historian said:

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Except those "poor schmucks" with govt salaries higher than the average worker's salary who are "doing their job" are doing a job that never should have existed in the first place. By definition, govt jobs are parasitical since they don't add anything to the economy.

If they have genuine skills, they will be able to find real jobs that are productive and not parasitical. In the long run, everyone will bd better off including those who are displaced.

If the system is such a mess, it's going to require drastic measures to fix. America needs this desperately.

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Not all Govt jobs are parasitic and their are just as many private sector jobs that are parasitical. Private is not all good and public is not all bad. It is a simplistic approach that shows not really knowing much about it. This all or nothing approach is just as bad as the Dems let Govt do everything approach.

Married A Horn said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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If I'm a mid level bureaucrat at the DoEducation, I'm updating my resume and looking around. If a job opens in the private sector, I'm pouncing.

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That is who is going to take the brunt of this, the 75k a year guy just doing their job. Did nothing wrong, broke no rules, set no agendas or direction. They will be the "fired" brought more efficiency group.

The uppers will reassign within the Fed or move to VP roles at Beltway Corporations (ones that are buddies with the current Admin) that will get Fed contracts to do what the 75k a year guy did, only at a 3.5 multiplier...

The people that cause the issues, they will be unscathed because they are connected. It will once again be the poor schmuck that decided they wanted to be an Educator and took a job a DOE...

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They can go get jobs. It's not that hard. Stop being a bleeding heart liberal and start worrying about the thirty six trillion dollar debt we owe... or it all goes down the toilet.

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Yeah, until your road needs resurfacing or you have to pay a toll. You are the first person *****ing...

FLBear5630 said:

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Married A Horn said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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If I'm a mid level bureaucrat at the DoEducation, I'm updating my resume and looking around. If a job opens in the private sector, I'm pouncing.

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That is who is going to take the brunt of this, the 75k a year guy just doing their job. Did nothing wrong, broke no rules, set no agendas or direction. They will be the "fired" brought more efficiency group.

The uppers will reassign within the Fed or move to VP roles at Beltway Corporations (ones that are buddies with the current Admin) that will get Fed contracts to do what the 75k a year guy did, only at a 3.5 multiplier...

The people that cause the issues, they will be unscathed because they are connected. It will once again be the poor schmuck that decided they wanted to be an Educator and took a job a DOE...

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They can go get jobs. It's not that hard. Stop being a bleeding heart liberal and start worrying about the thirty six trillion dollar debt we owe... or it all goes down the toilet.

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Yeah, until your road needs resurfacing or you have to pay a toll. You are the first person *****ing...

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You didn't address anything I said. In a way, you really just confirmed it... cut out the waste or it all goes to crap. Including stuff we need like roads.

Redbrickbear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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historian said:

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Except those "poor schmucks" with govt salaries higher than the average worker's salary who are "doing their job" are doing a job that never should have existed in the first place. By definition, govt jobs are parasitical since they don't add anything to the economy.

If they have genuine skills, they will be able to find real jobs that are productive and not parasitical. In the long run, everyone will bd better off including those who are displaced.

If the system is such a mess, it's going to require drastic measures to fix. America needs this desperately.

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Not all Govt jobs are parasitic and their are just as many private sector jobs that are parasitical.

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Sure

But when a private sector job is parasitical its not the Tax payers paying for it.

If Baylor Regents want lots of superfluous jobs around that produce nothing....fine...no skin off anyone's back. Well no ones back other than the students that keep paying the rising offensively large tuition bill

The DOJ having 100,000+ employees and a $68 billon dollar budget is a bunch of wasteful jobs living off the tax payer (and probably cooking up made up work that is unconstitutional)

PS

What do you think the ratio of real jobs in the Federal Gov. is to fake jobs? I am betting 1 to 3....real vs fake.

You could cut the Federal work force by 60% and see no real loss in quality at all.

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Fake jobs? I have never seen a fake job, I have seen unfilled jobs. Fake jobs to what end? What value is there to fake public sector jobs to anyone?

You guys throw stuff out there like it is fact with no evidence or even examples. Please show me a fake job? If there is one and the money to fund that job isnt' used, since there is no job. What happens to it? I guess audits are faked too, to cover the fake jobs. What are they doing with the money, clandestine weather analysis? As I said, fake to what end? GAO misses all these "fake jobs"?

FLBear5630 said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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historian said:

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Except those "poor schmucks" with govt salaries higher than the average worker's salary who are "doing their job" are doing a job that never should have existed in the first place. By definition, govt jobs are parasitical since they don't add anything to the economy.

If they have genuine skills, they will be able to find real jobs that are productive and not parasitical. In the long run, everyone will bd better off including those who are displaced.

If the system is such a mess, it's going to require drastic measures to fix. America needs this desperately.

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Not all Govt jobs are parasitic and their are just as many private sector jobs that are parasitical.

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Sure

But when a private sector job is parasitical its not the Tax payers paying for it.

If Baylor Regents want lots of superfluous jobs around that produce nothing....fine...no skin off anyone's back. Well no ones back other than the students that keep paying the rising offensively large tuition bill

The DOJ having 100,000+ employees and a $68 billon dollar budget is a bunch of wasteful jobs living off the tax payer (and probably cooking up made up work that is unconstitutional)

PS

What do you think the ratio of real jobs in the Federal Gov. is to fake jobs? I am betting 1 to 3....real vs fake.

You could cut the Federal work force by 60% and see no real loss in quality at all.

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Fake jobs? I have never seen a fake job, I have seen unfilled jobs. Fake jobs to what end? What value is there to fake public sector jobs to anyone?

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Votes....brother.....Votes


That has been a thing since the days of old Tammy Hall

[Tammany depended for its power on government contracts, jobs, patronage, corruption, and ultimately the ability of its leaders to control nominations to the Democratic ticket and swing the popular vote.]

A good portion of jobs in the Federal gov. are a jobs program for Democratic party constituents

FLBear5630 said:

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historian said:

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Except those "poor schmucks" with govt salaries higher than the average worker's salary who are "doing their job" are doing a job that never should have existed in the first place. By definition, govt jobs are parasitical since they don't add anything to the economy.

If they have genuine skills, they will be able to find real jobs that are productive and not parasitical. In the long run, everyone will bd better off including those who are displaced.

If the system is such a mess, it's going to require drastic measures to fix. America needs this desperately.

---

Not all Govt jobs are parasitic and their are just as many private sector jobs that are parasitical. Private is not all good and public is not all bad. It is a simplistic approach that shows not really knowing much about it. This all or nothing approach is just as bad as the Dems let Govt do everything approach.

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True. Government does have a few legitimate functions and there are many people who do wonderful things. Too many, however, are parasitic and more than willing to abuse the power they have as bureaucrats. Private sector workers have their share of problems too. However, it's a lot easier to hold people accountable in the private sector: corrupt or incompetent workers can be fired and managers that abuse their position can be fired or even prosecuted. It's much more difficult to correct these issues in the public sector.

historian said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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historian said:

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Except those "poor schmucks" with govt salaries higher than the average worker's salary who are "doing their job" are doing a job that never should have existed in the first place. By definition, govt jobs are parasitical since they don't add anything to the economy.

If they have genuine skills, they will be able to find real jobs that are productive and not parasitical. In the long run, everyone will bd better off including those who are displaced.

If the system is such a mess, it's going to require drastic measures to fix. America needs this desperately.

---

Not all Govt jobs are parasitic and their are just as many private sector jobs that are parasitical. Private is not all good and public is not all bad. It is a simplistic approach that shows not really knowing much about it. This all or nothing approach is just as bad as the Dems let Govt do everything approach.

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True. Government does have a few legitimate functions and there are many people who do wonderful things. Too many, however, are parasitic and more than willing to abuse the power they have as bureaucrats. Private sector workers have their share of problems too. However, it's a lot easier to hold people accountable in the private sector: corrupt or incompetent workers can be fired and managers that abuse their position can be fired or even prosecuted. It's much more difficult to correct these issues in the public sector.

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I would agree that appointees are a problem, they have no idea about the Dept they are running and make political, not data driven decisions. The Political appointees are who set the direction, not the civil service.

Mayor of Knox County, TN tombstones our next Secretary of Education in what must be a dispute over federalism. pic.twitter.com/ApGCHmhSqx

— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) November 20, 2024

boognish_bear said:

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Mayor of Knox County, TN tombstones our next Secretary of Education in what must be a dispute over federalism. pic.twitter.com/ApGCHmhSqx

— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) November 20, 2024

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Soon...

Redbrickbear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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historian said:

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Except those "poor schmucks" with govt salaries higher than the average worker's salary who are "doing their job" are doing a job that never should have existed in the first place. By definition, govt jobs are parasitical since they don't add anything to the economy.

If they have genuine skills, they will be able to find real jobs that are productive and not parasitical. In the long run, everyone will bd better off including those who are displaced.

If the system is such a mess, it's going to require drastic measures to fix. America needs this desperately.

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Not all Govt jobs are parasitic and their are just as many private sector jobs that are parasitical.

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Sure

But when a private sector job is parasitical its not the Tax payers paying for it.

If Baylor Regents want lots of superfluous jobs around that produce nothing....fine...no skin off anyone's back. Well no ones back other than the students that keep paying the rising offensively large tuition bill

The DOJ having 100,000+ employees and a $68 billon dollar budget is a bunch of wasteful jobs living off the tax payer (and probably cooking up made up work that is unconstitutional)

PS

What do you think the ratio of real jobs in the Federal Gov. is to fake jobs? I am betting 1 to 3....real vs fake.

You could cut the Federal work force by 60% and see no real loss in quality at all.

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Fake jobs? I have never seen a fake job, I have seen unfilled jobs. Fake jobs to what end? What value is there to fake public sector jobs to anyone?

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Votes....brother.....Votes


That has been a thing since the days of old Tammy Hall

[Tammany depended for its power on government contracts, jobs, patronage, corruption, and ultimately the ability of its leaders to control nominations to the Democratic ticket and swing the popular vote.]

A good portion of jobs in the Federal gov. are a jobs program for Democratic party constituents

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I think you guys are mixing up programs with Agencies. US Dept of Labor has all sorts of programs that have different lifespans. Getting rid of obsolete programs, no problem. There are numerous programs that need to be re-vamped for today. But get rid of complete Agencies? I can see some of the non-core functions, but we better have a plan to deal with what is next. Can't get rid and then dump on States without some type of transition. Boring practicalities but necessary.

I'm much more for the non- bureaucratic way and just chop 'em. I'm way more worried about 36 Trillion $'s than I am making sure every little aspect of an agency is okay. Major Drastic Changes are needed. And they are needed fast. This is not the time to get bogged down in committee meetings.

U can go back and clean that up after we have stopped the bleeding.

Married A Horn said:

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I'm much more for the non- bureaucratic way and just chop 'em. I'm way more worried about 36 Trillion $'s than I am making sure every little aspect of an agency is okay. Major Drastic Changes are needed. And they are needed fast. This is not the time to get bogged down in committee meetings.

U can go back and clean that up after we have stopped the bleeding.

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So where is the cutting line? Founding Fathers?

State
Treasury
Defense
Justice

Those are the originals, several combined such as War and Navy. AG became Justice. But for simplicity...

When did it come off the rails? Want to go to 1829 and add Post Office?

Pre-Civil war and add Interior & Ag?

That is all there was before 1865. If we are going to be true to bringing back the Original intent, defer to the OGs?

Or do you know better than the Founding Fathers. You like HSA, so we will keep that one even though that added to the bloat in 2002. Elon gonna pick and choose?

FLBear5630 said:

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Married A Horn said:

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I'm much more for the non- bureaucratic way and just chop 'em. I'm way more worried about 36 Trillion $'s than I am making sure every little aspect of an agency is okay. Major Drastic Changes are needed. And they are needed fast. This is not the time to get bogged down in committee meetings.

U can go back and clean that up after we have stopped the bleeding.

---

So where is the cutting line? Founding Fathers?

State
Treasury
Defense
Justice

Those are the originals, several combined such as War and Navy. AG became Justice. But for simplicity...

When did it come off the rails? Want to go to 1829 and add Post Office?

Pre-Civil war and add Interior & Ag?

That is all there was before 1865. If we are going to be true to bringing back the Original intent, defer to the OGs?

Or do you know better than the Founding Fathers. You like HSA, so we will keep that one even though that added to the bloat in 2002. Elon gonna pick and choose?

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Do you post just to hear yourself talk?

We are talking about getting rid of the dept of education. You are losing the argument so you try change our side to: 'end everything - we know better than the founding fathers' and then take up a stance against your new prescribed position for us.

Just say, 'yeah, u have a point. $36,000,000,000,000 is a lot.'

You know its okay to agree with at least some of the stuff trump is goung to do.

Married A Horn said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Married A Horn said:

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I'm much more for the non- bureaucratic way and just chop 'em. I'm way more worried about 36 Trillion $'s than I am making sure every little aspect of an agency is okay. Major Drastic Changes are needed. And they are needed fast. This is not the time to get bogged down in committee meetings.

U can go back and clean that up after we have stopped the bleeding.

---

So where is the cutting line? Founding Fathers?

State
Treasury
Defense
Justice

Those are the originals, several combined such as War and Navy. AG became Justice. But for simplicity...

When did it come off the rails? Want to go to 1829 and add Post Office?

Pre-Civil war and add Interior & Ag?

That is all there was before 1865. If we are going to be true to bringing back the Original intent, defer to the OGs?

Or do you know better than the Founding Fathers. You like HSA, so we will keep that one even though that added to the bloat in 2002. Elon gonna pick and choose?

---

Do you post just to hear yourself talk?

We are talking about getting rid of the dept of education. You are losing the argument so you try change our side to: 'end everything - we know better than the founding fathers' and then take up a stance against your new prescribed position for us.

Just say, 'yeah, u have a point. $36,000,000,000,000 is a lot.'

You know its okay to agree with at least some of the stuff trump is goung to do.

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Actually, it seems that you just talk. You don't seem to want to answer or discuss how any of this gets done.

What argument? Either he will do it or not. If he does how? Seems relevant.

You just pick what you don't like. I have given Trump high marks on several items, lately, today, re-opening Keystone. I agree with 2016 Trump on many, if not all, the things he did. This version, seems a bit on Sherman's March to the Sea. Don't want to see him destroy a great Country because he is pissed...

go donny go!



go donny go!

- el KKM

go bears!

beat the coogs!!

OsoCoreyell said:

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WS6bear said:

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This idea that student loans or forgiveness is buying votes is incredibly lazy and stupid. It's an investment in your population. Completing higher education leads to higher paying jobs, more competitive work environment, healthier families and kids, longer lives, etc. Combine all that and the end result is a stronger economy, stronger global leadership, less government spending on healthcare and other entitlements, less of the population reliant on social security and welfare, and countless other benefits. These things are proven.

Are there people gaming the system? Of course. Are they people getting pointless degrees with no job prospects? Totally. That doesn't change the fact that a large majority of those completing secondary education are contributing much more to the country than those who do not - including those who complete community college, trade schools, and even apprenticeships.

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You've set up a false choice. The student loan system is the MAIN driver of increased tuition and an utter lack of competitiveness between institutions of higher learning. Why compete when the government will continue to write as many checks as are needed to pay the tuition of anyone that wants it for any "degree" at all?

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Agree that the cost has gone up with access.

But, Student Loans have given millions access that would not have been able to afford school and definitely not top quality schools.

Millions have either paid their off, met requirements for programs that helped pay them off, getting rid of the whole program is not productive for the Nation.

We are already in a competition with several nations with more people and a higher commitment to education. Both India and China can educate 1/4 of their populations and have more trained people and do it cheaper. We need to look for ways to make them better, not cut for the sake of cutting if we are going to compete because we can't by the numbers.

Too much talk of just cutting things without knowing what the outcome will be or the next steps.

FLBear5630 said:

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Married A Horn said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Married A Horn said:

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I'm much more for the non- bureaucratic way and just chop 'em. I'm way more worried about 36 Trillion $'s than I am making sure every little aspect of an agency is okay. Major Drastic Changes are needed. And they are needed fast. This is not the time to get bogged down in committee meetings.

U can go back and clean that up after we have stopped the bleeding.

---

So where is the cutting line? Founding Fathers?

State
Treasury
Defense
Justice

Those are the originals, several combined such as War and Navy. AG became Justice. But for simplicity...

When did it come off the rails? Want to go to 1829 and add Post Office?

Pre-Civil war and add Interior & Ag?

That is all there was before 1865. If we are going to be true to bringing back the Original intent, defer to the OGs?

Or do you know better than the Founding Fathers. You like HSA, so we will keep that one even though that added to the bloat in 2002. Elon gonna pick and choose?

---

Do you post just to hear yourself talk?

We are talking about getting rid of the dept of education. You are losing the argument so you try change our side to: 'end everything - we know better than the founding fathers' and then take up a stance against your new prescribed position for us.

Just say, 'yeah, u have a point. $36,000,000,000,000 is a lot.'

You know its okay to agree with at least some of the stuff trump is goung to do.

---

Actually, it seems that you just talk. You don't seem to want to answer or discuss how any of this gets done.

What argument? Either he will do it or not. If he does how? Seems relevant.

You just pick what you don't like. I have given Trump high marks on several items, lately, today, re-opening Keystone. I agree with 2016 Trump on many, if not all, the things he did. This version, seems a bit on Sherman's March to the Sea. Don't want to see him destroy a great Country because he is pissed...

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Us: he should get rid of dept of edu
You: stop destroying the entire nation

Us: we need to get control of the deficit and national debt
You: sherman's march!!!

/done

Married A Horn said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Married A Horn said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Married A Horn said:

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I'm much more for the non- bureaucratic way and just chop 'em. I'm way more worried about 36 Trillion $'s than I am making sure every little aspect of an agency is okay. Major Drastic Changes are needed. And they are needed fast. This is not the time to get bogged down in committee meetings.

U can go back and clean that up after we have stopped the bleeding.

---

So where is the cutting line? Founding Fathers?

State
Treasury
Defense
Justice

Those are the originals, several combined such as War and Navy. AG became Justice. But for simplicity...

When did it come off the rails? Want to go to 1829 and add Post Office?

Pre-Civil war and add Interior & Ag?

That is all there was before 1865. If we are going to be true to bringing back the Original intent, defer to the OGs?

Or do you know better than the Founding Fathers. You like HSA, so we will keep that one even though that added to the bloat in 2002. Elon gonna pick and choose?

---

Do you post just to hear yourself talk?

We are talking about getting rid of the dept of education. You are losing the argument so you try change our side to: 'end everything - we know better than the founding fathers' and then take up a stance against your new prescribed position for us.

Just say, 'yeah, u have a point. $36,000,000,000,000 is a lot.'

You know its okay to agree with at least some of the stuff trump is goung to do.

---

Actually, it seems that you just talk. You don't seem to want to answer or discuss how any of this gets done.

What argument? Either he will do it or not. If he does how? Seems relevant.

You just pick what you don't like. I have given Trump high marks on several items, lately, today, re-opening Keystone. I agree with 2016 Trump on many, if not all, the things he did. This version, seems a bit on Sherman's March to the Sea. Don't want to see him destroy a great Country because he is pissed...

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Us: he should get rid of dept of edu
You: stop destroying the entire nation

Us: we need to get control of the deficit and national debt
You: sherman's march!!!

/done

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You: he should get rid of dept of edu
Me: How will it be done? Will the States be involved?
You: LIBERAL

As for the others, are you listening to the DOGE? It is not just DOE. Keep up. Musk is on to Milton Friedman's Govt structure.

FLBear5630 said:

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Married A Horn said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Married A Horn said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Married A Horn said:

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I'm much more for the non- bureaucratic way and just chop 'em. I'm way more worried about 36 Trillion $'s than I am making sure every little aspect of an agency is okay. Major Drastic Changes are needed. And they are needed fast. This is not the time to get bogged down in committee meetings.

U can go back and clean that up after we have stopped the bleeding.

---

So where is the cutting line? Founding Fathers?

State
Treasury
Defense
Justice

Those are the originals, several combined such as War and Navy. AG became Justice. But for simplicity...

When did it come off the rails? Want to go to 1829 and add Post Office?

Pre-Civil war and add Interior & Ag?

That is all there was before 1865. If we are going to be true to bringing back the Original intent, defer to the OGs?

Or do you know better than the Founding Fathers. You like HSA, so we will keep that one even though that added to the bloat in 2002. Elon gonna pick and choose?

---

Do you post just to hear yourself talk?

We are talking about getting rid of the dept of education. You are losing the argument so you try change our side to: 'end everything - we know better than the founding fathers' and then take up a stance against your new prescribed position for us.

Just say, 'yeah, u have a point. $36,000,000,000,000 is a lot.'

You know its okay to agree with at least some of the stuff trump is goung to do.

---

Actually, it seems that you just talk. You don't seem to want to answer or discuss how any of this gets done.

What argument? Either he will do it or not. If he does how? Seems relevant.

You just pick what you don't like. I have given Trump high marks on several items, lately, today, re-opening Keystone. I agree with 2016 Trump on many, if not all, the things he did. This version, seems a bit on Sherman's March to the Sea. Don't want to see him destroy a great Country because he is pissed...

---

Us: he should get rid of dept of edu
You: stop destroying the entire nation

Us: we need to get control of the deficit and national debt
You: sherman's march!!!

/done

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You: he should get rid of dept of edu
Me: How will it be done? Will the States be involved?
You: LIBERAL

As for the others, are you listening to the DOGE? It is not just DOE. Keep up. Musk is on to Milton Friedman's Govt structure.

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LIBERAL

Married A Horn said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Married A Horn said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Married A Horn said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Married A Horn said:

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I'm much more for the non- bureaucratic way and just chop 'em. I'm way more worried about 36 Trillion $'s than I am making sure every little aspect of an agency is okay. Major Drastic Changes are needed. And they are needed fast. This is not the time to get bogged down in committee meetings.

U can go back and clean that up after we have stopped the bleeding.

---

So where is the cutting line? Founding Fathers?

State
Treasury
Defense
Justice

Those are the originals, several combined such as War and Navy. AG became Justice. But for simplicity...

When did it come off the rails? Want to go to 1829 and add Post Office?

Pre-Civil war and add Interior & Ag?

That is all there was before 1865. If we are going to be true to bringing back the Original intent, defer to the OGs?

Or do you know better than the Founding Fathers. You like HSA, so we will keep that one even though that added to the bloat in 2002. Elon gonna pick and choose?

---

Do you post just to hear yourself talk?

We are talking about getting rid of the dept of education. You are losing the argument so you try change our side to: 'end everything - we know better than the founding fathers' and then take up a stance against your new prescribed position for us.

Just say, 'yeah, u have a point. $36,000,000,000,000 is a lot.'

You know its okay to agree with at least some of the stuff trump is goung to do.

---

Actually, it seems that you just talk. You don't seem to want to answer or discuss how any of this gets done.

What argument? Either he will do it or not. If he does how? Seems relevant.

You just pick what you don't like. I have given Trump high marks on several items, lately, today, re-opening Keystone. I agree with 2016 Trump on many, if not all, the things he did. This version, seems a bit on Sherman's March to the Sea. Don't want to see him destroy a great Country because he is pissed...

---

Us: he should get rid of dept of edu
You: stop destroying the entire nation

Us: we need to get control of the deficit and national debt
You: sherman's march!!!

/done

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You: he should get rid of dept of edu
Me: How will it be done? Will the States be involved?
You: LIBERAL

As for the others, are you listening to the DOGE? It is not just DOE. Keep up. Musk is on to Milton Friedman's Govt structure.

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LIBERAL

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FLBear5630 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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If I'm a mid level bureaucrat at the DoEducation, I'm updating my resume and looking around. If a job opens in the private sector, I'm pouncing.

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That is who is going to take the brunt of this, the 75k a year guy just doing their job. Did nothing wrong, broke no rules, set no agendas or direction. They will be the "fired" brought more efficiency group.

The uppers will reassign within the Fed or move to VP roles at Beltway Corporations (ones that are buddies with the current Admin) that will get Fed contracts to do what the 75k a year guy did, only at a 3.5 multiplier...

The people that cause the issues, they will be unscathed because they are connected. It will once again be the poor schmuck that decided they wanted to be an Educator and took a job a DOE...

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Get rid of all of them. Stop paying for failure.

Wrecks Quan Dough said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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If I'm a mid level bureaucrat at the DoEducation, I'm updating my resume and looking around. If a job opens in the private sector, I'm pouncing.

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That is who is going to take the brunt of this, the 75k a year guy just doing their job. Did nothing wrong, broke no rules, set no agendas or direction. They will be the "fired" brought more efficiency group.

The uppers will reassign within the Fed or move to VP roles at Beltway Corporations (ones that are buddies with the current Admin) that will get Fed contracts to do what the 75k a year guy did, only at a 3.5 multiplier...

The people that cause the issues, they will be unscathed because they are connected. It will once again be the poor schmuck that decided they wanted to be an Educator and took a job a DOE...

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Get rid of all of them. Stop paying for failure.

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Failure? In what regard, the US has some of the premier Agencies in the world. called to other Nations to help them regularly. You may not agree with funding or like them, but that does not make them failures

FLBear5630 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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If I'm a mid level bureaucrat at the DoEducation, I'm updating my resume and looking around. If a job opens in the private sector, I'm pouncing.

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That is who is going to take the brunt of this, the 75k a year guy just doing their job. Did nothing wrong, broke no rules, set no agendas or direction. They will be the "fired" brought more efficiency group.

The uppers will reassign within the Fed or move to VP roles at Beltway Corporations (ones that are buddies with the current Admin) that will get Fed contracts to do what the 75k a year guy did, only at a 3.5 multiplier...

The people that cause the issues, they will be unscathed because they are connected. It will once again be the poor schmuck that decided they wanted to be an Educator and took a job a DOE...

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Get rid of all of them. Stop paying for failure.

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Failure? In what regard, the US has some of the premier Agencies in the world. called to other Nations to help them regularly. You may not agree with funding or like them, but that does not make them failures

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You were speaking of the Dept. Of Education. It can go. In its entirety.