesn't accomplish much unless you hard the US: increased crime, more deaths from drugs, child trafficking (meaning slavery), huge economic burdens on police departments (schools & health care providers too), taking jobs from Americans, etc. Even if you favor the illegals to help the Dems steal elections, which would make you a cretin & a traitor, then it's still a net loss.

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Contrary to common wisdom, I believe they do cause some increase in crime. That's about the only thing you got right.

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Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant. Everything I've listed is well documented common sense conclusion about the incentives our corrupt government provided. The increased crime is spectacularly documented: with all the cases of illegals raping and murdering Americans. Does the name Laken Riley ring a bell? She is one of the prominent tragic victims of the evil policies perpetrated by the fascists.

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BREAKING: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. allegedly intends to require Coca-Cola to begin using Cane Sugar instead of High-Fructose Syrup as HHS Secretary. pic.twitter.com/SeZUXRXsCh

— CEO of Elections 🇺🇸 (@CEOElection) November 17, 2024

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That would be a good first step.

Not sure if the courts would play along.

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Run on removing too many regs by adding regs... This is going to go over well. If Libs did this there would be outrage and "woke" ***** Don't help if not consistent.

I prefer zero sugar and use stevia, how prescriptive are we going to get?

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Good point.

The real answer of course is not to drink Coke and other such liquid crap.

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Bingo... It should be a choice, but seems people forgot how to discipline themselves.

Based on our conversations as you know, fitness becomes a full time job as you age! You go from training for personal bests to training to stay active and healthy. You need to pick your vices wisely.

I love watching the 28 year olds at the gym, Hell you should look good at 28! Where is the accomplishment, : )

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BREAKING: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. allegedly intends to require Coca-Cola to begin using Cane Sugar instead of High-Fructose Syrup as HHS Secretary. pic.twitter.com/SeZUXRXsCh

— CEO of Elections 🇺🇸 (@CEOElection) November 17, 2024

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That would be a good first step.

Not sure if the courts would play along.

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Run on removing too many regs by adding regs... This is going to go over well. If Libs did this there would be outrage and "woke" ***** Don't help if not consistent.

I prefer zero sugar and use stevia, how prescriptive are we going to get?

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Good point.

The real answer of course is not to drink Coke and other such liquid crap.

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Bingo... It should be a choice, but seems people forgot how to discipline themselves.

Based on our conversations as you know, fitness becomes a full time job as you age! You go from training for personal bests to training to stay active and healthy. You need to pick your vices wisely.

I love watching the 28 year olds at the gym, Hell you should look good at 28! Where is the accomplishment, : )

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After an hour of cardio yesterday …..today is 1.5 hours of weights then a walk along the river.

More importantly is avoiding all sugar and caffeine as both negatively affect sleep.

However genetics plays a major role; and pure bad luck can
override everything.

But something in our foods is causing our people to become incredibly obese. As a culture we have become grotesque.

Got to do something ; Kennedy is right more often than wrong
in his approach.

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BREAKING: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. allegedly intends to require Coca-Cola to begin using Cane Sugar instead of High-Fructose Syrup as HHS Secretary. pic.twitter.com/SeZUXRXsCh

— CEO of Elections 🇺🇸 (@CEOElection) November 17, 2024

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That would be a good first step.

Not sure if the courts would play along.

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Run on removing too many regs by adding regs... This is going to go over well. If Libs did this there would be outrage and "woke" ***** Don't help if not consistent.

I prefer zero sugar and use stevia, how prescriptive are we going to get?

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Good point.

The real answer of course is not to drink Coke and other such liquid crap.

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Bingo... It should be a choice, but seems people forgot how to discipline themselves.

Based on our conversations as you know, fitness becomes a full time job as you age! You go from training for personal bests to training to stay active and healthy. You need to pick your vices wisely.

I love watching the 28 year olds at the gym, Hell you should look good at 28! Where is the accomplishment, : )

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1st thing I agree with u on.

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TikTok served me an RFK town hall. He spent 10 minutes talking about vaccines, implied they cause autism; then said that he wasn't anti-vax, just anti- all vaccines we currently have, and says as POTUS he'd stop research on drug development and infectious diseases for 8 years. pic.twitter.com/PKAzZ56Mn8

— Jacob Rubashkin (@JacobRubashkin) June 21, 2024

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And he's spot on. Of course, any suggestion of a link (despite the fact every single warning label on a vaccine says it might cause autism, among other childhood disorders) is viewed as crackpot by glib people who've bought hook line and sinker everything the drug manufacturers have told them.

You know what's interesting? Looking at a line graph demonstrating how much the number of vaccines have increased since the passage of the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, which essentially gave vaccine makers immunity for harming the public, and then looking at a corresponding line graph of the incidence of autism, ADHD, OCD, allergies, etc. in children. They almost mirror each other. Wonder why?

When I was a kid, I had 4 vaccines. A child born today would have over 70. I didn't know a single autistic child growing up. Now it's 1 in 36 in kids, and 1 in 25 boys.

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Your final sentence really highlights how ******ed you are. Amazing what only 4 vaccines did to you.

Bring Back Cocaine in Coca Cola!!!!!!

- el KKM

Wooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

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BREAKING: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. allegedly intends to require Coca-Cola to begin using Cane Sugar instead of High-Fructose Syrup as HHS Secretary. pic.twitter.com/SeZUXRXsCh

— CEO of Elections 🇺🇸 (@CEOElection) November 17, 2024

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That would be a good first step.

Not sure if the courts would play along.

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Run on removing too many regs by adding regs... This is going to go over well. If Libs did this there would be outrage and "woke" ***** Don't help if not consistent.

I prefer zero sugar and use stevia, how prescriptive are we going to get?

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Good point.

The real answer of course is not to drink Coke and other such liquid crap.

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Bingo... It should be a choice, but seems people forgot how to discipline themselves.

Based on our conversations as you know, fitness becomes a full time job as you age! You go from training for personal bests to training to stay active and healthy. You need to pick your vices wisely.

I love watching the 28 year olds at the gym, Hell you should look good at 28! Where is the accomplishment, : )

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After an hour of cardio yesterday …..today is 1.5 hours of weights then a walk along the river.

More importantly is avoiding all sugar and caffeine as both negatively affect sleep.

However genetics plays a major role; and pure bad luck can
override everything.

But something in our foods is causing our people to become incredibly obese. As a culture we have become grotesque.

Got to do something ; Kennedy is right more often than wrong
in his approach.

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You may like the website: TNation.com. It is sponsored by a suppliment company, but the articles are all cited and if you get around the products some good analysis.

I agree on the obesity. As for RFK, I agree on a lot of his stuff. I agree on the HFC, just don't like the slippery slope. I am agree on this, but if he comes after my Diet Pepsi... I can't get behind his vax stance, we forget the diseases that are under control.

I think the obesity is the processed foods and the eating out. The more you cook, the less you weigh. I also think people just don't care anymore. Appearance, manners, work ethic, individualism, self-reliance all seem to have gone away.

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TikTok served me an RFK town hall. He spent 10 minutes talking about vaccines, implied they cause autism; then said that he wasn't anti-vax, just anti- all vaccines we currently have, and says as POTUS he'd stop research on drug development and infectious diseases for 8 years. pic.twitter.com/PKAzZ56Mn8

— Jacob Rubashkin (@JacobRubashkin) June 21, 2024

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And he's spot on. Of course, any suggestion of a link (despite the fact every single warning label on a vaccine says it might cause autism, among other childhood disorders) is viewed as crackpot by glib people who've bought hook line and sinker everything the drug manufacturers have told them.

You know what's interesting? Looking at a line graph demonstrating how much the number of vaccines have increased since the passage of the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, which essentially gave vaccine makers immunity for harming the public, and then looking at a corresponding line graph of the incidence of autism, ADHD, OCD, allergies, etc. in children. They almost mirror each other. Wonder why?

When I was a kid, I had 4 vaccines. A child born today would have over 70. I didn't know a single autistic child growing up. Now it's 1 in 36 in kids, and 1 in 25 boys.

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Your final sentence really highlights how ******ed you are. Amazing what only 4 vaccines did to you.

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And you were just naturally born ******ed.....no vaccine injury needed

Pretty impressive actually

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About 10% of illegal immigrants are self-employed. The vast majority stole regular jobs from legal immigrants and US citizens

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FIFY

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Not really.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/despite-trumps-claims-data-shows-migrants-arent-taking-jobs-from-black-or-hispanic-people

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It's a far left fascist propaganda machine that you are quoting Sam. Got any realistic data?

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Good grief.

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ron.reagan said:

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Mothra said:

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boognish_bear said:

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TikTok served me an RFK town hall. He spent 10 minutes talking about vaccines, implied they cause autism; then said that he wasn't anti-vax, just anti- all vaccines we currently have, and says as POTUS he'd stop research on drug development and infectious diseases for 8 years. pic.twitter.com/PKAzZ56Mn8

— Jacob Rubashkin (@JacobRubashkin) June 21, 2024

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And he's spot on. Of course, any suggestion of a link (despite the fact every single warning label on a vaccine says it might cause autism, among other childhood disorders) is viewed as crackpot by glib people who've bought hook line and sinker everything the drug manufacturers have told them.

You know what's interesting? Looking at a line graph demonstrating how much the number of vaccines have increased since the passage of the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, which essentially gave vaccine makers immunity for harming the public, and then looking at a corresponding line graph of the incidence of autism, ADHD, OCD, allergies, etc. in children. They almost mirror each other. Wonder why?

When I was a kid, I had 4 vaccines. A child born today would have over 70. I didn't know a single autistic child growing up. Now it's 1 in 36 in kids, and 1 in 25 boys.

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Your final sentence really highlights how ******ed you are. Amazing what only 4 vaccines did to you.

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And you were just naturally born ******ed.....no vaccine injury needed

Pretty impressive actually

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I did t know any children with autism. There was a bus they picked up kids called "ill formed" and took them to a different school.

As boys, we'd always joke that our friends belonged on those buses.

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KaiBear said:

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KaiBear said:

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BREAKING: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. allegedly intends to require Coca-Cola to begin using Cane Sugar instead of High-Fructose Syrup as HHS Secretary. pic.twitter.com/SeZUXRXsCh

— CEO of Elections 🇺🇸 (@CEOElection) November 17, 2024

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That would be a good first step.

Not sure if the courts would play along.

---

Run on removing too many regs by adding regs... This is going to go over well. If Libs did this there would be outrage and "woke" ***** Don't help if not consistent.

I prefer zero sugar and use stevia, how prescriptive are we going to get?

---

Good point.

The real answer of course is not to drink Coke and other such liquid crap.

---

Bingo... It should be a choice, but seems people forgot how to discipline themselves.

Based on our conversations as you know, fitness becomes a full time job as you age! You go from training for personal bests to training to stay active and healthy. You need to pick your vices wisely.

I love watching the 28 year olds at the gym, Hell you should look good at 28! Where is the accomplishment, : )

---

After an hour of cardio yesterday …..today is 1.5 hours of weights then a walk along the river.

More importantly is avoiding all sugar and caffeine as both negatively affect sleep.

However genetics plays a major role; and pure bad luck can
override everything.

But something in our foods is causing our people to become incredibly obese. As a culture we have become grotesque.

Got to do something ; Kennedy is right more often than wrong
in his approach.

---

You may like the website: TNation.com. It is sponsored by a suppliment company, but the articles are all cited and if you get around the products some good analysis.

I agree on the obesity. As for RFK, I agree on a lot of his stuff. I agree on the HFC, just don't like the slippery slope. I am agree on this, but if he comes after my Diet Pepsi... I can't get behind his vax stance, we forget the diseases that are under control.

I think the obesity is the processed foods and the eating out. The more you cook, the less you weigh. I also think people just don't care anymore. Appearance, manners, work ethic, individualism, self-reliance all seem to have gone away.

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We agree on 90% of all this, Especially your thoughts regarding slippery slope. But people are getting enormously fat across the country. There just has to be more to this phenomenon than a widespread lack of discipline.

I like to eat out to give my wife a break or to spend time with the grandsons . However we always eat healthier at home.

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Sure gonna miss this dude..

Biden-Harris HHS: "Climate change has a disproportionate impact on blacks" pic.twitter.com/3qd0uSTcvV

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 14, 2024

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..... looks like a lady.

- ST BHJ

{ sipping coffee }

Go Bears!

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Jack Bauer said:

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Sure gonna miss this dude..

Biden-Harris HHS: "Climate change has a disproportionate impact on blacks" pic.twitter.com/3qd0uSTcvV

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 14, 2024

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..... looks like a lady.

- ST BHJ

{ sipping coffee }

Go Bears!

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'We made up climate change. And now more blacks are stressed thinking about that fabrication. So now we get to take more of your money in the name of treating you because you fell for it.'

That's all I heard listening to that sick dude.

What happened to this Joe Scarborough?

RFK Jr Flashback with none other than Morning Joe Scarborough — “We’re going to find out Thimerosal (mercury in vaccines) causes Autism.”

“As it turns it, we are injecting our children with 400 times the amount of mercury that the FDA And… pic.twitter.com/D2XFZgaHBb

— MJTruthUltra (@MJTruthUltra) November 18, 2024

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Big pharma execs need to go to prison for life.

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Big pharma execs need to go to prison for life.

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We need to find out just which politicians were paid off. And make that list very public

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And put them in prison

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Big pharma execs need to go to prison for life.

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We need to find out just which politicians were paid off. And make that list very public

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And put them in prison

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After castration...

Mitch McConnell put RFK Jr. on notice after reports seemingly linking the Health and Human Services nominee to an effort to revoke the polio vaccine.

"Efforts to undermine public confidence in proven cures are not just uninformed — they're dangerous." https://t.co/eUud1x35F0

— Axios (@axios) December 13, 2024