St. Judes - Do not donate to them

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Tempus Edax Rerum
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Scam hospital. Do not donate to them!
Married A Horn
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What? They didnt force the jab on some little kid?
EatMoreSalmon
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Thread makes me want to donate to St. Jude's today!
Harrison Bergeron
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No more ringing endorsement.
KaiBear
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EatMoreSalmon said:

Thread makes me want to donate to St. Jude's today!


We have been donating to St Jude's for the last few years.

The only negative ; is once you donate they flood you with follow up correspondence.

william
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https://www.stjude.org/directory/t/danny-thomas-founder.html
dale 2028
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Harrison Bergeron said:

No more ringing endorsement.
I'm not surprised you aren't too bright.

https://www.propublica.org/article/st-jude-hoards-billions-while-many-of-its-families-drain-their-savings
BUDOS
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Why? Personal experience? Friend's comment?
Not happy with the expenditure breakdown?
LIB,MR BEARS
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BUDOS said:

Why? Personal experience? Friend's comment?
Not happy with the expenditure breakdown?

One article he read
LIB,MR BEARS
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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

No more ringing endorsement.
I'm not surprised you aren't too bright.

https://www.propublica.org/article/st-jude-hoards-billions-while-many-of-its-families-drain-their-savings


What is the best alternative to St Jude?

The article you posted never accuses them of failing to honor what they say they will do.

It seems to me you want them to burn their reserves to pay for travel expenses, lodging of all family members and lost incomes. You're willing to risk their future good works over asking them to do more now.

What is the the economy going to be like for the next 5-10 years? What will be the level of donations for the next 5-10 years?

If you were gifted the winning lottery ticket, you'd gripe about the Drive to Austin.
Realitybites
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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

Scam hospital. Do not donate to them!
I'm guessing this is why he hates them.

"St Jude Trans Policy

St. Jude Children's Research Hospital does not discriminate against patients based on their gender identity or sexual orientation...but they do not provide gender-affirming surgeries or hormone treatments to minors"

Most of those other childrens hospitals are all in on the trans agenda and medical kidnapping.
OsoCoreyell
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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

No more ringing endorsement.
I'm not surprised you aren't too bright.

https://www.propublica.org/article/st-jude-hoards-billions-while-many-of-its-families-drain-their-savings
That's the scandal? That St Jude provides free cancer treatment but doesn't provide housing, travel, food and lost wages for the parents of patients? You're an idiot and Pro Publica is the scam.
sombear
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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

No more ringing endorsement.
I'm not surprised you aren't too bright.

https://www.propublica.org/article/st-jude-hoards-billions-while-many-of-its-families-drain-their-savings


Our family have unfortunately had a number of serious health issues, and I truly feel awful for anyone going through them and can't ingrained having to worry about finances while going through it.

That said, the feature story in this article is a woman complaining that St. Jude didn't compensate her when she had to quit her job? They covered all of her daughter's medical expenses. They covered the mom's food, lodging, and transportation. This is one of the more bizarre complaints I've ever heard of.
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sombear said:

Tempus Edax Rerum said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

No more ringing endorsement.
I'm not surprised you aren't too bright.

https://www.propublica.org/article/st-jude-hoards-billions-while-many-of-its-families-drain-their-savings


Our family have unfortunately had a number of serious health issues, and I truly feel awful for anyone going through them and can't ingrained having to worry about finances while going through it.

That said, the feature story in this article is a woman complaining that St. Jude didn't compensate her when she had to quit her job? They covered all of her daughter's medical expenses. They covered the mom's food, lodging, and transportation. This is one of the more bizarre complaints I've ever heard of.


Agreed. The words she was looking for were "thank you."
ATL Bear
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Unbelievable that a thread was created with that title based upon that hatchet job article.
Malbec
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ATL Bear said:

Unbelievable that a thread was created with that title based upon that hatchet job article.
7 1/2 years here and you can't believe it?
ATL Bear
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Malbec said:

ATL Bear said:

Unbelievable that a thread was created with that title based upon that hatchet job article.
7 1/2 years here and you can't believe it?
Good point, but some are more head scratchers than others.
LIB,MR BEARS
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ATL Bear said:

Unbelievable that a thread was created with that title based upon that hatchet job article.
consider the source
Tempus Edax Rerum
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ALSAC, which handles St. Jude's fundraising and investments, has 2,188 employees in Memphis and in 36 regional offices across the country. More than 400 of the fundraising arm's employees are paid over $100,000, according to IRS filings. The charity takes in so much money each year that it regularly steers hundreds of millions of dollars in donations to reserve accounts, the filings show.

St. Jude meets Better Business Bureau guidelines, which call for charities to maintain reserves of less than three times total expenses, but other experts expressed alarm that the hospital had accumulated such a large sum of money.

The size of the St. Jude reserve is "staggering," said Laura Otten, the director of LaSalle University's master program in nonprofit leadership. She said a typical reserve for a nonprofit the size of St. Jude is one to two years of expenses. Donors generally want to know their dollars are being put to work, she said.
The hospital said it needs a large reserve because its unique operating model relies on donations to fund annual operating costs. "[W]e are highly donor-dependent and subject to the economic driven vagaries of charitable giving," the hospital said in a written response to ProPublica questions.

But the hospital's reserve is already more than large enough to buffer against recessions and potential drops in donations, said Ge Bai, a professor of accounting and health policy at Johns Hopkins University. "They should be spending the money as aggressively as they raise it, but they seem to be hoarding," Bai said.

In July, in advance of an August trip to Memphis, Rainey called the patient services department at St. Jude to see whether they could help pay for a hotel to break up the travel day an expense Rainey said she could not afford.

To qualify for a hotel reimbursement, Rainey said, St. Jude told her she had to live more than 500 miles from Memphis. The ride from her home to the hospital is 530 miles (a measurement ProPublica confirmed with mapping tools). However, Rainey said, St. Jude told her it measured the trip from city limit to city limit and came up with a distance of 491 miles. Even using that metric, the distance is still more than 500 miles, ProPublica found.

When she challenged the hospital's stance, Rainey said she was berated by a patient services representative.

"I was feeling pissed off, and I was crying," Rainey said of the interaction. "You give up your whole life for your child, and they tell you don't worry about anything, we will cover this and then they tell you to just push through the drive."
BluesBear
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.82 cents of every donated dollars goes to "help" people. What a joke. I worked for a company in the Midwest who would donate over $100K each year to St. Jude's - - - once my boss understood the mockery of what they do behind the scenes, he shut down the giving.
KaiBear
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Who is doing more for kids than St Jude ?
EatMoreSalmon
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All this Danny Thomas hate after all these years…
Mothra
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

BUDOS said:

Why? Personal experience? Friend's comment?
Not happy with the expenditure breakdown?

One article TikTok video he read watched.
FIFY.
LIB,MR BEARS
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"The size of the St. Jude reserve is "staggering," "

and the expense of fighting cancer is not staggering?
GrowlTowel
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KaiBear said:

Who is doing more for kids than St Jude ?
Shriners Children's is pretty solid.
KaiBear
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GrowlTowel said:

KaiBear said:

Who is doing more for kids than St Jude ?
Shriners Children's is pretty solid.


Yes they are.

However I suspect one could easily find a client who blames them for not doing 'enough'.

Followed by a fringe internet poster demanding no one donate to the Shriners .
BearFan33
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I believe scrutiny is appropriate, but maybe they are "hoarding" to build a new hospital somewhere. Everything posted was only one side of the story.
Tempus Edax Rerum
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KaiBear said:

Who is doing more for kids than St Jude ?
Well considering most of their patients come from TN, I'd say a whole lot of hospitals are doing as much or more than they are.
Tempus Edax Rerum
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BluesBear said:

.82 cents of every donated dollars goes to "help" people. What a joke. I worked for a company in the Midwest who would donate over $100K each year to St. Jude's - - - once my boss understood the mockery of what they do behind the scenes, he shut down the giving.
Yep, people are starting to wake up to their under handed tactics.
LIB,MR BEARS
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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

BluesBear said:

.82 cents of every donated dollars goes to "help" people. What a joke. I worked for a company in the Midwest who would donate over $100K each year to St. Jude's - - - once my boss understood the mockery of what they do behind the scenes, he shut down the giving.
Yep, people are starting to wake up to their under handed tactics.

Be specific. What do they do that is underhanded? I read the article you linked
Porteroso
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St. Jude is a behemoth, because people really care about kids being saved from cancer. If you were to wage a successful campaign against it, and remove their funding, the world would be worse off, not better.

This is one of those situations where the truly ignorant are given a loudspeaker by social media. A 20 minute conversation with the right St. Jude worker would clear this up, but will you even try? No, just tell kids on the hiking trail to avoid St. Jude if they get cancer.
KaiBear
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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

KaiBear said:

Who is doing more for kids than St Jude ?
Well considering most of their patients come from TN, I'd say a whole lot of hospitals are doing as much or more than they are.
So is one kid's life more valuable than another ?

What possible difference what state the kid comes from ?
LoneStar77
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This is one of the most bizarre threads I have seen on this board, and that is saying something. I am a long time employee of a major corporate partner with St. Jude. Please look at their website or talk to family that has been impacted or an employee. Their goal is "Finding cures. Saving children", not housing patient families or providing supplemental income. Bizzare...
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LoneStar77 said:

This is one of the most bizarre threads I have seen on this board, and that is saying something. I am a long time employee of a major corporate partner with St. Jude. Please look at their website or talk to family that has been impacted or an employee. Their goal is "Finding cures. Saving children", not housing patient families or providing supplemental income. Bizzare...


Plenty of research institutions are focused on finding cures for cancer. St. Judes just grifts way more than most.
KaiBear
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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

LoneStar77 said:

This is one of the most bizarre threads I have seen on this board, and that is saying something. I am a long time employee of a major corporate partner with St. Jude. Please look at their website or talk to family that has been impacted or an employee. Their goal is "Finding cures. Saving children", not housing patient families or providing supplemental income. Bizzare...


Plenty of research institutions are focused on finding cures for cancer. St. Judes just grifts way more than most.
Well of course I will take your word for it.
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