ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

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The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

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The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

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Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

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Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tied to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

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The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

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Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

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Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

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This fits the precise definition of Imperialism. Hard economic power has been the cornerstone of imperialism since basically the beginning of empires. Downplay it as some "simple business deal" all you want, but it is what it is despite your efforts to spin it otherwise.

Some of us have always believed in exerting the strength of America abroad. It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama, not to mention rename a Gulf as another exertion of territorial claim. Just own it. That's all I'm saying.

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

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The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

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Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

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Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

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sombear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

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The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

---

Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

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Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

---

This fits the precise definition of Imperialism. Hard economic power has been the cornerstone of imperialism since basically the beginning of empires. Downplay it as some "simple business deal" all you want, but it is what it is despite your efforts to spin it otherwise.

Some of us have always believed in exerting the strength of America abroad. It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama, not to mention rename a Gulf as another exertion of territorial claim. Just own it. That's all I'm saying.

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And, in doing so, threaten military force on all but Canada, and for Canada, threatening "economic force."

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sombear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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sombear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

---

The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

---

Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

---

Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

---

This fits the precise definition of Imperialism. Hard economic power has been the cornerstone of imperialism since basically the beginning of empires. Downplay it as some "simple business deal" all you want, but it is what it is despite your efforts to spin it otherwise.

Some of us have always believed in exerting the strength of America abroad. It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama, not to mention rename a Gulf as another exertion of territorial claim. Just own it. That's all I'm saying.

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And, in doing so, threaten military force on all but Canada, and for Canada, threatening "economic force."

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You really think Trump is serious? Don't you think he is messing with Trudeau because Justin is such a "knob"?

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Yes I think he's serious, and so do our enemies and allies.

Trudeau announced his resignation, conservatives are poised to take over, and Trump is still provoking.

Our closest allies - UK, France, Germany, and Japan - have already had to speak out on Trump's saber rattling, as of those directly attacked - Mexico, Canada, Denmark, and Panama.

And it's headline news for our adversaries.

It's shameful.

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

---

The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

---

Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

---

Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

---

It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

---

The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

---

Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

---

Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

---

It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

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Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

---

The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

---

Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

---

Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

---

It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

---

Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

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Putin: "We're watching U.S. Greenland actions very closely."

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This map of Russian military bases in the Arctic and of potential shipping lanes through the Arctic Ocean makes it really clear why Greenland is essential to America’s national security pic.twitter.com/CqaEIEif3I

— Ethan Isaacson (@ethan1saacson) January 8, 2025

sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

---

The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

---

Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

---

It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

---

Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

---

It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

---

Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

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Putin: "We're watching U.S. Greenland actions very closely."

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He is scared of the USA dominating the arctic and having access to the vast resources of Greenland

I thought you guys hated russia and loved anything they disliked?

(ps putin does not need excuses to invade the ethnic russian parts of ukraine....he has already been doing that for years)

This map of Russian military bases in the Arctic and of potential shipping lanes through the Arctic Ocean makes it really clear why Greenland is essential to America’s national security pic.twitter.com/CqaEIEif3I

— Ethan Isaacson (@ethan1saacson) January 8, 2025

Having Greenland also puts most of Russia under threat from U.S. air power & Missiles and gives us radar warning stations in the event of a future conflict.

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I am not at all concerned about poking the Russian bear. We've been provoking each other for decades, and that will never stop. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of some on your side.

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

---

The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

---

Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

---

Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

---

It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

---

Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

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Putin: "We're watching U.S. Greenland actions very closely."

---

He is scared of the USA dominating the arctic and having access to the vast resources of Greenland

I thought you guys hated russia and loved anything they disliked?

(ps putin does not need excuses to invade the ethnic russian parts of ukraine....he has already been doing that for years)

This map of Russian military bases in the Arctic and of potential shipping lanes through the Arctic Ocean makes it really clear why Greenland is essential to America’s national security pic.twitter.com/CqaEIEif3I

— Ethan Isaacson (@ethan1saacson) January 8, 2025

Having Greenland also puts most of Russia under threat from U.S. air power & Missiles and gives us radar warning stations in the event of a future conflict.

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I am not at all concerned about poking the Russian bear. We've been provoking each other for decades, and that will never stop. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of some on your side.

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The Hypocrisy comes completely from your neo-con/neo-liberal interventionist side

Expansion and costly proxy wars into God awful areas of the world is somehow ok (Ukraine, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya) .......even if most of these interventionist and utopian plans end in massive failure.

But its a super big problem if we just try to buy resource rich and strategic Greenland or take back control of the Panama canal

The USA should be focusing on its traditional sphere of influence in the Western Hemisphere.....economically building it up and protecting it...not playing world cop in the 3rd World

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

---

The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

---

Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

---

It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

---

Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

---

It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

---

Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

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Putin: "We're watching U.S. Greenland actions very closely."

---

He is scared of the USA dominating the arctic and having access to the vast resources of Greenland

I thought you guys hated russia and loved anything they disliked?

(ps putin does not need excuses to invade the ethnic russian parts of ukraine....he has already been doing that for years)

This map of Russian military bases in the Arctic and of potential shipping lanes through the Arctic Ocean makes it really clear why Greenland is essential to America’s national security pic.twitter.com/CqaEIEif3I

— Ethan Isaacson (@ethan1saacson) January 8, 2025

Having Greenland also puts most of Russia under threat from U.S. air power & Missiles and gives us radar warning stations in the event of a future conflict.

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I am not at all concerned about poking the Russian bear. We've been provoking each other for decades, and that will never stop. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of some on your side.

My concern over Trump's bizarre Greenland/Denmark, Panama, and Canada rhetoric is more fundamental. I oppose imperialism of any kind, not just Russia's. I'm all for good deals. I oppose threats of military force or even economic war, particularly to our friends.

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

---

The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

---

Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

---

It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

---

Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

---

It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

---

Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

---

Putin: "We're watching U.S. Greenland actions very closely."

---

He is scared of the USA dominating the arctic and having access to the vast resources of Greenland

I thought you guys hated russia and loved anything they disliked?

(ps putin does not need excuses to invade the ethnic russian parts of ukraine....he has already been doing that for years)

This map of Russian military bases in the Arctic and of potential shipping lanes through the Arctic Ocean makes it really clear why Greenland is essential to America’s national security pic.twitter.com/CqaEIEif3I

— Ethan Isaacson (@ethan1saacson) January 8, 2025

Having Greenland also puts most of Russia under threat from U.S. air power & Missiles and gives us radar warning stations in the event of a future conflict.

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I am not at all concerned about poking the Russian bear. We've been provoking each other for decades, and that will never stop. I was pointing out the hypocrisy of some on your side.

My concern over Trump's bizarre Greenland/Denmark, Panama, and Canada rhetoric is more fundamental. I oppose imperialism of any kind, not just Russia's. I'm all for good deals. I oppose threats of military force or even economic war, particularly to our friends.

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ron.reagan said:

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I see the Nazi party reforming in real time.

There is no scenario where expansion of our borders is a lawful act. Military or financial pressure for a country to surrender it's sovereignty is an act of evil.

Thankfully I have not met a single conservative outside the internet that doesn't think Trump is going off the rails with this bull*****

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You are in for a frustrating four years.

Might want to load up on some tranquilizers and a dictionary.

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At least after you run away to Ireland you will probably still be part of the US soon

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With Harris safely out of power; no need to re visit Ireland ( or New Zealand ).

Instead it's back to Maui for a couple of weeks.

Don't wait up.

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

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The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

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Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

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Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

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It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

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Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

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I'm not going to rehash a multi hundred page thread about why thwarting Russia in Ukraine… but if you don't think this Greenland move isn't an equally or even more aggressive move in the eyes of Russia, I'm not sure what to say…

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

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The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

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Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

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Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

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It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

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Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

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I'm not going to rehash a multi hundred page thread about why thwarting Russia in Ukraine… but if you don't think this Greenland move isn't an equally or even more aggressive move in the eyes of Russia, I'm not sure what to say…

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Buying a Danish territory across the Arctic Ocean 2,000 miles from Russia with zero ethnic Russians living there that has already contained U.S. bases since the 1950s

Vs

Overthrowing the government of ukriane, trying to move it into the Western alliance, including millions of ethnic Russians living there, right on the door step of Moscow, a place literally controlled by Moscow since the 1600s, the current home for their Black Sea naval base, and the literally historic starting point of their civilization (old Kevian Russ)

You can't be freaking serious

The two places are not even in the same universe of importance

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

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The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

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Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

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Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

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It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

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Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

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I'm not going to rehash a multi hundred page thread about why thwarting Russia in Ukraine… but if you don't think this Greenland move isn't an equally or even more aggressive move in the eyes of Russia, I'm not sure what to say…

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Buying a Danish territory across the Arctic Ocean 2,000 miles from Russia with zero ethnic Russians living there that has already contained U.S. bases since the 1950s

Vs

Overthrowing the government of ukriane, trying to move it into the Western alliance, including millions of ethnic Russians living there, right on the door step of Moscow, a place literally controlled by Moscow since the 1600s, the current home for their Black Sea naval base, and the literally historic starting point of their civilization (old Kevian Russ)

You can't be freaking serious

The two places are not even in the same universe of importance

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

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The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

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Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

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Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

---

It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

---

Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

---

I'm not going to rehash a multi hundred page thread about why thwarting Russia in Ukraine… but if you don't think this Greenland move isn't an equally or even more aggressive move in the eyes of Russia, I'm not sure what to say…

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Buying a Danish territory across the Arctic Ocean 2,000 miles from Russia with zero ethnic Russians living there that has already contained U.S. bases since the 1950s

Vs

Overthrowing the government of ukriane, trying to move it into the Western alliance, including millions of ethnic Russians living there, right on the door step of Moscow, a place literally controlled by Moscow since the 1600s, the current home for their Black Sea naval base, and the literally historic starting point of their civilization (old Kevian Russ)

You can't be freaking serious

The two places are not even in the same universe of importance

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If you injected Putin with truth serum, he would be far more concerned with us taking over Greenland than with an independent, western-aligned Ukraine. Truly not even remotely close. Greenland is a major military (defense and offense) and economic advantage for us particularly relative to Russia. We're the only country he's truly worried about long term.

The difference is, he wouldn't declare war on the U.S. whereas he mistakenly thought the Pukie Ukies were easy prey.

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

---

The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

---

Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

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It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

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Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

---

It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

---

Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

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I'm not going to rehash a multi hundred page thread about why thwarting Russia in Ukraine… but if you don't think this Greenland move isn't an equally or even more aggressive move in the eyes of Russia, I'm not sure what to say…

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Buying a Danish territory across the Arctic Ocean 2,000 miles from Russia with zero ethnic Russians living there that has already contained U.S. bases since the 1950s

Vs

Overthrowing the government of ukriane, trying to move it into the Western alliance, including millions of ethnic Russians living there, right on the door step of Moscow, a place literally controlled by Moscow since the 1600s, the current home for their Black Sea naval base, and the literally historic starting point of their civilization (old Kevian Russ)

You can't be freaking serious

The two places are not even in the same universe of importance

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If you injected Putin with truth serum, he would be far more concerned with us taking over Greenland than with an independent, western-aligned Ukraine. Truly not even remotely close. Greenland is a major military (defense and offense) and economic advantage for us particularly relative to Russia. We're the only country he's truly worried about long term.

The difference is, he wouldn't declare war on the U.S. whereas he mistakenly thought the Pukie Ukies were easy prey.

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Maybe

Moscow has existed for a long time never controlling Greenland or setting foot on the island

While Moscow has controlled Ukraine (directly or indirectly) since the great Cossack revolt against the Poles in the 1640s

I think we know which of the two is more likely to be important to them (the one they are fighting and die for)

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ron.reagan said:

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KaiBear said:

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ron.reagan said:

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KaiBear said:

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ron.reagan said:

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I see the Nazi party reforming in real time.

There is no scenario where expansion of our borders is a lawful act. Military or financial pressure for a country to surrender it's sovereignty is an act of evil.

Thankfully I have not met a single conservative outside the internet that doesn't think Trump is going off the rails with this bull*****

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You are in for a frustrating four years.

Might want to load up on some tranquilizers and a dictionary.

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At least after you run away to Ireland you will probably still be part of the US soon

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With Harris safely out of power; no need to re visit Ireland ( or New Zealand ).

Instead it's back to Maui for a couple of weeks.

Don't wait up.

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You seem like the kind of guy that would enjoy the night life in Hana

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.

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Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit

---

The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.

---

Would those defense contractors be getting us into a costly proxy war over Greenland like in Ukraine against a nuclear armed power?

Amazing…its like your allergic to anything that would help the American people…and addicted to anything harms regular Americans

---

It's more like you're allergic to logic and self awareness. I'm not arguing against the Greenland move (except taking it by force). I only pointed out the strange twist in position relative to overt imperialism when suggested by Trump..

---

Calling a simple business deal "imperialism" is where your logic goes wrong from the start.

There is nothing imperialist about the USA offering to buy a underpopulated and under used territory from Denmark

Made even worse because you tried to tie it to your pathetic and clownish Ukraine war mongering

---

It's you guys who've been griping for several years about focusing inward and not spending gobs of money on foreign interests. Yet here we are with Trump wanting to literally expand our territorial and/or hegemonic footprint in Canada, Greenland, and Panama,

---

Again your logic is very flawed

You are 100% ok with gross imperialism (coups in eastern Europe to install new governments loyal to DC....that then spark off massive proxy wars against a regional power)

You just don't like voluntary expansion in our own sphere of influence (North America) that could help average Americans via economic and geo-strategic means

Buying Greenland, buying back the Panama Canal, potentially letting oil rich Alberta possibly join the USA would all be very very beneficial to us with low cost.

Your dump neo-liberal wars in frozen lands east of the Bug river give the average American nothing....and could end up being a civilizational disaster of epic portions if things go nuclear

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Putin: "We're watching U.S. Greenland actions very closely."

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He is scared of the USA dominating the arctic and having access to the vast resources of Greenland

I thought you guys hated russia and loved anything they disliked?

(ps putin does not need excuses to invade the ethnic russian parts of ukraine....he has already been doing that for years)

This map of Russian military bases in the Arctic and of potential shipping lanes through the Arctic Ocean makes it really clear why Greenland is essential to America’s national security pic.twitter.com/CqaEIEif3I

— Ethan Isaacson (@ethan1saacson) January 8, 2025

Having Greenland also puts most of Russia under threat from U.S. air power & Missiles and gives us radar warning stations in the event of a future conflict.

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I am not at all concerned about poking the Russian bear. We've been provoking each other for decades, and that will never stop.

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