FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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"Im a man but I know i have no chance against biological men so I will compete against women"

Stunning and brave.

Winter Olympics makes history with first openly transgender skier competing in women's division

Elis Lundholm is a biological female skier who identifies as a male but will be competing in the women's division pic.twitter.com/dE952kKDPK

— TaraBull (@TaraBull) February 7, 2026

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She's not a man. She's a woman that identifies as a man…when it's convenient.

This trans stuff is looney tunes. It's somewhat hysterical that we (collectively) have largely agreed to just go "ok, whatever makes you happy" rather than "what in the actual f8ck are you talking about".

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What does here Chromosomes say? Is her levels of Testosterone within female range? If so, she should compete as a women. If not, she is a man. Period. In todays age of better bodies through chemistry, there has to be set standards, either you are in or out. What you call yourself is irrelevant.

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She's a biological woman so XX

I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

---

I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

---

The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

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I hear you.

One of the things I have been glad to see is the Church has recognized that they can help people more if they let them take part, not shun or ostracize them. As you said, they need help and understanding.

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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"Im a man but I know i have no chance against biological men so I will compete against women"

Stunning and brave.

Winter Olympics makes history with first openly transgender skier competing in women's division

Elis Lundholm is a biological female skier who identifies as a male but will be competing in the women's division pic.twitter.com/dE952kKDPK

— TaraBull (@TaraBull) February 7, 2026

---

She's not a man. She's a woman that identifies as a man…when it's convenient.

This trans stuff is looney tunes. It's somewhat hysterical that we (collectively) have largely agreed to just go "ok, whatever makes you happy" rather than "what in the actual f8ck are you talking about".

---

What does here Chromosomes say? Is her levels of Testosterone within female range? If so, she should compete as a women. If not, she is a man. Period. In todays age of better bodies through chemistry, there has to be set standards, either you are in or out. What you call yourself is irrelevant.

---

She's a biological woman so XX

I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

---

I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

---

The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

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I hear you.

One of the things I have been glad to see is the Church has recognized that they can help people more if they let them take part, not shun or ostracize them. As you said, they need help and understanding.

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What a shock that you treat religious borders the same as our country's. Let me guess where this goes: you want to be welcoming of unrepentant LGBT non-believers across your church "border" in order to "help" and "understand" them; then when anyone tries to remove them from your church in order to keep the church only for believers ("legal residents"), cry about how "mean" your church looks and how badly your church is behaving, and how your church must therefore keep them in. Then, when they, along with sympathizers gain in numbers, cry about how your church has to compromise its own beliefs and cater to the LGBT lifestyle, or you'll lose members.

Sound about right?

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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"Im a man but I know i have no chance against biological men so I will compete against women"

Stunning and brave.

Winter Olympics makes history with first openly transgender skier competing in women's division

Elis Lundholm is a biological female skier who identifies as a male but will be competing in the women's division pic.twitter.com/dE952kKDPK

— TaraBull (@TaraBull) February 7, 2026

---

She's not a man. She's a woman that identifies as a man…when it's convenient.

This trans stuff is looney tunes. It's somewhat hysterical that we (collectively) have largely agreed to just go "ok, whatever makes you happy" rather than "what in the actual f8ck are you talking about".

---

What does here Chromosomes say? Is her levels of Testosterone within female range? If so, she should compete as a women. If not, she is a man. Period. In todays age of better bodies through chemistry, there has to be set standards, either you are in or out. What you call yourself is irrelevant.

---

She's a biological woman so XX

I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

---

I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

---

The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

---

I hear you.

One of the things I have been glad to see is the Church has recognized that they can help people more if they let them take part, not shun or ostracize them. As you said, they need help and understanding.

---

What a shock that you treat religious borders the same as our country's. Let me guess where this goes: you want to be welcoming of unrepentant LGBT non-believers across your church "border" in order to "help" and "understand" them; then when anyone tries to remove them from your church in order to keep the church only for believers ("legal residents"), cry about how "mean" your church looks and how badly your church is behaving, and how your church must therefore keep them in. Then, when they, along with sympathizers gain in numbers, cry about how your church has to compromise its own beliefs and cater to the LGBT lifestyle, or you'll lose members.

Sound about right?

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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"Im a man but I know i have no chance against biological men so I will compete against women"

Stunning and brave.

Winter Olympics makes history with first openly transgender skier competing in women's division

Elis Lundholm is a biological female skier who identifies as a male but will be competing in the women's division pic.twitter.com/dE952kKDPK

— TaraBull (@TaraBull) February 7, 2026

---

She's not a man. She's a woman that identifies as a man…when it's convenient.

This trans stuff is looney tunes. It's somewhat hysterical that we (collectively) have largely agreed to just go "ok, whatever makes you happy" rather than "what in the actual f8ck are you talking about".

---

What does here Chromosomes say? Is her levels of Testosterone within female range? If so, she should compete as a women. If not, she is a man. Period. In todays age of better bodies through chemistry, there has to be set standards, either you are in or out. What you call yourself is irrelevant.

---

She's a biological woman so XX

I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

---

I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

---

The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

---

I hear you.

One of the things I have been glad to see is the Church has recognized that they can help people more if they let them take part, not shun or ostracize them. As you said, they need help and understanding.

---

What a shock that you treat religious borders the same as our country's. Let me guess where this goes: you want to be welcoming of unrepentant LGBT non-believers across your church "border" in order to "help" and "understand" them; then when anyone tries to remove them from your church in order to keep the church only for believers ("legal residents"), cry about how "mean" your church looks and how badly your church is behaving, and how your church must therefore keep them in. Then, when they, along with sympathizers gain in numbers, cry about how your church has to compromise its own beliefs and cater to the LGBT lifestyle, or you'll lose members.

Sound about right?

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Isn't the goal to turn them away from evil and to God?? I guess beating or ignoring them will get the job done. Fishers of men, mean anything to you?

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The goal of immigration was to turn outsiders into Americans.

But we're seeing how your subversive goal is to turn Americans into outsiders.

Therefore, there's no reason to believe you aren't trying to do the same to your church.

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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"Im a man but I know i have no chance against biological men so I will compete against women"

Stunning and brave.

Winter Olympics makes history with first openly transgender skier competing in women's division

Elis Lundholm is a biological female skier who identifies as a male but will be competing in the women's division pic.twitter.com/dE952kKDPK

— TaraBull (@TaraBull) February 7, 2026

---

She's not a man. She's a woman that identifies as a man…when it's convenient.

This trans stuff is looney tunes. It's somewhat hysterical that we (collectively) have largely agreed to just go "ok, whatever makes you happy" rather than "what in the actual f8ck are you talking about".

---

What does here Chromosomes say? Is her levels of Testosterone within female range? If so, she should compete as a women. If not, she is a man. Period. In todays age of better bodies through chemistry, there has to be set standards, either you are in or out. What you call yourself is irrelevant.

---

She's a biological woman so XX

I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

---

I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

---

The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

---

I hear you.

One of the things I have been glad to see is the Church has recognized that they can help people more if they let them take part, not shun or ostracize them. As you said, they need help and understanding.

---

What a shock that you treat religious borders the same as our country's. Let me guess where this goes: you want to be welcoming of unrepentant LGBT non-believers across your church "border" in order to "help" and "understand" them; then when anyone tries to remove them from your church in order to keep the church only for believers ("legal residents"), cry about how "mean" your church looks and how badly your church is behaving, and how your church must therefore keep them in. Then, when they, along with sympathizers gain in numbers, cry about how your church has to compromise its own beliefs and cater to the LGBT lifestyle, or you'll lose members.

Sound about right?

---

Isn't the goal to turn them away from evil and to God?? I guess beating or ignoring them will get the job done. Fishers of men, mean anything to you?

---

The goal of immigration was to turn outsiders into Americans.

But we're seeing how your subversive goal is to turn Americans into outsiders.

Therefore, there's no reason to believe you aren't trying to do the same to your church.

---

What are you talking about??????

subversive goal? You need to step away from the bong...

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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"Im a man but I know i have no chance against biological men so I will compete against women"

Stunning and brave.

Winter Olympics makes history with first openly transgender skier competing in women's division

Elis Lundholm is a biological female skier who identifies as a male but will be competing in the women's division pic.twitter.com/dE952kKDPK

— TaraBull (@TaraBull) February 7, 2026

---

She's not a man. She's a woman that identifies as a man…when it's convenient.

This trans stuff is looney tunes. It's somewhat hysterical that we (collectively) have largely agreed to just go "ok, whatever makes you happy" rather than "what in the actual f8ck are you talking about".

---

What does here Chromosomes say? Is her levels of Testosterone within female range? If so, she should compete as a women. If not, she is a man. Period. In todays age of better bodies through chemistry, there has to be set standards, either you are in or out. What you call yourself is irrelevant.

---

She's a biological woman so XX

I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

---

I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

---

The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

---

I hear you.

One of the things I have been glad to see is the Church has recognized that they can help people more if they let them take part, not shun or ostracize them. As you said, they need help and understanding.

---

What a shock that you treat religious borders the same as our country's. Let me guess where this goes: you want to be welcoming of unrepentant LGBT non-believers across your church "border" in order to "help" and "understand" them; then when anyone tries to remove them from your church in order to keep the church only for believers ("legal residents"), cry about how "mean" your church looks and how badly your church is behaving, and how your church must therefore keep them in. Then, when they, along with sympathizers gain in numbers, cry about how your church has to compromise its own beliefs and cater to the LGBT lifestyle, or you'll lose members.

Sound about right?

---

Isn't the goal to turn them away from evil and to God?? I guess beating or ignoring them will get the job done. Fishers of men, mean anything to you?

---

The goal of immigration was to turn outsiders into Americans.

But we're seeing how your subversive goal is to turn Americans into outsiders.

Therefore, there's no reason to believe you aren't trying to do the same to your church.

---

What are you talking about??????

subversive goal? You need to step away from the bong...

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So, you sell yourself as a Roman Catholic to your church.... all while revealing that you don't even believe in their dogmas and that you believe the apostle Paul was a "jerk" whose writings should not be Scripture, and now you're advocating compromising your church's beliefs to cater to LGBT...

... and you don't think there's reason for anyone to believe you're "subversive"?

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FormerFlash said:

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The position of the church should always be to love and embrace the sinner, not the sin. No, we should not blanket turn away those living certain lifestyles. We should also definitely not cater to, endorse, or be accepting off those lifestyles in any way either. No true believer in Christ should advocate for either of those two outcomes. Love the sinner. Hate the sin.

It is possible to hit a point, in my opinion, when a church may have to have a very clear and harsh conversation with an individual who is openly living in that sin and choosing not to repent or turn from it. And that goes for any sin, not just LGBT lifestyles.

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FLBear5630 said:

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FormerFlash said:

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The position of the church should always be to love and embrace the sinner, not the sin. No, we should not blanket turn away those living certain lifestyles. We should also definitely not cater to, endorse, or be accepting off those lifestyles in any way either. No true believer in Christ should advocate for either of those two outcomes. Love the sinner. Hate the sin.

It is possible to hit a point, in my opinion, when a church may have to have a very clear and harsh conversation with an individual who is openly living in that sin and choosing not to repent or turn from it. And that goes for any sin, not just LGBT lifestyles.

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You know there is more than LGBT... Actually, most of the people I was thinking of were addicted, adulterers, divorcees, or just non-believers. Or, like Jesus dealt with Mathew the tax collector, worshipping money. I would bet the number of LGBT cases are low when looking at who the Church is helping in their programs.

A sin is a sin, right? Worshipping the pursuit of money is just as bad as LGBT...

Seem to be a lot of people focusing on LGBT...

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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FormerFlash said:

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The position of the church should always be to love and embrace the sinner, not the sin. No, we should not blanket turn away those living certain lifestyles. We should also definitely not cater to, endorse, or be accepting off those lifestyles in any way either. No true believer in Christ should advocate for either of those two outcomes. Love the sinner. Hate the sin.

It is possible to hit a point, in my opinion, when a church may have to have a very clear and harsh conversation with an individual who is openly living in that sin and choosing not to repent or turn from it. And that goes for any sin, not just LGBT lifestyles.

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You know there is more than LGBT... Actually, most of the people I was thinking of were addicted, adulterers, divorcees, or just non-believers. Or, like Jesus dealt with Mathew the tax collector, worshipping money. I would bet the number of LGBT cases are low when looking at who the Church is helping in their programs.

A sin is a sin, right? Worshipping the pursuit of money is just as bad as LGBT...

Seem to be a lot of people focusing on LGBT...

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Like you demonizing people pushing for a balanced economy because it negatively impacts your finances?
That kind of money worship?

Or are you allowed self serving opinions while other folks are denied opinions of conscience?

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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FormerFlash said:

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The position of the church should always be to love and embrace the sinner, not the sin. No, we should not blanket turn away those living certain lifestyles. We should also definitely not cater to, endorse, or be accepting off those lifestyles in any way either. No true believer in Christ should advocate for either of those two outcomes. Love the sinner. Hate the sin.

It is possible to hit a point, in my opinion, when a church may have to have a very clear and harsh conversation with an individual who is openly living in that sin and choosing not to repent or turn from it. And that goes for any sin, not just LGBT lifestyles.

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You know there is more than LGBT... Actually, most of the people I was thinking of were addicted, adulterers, divorcees, or just non-believers. Or, like Jesus dealt with Mathew the tax collector, worshipping money. I would bet the number of LGBT cases are low when looking at who the Church is helping in their programs.

A sin is a sin, right? Worshipping the pursuit of money is just as bad as LGBT...

Seem to be a lot of people focusing on LGBT...

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Like you demonizing people pushing for a balanced economy because it negatively impacts your finances?
That kind of money worship?

Or are you allowed self serving opinions while other folks are denied opinions of conscience?

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Balanced Economy? Isn't that a little 30,000 feet from this discussion. If, for example, I had the power to select currencies for the US Treasury to purchase and owned those currencies so my policy resulted in a profit? I agree that would be self-serving. But, for this group how could any opinion be a realized self-serving gain? We are spectators. No one here is setting policy.

Self-serving - Just curious, how? Just how does one "benefit" from this discussion? Why is discussing other issues beside LGBT demonizing? You guys have no issues telling people they are wrong. Hell, the person I was conversing with tells me what I believe and how wrong it is constantly. A differing opinion is self-serving?

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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"Im a man but I know i have no chance against biological men so I will compete against women"

Stunning and brave.

Winter Olympics makes history with first openly transgender skier competing in women's division

Elis Lundholm is a biological female skier who identifies as a male but will be competing in the women's division pic.twitter.com/dE952kKDPK

— TaraBull (@TaraBull) February 7, 2026

---

She's not a man. She's a woman that identifies as a man…when it's convenient.

This trans stuff is looney tunes. It's somewhat hysterical that we (collectively) have largely agreed to just go "ok, whatever makes you happy" rather than "what in the actual f8ck are you talking about".

---

What does here Chromosomes say? Is her levels of Testosterone within female range? If so, she should compete as a women. If not, she is a man. Period. In todays age of better bodies through chemistry, there has to be set standards, either you are in or out. What you call yourself is irrelevant.

---

She's a biological woman so XX

I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

---

I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

---

The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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"Im a man but I know i have no chance against biological men so I will compete against women"

Stunning and brave.

Winter Olympics makes history with first openly transgender skier competing in women's division

Elis Lundholm is a biological female skier who identifies as a male but will be competing in the women's division pic.twitter.com/dE952kKDPK

— TaraBull (@TaraBull) February 7, 2026

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She's not a man. She's a woman that identifies as a man…when it's convenient.

This trans stuff is looney tunes. It's somewhat hysterical that we (collectively) have largely agreed to just go "ok, whatever makes you happy" rather than "what in the actual f8ck are you talking about".

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What does here Chromosomes say? Is her levels of Testosterone within female range? If so, she should compete as a women. If not, she is a man. Period. In todays age of better bodies through chemistry, there has to be set standards, either you are in or out. What you call yourself is irrelevant.

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She's a biological woman so XX

I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

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I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

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The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

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I hear you.

One of the things I have been glad to see is the Church has recognized that they can help people more if they let them take part, not shun or ostracize them. As you said, they need help and understanding.

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What a shock that you treat religious borders the same as our country's. Let me guess where this goes: you want to be welcoming of unrepentant LGBT non-believers across your church "border" in order to "help" and "understand" them; then when anyone tries to remove them from your church in order to keep the church only for believers ("legal residents"), cry about how "mean" your church looks and how badly your church is behaving, and how your church must therefore keep them in. Then, when they, along with sympathizers gain in numbers, cry about how your church has to compromise its own beliefs and cater to the LGBT lifestyle, or you'll lose members.

Sound about right?

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Isn't the goal to turn them away from evil and to God?? I guess beating or ignoring them will get the job done. Fishers of men, mean anything to you?

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The goal of immigration was to turn outsiders into Americans.

But we're seeing how your subversive goal is to turn Americans into outsiders.

Therefore, there's no reason to believe you aren't trying to do the same to your church.

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What are you talking about??????

subversive goal? You need to step away from the bong...

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So, you sell yourself as a Roman Catholic to your church.... all while revealing that you don't even believe in their dogmas and that you believe the apostle Paul was a "jerk" whose writings should not be Scripture, and now you're advocating compromising your church's beliefs to cater to LGBT...

... and you don't think there's reason for anyone to believe you're "subversive"?

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I know critical thinking to form your own opinions is foreign to you, as shown by your lock step believe in whatever your Church or MAGA tell you.

How do you help people if you turn them away? You honestly think (yes, think not be told) that the Jesus of the scriptures would say turn them away? Did he do that with his disciples? Is that really the message YOU got, not what some Pastor told you. You think Jesus would turn his back on those people? That everyone that heard him speak never struggled with sin? Or listened to him multiple times before changing their lives?

Have your own opinions. Stop being a sheep.

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KaiBear said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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"Im a man but I know i have no chance against biological men so I will compete against women"

Stunning and brave.

Winter Olympics makes history with first openly transgender skier competing in women's division

Elis Lundholm is a biological female skier who identifies as a male but will be competing in the women's division pic.twitter.com/dE952kKDPK

— TaraBull (@TaraBull) February 7, 2026

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She's not a man. She's a woman that identifies as a man…when it's convenient.

This trans stuff is looney tunes. It's somewhat hysterical that we (collectively) have largely agreed to just go "ok, whatever makes you happy" rather than "what in the actual f8ck are you talking about".

---

What does here Chromosomes say? Is her levels of Testosterone within female range? If so, she should compete as a women. If not, she is a man. Period. In todays age of better bodies through chemistry, there has to be set standards, either you are in or out. What you call yourself is irrelevant.

---

She's a biological woman so XX

I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

---

I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

---

The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

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I have always avoided trans folks; and will continue to do so.

If someone wants to strap on their mental issues by all means knock your self out.

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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FormerFlash said:

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The position of the church should always be to love and embrace the sinner, not the sin. No, we should not blanket turn away those living certain lifestyles. We should also definitely not cater to, endorse, or be accepting off those lifestyles in any way either. No true believer in Christ should advocate for either of those two outcomes. Love the sinner. Hate the sin.

It is possible to hit a point, in my opinion, when a church may have to have a very clear and harsh conversation with an individual who is openly living in that sin and choosing not to repent or turn from it. And that goes for any sin, not just LGBT lifestyles.

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You know there is more than LGBT... Actually, most of the people I was thinking of were addicted, adulterers, divorcees, or just non-believers. Or, like Jesus dealt with Mathew the tax collector, worshipping money. I would bet the number of LGBT cases are low when looking at who the Church is helping in their programs.

A sin is a sin, right? Worshipping the pursuit of money is just as bad as LGBT...

Seem to be a lot of people focusing on LGBT...

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Like you demonizing people pushing for a balanced economy because it negatively impacts your finances?
That kind of money worship?

Or are you allowed self serving opinions while other folks are denied opinions of conscience?

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Balanced Economy? Isn't that a little 30,000 feet from this discussion. If, for example, I had the power to select currencies for the US Treasury to purchase and owned those currencies so my policy resulted in a profit? I agree that would be self-serving. But, for this group how could any opinion be a realized self-serving gain? We are spectators. No one here is setting policy.

Self-serving - Just curious, how? Just how does one "benefit" from this discussion? Why is discussing other issues beside LGBT demonizing? You guys have no issues telling people they are wrong. Hell, the person I was conversing with tells me what I believe and how wrong it is constantly. A differing opinion is self-serving?

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Reading comprehension. Try it.

You offer self serving economic opinions but deride others for offering cultural opinions. You then play the religion card.
Throwing rocks from your glass house.

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nein51 said:

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KaiBear said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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"Im a man but I know i have no chance against biological men so I will compete against women"

Stunning and brave.

Winter Olympics makes history with first openly transgender skier competing in women's division

Elis Lundholm is a biological female skier who identifies as a male but will be competing in the women's division pic.twitter.com/dE952kKDPK

— TaraBull (@TaraBull) February 7, 2026

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She's not a man. She's a woman that identifies as a man…when it's convenient.

This trans stuff is looney tunes. It's somewhat hysterical that we (collectively) have largely agreed to just go "ok, whatever makes you happy" rather than "what in the actual f8ck are you talking about".

---

What does here Chromosomes say? Is her levels of Testosterone within female range? If so, she should compete as a women. If not, she is a man. Period. In todays age of better bodies through chemistry, there has to be set standards, either you are in or out. What you call yourself is irrelevant.

---

She's a biological woman so XX

I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

---

I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

---

The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

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I have always avoided trans folks; and will continue to do so.

If someone wants to strap on their mental issues by all means knock your self out.

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Yeah I don't get it at all. It's a clear mental health disorder. I also don't actively seek to hang out with other mental health patients.

That's doesn't mean those people don't deserve compassion and pity. Unfortunately, the trans just make it much harder because they are so vocal and obnoxious.

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Kid Rock's 'Bawitdaba' Added To Hymnals https://t.co/q96HMUnx2S pic.twitter.com/ThPwHrQPRw

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) February 12, 2026

BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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"Im a man but I know i have no chance against biological men so I will compete against women"

Stunning and brave.

Winter Olympics makes history with first openly transgender skier competing in women's division

Elis Lundholm is a biological female skier who identifies as a male but will be competing in the women's division pic.twitter.com/dE952kKDPK

— TaraBull (@TaraBull) February 7, 2026

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She's not a man. She's a woman that identifies as a man…when it's convenient.

This trans stuff is looney tunes. It's somewhat hysterical that we (collectively) have largely agreed to just go "ok, whatever makes you happy" rather than "what in the actual f8ck are you talking about".

---

What does here Chromosomes say? Is her levels of Testosterone within female range? If so, she should compete as a women. If not, she is a man. Period. In todays age of better bodies through chemistry, there has to be set standards, either you are in or out. What you call yourself is irrelevant.

---

She's a biological woman so XX

I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

---

I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

---

The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

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I hear you.

One of the things I have been glad to see is the Church has recognized that they can help people more if they let them take part, not shun or ostracize them. As you said, they need help and understanding.

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What a shock that you treat religious borders the same as our country's. Let me guess where this goes: you want to be welcoming of unrepentant LGBT non-believers across your church "border" in order to "help" and "understand" them; then when anyone tries to remove them from your church in order to keep the church only for believers ("legal residents"), cry about how "mean" your church looks and how badly your church is behaving, and how your church must therefore keep them in. Then, when they, along with sympathizers gain in numbers, cry about how your church has to compromise its own beliefs and cater to the LGBT lifestyle, or you'll lose members.

Sound about right?

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Isn't the goal to turn them away from evil and to God?? I guess beating or ignoring them will get the job done. Fishers of men, mean anything to you?

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The goal of immigration was to turn outsiders into Americans.

But we're seeing how your subversive goal is to turn Americans into outsiders.

Therefore, there's no reason to believe you aren't trying to do the same to your church.

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What are you talking about??????

subversive goal? You need to step away from the bong...

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So, you sell yourself as a Roman Catholic to your church.... all while revealing that you don't even believe in their dogmas and that you believe the apostle Paul was a "jerk" whose writings should not be Scripture, and now you're advocating compromising your church's beliefs to cater to LGBT...

... and you don't think there's reason for anyone to believe you're "subversive"?

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I know critical thinking to form your own opinions is foreign to you, as shown by your lock step believe in whatever your Church or MAGA tell you.

How do you help people if you turn them away? You honestly think (yes, think not be told) that the Jesus of the scriptures would say turn them away? Did he do that with his disciples? Is that really the message YOU got, not what some Pastor told you. You think Jesus would turn his back on those people? That everyone that heard him speak never struggled with sin? Or listened to him multiple times before changing their lives?

Have your own opinions. Stop being a sheep.

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Let me ask you this: do you, when you invite LGBT people into your church, tell them that their lifestyle is sinful, and that they must repent of it in order to be a member?

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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"Im a man but I know i have no chance against biological men so I will compete against women"

Stunning and brave.

Winter Olympics makes history with first openly transgender skier competing in women's division

Elis Lundholm is a biological female skier who identifies as a male but will be competing in the women's division pic.twitter.com/dE952kKDPK

— TaraBull (@TaraBull) February 7, 2026

---

She's not a man. She's a woman that identifies as a man…when it's convenient.

This trans stuff is looney tunes. It's somewhat hysterical that we (collectively) have largely agreed to just go "ok, whatever makes you happy" rather than "what in the actual f8ck are you talking about".

---

What does here Chromosomes say? Is her levels of Testosterone within female range? If so, she should compete as a women. If not, she is a man. Period. In todays age of better bodies through chemistry, there has to be set standards, either you are in or out. What you call yourself is irrelevant.

---

She's a biological woman so XX

I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

---

I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

---

The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

---

I hear you.

One of the things I have been glad to see is the Church has recognized that they can help people more if they let them take part, not shun or ostracize them. As you said, they need help and understanding.

---

What a shock that you treat religious borders the same as our country's. Let me guess where this goes: you want to be welcoming of unrepentant LGBT non-believers across your church "border" in order to "help" and "understand" them; then when anyone tries to remove them from your church in order to keep the church only for believers ("legal residents"), cry about how "mean" your church looks and how badly your church is behaving, and how your church must therefore keep them in. Then, when they, along with sympathizers gain in numbers, cry about how your church has to compromise its own beliefs and cater to the LGBT lifestyle, or you'll lose members.

Sound about right?

---

Isn't the goal to turn them away from evil and to God?? I guess beating or ignoring them will get the job done. Fishers of men, mean anything to you?

---

The goal of immigration was to turn outsiders into Americans.

But we're seeing how your subversive goal is to turn Americans into outsiders.

Therefore, there's no reason to believe you aren't trying to do the same to your church.

---

What are you talking about??????

subversive goal? You need to step away from the bong...

---

So, you sell yourself as a Roman Catholic to your church.... all while revealing that you don't even believe in their dogmas and that you believe the apostle Paul was a "jerk" whose writings should not be Scripture, and now you're advocating compromising your church's beliefs to cater to LGBT...

... and you don't think there's reason for anyone to believe you're "subversive"?

---

I know critical thinking to form your own opinions is foreign to you, as shown by your lock step believe in whatever your Church or MAGA tell you.

How do you help people if you turn them away? You honestly think (yes, think not be told) that the Jesus of the scriptures would say turn them away? Did he do that with his disciples? Is that really the message YOU got, not what some Pastor told you. You think Jesus would turn his back on those people? That everyone that heard him speak never struggled with sin? Or listened to him multiple times before changing their lives?

Have your own opinions. Stop being a sheep.

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Let me ask you this: do you, when you invite LGBT people into your church, tell them that their lifestyle is sinful, and that they must repent of it in order to be a member?

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FLBear, can I get an answer? When do you get around to telling them their lifestyle is sinful, and that being in the church requires them to repent?

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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"Im a man but I know i have no chance against biological men so I will compete against women"

Stunning and brave.

Winter Olympics makes history with first openly transgender skier competing in women's division

Elis Lundholm is a biological female skier who identifies as a male but will be competing in the women's division pic.twitter.com/dE952kKDPK

— TaraBull (@TaraBull) February 7, 2026

---

She's not a man. She's a woman that identifies as a man…when it's convenient.

This trans stuff is looney tunes. It's somewhat hysterical that we (collectively) have largely agreed to just go "ok, whatever makes you happy" rather than "what in the actual f8ck are you talking about".

---

What does here Chromosomes say? Is her levels of Testosterone within female range? If so, she should compete as a women. If not, she is a man. Period. In todays age of better bodies through chemistry, there has to be set standards, either you are in or out. What you call yourself is irrelevant.

---

She's a biological woman so XX

I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

---

I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

---

The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

---

I hear you.

One of the things I have been glad to see is the Church has recognized that they can help people more if they let them take part, not shun or ostracize them. As you said, they need help and understanding.

---

What a shock that you treat religious borders the same as our country's. Let me guess where this goes: you want to be welcoming of unrepentant LGBT non-believers across your church "border" in order to "help" and "understand" them; then when anyone tries to remove them from your church in order to keep the church only for believers ("legal residents"), cry about how "mean" your church looks and how badly your church is behaving, and how your church must therefore keep them in. Then, when they, along with sympathizers gain in numbers, cry about how your church has to compromise its own beliefs and cater to the LGBT lifestyle, or you'll lose members.

Sound about right?

---

Isn't the goal to turn them away from evil and to God?? I guess beating or ignoring them will get the job done. Fishers of men, mean anything to you?

---

The goal of immigration was to turn outsiders into Americans.

But we're seeing how your subversive goal is to turn Americans into outsiders.

Therefore, there's no reason to believe you aren't trying to do the same to your church.

---

What are you talking about??????

subversive goal? You need to step away from the bong...

---

So, you sell yourself as a Roman Catholic to your church.... all while revealing that you don't even believe in their dogmas and that you believe the apostle Paul was a "jerk" whose writings should not be Scripture, and now you're advocating compromising your church's beliefs to cater to LGBT...

... and you don't think there's reason for anyone to believe you're "subversive"?

---

I know critical thinking to form your own opinions is foreign to you, as shown by your lock step believe in whatever your Church or MAGA tell you.

How do you help people if you turn them away? You honestly think (yes, think not be told) that the Jesus of the scriptures would say turn them away? Did he do that with his disciples? Is that really the message YOU got, not what some Pastor told you. You think Jesus would turn his back on those people? That everyone that heard him speak never struggled with sin? Or listened to him multiple times before changing their lives?

Have your own opinions. Stop being a sheep.

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Sir or ma'am, if I'm the one lacking in critical thinking, then you are an ocean sponge.

And why should we take seriously the opinions of someone who lies to his/her own church every Sunday and during every mass? Do you honestly think that you're in the position to know what's best for the church?

Let me ask you this: do you, when you invite LGBT people into your church, tell them that their lifestyle is sinful, and that they must repent of it in order to be a member?

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4th and Inches said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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"Im a man but I know i have no chance against biological men so I will compete against women"

Stunning and brave.

Winter Olympics makes history with first openly transgender skier competing in women's division

Elis Lundholm is a biological female skier who identifies as a male but will be competing in the women's division pic.twitter.com/dE952kKDPK

— TaraBull (@TaraBull) February 7, 2026

---

She's not a man. She's a woman that identifies as a man…when it's convenient.

This trans stuff is looney tunes. It's somewhat hysterical that we (collectively) have largely agreed to just go "ok, whatever makes you happy" rather than "what in the actual f8ck are you talking about".

---

What does here Chromosomes say? Is her levels of Testosterone within female range? If so, she should compete as a women. If not, she is a man. Period. In todays age of better bodies through chemistry, there has to be set standards, either you are in or out. What you call yourself is irrelevant.

---

She's a biological woman so XX

I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

---

I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

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The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

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I hear you.

One of the things I have been glad to see is the Church has recognized that they can help people more if they let them take part, not shun or ostracize them. As you said, they need help and understanding.

---

What a shock that you treat religious borders the same as our country's. Let me guess where this goes: you want to be welcoming of unrepentant LGBT non-believers across your church "border" in order to "help" and "understand" them; then when anyone tries to remove them from your church in order to keep the church only for believers ("legal residents"), cry about how "mean" your church looks and how badly your church is behaving, and how your church must therefore keep them in. Then, when they, along with sympathizers gain in numbers, cry about how your church has to compromise its own beliefs and cater to the LGBT lifestyle, or you'll lose members.

Sound about right?

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Isn't the goal to turn them away from evil and to God?? I guess beating or ignoring them will get the job done. Fishers of men, mean anything to you?

---

The goal of immigration was to turn outsiders into Americans.

But we're seeing how your subversive goal is to turn Americans into outsiders.

Therefore, there's no reason to believe you aren't trying to do the same to your church.

---

What are you talking about??????

subversive goal? You need to step away from the bong...

---

So, you sell yourself as a Roman Catholic to your church.... all while revealing that you don't even believe in their dogmas and that you believe the apostle Paul was a "jerk" whose writings should not be Scripture, and now you're advocating compromising your church's beliefs to cater to LGBT...

... and you don't think there's reason for anyone to believe you're "subversive"?

---

I know critical thinking to form your own opinions is foreign to you, as shown by your lock step believe in whatever your Church or MAGA tell you.

How do you help people if you turn them away? You honestly think (yes, think not be told) that the Jesus of the scriptures would say turn them away? Did he do that with his disciples? Is that really the message YOU got, not what some Pastor told you. You think Jesus would turn his back on those people? That everyone that heard him speak never struggled with sin? Or listened to him multiple times before changing their lives?

Have your own opinions. Stop being a sheep.

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Let me ask you this: do you, when you invite LGBT people into your church, tell them that their lifestyle is sinful, and that they must repent of it in order to be a member?

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FLBear, can I get an answer? When do you get around to telling them their lifestyle is sinful, and that being in the church requires them to repent?

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if sin prevent people from being members of the church, then its an empty building.. Ekklesia is a Greek term that means "assembly" or "gathering,"

Every man, woman, and child is born a sinner.. all are called to gather to worship the one true savior Jesus Christ.

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9

"Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective." James 5:16

"I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." Luke 5:32

"From that time on Jesus began to preach, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near." Matthew 4:17

"No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear." 1 Corinthians 10:13

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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"Im a man but I know i have no chance against biological men so I will compete against women"

Stunning and brave.

Winter Olympics makes history with first openly transgender skier competing in women's division

Elis Lundholm is a biological female skier who identifies as a male but will be competing in the women's division pic.twitter.com/dE952kKDPK

— TaraBull (@TaraBull) February 7, 2026

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She's not a man. She's a woman that identifies as a man…when it's convenient.

This trans stuff is looney tunes. It's somewhat hysterical that we (collectively) have largely agreed to just go "ok, whatever makes you happy" rather than "what in the actual f8ck are you talking about".

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What does here Chromosomes say? Is her levels of Testosterone within female range? If so, she should compete as a women. If not, she is a man. Period. In todays age of better bodies through chemistry, there has to be set standards, either you are in or out. What you call yourself is irrelevant.

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She's a biological woman so XX

I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

---

I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

---

The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

---

I hear you.

One of the things I have been glad to see is the Church has recognized that they can help people more if they let them take part, not shun or ostracize them. As you said, they need help and understanding.

---

What a shock that you treat religious borders the same as our country's. Let me guess where this goes: you want to be welcoming of unrepentant LGBT non-believers across your church "border" in order to "help" and "understand" them; then when anyone tries to remove them from your church in order to keep the church only for believers ("legal residents"), cry about how "mean" your church looks and how badly your church is behaving, and how your church must therefore keep them in. Then, when they, along with sympathizers gain in numbers, cry about how your church has to compromise its own beliefs and cater to the LGBT lifestyle, or you'll lose members.

Sound about right?

---

Isn't the goal to turn them away from evil and to God?? I guess beating or ignoring them will get the job done. Fishers of men, mean anything to you?

---

The goal of immigration was to turn outsiders into Americans.

But we're seeing how your subversive goal is to turn Americans into outsiders.

Therefore, there's no reason to believe you aren't trying to do the same to your church.

---

What are you talking about??????

subversive goal? You need to step away from the bong...

---

So, you sell yourself as a Roman Catholic to your church.... all while revealing that you don't even believe in their dogmas and that you believe the apostle Paul was a "jerk" whose writings should not be Scripture, and now you're advocating compromising your church's beliefs to cater to LGBT...

... and you don't think there's reason for anyone to believe you're "subversive"?

---

I know critical thinking to form your own opinions is foreign to you, as shown by your lock step believe in whatever your Church or MAGA tell you.

How do you help people if you turn them away? You honestly think (yes, think not be told) that the Jesus of the scriptures would say turn them away? Did he do that with his disciples? Is that really the message YOU got, not what some Pastor told you. You think Jesus would turn his back on those people? That everyone that heard him speak never struggled with sin? Or listened to him multiple times before changing their lives?

Have your own opinions. Stop being a sheep.

---

Let me ask you this: do you, when you invite LGBT people into your church, tell them that their lifestyle is sinful, and that they must repent of it in order to be a member?

---

FLBear, can I get an answer? When do you get around to telling them their lifestyle is sinful, and that being in the church requires them to repent?

---

if sin prevent people from being members of the church, then its an empty building.. Ekklesia is a Greek term that means "assembly" or "gathering,"

Every man, woman, and child is born a sinner.. all are called to gather to worship the one true savior Jesus Christ.

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9

"Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective." James 5:16

"I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." Luke 5:32

"From that time on Jesus began to preach, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near." Matthew 4:17

"No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear." 1 Corinthians 10:13

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The issue wasn't whether or not you have to be sinless to be part of a church. The issue was about the level of tolerance of that church for your unrepentant sin, in order to be "welcoming" and to "help" and "understand" you.

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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"Im a man but I know i have no chance against biological men so I will compete against women"

Stunning and brave.

Winter Olympics makes history with first openly transgender skier competing in women's division

Elis Lundholm is a biological female skier who identifies as a male but will be competing in the women's division pic.twitter.com/dE952kKDPK

— TaraBull (@TaraBull) February 7, 2026

---

She's not a man. She's a woman that identifies as a man…when it's convenient.

This trans stuff is looney tunes. It's somewhat hysterical that we (collectively) have largely agreed to just go "ok, whatever makes you happy" rather than "what in the actual f8ck are you talking about".

---

What does here Chromosomes say? Is her levels of Testosterone within female range? If so, she should compete as a women. If not, she is a man. Period. In todays age of better bodies through chemistry, there has to be set standards, either you are in or out. What you call yourself is irrelevant.

---

She's a biological woman so XX

I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

---

I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

---

The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

---

I hear you.

One of the things I have been glad to see is the Church has recognized that they can help people more if they let them take part, not shun or ostracize them. As you said, they need help and understanding.

---

What a shock that you treat religious borders the same as our country's. Let me guess where this goes: you want to be welcoming of unrepentant LGBT non-believers across your church "border" in order to "help" and "understand" them; then when anyone tries to remove them from your church in order to keep the church only for believers ("legal residents"), cry about how "mean" your church looks and how badly your church is behaving, and how your church must therefore keep them in. Then, when they, along with sympathizers gain in numbers, cry about how your church has to compromise its own beliefs and cater to the LGBT lifestyle, or you'll lose members.

Sound about right?

---

Isn't the goal to turn them away from evil and to God?? I guess beating or ignoring them will get the job done. Fishers of men, mean anything to you?

---

The goal of immigration was to turn outsiders into Americans.

But we're seeing how your subversive goal is to turn Americans into outsiders.

Therefore, there's no reason to believe you aren't trying to do the same to your church.

---

What are you talking about??????

subversive goal? You need to step away from the bong...

---

So, you sell yourself as a Roman Catholic to your church.... all while revealing that you don't even believe in their dogmas and that you believe the apostle Paul was a "jerk" whose writings should not be Scripture, and now you're advocating compromising your church's beliefs to cater to LGBT...

... and you don't think there's reason for anyone to believe you're "subversive"?

---

I know critical thinking to form your own opinions is foreign to you, as shown by your lock step believe in whatever your Church or MAGA tell you.

How do you help people if you turn them away? You honestly think (yes, think not be told) that the Jesus of the scriptures would say turn them away? Did he do that with his disciples? Is that really the message YOU got, not what some Pastor told you. You think Jesus would turn his back on those people? That everyone that heard him speak never struggled with sin? Or listened to him multiple times before changing their lives?

Have your own opinions. Stop being a sheep.

---

Sir or ma'am, if I'm the one lacking in critical thinking, then you are an ocean sponge.

And why should we take seriously the opinions of someone who lies to his/her own church every Sunday and during every mass? Do you honestly think that you're in the position to know what's best for the church?

Let me ask you this: do you, when you invite LGBT people into your church, tell them that their lifestyle is sinful, and that they must repent of it in order to be a member?

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Isn't that constantly part of the message? "Sin, no more"? Don't we do that in every service or mass? For Catholics, they would not be able to go to communion, but they are able to be at the Mass and take part.

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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nein51 said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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"Im a man but I know i have no chance against biological men so I will compete against women"

Stunning and brave.

Winter Olympics makes history with first openly transgender skier competing in women's division

Elis Lundholm is a biological female skier who identifies as a male but will be competing in the women's division pic.twitter.com/dE952kKDPK

— TaraBull (@TaraBull) February 7, 2026

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She's not a man. She's a woman that identifies as a man…when it's convenient.

This trans stuff is looney tunes. It's somewhat hysterical that we (collectively) have largely agreed to just go "ok, whatever makes you happy" rather than "what in the actual f8ck are you talking about".

---

What does here Chromosomes say? Is her levels of Testosterone within female range? If so, she should compete as a women. If not, she is a man. Period. In todays age of better bodies through chemistry, there has to be set standards, either you are in or out. What you call yourself is irrelevant.

---

She's a biological woman so XX

I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

---

I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

---

The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

---

I hear you.

One of the things I have been glad to see is the Church has recognized that they can help people more if they let them take part, not shun or ostracize them. As you said, they need help and understanding.

---

What a shock that you treat religious borders the same as our country's. Let me guess where this goes: you want to be welcoming of unrepentant LGBT non-believers across your church "border" in order to "help" and "understand" them; then when anyone tries to remove them from your church in order to keep the church only for believers ("legal residents"), cry about how "mean" your church looks and how badly your church is behaving, and how your church must therefore keep them in. Then, when they, along with sympathizers gain in numbers, cry about how your church has to compromise its own beliefs and cater to the LGBT lifestyle, or you'll lose members.

Sound about right?

---

Isn't the goal to turn them away from evil and to God?? I guess beating or ignoring them will get the job done. Fishers of men, mean anything to you?

---

The goal of immigration was to turn outsiders into Americans.

But we're seeing how your subversive goal is to turn Americans into outsiders.

Therefore, there's no reason to believe you aren't trying to do the same to your church.

---

What are you talking about??????

subversive goal? You need to step away from the bong...

---

So, you sell yourself as a Roman Catholic to your church.... all while revealing that you don't even believe in their dogmas and that you believe the apostle Paul was a "jerk" whose writings should not be Scripture, and now you're advocating compromising your church's beliefs to cater to LGBT...

... and you don't think there's reason for anyone to believe you're "subversive"?

---

I know critical thinking to form your own opinions is foreign to you, as shown by your lock step believe in whatever your Church or MAGA tell you.

How do you help people if you turn them away? You honestly think (yes, think not be told) that the Jesus of the scriptures would say turn them away? Did he do that with his disciples? Is that really the message YOU got, not what some Pastor told you. You think Jesus would turn his back on those people? That everyone that heard him speak never struggled with sin? Or listened to him multiple times before changing their lives?

Have your own opinions. Stop being a sheep.

---

Sir or ma'am, if I'm the one lacking in critical thinking, then you are an ocean sponge.

And why should we take seriously the opinions of someone who lies to his/her own church every Sunday and during every mass? Do you honestly think that you're in the position to know what's best for the church?

Let me ask you this: do you, when you invite LGBT people into your church, tell them that their lifestyle is sinful, and that they must repent of it in order to be a member?

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Isn't that constantly part of the message? "Sin, no more"? Don't we do that in every service or mass? For Catholics, they would not be able to go to communion, but they are able to be at the Mass and take part.

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And if they reject your message, and don't believe/repent? What does your church do then? Continue to tolerate them and their lifestyle so that you can continue to "help and understand" them and not turn them away?

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I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

---

I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

---

The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

---

I hear you.

One of the things I have been glad to see is the Church has recognized that they can help people more if they let them take part, not shun or ostracize them. As you said, they need help and understanding.

---

What a shock that you treat religious borders the same as our country's. Let me guess where this goes: you want to be welcoming of unrepentant LGBT non-believers across your church "border" in order to "help" and "understand" them; then when anyone tries to remove them from your church in order to keep the church only for believers ("legal residents"), cry about how "mean" your church looks and how badly your church is behaving, and how your church must therefore keep them in. Then, when they, along with sympathizers gain in numbers, cry about how your church has to compromise its own beliefs and cater to the LGBT lifestyle, or you'll lose members.

Sound about right?

---

Isn't the goal to turn them away from evil and to God?? I guess beating or ignoring them will get the job done. Fishers of men, mean anything to you?

---

The goal of immigration was to turn outsiders into Americans.

But we're seeing how your subversive goal is to turn Americans into outsiders.

Therefore, there's no reason to believe you aren't trying to do the same to your church.

---

What are you talking about??????

subversive goal? You need to step away from the bong...

---

So, you sell yourself as a Roman Catholic to your church.... all while revealing that you don't even believe in their dogmas and that you believe the apostle Paul was a "jerk" whose writings should not be Scripture, and now you're advocating compromising your church's beliefs to cater to LGBT...

... and you don't think there's reason for anyone to believe you're "subversive"?

---

I know critical thinking to form your own opinions is foreign to you, as shown by your lock step believe in whatever your Church or MAGA tell you.

How do you help people if you turn them away? You honestly think (yes, think not be told) that the Jesus of the scriptures would say turn them away? Did he do that with his disciples? Is that really the message YOU got, not what some Pastor told you. You think Jesus would turn his back on those people? That everyone that heard him speak never struggled with sin? Or listened to him multiple times before changing their lives?

Have your own opinions. Stop being a sheep.

---

Sir or ma'am, if I'm the one lacking in critical thinking, then you are an ocean sponge.

And why should we take seriously the opinions of someone who lies to his/her own church every Sunday and during every mass? Do you honestly think that you're in the position to know what's best for the church?

Let me ask you this: do you, when you invite LGBT people into your church, tell them that their lifestyle is sinful, and that they must repent of it in order to be a member?

---

Isn't that constantly part of the message? "Sin, no more"? Don't we do that in every service or mass? For Catholics, they would not be able to go to communion, but they are able to be at the Mass and take part.

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And if they reject your message, and don't believe/repent? What does your church do then? Continue to tolerate them and their lifestyle so that you can continue to "help and understand" them and not turn them away?

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How are they rejecting your message if they are at service? Isn't that evidence of effort? Maybe, like an addiction, it is not something they can easily do. Do you throw out the alcoholic or drug addict too? Do you throw out those having pre-marriage sex? How much time do they get before you toss them for being unrepentive?

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I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

---

I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

---

The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

---

I hear you.

One of the things I have been glad to see is the Church has recognized that they can help people more if they let them take part, not shun or ostracize them. As you said, they need help and understanding.

---

What a shock that you treat religious borders the same as our country's. Let me guess where this goes: you want to be welcoming of unrepentant LGBT non-believers across your church "border" in order to "help" and "understand" them; then when anyone tries to remove them from your church in order to keep the church only for believers ("legal residents"), cry about how "mean" your church looks and how badly your church is behaving, and how your church must therefore keep them in. Then, when they, along with sympathizers gain in numbers, cry about how your church has to compromise its own beliefs and cater to the LGBT lifestyle, or you'll lose members.

Sound about right?

---

Isn't the goal to turn them away from evil and to God?? I guess beating or ignoring them will get the job done. Fishers of men, mean anything to you?

---

The goal of immigration was to turn outsiders into Americans.

But we're seeing how your subversive goal is to turn Americans into outsiders.

Therefore, there's no reason to believe you aren't trying to do the same to your church.

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What are you talking about??????

subversive goal? You need to step away from the bong...

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So, you sell yourself as a Roman Catholic to your church.... all while revealing that you don't even believe in their dogmas and that you believe the apostle Paul was a "jerk" whose writings should not be Scripture, and now you're advocating compromising your church's beliefs to cater to LGBT...

... and you don't think there's reason for anyone to believe you're "subversive"?

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I know critical thinking to form your own opinions is foreign to you, as shown by your lock step believe in whatever your Church or MAGA tell you.

How do you help people if you turn them away? You honestly think (yes, think not be told) that the Jesus of the scriptures would say turn them away? Did he do that with his disciples? Is that really the message YOU got, not what some Pastor told you. You think Jesus would turn his back on those people? That everyone that heard him speak never struggled with sin? Or listened to him multiple times before changing their lives?

Have your own opinions. Stop being a sheep.

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Sir or ma'am, if I'm the one lacking in critical thinking, then you are an ocean sponge.

And why should we take seriously the opinions of someone who lies to his/her own church every Sunday and during every mass? Do you honestly think that you're in the position to know what's best for the church?

Let me ask you this: do you, when you invite LGBT people into your church, tell them that their lifestyle is sinful, and that they must repent of it in order to be a member?

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Isn't that constantly part of the message? "Sin, no more"? Don't we do that in every service or mass? For Catholics, they would not be able to go to communion, but they are able to be at the Mass and take part.

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And if they reject your message, and don't believe/repent? What does your church do then? Continue to tolerate them and their lifestyle so that you can continue to "help and understand" them and not turn them away?

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How are they rejecting your message if they are at service? Isn't that evidence of effort? Maybe, like an addiction, it is not something they can easily do. Do you throw out the alcoholic or drug addict too? Do you throw out those having pre-marriage sex? How much time do they get before you toss them for being unrepentive?

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They're rejecting your message if they don't repent or believe. So you're saying the church body should also include non-believers and non-repentant people?

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I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

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I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

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The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

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I hear you.

One of the things I have been glad to see is the Church has recognized that they can help people more if they let them take part, not shun or ostracize them. As you said, they need help and understanding.

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What a shock that you treat religious borders the same as our country's. Let me guess where this goes: you want to be welcoming of unrepentant LGBT non-believers across your church "border" in order to "help" and "understand" them; then when anyone tries to remove them from your church in order to keep the church only for believers ("legal residents"), cry about how "mean" your church looks and how badly your church is behaving, and how your church must therefore keep them in. Then, when they, along with sympathizers gain in numbers, cry about how your church has to compromise its own beliefs and cater to the LGBT lifestyle, or you'll lose members.

Sound about right?

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Isn't the goal to turn them away from evil and to God?? I guess beating or ignoring them will get the job done. Fishers of men, mean anything to you?

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The goal of immigration was to turn outsiders into Americans.

But we're seeing how your subversive goal is to turn Americans into outsiders.

Therefore, there's no reason to believe you aren't trying to do the same to your church.

---

What are you talking about??????

subversive goal? You need to step away from the bong...

---

So, you sell yourself as a Roman Catholic to your church.... all while revealing that you don't even believe in their dogmas and that you believe the apostle Paul was a "jerk" whose writings should not be Scripture, and now you're advocating compromising your church's beliefs to cater to LGBT...

... and you don't think there's reason for anyone to believe you're "subversive"?

---

I know critical thinking to form your own opinions is foreign to you, as shown by your lock step believe in whatever your Church or MAGA tell you.

How do you help people if you turn them away? You honestly think (yes, think not be told) that the Jesus of the scriptures would say turn them away? Did he do that with his disciples? Is that really the message YOU got, not what some Pastor told you. You think Jesus would turn his back on those people? That everyone that heard him speak never struggled with sin? Or listened to him multiple times before changing their lives?

Have your own opinions. Stop being a sheep.

---

Sir or ma'am, if I'm the one lacking in critical thinking, then you are an ocean sponge.

And why should we take seriously the opinions of someone who lies to his/her own church every Sunday and during every mass? Do you honestly think that you're in the position to know what's best for the church?

Let me ask you this: do you, when you invite LGBT people into your church, tell them that their lifestyle is sinful, and that they must repent of it in order to be a member?

---

Isn't that constantly part of the message? "Sin, no more"? Don't we do that in every service or mass? For Catholics, they would not be able to go to communion, but they are able to be at the Mass and take part.

---

And if they reject your message, and don't believe/repent? What does your church do then? Continue to tolerate them and their lifestyle so that you can continue to "help and understand" them and not turn them away?

---

How are they rejecting your message if they are at service? Isn't that evidence of effort? Maybe, like an addiction, it is not something they can easily do. Do you throw out the alcoholic or drug addict too? Do you throw out those having pre-marriage sex? How much time do they get before you toss them for being unrepentive?

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They're rejecting your message if they don't repent or believe. So you're saying the church body should also include non-believers and non-repentant people?

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How are they not believing? They are at service every week. Maybe they are taking part in Church activities. How do you judge they aren't repenting? Do you know how much effort someone puts in or how difficult something is? You do not answer any of these questions. You keep coming back with ridiculously simplistic and off subject questions.

How do you know they are not repenting or do not believe? How are they any different from any other sinner? (you never answer that one...) You know the person next to you is repenting from his chronic lying, even after you catch him numerous times? He is a non-repenting, non-believer and should be tossed out of your Church? (Once again, there will be no answer). How about promiscuity, the guy you see hitting on girls every weekend? Pridefulness??? Such as knowing the heart of others? Can you think of a more prideful act?

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I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

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I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

---

The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

---

I hear you.

One of the things I have been glad to see is the Church has recognized that they can help people more if they let them take part, not shun or ostracize them. As you said, they need help and understanding.

---

What a shock that you treat religious borders the same as our country's. Let me guess where this goes: you want to be welcoming of unrepentant LGBT non-believers across your church "border" in order to "help" and "understand" them; then when anyone tries to remove them from your church in order to keep the church only for believers ("legal residents"), cry about how "mean" your church looks and how badly your church is behaving, and how your church must therefore keep them in. Then, when they, along with sympathizers gain in numbers, cry about how your church has to compromise its own beliefs and cater to the LGBT lifestyle, or you'll lose members.

Sound about right?

---

Isn't the goal to turn them away from evil and to God?? I guess beating or ignoring them will get the job done. Fishers of men, mean anything to you?

---

The goal of immigration was to turn outsiders into Americans.

But we're seeing how your subversive goal is to turn Americans into outsiders.

Therefore, there's no reason to believe you aren't trying to do the same to your church.

---

What are you talking about??????

subversive goal? You need to step away from the bong...

---

So, you sell yourself as a Roman Catholic to your church.... all while revealing that you don't even believe in their dogmas and that you believe the apostle Paul was a "jerk" whose writings should not be Scripture, and now you're advocating compromising your church's beliefs to cater to LGBT...

... and you don't think there's reason for anyone to believe you're "subversive"?

---

I know critical thinking to form your own opinions is foreign to you, as shown by your lock step believe in whatever your Church or MAGA tell you.

How do you help people if you turn them away? You honestly think (yes, think not be told) that the Jesus of the scriptures would say turn them away? Did he do that with his disciples? Is that really the message YOU got, not what some Pastor told you. You think Jesus would turn his back on those people? That everyone that heard him speak never struggled with sin? Or listened to him multiple times before changing their lives?

Have your own opinions. Stop being a sheep.

---

Sir or ma'am, if I'm the one lacking in critical thinking, then you are an ocean sponge.

And why should we take seriously the opinions of someone who lies to his/her own church every Sunday and during every mass? Do you honestly think that you're in the position to know what's best for the church?

Let me ask you this: do you, when you invite LGBT people into your church, tell them that their lifestyle is sinful, and that they must repent of it in order to be a member?

---

Isn't that constantly part of the message? "Sin, no more"? Don't we do that in every service or mass? For Catholics, they would not be able to go to communion, but they are able to be at the Mass and take part.

---

And if they reject your message, and don't believe/repent? What does your church do then? Continue to tolerate them and their lifestyle so that you can continue to "help and understand" them and not turn them away?

---

How are they rejecting your message if they are at service? Isn't that evidence of effort? Maybe, like an addiction, it is not something they can easily do. Do you throw out the alcoholic or drug addict too? Do you throw out those having pre-marriage sex? How much time do they get before you toss them for being unrepentive?

---

They're rejecting your message if they don't repent or believe. So you're saying the church body should also include non-believers and non-repentant people?

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How are they not believing? They are at service every week. Maybe they are taking part in Church activities. How do you judge they aren't repenting? Do you know how much effort someone puts in or how difficult something is? You do not answer any of these questions. You keep coming back with ridiculously simplistic and off subject questions.

How do you know they are not repenting or do not believe? How are they any different from any other sinner? (you never answer that one...) You know the person next to you is repenting from his chronic lying, even after you catch him numerous times? He is a non-repenting, non-believer and should be tossed out of your Church? (Once again, there will be no answer). How about promiscuity, the guy you see hitting on girls every weekend? Pridefulness??? Such as knowing the heart of others? Can you think of a more prideful act?

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Stop confusing yourself with your questions. My question to you was clear: if they reject your message and do not believe/repent, then what should your church do?

We are assuming they have rejected your message. You're getting lost in the weeds by asking how we can know they actually rejected it. That isn't the question. Now stop avoiding and answer.

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I have no idea what her test levels are as those can vary.

The article does a poor job

This is a biological woman, who tells people she's a man, competing as a woman. So unless her Test levels are higher than female competitors this is a a woman competing as a woman…who likes to lie about having a dick.

---

I don't go there...

We discuss stuff in today's society that leave me really wondering.

I will say, this site has been good. It really helps see that there are a ton of different perspectives. That is why I come here, to try and figure how to incorporate all these views into some type of workable framework.

This site has a great cross-section from racists to ex-patriates to corporate to liberal to developers to CEOs... It is great to see the responses and where they come from. Working on a huge project that incorporates 65 different communities. So, this place is where I ask and see responses.

Someone that is a woman that identifies as a man but competes as a women, fits right in...

---

The trans stuff is ridiculous. It's complex as well.

This article headline makes it seem like it's a man competing as a woman (because that's the most common trans sports headline). But a woman, who says she's a man (but isn't), competing as a woman is just…a woman competing in women's sports with extra steps.

The vast majority of trans people need love and compassion because they have a very serious mental health issue. But man do they make it difficult.

---

I hear you.

One of the things I have been glad to see is the Church has recognized that they can help people more if they let them take part, not shun or ostracize them. As you said, they need help and understanding.

---

What a shock that you treat religious borders the same as our country's. Let me guess where this goes: you want to be welcoming of unrepentant LGBT non-believers across your church "border" in order to "help" and "understand" them; then when anyone tries to remove them from your church in order to keep the church only for believers ("legal residents"), cry about how "mean" your church looks and how badly your church is behaving, and how your church must therefore keep them in. Then, when they, along with sympathizers gain in numbers, cry about how your church has to compromise its own beliefs and cater to the LGBT lifestyle, or you'll lose members.

Sound about right?

---

Isn't the goal to turn them away from evil and to God?? I guess beating or ignoring them will get the job done. Fishers of men, mean anything to you?

---

The goal of immigration was to turn outsiders into Americans.

But we're seeing how your subversive goal is to turn Americans into outsiders.

Therefore, there's no reason to believe you aren't trying to do the same to your church.

---

What are you talking about??????

subversive goal? You need to step away from the bong...

---

So, you sell yourself as a Roman Catholic to your church.... all while revealing that you don't even believe in their dogmas and that you believe the apostle Paul was a "jerk" whose writings should not be Scripture, and now you're advocating compromising your church's beliefs to cater to LGBT...

... and you don't think there's reason for anyone to believe you're "subversive"?

---

I know critical thinking to form your own opinions is foreign to you, as shown by your lock step believe in whatever your Church or MAGA tell you.

How do you help people if you turn them away? You honestly think (yes, think not be told) that the Jesus of the scriptures would say turn them away? Did he do that with his disciples? Is that really the message YOU got, not what some Pastor told you. You think Jesus would turn his back on those people? That everyone that heard him speak never struggled with sin? Or listened to him multiple times before changing their lives?

Have your own opinions. Stop being a sheep.

---

Sir or ma'am, if I'm the one lacking in critical thinking, then you are an ocean sponge.

And why should we take seriously the opinions of someone who lies to his/her own church every Sunday and during every mass? Do you honestly think that you're in the position to know what's best for the church?

Let me ask you this: do you, when you invite LGBT people into your church, tell them that their lifestyle is sinful, and that they must repent of it in order to be a member?

---

Isn't that constantly part of the message? "Sin, no more"? Don't we do that in every service or mass? For Catholics, they would not be able to go to communion, but they are able to be at the Mass and take part.

---

And if they reject your message, and don't believe/repent? What does your church do then? Continue to tolerate them and their lifestyle so that you can continue to "help and understand" them and not turn them away?

---

How are they rejecting your message if they are at service? Isn't that evidence of effort? Maybe, like an addiction, it is not something they can easily do. Do you throw out the alcoholic or drug addict too? Do you throw out those having pre-marriage sex? How much time do they get before you toss them for being unrepentive?

---

They're rejecting your message if they don't repent or believe. So you're saying the church body should also include non-believers and non-repentant people?

---

How are they not believing? They are at service every week. Maybe they are taking part in Church activities. How do you judge they aren't repenting? Do you know how much effort someone puts in or how difficult something is? You do not answer any of these questions. You keep coming back with ridiculously simplistic and off subject questions.

How do you know they are not repenting or do not believe? How are they any different from any other sinner? (you never answer that one...) You know the person next to you is repenting from his chronic lying, even after you catch him numerous times? He is a non-repenting, non-believer and should be tossed out of your Church? (Once again, there will be no answer). How about promiscuity, the guy you see hitting on girls every weekend? Pridefulness??? Such as knowing the heart of others? Can you think of a more prideful act?

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Stop confusing yourself with your questions. My question to you was clear: if they reject your message and do not believe/repent, then what should your church do?

We are assuming they have rejected your message. You're getting lost in the weeds by asking how we can know they actually rejected it. That isn't the question. Now stop avoiding and answer.

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If they rejected the message would they be there at service every week? Seriously, why would people spend the time and effort to go to service, join church groups and take part in a Church if they rejected the message? They are trying to infiltrate your Church? It is an unrealistic scenario.

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What? Having an opinion is rejecting? Not caring for someone's writings is rejection in your world? I am good with the beliefs of the Catholic church and am in line with the Sacraments. If I weren't Catholic, I would be Eastern Rite, same Sacraments. Whether someone kisses a the foot of a statue or I think Paul is too bossy doesn't change that.

You make huge leaps.

I have answered the question. My answer is - How do you know and if they keep showing up they are not rejecting?

Keep channelizing the question maybe you will get what you are after...

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FLBear5630 said:

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What? Having an opinion is rejecting? Not caring for someone's writings is rejection in your world? I am good with the beliefs of the Catholic church and am in line with the Sacraments. If I weren't Catholic, I would be Eastern Rite, same Sacraments. Whether someone kisses a the foot of a statue or I think Paul is too bossy doesn't change that.

You make huge leaps.

I have answered the question. My answer is - How do you know and if they keep showing up they are not rejecting?

Keep channelizing the question maybe you will get what you are after...

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What? Having an opinion is rejecting? Not caring for someone's writings is rejection in your world? I am good with the beliefs of the Catholic church and am in line with the Sacraments. If I weren't Catholic, I would be Eastern Rite, same Sacraments. Whether someone kisses a the foot of a statue or I think Paul is too bossy doesn't change that.

You make huge leaps.

I have answered the question. My answer is - How do you know and if they keep showing up they are not rejecting?

Keep channelizing the question maybe you will get what you are after...

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You aren't answering his question, you dishonest twerp. If the gays are waving rainbow flags, they haven't repented a therefore do not truly believe. If the murderers are still bragging about killing people, it's not some great leap to say they aren't sorry for their sins and will most likely continue.

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The girl won literal Gold, but of course the Dutch left is bashing Jutta Leerdam saying she’s a diva because she’s beautiful, flew private and above all because she’s engaged to a man who supports Trump/ICE.

I love my country, but man that resentful “just act normal, then you’re… pic.twitter.com/ApTw6VKYqK

— Eva Vlaardingerbroek (@EvaVlaar) February 12, 2026