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It is quite shocking how many of the Democratic positions of today cannot stand up to literally any scrutiny. Simple direct questions cause them to crumble. It was the dems who coined the phrase "trust the science" but on quite a few issues they seem to be completely ignoring the science.

I think this is why Trump won. More moderate democrats who haven't lost their minds simply couldn't back some of the more far left positions and voted republican or abstained altogether.

When the senior leadership of the democratic party ceded power and/or influence to people like AOC and Ilhan Omar inside their own party due to their flash in the pan popularity, they lost control of the narrative and things have slipped further and further left. I honestly don't believe the majority of democrats believe this stuff but there is a very vocal minority both inside their party and in their voter base that is now leading the charge and they don't seem to be showing much progress wresting control back from the lunatic fringe, even after a fairly embarrassing defeat in the last primary cycle.

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Probably true. But there still are millions of people willing to vote for the dangerous insanity. Even if you discount a sizable number to continued fraud (very likely in blue states since they have had few real reforms), it's a huge number.
To be honest, the fascists (aka "Democrat Party") is looking more and more like a criminal or terrorist organization these days.

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Right now most are just voting against Trump and anyone who supports him/ that he endorses. Once he leaves I would bet many Dems will start to vote against other Dems.

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I wish this were true, but I think the track record is against this line of thinking. They said horrible things about GWB. They said horrible things about McCain who was known for being a centrist. They said horrible things about Romney who is considered a rhino in his own party and is a bland human being. They certainly ramped things up for Trump, but the Dem playbook has always been to demonize your opponent. They'll spend the next two cycles doing the same thing while also citing the candidates Trump ties to provide cover. Once Trump is far in the rearview and no longer good fodder, they'll have moved on to some other person with an R by their name they have deemed the latest Hitlerian figure.

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There is no way Travis Hunter should’ve chosen to be baptized on the morning of a game. He is losing interest. He is mentally checking out on the Jags. pic.twitter.com/hzqydPXSYG

— Skip Bayless (@RealSkipBayless) October 15, 2025

There is never a wrong time to dedicated your life to serving God. https://t.co/yRm6fzfCNj

— Robert Griffin III (@RGIII) October 16, 2025

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Guys, how many of you wished the NFL had more fat, slow, out of shape middle aged men for 'inclusivity"??

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I can’t stop laughing at this headline pic.twitter.com/WmI1IcEWAm

— Ben Dreyfuss (@bendreyfuss) October 16, 2025

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Guys, how many of you wished the NFL had more fat, slow, out of shape middle aged men for 'inclusivity"??

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Guys, how many of you wished the NFL had more fat, slow, out of shape middle aged men for 'inclusivity"??

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Companies are doing all they can too push angel reese on us. And it isn't working. Her shoe failed. No one will pay attention to her with this Victoria's Secret thing. Well except Shaq who wants to hook up with her.

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Angel Reese complained about being sexualized....then appeared in the SI Swimsuit Issue and Victoria Secret runway show. It's hard to be a professional victim.

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Jack Bauer said:

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Guys, how many of you wished the NFL had more fat, slow, out of shape middle aged men for 'inclusivity"??

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You could argue that modeling is the one area that inclusivity actually makes some sense. Models as aspirational figures is awesome but models are there to sell clothes.

My wife actually fits the VS model mold well, her sister doesn't. VS needs to sell to both of them because there are far fewer women that look like my wife than her sister.

Showing a size 8 that she can look great and these clothes don't only look good on a size 0 does, actually, make some sense.

Trying to sell clothes only to thin women is a losing business proposition in this country because there are fewer and fewer of those by the day.

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FormerFlash said:

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cowboycwr said:

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FormerFlash said:

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It is quite shocking how many of the Democratic positions of today cannot stand up to literally any scrutiny. Simple direct questions cause them to crumble. It was the dems who coined the phrase "trust the science" but on quite a few issues they seem to be completely ignoring the science.

I think this is why Trump won. More moderate democrats who haven't lost their minds simply couldn't back some of the more far left positions and voted republican or abstained altogether.

When the senior leadership of the democratic party ceded power and/or influence to people like AOC and Ilhan Omar inside their own party due to their flash in the pan popularity, they lost control of the narrative and things have slipped further and further left. I honestly don't believe the majority of democrats believe this stuff but there is a very vocal minority both inside their party and in their voter base that is now leading the charge and they don't seem to be showing much progress wresting control back from the lunatic fringe, even after a fairly embarrassing defeat in the last primary cycle.

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Probably true. But there still are millions of people willing to vote for the dangerous insanity. Even if you discount a sizable number to continued fraud (very likely in blue states since they have had few real reforms), it's a huge number.
To be honest, the fascists (aka "Democrat Party") is looking more and more like a criminal or terrorist organization these days.

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Right now most are just voting against Trump and anyone who supports him/ that he endorses. Once he leaves I would bet many Dems will start to vote against other Dems.

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I wish this were true, but I think the track record is against this line of thinking. They said horrible things about GWB. They said horrible things about McCain who was known for being a centrist. They said horrible things about Romney who is considered a rhino in his own party and is a bland human being. They certainly ramped things up for Trump, but the Dem playbook has always been to demonize your opponent. They'll spend the next two cycles doing the same thing while also citing the candidates Trump ties to provide cover. Once Trump is far in the rearview and no longer good fodder, they'll have moved on to some other person with an R by their name they have deemed the latest Hitlerian figure.

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cowboycwr said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Guys, how many of you wished the NFL had more fat, slow, out of shape middle aged men for 'inclusivity"??

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You could argue that modeling is the one area that inclusivity actually makes some sense. Models as aspirational figures is awesome but models are there to sell clothes.

My wife actually fits the VS model mold well, her sister doesn't. VS needs to sell to both of them because there are far fewer women that look like my wife than her sister.

Showing a size 8 that she can look great and these clothes don't only look good on a size 0 does, actually, make some sense.

Trying to sell clothes only to thin women is a losing business proposition in this country because there are fewer and fewer of those by the day.

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Good point. But to be fair for most of modeling history those women have been skinnier than even the average skinny girl/woman. I never minded when they started adding in other models that were not a size 0 but maybe a 2-5. It was when they started trying to get the women that were 200-300 pounds or more that was too much. That isn't even healthy.

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nein51 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Guys, how many of you wished the NFL had more fat, slow, out of shape middle aged men for 'inclusivity"??

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You could argue that modeling is the one area that inclusivity actually makes some sense. Models as aspirational figures is awesome but models are there to sell clothes.

My wife actually fits the VS model mold well, her sister doesn't. VS needs to sell to both of them because there are far fewer women that look like my wife than her sister.

Showing a size 8 that she can look great and these clothes don't only look good on a size 0 does, actually, make some sense.

Trying to sell clothes only to thin women is a losing business proposition in this country because there are fewer and fewer of those by the day.

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Good point. But to be fair for most of modeling history those women have been skinnier than even the average skinny girl/woman. I never minded when they started adding in other models that were not a size 0 but maybe a 2-5. It was when they started trying to get the women that were 200-300 pounds or more that was too much. That isn't even healthy.

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I agree it isn't healthy but a clothing company is trying to sell clothes not health food. It's the job of their marketing dept to show that their clothes "make you look good".

The average American woman is a size 16-18 these days. The average height for an American woman is 5'4" and the average weight is 170-180lbs.

A size 2-6 was never average or near average. It was always quite small but it's really small these days. Most models are 24-26" waist but also between 5'9" and 6'0". Those girls you thought were a size 2-6 were probably more like a size 8-10.

Virtually no women in this country are 5'10" and a size 0. So while I don't think promoting unhealthy living is a good thing a model reflecting what average women look like does make some sense. Even if it's not flattering to look at.

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cowboycwr said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Guys, how many of you wished the NFL had more fat, slow, out of shape middle aged men for 'inclusivity"??

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You could argue that modeling is the one area that inclusivity actually makes some sense. Models as aspirational figures is awesome but models are there to sell clothes.

My wife actually fits the VS model mold well, her sister doesn't. VS needs to sell to both of them because there are far fewer women that look like my wife than her sister.

Showing a size 8 that she can look great and these clothes don't only look good on a size 0 does, actually, make some sense.

Trying to sell clothes only to thin women is a losing business proposition in this country because there are fewer and fewer of those by the day.

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Good point. But to be fair for most of modeling history those women have been skinnier than even the average skinny girl/woman. I never minded when they started adding in other models that were not a size 0 but maybe a 2-5. It was when they started trying to get the women that were 200-300 pounds or more that was too much. That isn't even healthy.

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cowboycwr said:

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nein51 said:

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cowboycwr said:

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nein51 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Guys, how many of you wished the NFL had more fat, slow, out of shape middle aged men for 'inclusivity"??

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You could argue that modeling is the one area that inclusivity actually makes some sense. Models as aspirational figures is awesome but models are there to sell clothes.

My wife actually fits the VS model mold well, her sister doesn't. VS needs to sell to both of them because there are far fewer women that look like my wife than her sister.

Showing a size 8 that she can look great and these clothes don't only look good on a size 0 does, actually, make some sense.

Trying to sell clothes only to thin women is a losing business proposition in this country because there are fewer and fewer of those by the day.

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Good point. But to be fair for most of modeling history those women have been skinnier than even the average skinny girl/woman. I never minded when they started adding in other models that were not a size 0 but maybe a 2-5. It was when they started trying to get the women that were 200-300 pounds or more that was too much. That isn't even healthy.

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I agree it isn't healthy but a clothing company is trying to sell clothes not health food. It's the job of their marketing dept to show that their clothes "make you look good".

The average American woman is a size 16-18 these days. The average height for an American woman is 5'4" and the average weight is 170-180lbs.

A size 2-6 was never average or near average. It was always quite small but it's really small these days. Most models are 24-26" waist but also between 5'9" and 6'0". Those girls you thought were a size 2-6 were probably more like a size 8-10.

Virtually no women in this country are 5'10" and a size 0. So while I don't think promoting unhealthy living is a good thing a model reflecting what average women look like does make some sense. Even if it's not flattering to look at.

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True but maybe I didn't explain what I meant well.

I don't find most models to be attractive. They are too skinny and anorexic looking to me. I don't want to see 300-400 pound models that have to roll from side to side just to walk.

But I do find women with curves and a healthy amount of meat on their bones attractive.

But most models, or even actresses, are like a straw. No curves. Pretty faces. Maybe big jugs but no curves to grab onto. Like Sydney Sweeney. Pretty face and big jugs. But no curves. Give me one with curves any day. That is the type of mode I would want to see.

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“So I wanted to come on here and talk about something that is really starting to annoy me... It’s impossible to find a job right now”pic.twitter.com/ehno8ELGxq

— Thomas Sowell Quotes (@ThomasSowell) October 16, 2025

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I can’t stop laughing at this headline pic.twitter.com/WmI1IcEWAm

— Ben Dreyfuss (@bendreyfuss) October 16, 2025

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This is what finally turns people from being liberal. They get the handbook, they follow the handbook, they do all the "right" things and it's not enough because it's never enough…because it's a game you can't win.

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So this is why. pic.twitter.com/PTRBiQ2jAE

— Shaughn_A (@Shaughn_A2) October 16, 2025

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I can’t stop laughing at this headline pic.twitter.com/WmI1IcEWAm

— Ben Dreyfuss (@bendreyfuss) October 16, 2025

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This is what finally turns people from being liberal. They get the handbook, they follow the handbook, they do all the "right" things and it's not enough because it's never enough…because it's a game you can't win.

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If you’re wondering how unhinged the Online Left ™️ discourse is today, they’re calling Taylor Swift a Neo Nazi because her new necklace has some lightning bolts.

I’d say you can’t make this nonsense up but they do.

Repeatedly. pic.twitter.com/WWXK3NuNuA

— JA Westenberg (@jawestenberg) October 13, 2025

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Jack Bauer said:

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Guys, how many of you wished the NFL had more fat, slow, out of shape middle aged men for 'inclusivity"??

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You could argue that modeling is the one area that inclusivity actually makes some sense. Models as aspirational figures is awesome but models are there to sell clothes.

My wife actually fits the VS model mold well, her sister doesn't. VS needs to sell to both of them because there are far fewer women that look like my wife than her sister.

Showing a size 8 that she can look great and these clothes don't only look good on a size 0 does, actually, make some sense.

Trying to sell clothes only to thin women is a losing business proposition in this country because there are fewer and fewer of those by the day.

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Good point. But to be fair for most of modeling history those women have been skinnier than even the average skinny girl/woman. I never minded when they started adding in other models that were not a size 0 but maybe a 2-5. It was when they started trying to get the women that were 200-300 pounds or more that was too much. That isn't even healthy.

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I agree it isn't healthy but a clothing company is trying to sell clothes not health food. It's the job of their marketing dept to show that their clothes "make you look good".

The average American woman is a size 16-18 these days. The average height for an American woman is 5'4" and the average weight is 170-180lbs.

A size 2-6 was never average or near average. It was always quite small but it's really small these days. Most models are 24-26" waist but also between 5'9" and 6'0". Those girls you thought were a size 2-6 were probably more like a size 8-10.

Virtually no women in this country are 5'10" and a size 0. So while I don't think promoting unhealthy living is a good thing a model reflecting what average women look like does make some sense. Even if it's not flattering to look at.

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True but maybe I didn't explain what I meant well.

I don't find most models to be attractive. They are too skinny and anorexic looking to me. I don't want to see 300-400 pound models that have to roll from side to side just to walk.

But I do find women with curves and a healthy amount of meat on their bones attractive.

But most models, or even actresses, are like a straw. No curves. Pretty faces. Maybe big jugs but no curves to grab onto. Like Sydney Sweeney. Pretty face and big jugs. But no curves. Give me one with curves any day. That is the type of mode I would want to see.

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Just so we are clear Sidney Sweeney is probably between a size 6-8. She's 5'3" - 120ish with a 30" waist.

Shes lost some weight but curvier than that and you're probably talking a size 12-14. I would wager she's a size 10 in this picture.

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I can’t stop laughing at this headline pic.twitter.com/WmI1IcEWAm

— Ben Dreyfuss (@bendreyfuss) October 16, 2025

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This is what finally turns people from being liberal. They get the handbook, they follow the handbook, they do all the "right" things and it's not enough because it's never enough…because it's a game you can't win.

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This is how you get MAGA...keep it up

If you’re wondering how unhinged the Online Left ™️ discourse is today, they’re calling Taylor Swift a Neo Nazi because her new necklace has some lightning bolts.

I’d say you can’t make this nonsense up but they do.

Repeatedly. pic.twitter.com/WWXK3NuNuA

— JA Westenberg (@jawestenberg) October 13, 2025

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I can’t stop laughing at this headline pic.twitter.com/WmI1IcEWAm

— Ben Dreyfuss (@bendreyfuss) October 16, 2025

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This is what finally turns people from being liberal. They get the handbook, they follow the handbook, they do all the "right" things and it's not enough because it's never enough…because it's a game you can't win.

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This is how you get MAGA...keep it up

If you’re wondering how unhinged the Online Left ™️ discourse is today, they’re calling Taylor Swift a Neo Nazi because her new necklace has some lightning bolts.

I’d say you can’t make this nonsense up but they do.

Repeatedly. pic.twitter.com/WWXK3NuNuA

— JA Westenberg (@jawestenberg) October 13, 2025

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Wait so now lightning symbols are off limits? Someone tell the weather apps and nightly news. Heck even cnn and msnbc need to be told. Then tell AC/DC, bruckheimer films, Gatorade and any other companies that use one….


Just a stupid claim.

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cowboycwr said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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I can’t stop laughing at this headline pic.twitter.com/WmI1IcEWAm

— Ben Dreyfuss (@bendreyfuss) October 16, 2025

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This is what finally turns people from being liberal. They get the handbook, they follow the handbook, they do all the "right" things and it's not enough because it's never enough…because it's a game you can't win.

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This is how you get MAGA...keep it up

If you’re wondering how unhinged the Online Left ™️ discourse is today, they’re calling Taylor Swift a Neo Nazi because her new necklace has some lightning bolts.

I’d say you can’t make this nonsense up but they do.

Repeatedly. pic.twitter.com/WWXK3NuNuA

— JA Westenberg (@jawestenberg) October 13, 2025

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Wait so now lightning symbols are off limits? Someone tell the weather apps and nightly news. Heck even cnn and msnbc need to be told. Then tell AC/DC, bruckheimer films, Gatorade and any other companies that use one….


Just a stupid claim.

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Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson is now proposing a new "head tax" to fix the deficit after destroying their budget.

All companies employing 100+ people in Chicago will have to pay a tax of $21 per employee per month, simply for having employees.

A punishment for hiring people. pic.twitter.com/yS4OyuGvlj

— Geiger Capital (@Geiger_Capital) October 16, 2025

Lord of the Rings ‘demonises people of colour’, students toldhttps://t.co/ch5esNptVM

— The Telegraph (@Telegraph) October 17, 2025

Jack Bauer said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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I can’t stop laughing at this headline pic.twitter.com/WmI1IcEWAm

— Ben Dreyfuss (@bendreyfuss) October 16, 2025

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This is what finally turns people from being liberal. They get the handbook, they follow the handbook, they do all the "right" things and it's not enough because it's never enough…because it's a game you can't win.

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This is how you get MAGA...keep it up

If you’re wondering how unhinged the Online Left ™️ discourse is today, they’re calling Taylor Swift a Neo Nazi because her new necklace has some lightning bolts.

I’d say you can’t make this nonsense up but they do.

Repeatedly. pic.twitter.com/WWXK3NuNuA

— JA Westenberg (@jawestenberg) October 13, 2025

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Wait so now lightning symbols are off limits? Someone tell the weather apps and nightly news. Heck even cnn and msnbc need to be told. Then tell AC/DC, bruckheimer films, Gatorade and any other companies that use one….


Just a stupid claim.

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Remember this gem:

The OK hand sign has been added to a list of hate symbols.
The finger-and-thumb gesture - which is also a popular emoji - is being used by some as a "sincere expression of white supremacy", according to the Anti-Defamation League (ADL).
But the US anti-hate group says the "overwhelming usage" of the hand gesture today is still to show approval or that someone is OK.
Therefore "particular care must be taken not to jump to conclusions about the intent behind someone who has used the gesture".

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Jack Bauer said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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nein51 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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I can’t stop laughing at this headline pic.twitter.com/WmI1IcEWAm

— Ben Dreyfuss (@bendreyfuss) October 16, 2025

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This is what finally turns people from being liberal. They get the handbook, they follow the handbook, they do all the "right" things and it's not enough because it's never enough…because it's a game you can't win.

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This is how you get MAGA...keep it up

If you’re wondering how unhinged the Online Left ™️ discourse is today, they’re calling Taylor Swift a Neo Nazi because her new necklace has some lightning bolts.

I’d say you can’t make this nonsense up but they do.

Repeatedly. pic.twitter.com/WWXK3NuNuA

— JA Westenberg (@jawestenberg) October 13, 2025

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Wait so now lightning symbols are off limits? Someone tell the weather apps and nightly news. Heck even cnn and msnbc need to be told. Then tell AC/DC, bruckheimer films, Gatorade and any other companies that use one….


Just a stupid claim.

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Remember this gem:

The OK hand sign has been added to a list of hate symbols.
The finger-and-thumb gesture - which is also a popular emoji - is being used by some as a "sincere expression of white supremacy", according to the Anti-Defamation League (ADL).
But the US anti-hate group says the "overwhelming usage" of the hand gesture today is still to show approval or that someone is OK.
Therefore "particular care must be taken not to jump to conclusions about the intent behind someone who has used the gesture".

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WOW
NO KINGS rally upstate New York pic.twitter.com/UG9JCa69a0

— miguelifornia (@miguelifornia) October 19, 2025

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WOW
NO KINGS rally upstate New York pic.twitter.com/UG9JCa69a0

— miguelifornia (@miguelifornia) October 19, 2025

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That picture is probably 50 + years old as if you zoom in you can see that the clothes are not what people are wearing today.

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NO KINGS rally upstate New York pic.twitter.com/UG9JCa69a0

— miguelifornia (@miguelifornia) October 19, 2025

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somethings off, no fatties in that picture.. almost like it was taken 40 years ago

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What do you think their gender is?
😳😳 pic.twitter.com/c2DUaTdFlu

— Sadie (@Sadie_NC) October 19, 2025

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What do you think their gender is?
😳😳 pic.twitter.com/c2DUaTdFlu

— Sadie (@Sadie_NC) October 19, 2025

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What do you think their gender is?
😳😳 pic.twitter.com/c2DUaTdFlu

— Sadie (@Sadie_NC) October 19, 2025

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Who would ever willingly breed with such a fat blob ?

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