Targeted Killing??? United Healthcare

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8:26a, 12/5/24
The words "deny", "defend", "depose" were found written on the shell casings left at the scene.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/police-appear-to-be-closing-in-on-name-of-gunman-who-shot-ceo-sources/ar-AA1vjmLU?ocid=BingNewsBrowse

Looking back at the video, it doesn't appear the shooter is wearing gloves. I wonder if he wants to eventually be caught so he can "tell his story".

EDIT: The NY Post has a story indicating that the words were found on shell casings AND three unfired rounds which were left at the crime scene. That would explain why he manually racked the slide after each shot. He wasn't clearing a malfunction; he was making sure the message got sent.
https://nypost.com/2024/12/05/us-news/unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompsons-assassin-may-have-left-message-on-bullets-used-in-murder-sources/
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 8:51a, 12/5/24
FLBear5630 said:
KaiBear said:
BearFan33 said:
Definitely looking like a hit job by a professional.


The shooter made too many mistakes to be considered a professional.


Not sure of the professionalism of the shooter, but US Marshals this morning on Fox said they thought it was a hired gun. A person can be hired and not a pro. Or there were things my he was supposed to do to send a message, such as inscribed casings. Leaving a phone, which we have no idea what is on it. Could be data to why he was targeted. Etc... Will be interesting to see if he goes Unibomber or is caught.


Most hired killers are goofballs.

This guy revealed his face, left shell casings, and possibly even his cell phone.

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In reply to PLSQL_BEAR • 9:24a, 12/5/24
PLSQL_BEAR said:
The words "deny", "defend", "depose" were found written on the shell casings left at the scene.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/police-appear-to-be-closing-in-on-name-of-gunman-who-shot-ceo-sources/ar-AA1vjmLU?ocid=BingNewsBrowse

Looking back at the video, it doesn't appear the shooter is wearing gloves. I wonder if he wants to eventually be caught so he can "tell his story".

EDIT: The NY Post has a story indicating that the words were found on shell casings AND three unfired rounds which were left at the crime scene. That would explain why he manually racked the slide after each shot. He wasn't clearing a malfunction; he was making sure the message got sent.
https://nypost.com/2024/12/05/us-news/unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompsons-assassin-may-have-left-message-on-bullets-used-in-murder-sources/
definitely a disgruntled customer or somebody hired by a disgruntled customer

As somebody who's dealt with health insurance companies for years, those words ring true
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In reply to KaiBear • 10:04a, 12/5/24
KaiBear said:
FLBear5630 said:
KaiBear said:
BearFan33 said:
Definitely looking like a hit job by a professional.


The shooter made too many mistakes to be considered a professional.


Not sure of the professionalism of the shooter, but US Marshals this morning on Fox said they thought it was a hired gun. A person can be hired and not a pro. Or there were things my he was supposed to do to send a message, such as inscribed casings. Leaving a phone, which we have no idea what is on it. Could be data to why he was targeted. Etc... Will be interesting to see if he goes Unibomber or is caught.


Most hired killers are goofballs.

This guy revealed his face, left shell casings, and possibly even his cell phone.



No disagreement here
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10:05a, 12/5/24


Reading the comments, its kinda like this one stirred a hornet's nest, mostly from folks disturbed by United Healthcare policies
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In reply to Jack Bauer • 10:40a, 12/5/24
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Apparently there is a 2010 book about insurance that had similar key words in it.
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10:40a, 12/5/24
They just released new photos from a hostel a couple of blocks away. Shows entire face of the fella they think is the assassin
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In reply to Assassin • 10:44a, 12/5/24
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They just released new photos from a hostel a couple of blocks away. Shows entire face of the fella they think is the assassin


If so, they got him. Just a chess game now with the end already known.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 10:50a, 12/5/24
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Assassin said:
They just released new photos from a hostel a couple of blocks away. Shows entire face of the fella they think is the assassin
If so, they got him. Just a chess game now with the end already known.
Yep. The photos were very clear. Once they determine who it is, they will have to connect him to the assassination, but that shouldn't be hard. This guy wasn't a pro. Just determined
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In reply to Assassin • 12:26p, 12/5/24
Assassin said:
FLBear5630 said:
Assassin said:
They just released new photos from a hostel a couple of blocks away. Shows entire face of the fella they think is the assassin
If so, they got him. Just a chess game now with the end already known.
Yep. The photos were very clear. Once they determine who it is, they will have to connect him to the assassination, but that shouldn't be hard. This guy wasn't a pro. Just determined



The shooter may not be the pro they are looking for if the shooter is found dead.
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12:33p, 12/5/24
{ sipping coffee }

- KKM

{ eating donut }

looks to be already ID'd??

good work, NYPD!

go grab some of the aforementioned!!!
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1:52p, 12/5/24
Terrible but given how bad certain industries treat people, I'm surprised this sort of stuff doesn't happen more often. Hopefully they will catch him soon.
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2:54p, 12/5/24
I'd start with the wife, about 99% of the time it's the spouse. Will not surprise me one bit if it was her.
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3:21p, 12/5/24
So on Bluesky, saying there are only 2 genders is "hate speech" but you can wish **** on rich executives?

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4:22p, 12/5/24
A happy hour of anesthesia. Makes sense
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In reply to 4th and Inches • 5:14p, 12/5/24
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PLSQL_BEAR said:
The words "deny", "defend", "depose" were found written on the shell casings left at the scene.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/police-appear-to-be-closing-in-on-name-of-gunman-who-shot-ceo-sources/ar-AA1vjmLU?ocid=BingNewsBrowse

Looking back at the video, it doesn't appear the shooter is wearing gloves. I wonder if he wants to eventually be caught so he can "tell his story".

EDIT: The NY Post has a story indicating that the words were found on shell casings AND three unfired rounds which were left at the crime scene. That would explain why he manually racked the slide after each shot. He wasn't clearing a malfunction; he was making sure the message got sent.
https://nypost.com/2024/12/05/us-news/unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompsons-assassin-may-have-left-message-on-bullets-used-in-murder-sources/
definitely a disgruntled customer or somebody hired by a disgruntled customer

As somebody who's dealt with health insurance companies for years, those words ring true


Not great timing by BCBS

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3:52a, 12/6/24
Well, that was fast.

November 14th: "Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield Won't Pay for the Complete Duration of Anesthesia for Patients' Surgical Procedures"

December 4th: the shooting

December 5th: "Anthem reverses plans to put time limits on anesthesia coverage"
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7:50a, 12/6/24
Dirty company. I know of other lawsuits against them where they have had false research studies created added to advertising efforts to attempt to bankrupt physician groups.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 10:53a, 12/6/24
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they commonly reduce payments due to a contract you may or may not have with them..

They use Optum now as a gate keeper and as of 2024, even tier one doctors and pysical therapists have to go thru pre auth approvals for therapy(tier ones havent had to do that in 10+ years)
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In reply to STxBear81 • 11:51a, 12/6/24
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A happy hour of anesthesia. Makes sense
We can't have those Heart Transplant Surgeons lollygagging around on the job now can we?
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12:37p, 12/6/24
This is getting kind of wild

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12:40p, 12/6/24
This event has tapped into some collective psyche of Americans feelings toward healthcare. 300,000 likes for a comment like this.

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In reply to boognish_bear • 7:37a, 12/7/24
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ML is very swayable - all in how the data samples / variables are seeded.....

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Murder like this is usually personal or it's about money.

9/10 times it's about money.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 1:35p, 12/7/24
boognish_bear said:





Our healthcare/insurance system is the opposite of free market capitalism.
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In reply to Doc Holliday • 1:58p, 12/7/24
Doc Holliday said:
boognish_bear said:





Our healthcare/insurance system is the opposite of free market capitalism.
this we agree!
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In reply to Doc Holliday • 3:35p, 12/7/24
Doc Holliday said:
Murder like this is usually personal or it's about money.

9/10 times it's about money.


This looks personal. I would bet, spouse or child died and was denied treatment.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 3:53p, 12/7/24
FLBear5630 said:
Doc Holliday said:
Murder like this is usually personal or it's about money.

9/10 times it's about money.


This looks personal. I would bet, spouse or child died and was denied treatment.

That or some family is bankrupt
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In reply to LIB,MR BEARS • 4:05p, 12/7/24
LIB,MR BEARS said:
FLBear5630 said:
Doc Holliday said:
Murder like this is usually personal or it's about money.

9/10 times it's about money.


This looks personal. I would bet, spouse or child died and was denied treatment.

That or some family is bankrupt


Do you kill over money?
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 4:10p, 12/7/24
FLBear5630 said:
LIB,MR BEARS said:
FLBear5630 said:
Doc Holliday said:
Murder like this is usually personal or it's about money.

9/10 times it's about money.


This looks personal. I would bet, spouse or child died and was denied treatment.

That or some family is bankrupt


Do you kill over money?


Lots of people do.
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