KaiBear said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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4th and Inches said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Since Mr. Hegseth’s nomination last November, I have met with him and carefully reviewed his writings, various reports, and other pertinent materials. I closely followed his hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee and gathered substantial feedback from organizations,…

— Sen. Lisa Murkowski (@lisamurkowski) January 23, 2025

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thats 2, now we wait for the 3rd

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There is a reason the Military-Industrial Complex has drawn this line in the sand.

I wonder how much she's getting paid by defense contractors.

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This is not about that. He said he was modernizing, that means cash cow for contractors. Anyone coming in will support modernization and an increase in military spending.

This is personal, he said things in his hearing that might be overlooked in a Platoon meeting by a Junior Officer or E5 that is not what you want SecDef saying. Especially his contempt for the law (JAG corps) and admitting to ignoring rules of engagement That sounds good in movies, but in real.life a good way to be prosecuted for war crimes. This is SecDef we are talking about.

In addition to the personal life issues that may be overlooked in an elected official but not SecDef or law enforcement agency.

He would be fine as Press Secretary but not SecDef.

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Lloyd Austin is a buffoon who rode affirmative action to the top. He was so incompetent that he literally disappeared and no one noticed.

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Your comment about Austin encouraged me to look up his bio.

Yes it appears AA certainly aided his career, but why do folks consider him to be a buffoon ?

What do you mean that he 'disappeared' ?

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https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/4401316-the-disappearing-act-of-the-secretary-of-defense-and-why-it-matters/

FLBear5630 said:

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J.R. said:

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KaiBear said:

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This senator needs to find some integrity ad declare herself to be a Democrat

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Senator Murkowski is Liz Cheney 2.0. All about drama and making a name for herself.

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I prefer Murkoski to the Trumpian meows in the Senate. She has a mind of her own. Need more centrist R's, not MAGA

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I am more of a Murkowski fan than Collins. Murkowski has won as a write in candidate, she is tough. Also, having worked and lived in desolate areas, Murkowski does not care. What goes on in the lower 48 has little to NO impact on her life and career. She is much more Independent than Bernie ever was! I view her as an IND, not GOP.

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Trump said we needed Collins in the Senate as she is the only Republican in New England. I don't think he has plans to replace her. Murkowski on the other hand, he is not a fan of

After careful consideration, I have decided to vote against Pete Hegseth’s nomination for Secretary of Defense. While I appreciate his courageous military service and his ongoing commitment to our servicemembers and their families, I am concerned that he does not have the…

— Sen. Susan Collins (@SenatorCollins) January 23, 2025

FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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4th and Inches said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Since Mr. Hegseth’s nomination last November, I have met with him and carefully reviewed his writings, various reports, and other pertinent materials. I closely followed his hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee and gathered substantial feedback from organizations,…

— Sen. Lisa Murkowski (@lisamurkowski) January 23, 2025

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thats 2, now we wait for the 3rd

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There is a reason the Military-Industrial Complex has drawn this line in the sand.

I wonder how much she's getting paid by defense contractors.

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This is not about that. He said he was modernizing, that means cash cow for contractors. Anyone coming in will support modernization and an increase in military spending.

This is personal, he said things in his hearing that might be overlooked in a Platoon meeting by a Junior Officer or E5 that is not what you want SecDef saying. Especially his contempt for the law (JAG corps) and admitting to ignoring rules of engagement That sounds good in movies, but in real.life a good way to be prosecuted for war crimes. This is SecDef we are talking about.

In addition to the personal life issues that may be overlooked in an elected official but not SecDef or law enforcement agency.

He would be fine as Press Secretary but not SecDef.

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You're welcome to your opinion. The issue is that the chief executive should have the ability to appoint whom he wants without the constant attempts to undermine democracy. We just came four four years of the most incompetent administration in history where the only qualifications was being blek or mentally ill.

Lloyd Austin is a buffoon who rode affirmative action to the top. He was so incompetent that he literally disappeared and no one noticed.

The Military-Industrial complex hates Hegseth for a reason ... to me that makes him a great choice.

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That is not correct, there is a reason that the Senate has to confirm. The system is set up to make sure that unqualified or high risk people don't get confirmed. Your method is what produced Austin. Austin should not have been in that position for several reasons, the same with Mattis. They were not far enough away from their active duty time. Civilian control of the military should be a non-negotiable. Hegswath has other issues that make him problematic in that role. Notice I said "in that role", not that he can't be in the Trump's White House.

You guys want to just re-write the Constitution based on what you want and who the President is. Checks and Balances have to stay in place. Biden was a disaster because of just what you say we should do with Trump.

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Incorrect.

If you would turn of The View and were basically informed, you would realize 90% of the questions asked by the Democrat morons have nothing to do with the job.

The fact that the Military Industrial complex is full force against Hegsepth gives him points with me.

You guys just want to kill democracy and have us ruled by the global elites. The fact an actual soldier might run the Pentagon makes you guys nuts. You'd rather have a mentally ill man in a dress or a Didn't Earn It.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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4th and Inches said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Since Mr. Hegseth’s nomination last November, I have met with him and carefully reviewed his writings, various reports, and other pertinent materials. I closely followed his hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee and gathered substantial feedback from organizations,…

— Sen. Lisa Murkowski (@lisamurkowski) January 23, 2025

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thats 2, now we wait for the 3rd

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There is a reason the Military-Industrial Complex has drawn this line in the sand.

I wonder how much she's getting paid by defense contractors.

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This is not about that. He said he was modernizing, that means cash cow for contractors. Anyone coming in will support modernization and an increase in military spending.

This is personal, he said things in his hearing that might be overlooked in a Platoon meeting by a Junior Officer or E5 that is not what you want SecDef saying. Especially his contempt for the law (JAG corps) and admitting to ignoring rules of engagement That sounds good in movies, but in real.life a good way to be prosecuted for war crimes. This is SecDef we are talking about.

In addition to the personal life issues that may be overlooked in an elected official but not SecDef or law enforcement agency.

He would be fine as Press Secretary but not SecDef.

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You're welcome to your opinion. The issue is that the chief executive should have the ability to appoint whom he wants without the constant attempts to undermine democracy. We just came four four years of the most incompetent administration in history where the only qualifications was being blek or mentally ill.

Lloyd Austin is a buffoon who rode affirmative action to the top. He was so incompetent that he literally disappeared and no one noticed.

The Military-Industrial complex hates Hegseth for a reason ... to me that makes him a great choice.

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That is not correct, there is a reason that the Senate has to confirm. The system is set up to make sure that unqualified or high risk people don't get confirmed. Your method is what produced Austin. Austin should not have been in that position for several reasons, the same with Mattis. They were not far enough away from their active duty time. Civilian control of the military should be a non-negotiable. Hegswath has other issues that make him problematic in that role. Notice I said "in that role", not that he can't be in the Trump's White House.

You guys want to just re-write the Constitution based on what you want and who the President is. Checks and Balances have to stay in place. Biden was a disaster because of just what you say we should do with Trump.

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Incorrect.

If you would turn of The View and were basically informed, you would realize 90% of the questions asked by the Democrat morons have nothing to do with the job.

The fact that the Military Industrial complex is full force against Hegsepth gives him points with me.

You guys just want to kill democracy and have us ruled by the global elites. The fact an actual soldier might run the Pentagon makes you guys nuts. You'd rather have a mentally ill man in a dress or a Didn't Earn It.

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What questions were not about the job? That he doesn't listen to the Attorneys advising him? That the rules of engagement are fluid? That women shouldn't serve? Motherhood should disqualify someone?

He is being appointed. SECDEF and he answered like he was in a bar drinking beers with buddies. That doesn't concern you?

Assassin said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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4th and Inches said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Since Mr. Hegseth’s nomination last November, I have met with him and carefully reviewed his writings, various reports, and other pertinent materials. I closely followed his hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee and gathered substantial feedback from organizations,…

— Sen. Lisa Murkowski (@lisamurkowski) January 23, 2025

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thats 2, now we wait for the 3rd

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There is a reason the Military-Industrial Complex has drawn this line in the sand.

I wonder how much she's getting paid by defense contractors.

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This is not about that. He said he was modernizing, that means cash cow for contractors. Anyone coming in will support modernization and an increase in military spending.

This is personal, he said things in his hearing that might be overlooked in a Platoon meeting by a Junior Officer or E5 that is not what you want SecDef saying. Especially his contempt for the law (JAG corps) and admitting to ignoring rules of engagement That sounds good in movies, but in real.life a good way to be prosecuted for war crimes. This is SecDef we are talking about.

In addition to the personal life issues that may be overlooked in an elected official but not SecDef or law enforcement agency.

He would be fine as Press Secretary but not SecDef.

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You're welcome to your opinion. The issue is that the chief executive should have the ability to appoint whom he wants without the constant attempts to undermine democracy. We just came four four years of the most incompetent administration in history where the only qualifications was being blek or mentally ill.

Lloyd Austin is a buffoon who rode affirmative action to the top. He was so incompetent that he literally disappeared and no one noticed.

The Military-Industrial complex hates Hegseth for a reason ... to me that makes him a great choice.

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That is not correct, there is a reason that the Senate has to confirm. The system is set up to make sure that unqualified or high risk people don't get confirmed. Your method is what produced Austin. Austin should not have been in that position for several reasons, the same with Mattis. They were not far enough away from their active duty time. Civilian control of the military should be a non-negotiable. Hegswath has other issues that make him problematic in that role. Notice I said "in that role", not that he can't be in the Trump's White House.

You guys want to just re-write the Constitution based on what you want and who the President is. Checks and Balances have to stay in place. Biden was a disaster because of just what you say we should do with Trump.

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Incorrect.

If you would turn of The View and were basically informed, you would realize 90% of the questions asked by the Democrat morons have nothing to do with the job.

The fact that the Military Industrial complex is full force against Hegsepth gives him points with me.

You guys just want to kill democracy and have us ruled by the global elites. The fact an actual soldier might run the Pentagon makes you guys nuts. You'd rather have a mentally ill man in a dress or a Didn't Earn It.

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What questions were not about the job? That he doesn't listen to the Attorneys advising him? That the rules of engagement are fluid? That women shouldn't serve? Motherhood should disqualify someone?

He is being appointed. SECDEF and he answered like he was in a bar drinking beers with buddies. That doesn't concern you?

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Apparently you misheard quite a bit. I watched the whole thing. He didn't answer like he was in a bar. He was concise and accurate. And he didn't say women shouldn't serve. He said they shouldn't be in combat, not only for their being the weaker sex, but also because it changes the way males act around them and could be a 'hero' trying to go back and save a woman vs letting a guy take care of himself. And let me add, if enemy combatants take a gal prisoner, she is going to be raped over and over. This might/would lead us to mounting rescue missions we shouldn't go on.

There are a myriad of reasons women should not be in combat

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That is the least of his issues. They Russians and other Nations have had women in combat for ever. It is one thing to have an opinion, an other to set policy on it or be oblivious to the rest of the world in that position. His answer shows a lack of ability to navigate the environment of the SecDef. Focus on standards. Raise them. But if the person meets them they should be allowed to go forward. Genie is out of the bottle, she is not going back.

That is the least of it. The JAG and rules of engagement is the real problem, besides his drinking and personal life. Geez, anymore stuff. Trump is using too much political capital on this clown.

FLBear5630 said:

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Assassin said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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4th and Inches said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Since Mr. Hegseth’s nomination last November, I have met with him and carefully reviewed his writings, various reports, and other pertinent materials. I closely followed his hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee and gathered substantial feedback from organizations,…

— Sen. Lisa Murkowski (@lisamurkowski) January 23, 2025

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thats 2, now we wait for the 3rd

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There is a reason the Military-Industrial Complex has drawn this line in the sand.

I wonder how much she's getting paid by defense contractors.

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This is not about that. He said he was modernizing, that means cash cow for contractors. Anyone coming in will support modernization and an increase in military spending.

This is personal, he said things in his hearing that might be overlooked in a Platoon meeting by a Junior Officer or E5 that is not what you want SecDef saying. Especially his contempt for the law (JAG corps) and admitting to ignoring rules of engagement That sounds good in movies, but in real.life a good way to be prosecuted for war crimes. This is SecDef we are talking about.

In addition to the personal life issues that may be overlooked in an elected official but not SecDef or law enforcement agency.

He would be fine as Press Secretary but not SecDef.

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You're welcome to your opinion. The issue is that the chief executive should have the ability to appoint whom he wants without the constant attempts to undermine democracy. We just came four four years of the most incompetent administration in history where the only qualifications was being blek or mentally ill.

Lloyd Austin is a buffoon who rode affirmative action to the top. He was so incompetent that he literally disappeared and no one noticed.

The Military-Industrial complex hates Hegseth for a reason ... to me that makes him a great choice.

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That is not correct, there is a reason that the Senate has to confirm. The system is set up to make sure that unqualified or high risk people don't get confirmed. Your method is what produced Austin. Austin should not have been in that position for several reasons, the same with Mattis. They were not far enough away from their active duty time. Civilian control of the military should be a non-negotiable. Hegswath has other issues that make him problematic in that role. Notice I said "in that role", not that he can't be in the Trump's White House.

You guys want to just re-write the Constitution based on what you want and who the President is. Checks and Balances have to stay in place. Biden was a disaster because of just what you say we should do with Trump.

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Incorrect.

If you would turn of The View and were basically informed, you would realize 90% of the questions asked by the Democrat morons have nothing to do with the job.

The fact that the Military Industrial complex is full force against Hegsepth gives him points with me.

You guys just want to kill democracy and have us ruled by the global elites. The fact an actual soldier might run the Pentagon makes you guys nuts. You'd rather have a mentally ill man in a dress or a Didn't Earn It.

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What questions were not about the job? That he doesn't listen to the Attorneys advising him? That the rules of engagement are fluid? That women shouldn't serve? Motherhood should disqualify someone?

He is being appointed. SECDEF and he answered like he was in a bar drinking beers with buddies. That doesn't concern you?

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Apparently you misheard quite a bit. I watched the whole thing. He didn't answer like he was in a bar. He was concise and accurate. And he didn't say women shouldn't serve. He said they shouldn't be in combat, not only for their being the weaker sex, but also because it changes the way males act around them and could be a 'hero' trying to go back and save a woman vs letting a guy take care of himself. And let me add, if enemy combatants take a gal prisoner, she is going to be raped over and over. This might/would lead us to mounting rescue missions we shouldn't go on.

There are a myriad of reasons women should not be in combat

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That is the least of his issues. They Russians and other Nations have had women in combat for ever. It is one thing to have an opinion, an other to set policy on it or be oblivious to the rest of the world in that position. His answer shows a lack of ability to navigate the environment of the SecDef. Focus on standards. Raise them. But if the person meets them they should be allowed to go forward. Genie is out of the bottle, she is not going back.

That is the least of it. The JAG and rules of engagement is the real problem, besides his drinking and personal life. Geez, anymore stuff. Trump is using too much political capital on this clown.

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Not sure that saying that the Russians have had women in combat forever is a what anyone would claim is a good thing. It simply means they ran out of men... Israel just dealt with some of the women soldiers being taken and abused by Hamas.

Remember our women grew playing and wanting to be Barbie. Russian women grew up drinking, cussing and cutting the balls of Russian and Ukraine men

Women in combat roles is not a good thing, for anyone

FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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4th and Inches said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Since Mr. Hegseth’s nomination last November, I have met with him and carefully reviewed his writings, various reports, and other pertinent materials. I closely followed his hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee and gathered substantial feedback from organizations,…

— Sen. Lisa Murkowski (@lisamurkowski) January 23, 2025

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thats 2, now we wait for the 3rd

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There is a reason the Military-Industrial Complex has drawn this line in the sand.

I wonder how much she's getting paid by defense contractors.

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This is not about that. He said he was modernizing, that means cash cow for contractors. Anyone coming in will support modernization and an increase in military spending.

This is personal, he said things in his hearing that might be overlooked in a Platoon meeting by a Junior Officer or E5 that is not what you want SecDef saying. Especially his contempt for the law (JAG corps) and admitting to ignoring rules of engagement That sounds good in movies, but in real.life a good way to be prosecuted for war crimes. This is SecDef we are talking about.

In addition to the personal life issues that may be overlooked in an elected official but not SecDef or law enforcement agency.

He would be fine as Press Secretary but not SecDef.

---

You're welcome to your opinion. The issue is that the chief executive should have the ability to appoint whom he wants without the constant attempts to undermine democracy. We just came four four years of the most incompetent administration in history where the only qualifications was being blek or mentally ill.

Lloyd Austin is a buffoon who rode affirmative action to the top. He was so incompetent that he literally disappeared and no one noticed.

The Military-Industrial complex hates Hegseth for a reason ... to me that makes him a great choice.

---

That is not correct, there is a reason that the Senate has to confirm. The system is set up to make sure that unqualified or high risk people don't get confirmed. Your method is what produced Austin. Austin should not have been in that position for several reasons, the same with Mattis. They were not far enough away from their active duty time. Civilian control of the military should be a non-negotiable. Hegswath has other issues that make him problematic in that role. Notice I said "in that role", not that he can't be in the Trump's White House.

You guys want to just re-write the Constitution based on what you want and who the President is. Checks and Balances have to stay in place. Biden was a disaster because of just what you say we should do with Trump.

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Incorrect.

If you would turn of The View and were basically informed, you would realize 90% of the questions asked by the Democrat morons have nothing to do with the job.

The fact that the Military Industrial complex is full force against Hegsepth gives him points with me.

You guys just want to kill democracy and have us ruled by the global elites. The fact an actual soldier might run the Pentagon makes you guys nuts. You'd rather have a mentally ill man in a dress or a Didn't Earn It.

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What questions were not about the job? That he doesn't listen to the Attorneys advising him? That the rules of engagement are fluid? That women shouldn't serve? Motherhood should disqualify someone?

He is being appointed. SECDEF and he answered like he was in a bar drinking beers with buddies. That doesn't concern you?

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You are misrepresenting what he said. Around rules of engagement, he was talking about men on the ground getting contradictory orders and confusion.

Turn off the View - he never said women should not serve. Do you just make this stuff up?

Actually listen to his words.

I appreciate having someone as SECDEF that has actually served and is more interested in winning wars that extreme culture war crap. Biden turned the military into a Gaystapo and Didn't Earn It lab, which is why recruitment collapsed. Recruitment already has taken off. I guess we can agree to disagree - I like having a SECDEF that energizes the soldiers as opposed to one that energizes the Military-Industrial complex.

No it does not concern me. How many years did you serve? How many tours did you serve - was it in Afghanistan or Iraq?

Word is he will be confirmed. Later today to miss the barking dog media.

Seems like something else Trump has learned, how to time actions.

Maisy HIrono is just a complete half-wit. Honestly, it is embarrassing what the Democrats put out there these days. Kristen Gillebrand, Maisy Hirono, Sheldon Whitehorse,

I mean you may not have liked his politics, but Daniel P. Moynihan or Lloyd Bentsen were a handful when they wanted to be.

The vote is at 8pm cst.

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Word is he will be confirmed. Later today to miss the barking dog media.

Seems like something else Trump has learned, how to time actions.

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Wondering if he will take the Mayor back to Ghana on the return trip east?

Are these 4 voting no….Collins, Murkowski, Tills, McConnell?

Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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4th and Inches said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Since Mr. Hegseth’s nomination last November, I have met with him and carefully reviewed his writings, various reports, and other pertinent materials. I closely followed his hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee and gathered substantial feedback from organizations,…

— Sen. Lisa Murkowski (@lisamurkowski) January 23, 2025

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thats 2, now we wait for the 3rd

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There is a reason the Military-Industrial Complex has drawn this line in the sand.

I wonder how much she's getting paid by defense contractors.

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This is not about that. He said he was modernizing, that means cash cow for contractors. Anyone coming in will support modernization and an increase in military spending.

This is personal, he said things in his hearing that might be overlooked in a Platoon meeting by a Junior Officer or E5 that is not what you want SecDef saying. Especially his contempt for the law (JAG corps) and admitting to ignoring rules of engagement That sounds good in movies, but in real.life a good way to be prosecuted for war crimes. This is SecDef we are talking about.

In addition to the personal life issues that may be overlooked in an elected official but not SecDef or law enforcement agency.

He would be fine as Press Secretary but not SecDef.

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You're welcome to your opinion. The issue is that the chief executive should have the ability to appoint whom he wants without the constant attempts to undermine democracy. We just came four four years of the most incompetent administration in history where the only qualifications was being blek or mentally ill.

Lloyd Austin is a buffoon who rode affirmative action to the top. He was so incompetent that he literally disappeared and no one noticed.

The Military-Industrial complex hates Hegseth for a reason ... to me that makes him a great choice.

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That is not correct, there is a reason that the Senate has to confirm. The system is set up to make sure that unqualified or high risk people don't get confirmed. Your method is what produced Austin. Austin should not have been in that position for several reasons, the same with Mattis. They were not far enough away from their active duty time. Civilian control of the military should be a non-negotiable. Hegswath has other issues that make him problematic in that role. Notice I said "in that role", not that he can't be in the Trump's White House.

You guys want to just re-write the Constitution based on what you want and who the President is. Checks and Balances have to stay in place. Biden was a disaster because of just what you say we should do with Trump.

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Incorrect.

If you would turn of The View and were basically informed, you would realize 90% of the questions asked by the Democrat morons have nothing to do with the job.

The fact that the Military Industrial complex is full force against Hegsepth gives him points with me.

You guys just want to kill democracy and have us ruled by the global elites. The fact an actual soldier might run the Pentagon makes you guys nuts. You'd rather have a mentally ill man in a dress or a Didn't Earn It.

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What questions were not about the job? That he doesn't listen to the Attorneys advising him? That the rules of engagement are fluid? That women shouldn't serve? Motherhood should disqualify someone?

He is being appointed. SECDEF and he answered like he was in a bar drinking beers with buddies. That doesn't concern you?

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You are misrepresenting what he said. Around rules of engagement, he was talking about men on the ground getting contradictory orders and confusion.

Turn off the View - he never said women should not serve. Do you just make this stuff up?

Actually listen to his words.

I appreciate having someone as SECDEF that has actually served and is more interested in winning wars that extreme culture war crap. Biden turned the military into a Gaystapo and Didn't Earn It lab, which is why recruitment collapsed. Recruitment already has taken off. I guess we can agree to disagree - I like having a SECDEF that energizes the soldiers as opposed to one that energizes the Military-Industrial complex.

No it does not concern me. How many years did you serve? How many tours did you serve - was it in Afghanistan or Iraq?

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Yes, I served.

But, that is irrelevant to this discussion. EVERY Citizen has the right to voice their opinion and someone that never served opinion is just as valid. There is no "qualifier" on Citizen's opinions on if a person is qualified OR has a disqualifier for a Cabinet position during Confirmation hearings.

He has some serious issues FOR THIS PARTICULAR POSITION, personal and some of the stuff he said in his book and at the hearing. Serving as a Junior Officer in the National Guard does not in itself qualify a person for SecDef. Serving in a combat tour doesn't either. SecDef is not a combat position, it is a political position. It is more about getting resources and managing Congress than being able to pass Expert Infantry testing. Just like Gabbard has some issues for Intel, even though I like her. The guy has a history of wife abuse, drinking, financial mismanagement AND said he told his troops to disregard rules and engagement. Not to mention his contempt for the JAG Corp, which he will be dealing with as SecDef.

By the way, the Infantry like them just fine when they get them off of Article 15s. get hardship chapters, claims settled and host of other issues. He just doesn't like them because they told him he has to follow the rules of engagement. JAG is who defends these guys when accused and get them off.

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Are these 4 voting no….Collins, Murkowski, Tills, McConnell?

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they may just not vote instead of voting no

FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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4th and Inches said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Since Mr. Hegseth’s nomination last November, I have met with him and carefully reviewed his writings, various reports, and other pertinent materials. I closely followed his hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee and gathered substantial feedback from organizations,…

— Sen. Lisa Murkowski (@lisamurkowski) January 23, 2025

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thats 2, now we wait for the 3rd

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There is a reason the Military-Industrial Complex has drawn this line in the sand.

I wonder how much she's getting paid by defense contractors.

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This is not about that. He said he was modernizing, that means cash cow for contractors. Anyone coming in will support modernization and an increase in military spending.

This is personal, he said things in his hearing that might be overlooked in a Platoon meeting by a Junior Officer or E5 that is not what you want SecDef saying. Especially his contempt for the law (JAG corps) and admitting to ignoring rules of engagement That sounds good in movies, but in real.life a good way to be prosecuted for war crimes. This is SecDef we are talking about.

In addition to the personal life issues that may be overlooked in an elected official but not SecDef or law enforcement agency.

He would be fine as Press Secretary but not SecDef.

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You're welcome to your opinion. The issue is that the chief executive should have the ability to appoint whom he wants without the constant attempts to undermine democracy. We just came four four years of the most incompetent administration in history where the only qualifications was being blek or mentally ill.

Lloyd Austin is a buffoon who rode affirmative action to the top. He was so incompetent that he literally disappeared and no one noticed.

The Military-Industrial complex hates Hegseth for a reason ... to me that makes him a great choice.

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That is not correct, there is a reason that the Senate has to confirm. The system is set up to make sure that unqualified or high risk people don't get confirmed. Your method is what produced Austin. Austin should not have been in that position for several reasons, the same with Mattis. They were not far enough away from their active duty time. Civilian control of the military should be a non-negotiable. Hegswath has other issues that make him problematic in that role. Notice I said "in that role", not that he can't be in the Trump's White House.

You guys want to just re-write the Constitution based on what you want and who the President is. Checks and Balances have to stay in place. Biden was a disaster because of just what you say we should do with Trump.

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Incorrect.

If you would turn of The View and were basically informed, you would realize 90% of the questions asked by the Democrat morons have nothing to do with the job.

The fact that the Military Industrial complex is full force against Hegsepth gives him points with me.

You guys just want to kill democracy and have us ruled by the global elites. The fact an actual soldier might run the Pentagon makes you guys nuts. You'd rather have a mentally ill man in a dress or a Didn't Earn It.

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What questions were not about the job? That he doesn't listen to the Attorneys advising him? That the rules of engagement are fluid? That women shouldn't serve? Motherhood should disqualify someone?

He is being appointed. SECDEF and he answered like he was in a bar drinking beers with buddies. That doesn't concern you?

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You are misrepresenting what he said. Around rules of engagement, he was talking about men on the ground getting contradictory orders and confusion.

Turn off the View - he never said women should not serve. Do you just make this stuff up?

Actually listen to his words.

I appreciate having someone as SECDEF that has actually served and is more interested in winning wars that extreme culture war crap. Biden turned the military into a Gaystapo and Didn't Earn It lab, which is why recruitment collapsed. Recruitment already has taken off. I guess we can agree to disagree - I like having a SECDEF that energizes the soldiers as opposed to one that energizes the Military-Industrial complex.

No it does not concern me. How many years did you serve? How many tours did you serve - was it in Afghanistan or Iraq?

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Yes, I served.

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Thanks for your service

Assassin said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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4th and Inches said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Since Mr. Hegseth’s nomination last November, I have met with him and carefully reviewed his writings, various reports, and other pertinent materials. I closely followed his hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee and gathered substantial feedback from organizations,…

— Sen. Lisa Murkowski (@lisamurkowski) January 23, 2025

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thats 2, now we wait for the 3rd

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There is a reason the Military-Industrial Complex has drawn this line in the sand.

I wonder how much she's getting paid by defense contractors.

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This is not about that. He said he was modernizing, that means cash cow for contractors. Anyone coming in will support modernization and an increase in military spending.

This is personal, he said things in his hearing that might be overlooked in a Platoon meeting by a Junior Officer or E5 that is not what you want SecDef saying. Especially his contempt for the law (JAG corps) and admitting to ignoring rules of engagement That sounds good in movies, but in real.life a good way to be prosecuted for war crimes. This is SecDef we are talking about.

In addition to the personal life issues that may be overlooked in an elected official but not SecDef or law enforcement agency.

He would be fine as Press Secretary but not SecDef.

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You're welcome to your opinion. The issue is that the chief executive should have the ability to appoint whom he wants without the constant attempts to undermine democracy. We just came four four years of the most incompetent administration in history where the only qualifications was being blek or mentally ill.

Lloyd Austin is a buffoon who rode affirmative action to the top. He was so incompetent that he literally disappeared and no one noticed.

The Military-Industrial complex hates Hegseth for a reason ... to me that makes him a great choice.

---

That is not correct, there is a reason that the Senate has to confirm. The system is set up to make sure that unqualified or high risk people don't get confirmed. Your method is what produced Austin. Austin should not have been in that position for several reasons, the same with Mattis. They were not far enough away from their active duty time. Civilian control of the military should be a non-negotiable. Hegswath has other issues that make him problematic in that role. Notice I said "in that role", not that he can't be in the Trump's White House.

You guys want to just re-write the Constitution based on what you want and who the President is. Checks and Balances have to stay in place. Biden was a disaster because of just what you say we should do with Trump.

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Incorrect.

If you would turn of The View and were basically informed, you would realize 90% of the questions asked by the Democrat morons have nothing to do with the job.

The fact that the Military Industrial complex is full force against Hegsepth gives him points with me.

You guys just want to kill democracy and have us ruled by the global elites. The fact an actual soldier might run the Pentagon makes you guys nuts. You'd rather have a mentally ill man in a dress or a Didn't Earn It.

---

What questions were not about the job? That he doesn't listen to the Attorneys advising him? That the rules of engagement are fluid? That women shouldn't serve? Motherhood should disqualify someone?

He is being appointed. SECDEF and he answered like he was in a bar drinking beers with buddies. That doesn't concern you?

---

You are misrepresenting what he said. Around rules of engagement, he was talking about men on the ground getting contradictory orders and confusion.

Turn off the View - he never said women should not serve. Do you just make this stuff up?

Actually listen to his words.

I appreciate having someone as SECDEF that has actually served and is more interested in winning wars that extreme culture war crap. Biden turned the military into a Gaystapo and Didn't Earn It lab, which is why recruitment collapsed. Recruitment already has taken off. I guess we can agree to disagree - I like having a SECDEF that energizes the soldiers as opposed to one that energizes the Military-Industrial complex.

No it does not concern me. How many years did you serve? How many tours did you serve - was it in Afghanistan or Iraq?

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Yes, I served.

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Thanks for your service

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You are welcome.

That I or anyone else served does not make their opinions more valid when it comes to our Government. People serve our Nation in different ways. Any citizen has just as much right to an opinion and vote as any other. I am sick of hearing that some Navy SEAL has a more valid say than a Navy cook or tech. They all serve a role. Do your job, whatever it is, that is all that counts. We all have different skill sets. Hegwath does not believe that based on his comments, that is why I can't get behind him. He thinks his opinion is more valid.

What I saw in the 82nd. A JAG officer that serves in the 82nd for 20 years has more credibility than ANY National Guard officer, period. But, that is irrelevant to whether he is qualified.

What happens if Fetterman, let's say, decides to Abstain and Hegseth gets 50, so it ends 50-49, will he be approved?

FLBear5630 said:

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Assassin said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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4th and Inches said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Since Mr. Hegseth’s nomination last November, I have met with him and carefully reviewed his writings, various reports, and other pertinent materials. I closely followed his hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee and gathered substantial feedback from organizations,…

— Sen. Lisa Murkowski (@lisamurkowski) January 23, 2025

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thats 2, now we wait for the 3rd

---

There is a reason the Military-Industrial Complex has drawn this line in the sand.

I wonder how much she's getting paid by defense contractors.

---

This is not about that. He said he was modernizing, that means cash cow for contractors. Anyone coming in will support modernization and an increase in military spending.

This is personal, he said things in his hearing that might be overlooked in a Platoon meeting by a Junior Officer or E5 that is not what you want SecDef saying. Especially his contempt for the law (JAG corps) and admitting to ignoring rules of engagement That sounds good in movies, but in real.life a good way to be prosecuted for war crimes. This is SecDef we are talking about.

In addition to the personal life issues that may be overlooked in an elected official but not SecDef or law enforcement agency.

He would be fine as Press Secretary but not SecDef.

---

You're welcome to your opinion. The issue is that the chief executive should have the ability to appoint whom he wants without the constant attempts to undermine democracy. We just came four four years of the most incompetent administration in history where the only qualifications was being blek or mentally ill.

Lloyd Austin is a buffoon who rode affirmative action to the top. He was so incompetent that he literally disappeared and no one noticed.

The Military-Industrial complex hates Hegseth for a reason ... to me that makes him a great choice.

---

That is not correct, there is a reason that the Senate has to confirm. The system is set up to make sure that unqualified or high risk people don't get confirmed. Your method is what produced Austin. Austin should not have been in that position for several reasons, the same with Mattis. They were not far enough away from their active duty time. Civilian control of the military should be a non-negotiable. Hegswath has other issues that make him problematic in that role. Notice I said "in that role", not that he can't be in the Trump's White House.

You guys want to just re-write the Constitution based on what you want and who the President is. Checks and Balances have to stay in place. Biden was a disaster because of just what you say we should do with Trump.

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Incorrect.

If you would turn of The View and were basically informed, you would realize 90% of the questions asked by the Democrat morons have nothing to do with the job.

The fact that the Military Industrial complex is full force against Hegsepth gives him points with me.

You guys just want to kill democracy and have us ruled by the global elites. The fact an actual soldier might run the Pentagon makes you guys nuts. You'd rather have a mentally ill man in a dress or a Didn't Earn It.

---

What questions were not about the job? That he doesn't listen to the Attorneys advising him? That the rules of engagement are fluid? That women shouldn't serve? Motherhood should disqualify someone?

He is being appointed. SECDEF and he answered like he was in a bar drinking beers with buddies. That doesn't concern you?

---

You are misrepresenting what he said. Around rules of engagement, he was talking about men on the ground getting contradictory orders and confusion.

Turn off the View - he never said women should not serve. Do you just make this stuff up?

Actually listen to his words.

I appreciate having someone as SECDEF that has actually served and is more interested in winning wars that extreme culture war crap. Biden turned the military into a Gaystapo and Didn't Earn It lab, which is why recruitment collapsed. Recruitment already has taken off. I guess we can agree to disagree - I like having a SECDEF that energizes the soldiers as opposed to one that energizes the Military-Industrial complex.

No it does not concern me. How many years did you serve? How many tours did you serve - was it in Afghanistan or Iraq?

---

Yes, I served.

---

Thanks for your service

---

You are welcome.

That I or anyone else served does not make their opinions more valid when it comes to our Government. People serve our Nation in different ways. Any citizen has just as much right to an opinion and vote as any other. I am sick of hearing that some Navy SEAL has a more valid say than a Navy cook or tech. They all serve a role. Do your job, whatever it is, that is all that counts. We all have different skill sets. Hegwath does not believe that based on his comments, that is why I can't get behind him. He thinks his opinion is more valid.

What I saw in the 82nd. A JAG officer that serves in the 82nd for 20 years has more credibility than ANY National Guard officer, period. But, that is irrelevant to whether he is qualified.

---

A. IMO those who spend time overseas on any deployment possess more valid viewpoints.
B. IMO those who saw combat possess even more valuable and insightful opinions.
C. IMO reserve officers were no better or worse than ring knockers It all came down to the individual.
D. Did not realize you were in the 82nd. Well done.

Assassin said:

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What happens if Fetterman, let's say, decides to Abstain and Hegseth gets 50, so it ends 50-49, will he be approved?

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50 is a win bc JD can cast the deciding vote if needed.

Women dont belong in combat and they shouldnt be cops out in the field. THey can work at the station or back at the HQ but they dont belong in active situations where people can die if they cant fight. This is basic level stuff.

Vote going right now. To the R's, waiting on Tillis.

Didnt see him come up

No Tullis or McDoodoo yet

Tillis is a YES!! Thats a confirmation

McDoodoo was a No. Hopefully that puts him ouy to pasture.

JD will vote Hegseth in

FYI - Fetterman voted no

CONFIRMED

Makes you wonder if Danielle Deitrich will still get paid by the far left.

KaiBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Assassin said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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4th and Inches said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Since Mr. Hegseth’s nomination last November, I have met with him and carefully reviewed his writings, various reports, and other pertinent materials. I closely followed his hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee and gathered substantial feedback from organizations,…

— Sen. Lisa Murkowski (@lisamurkowski) January 23, 2025

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thats 2, now we wait for the 3rd

---

There is a reason the Military-Industrial Complex has drawn this line in the sand.

I wonder how much she's getting paid by defense contractors.

---

This is not about that. He said he was modernizing, that means cash cow for contractors. Anyone coming in will support modernization and an increase in military spending.

This is personal, he said things in his hearing that might be overlooked in a Platoon meeting by a Junior Officer or E5 that is not what you want SecDef saying. Especially his contempt for the law (JAG corps) and admitting to ignoring rules of engagement That sounds good in movies, but in real.life a good way to be prosecuted for war crimes. This is SecDef we are talking about.

In addition to the personal life issues that may be overlooked in an elected official but not SecDef or law enforcement agency.

He would be fine as Press Secretary but not SecDef.

---

You're welcome to your opinion. The issue is that the chief executive should have the ability to appoint whom he wants without the constant attempts to undermine democracy. We just came four four years of the most incompetent administration in history where the only qualifications was being blek or mentally ill.

Lloyd Austin is a buffoon who rode affirmative action to the top. He was so incompetent that he literally disappeared and no one noticed.

The Military-Industrial complex hates Hegseth for a reason ... to me that makes him a great choice.

---

That is not correct, there is a reason that the Senate has to confirm. The system is set up to make sure that unqualified or high risk people don't get confirmed. Your method is what produced Austin. Austin should not have been in that position for several reasons, the same with Mattis. They were not far enough away from their active duty time. Civilian control of the military should be a non-negotiable. Hegswath has other issues that make him problematic in that role. Notice I said "in that role", not that he can't be in the Trump's White House.

You guys want to just re-write the Constitution based on what you want and who the President is. Checks and Balances have to stay in place. Biden was a disaster because of just what you say we should do with Trump.

---

Incorrect.

If you would turn of The View and were basically informed, you would realize 90% of the questions asked by the Democrat morons have nothing to do with the job.

The fact that the Military Industrial complex is full force against Hegsepth gives him points with me.

You guys just want to kill democracy and have us ruled by the global elites. The fact an actual soldier might run the Pentagon makes you guys nuts. You'd rather have a mentally ill man in a dress or a Didn't Earn It.

---

What questions were not about the job? That he doesn't listen to the Attorneys advising him? That the rules of engagement are fluid? That women shouldn't serve? Motherhood should disqualify someone?

He is being appointed. SECDEF and he answered like he was in a bar drinking beers with buddies. That doesn't concern you?

---

You are misrepresenting what he said. Around rules of engagement, he was talking about men on the ground getting contradictory orders and confusion.

Turn off the View - he never said women should not serve. Do you just make this stuff up?

Actually listen to his words.

I appreciate having someone as SECDEF that has actually served and is more interested in winning wars that extreme culture war crap. Biden turned the military into a Gaystapo and Didn't Earn It lab, which is why recruitment collapsed. Recruitment already has taken off. I guess we can agree to disagree - I like having a SECDEF that energizes the soldiers as opposed to one that energizes the Military-Industrial complex.

No it does not concern me. How many years did you serve? How many tours did you serve - was it in Afghanistan or Iraq?

---

Yes, I served.

---

Thanks for your service

---

You are welcome.

That I or anyone else served does not make their opinions more valid when it comes to our Government. People serve our Nation in different ways. Any citizen has just as much right to an opinion and vote as any other. I am sick of hearing that some Navy SEAL has a more valid say than a Navy cook or tech. They all serve a role. Do your job, whatever it is, that is all that counts. We all have different skill sets. Hegwath does not believe that based on his comments, that is why I can't get behind him. He thinks his opinion is more valid.

What I saw in the 82nd. A JAG officer that serves in the 82nd for 20 years has more credibility than ANY National Guard officer, period. But, that is irrelevant to whether he is qualified.

---

A. IMO those who spend time overseas on any deployment possess more valid viewpoints.
B. IMO those who saw combat possess even more valuable and insightful opinions.
C. IMO reserve officers were no better or worse than ring knockers It all came down to the individual.
D. Did not realize you were in the 82nd. Well done.

---

2 years. Dumb, only care about getting drunk and laid (which was next to impossible in Fayetteville, 20,000 guys and 6 women) PFC... Like every other PFC. : ). Funny, you miss those days at 60 and hated them at 22.

As for Hegwath, I come from a different time. Reagan was commander in chief and Weinberger SecDef. So, we will see now that he is confirmed. I hope he puts the dumb, drunk PFC first and the agenda second.

FLBear5630 said:

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KaiBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Assassin said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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4th and Inches said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Since Mr. Hegseth’s nomination last November, I have met with him and carefully reviewed his writings, various reports, and other pertinent materials. I closely followed his hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee and gathered substantial feedback from organizations,…

— Sen. Lisa Murkowski (@lisamurkowski) January 23, 2025

---

thats 2, now we wait for the 3rd

---

There is a reason the Military-Industrial Complex has drawn this line in the sand.

I wonder how much she's getting paid by defense contractors.

---

This is not about that. He said he was modernizing, that means cash cow for contractors. Anyone coming in will support modernization and an increase in military spending.

This is personal, he said things in his hearing that might be overlooked in a Platoon meeting by a Junior Officer or E5 that is not what you want SecDef saying. Especially his contempt for the law (JAG corps) and admitting to ignoring rules of engagement That sounds good in movies, but in real.life a good way to be prosecuted for war crimes. This is SecDef we are talking about.

In addition to the personal life issues that may be overlooked in an elected official but not SecDef or law enforcement agency.

He would be fine as Press Secretary but not SecDef.

---

You're welcome to your opinion. The issue is that the chief executive should have the ability to appoint whom he wants without the constant attempts to undermine democracy. We just came four four years of the most incompetent administration in history where the only qualifications was being blek or mentally ill.

Lloyd Austin is a buffoon who rode affirmative action to the top. He was so incompetent that he literally disappeared and no one noticed.

The Military-Industrial complex hates Hegseth for a reason ... to me that makes him a great choice.

---

That is not correct, there is a reason that the Senate has to confirm. The system is set up to make sure that unqualified or high risk people don't get confirmed. Your method is what produced Austin. Austin should not have been in that position for several reasons, the same with Mattis. They were not far enough away from their active duty time. Civilian control of the military should be a non-negotiable. Hegswath has other issues that make him problematic in that role. Notice I said "in that role", not that he can't be in the Trump's White House.

You guys want to just re-write the Constitution based on what you want and who the President is. Checks and Balances have to stay in place. Biden was a disaster because of just what you say we should do with Trump.

---

Incorrect.

If you would turn of The View and were basically informed, you would realize 90% of the questions asked by the Democrat morons have nothing to do with the job.

The fact that the Military Industrial complex is full force against Hegsepth gives him points with me.

You guys just want to kill democracy and have us ruled by the global elites. The fact an actual soldier might run the Pentagon makes you guys nuts. You'd rather have a mentally ill man in a dress or a Didn't Earn It.

---

What questions were not about the job? That he doesn't listen to the Attorneys advising him? That the rules of engagement are fluid? That women shouldn't serve? Motherhood should disqualify someone?

He is being appointed. SECDEF and he answered like he was in a bar drinking beers with buddies. That doesn't concern you?

---

You are misrepresenting what he said. Around rules of engagement, he was talking about men on the ground getting contradictory orders and confusion.

Turn off the View - he never said women should not serve. Do you just make this stuff up?

Actually listen to his words.

I appreciate having someone as SECDEF that has actually served and is more interested in winning wars that extreme culture war crap. Biden turned the military into a Gaystapo and Didn't Earn It lab, which is why recruitment collapsed. Recruitment already has taken off. I guess we can agree to disagree - I like having a SECDEF that energizes the soldiers as opposed to one that energizes the Military-Industrial complex.

No it does not concern me. How many years did you serve? How many tours did you serve - was it in Afghanistan or Iraq?

---

Yes, I served.

---

Thanks for your service

---

You are welcome.

That I or anyone else served does not make their opinions more valid when it comes to our Government. People serve our Nation in different ways. Any citizen has just as much right to an opinion and vote as any other. I am sick of hearing that some Navy SEAL has a more valid say than a Navy cook or tech. They all serve a role. Do your job, whatever it is, that is all that counts. We all have different skill sets. Hegwath does not believe that based on his comments, that is why I can't get behind him. He thinks his opinion is more valid.

What I saw in the 82nd. A JAG officer that serves in the 82nd for 20 years has more credibility than ANY National Guard officer, period. But, that is irrelevant to whether he is qualified.

---

A. IMO those who spend time overseas on any deployment possess more valid viewpoints.
B. IMO those who saw combat possess even more valuable and insightful opinions.
C. IMO reserve officers were no better or worse than ring knockers It all came down to the individual.
D. Did not realize you were in the 82nd. Well done.

---

2 years. Dumb, only care about getting drunk and laid (which was next to impossible in Fayetteville, 20,000 guys and 6 women) PFC... Like every other PFC. : ). Funny, you miss those days at 60 and hated them at 22.

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At 69 you hate the waste of lives.

50 50….Vance breaks the tie.

KaiBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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KaiBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Assassin said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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4th and Inches said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Since Mr. Hegseth’s nomination last November, I have met with him and carefully reviewed his writings, various reports, and other pertinent materials. I closely followed his hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee and gathered substantial feedback from organizations,…

— Sen. Lisa Murkowski (@lisamurkowski) January 23, 2025

---

thats 2, now we wait for the 3rd

---

There is a reason the Military-Industrial Complex has drawn this line in the sand.

I wonder how much she's getting paid by defense contractors.

---

This is not about that. He said he was modernizing, that means cash cow for contractors. Anyone coming in will support modernization and an increase in military spending.

This is personal, he said things in his hearing that might be overlooked in a Platoon meeting by a Junior Officer or E5 that is not what you want SecDef saying. Especially his contempt for the law (JAG corps) and admitting to ignoring rules of engagement That sounds good in movies, but in real.life a good way to be prosecuted for war crimes. This is SecDef we are talking about.

In addition to the personal life issues that may be overlooked in an elected official but not SecDef or law enforcement agency.

He would be fine as Press Secretary but not SecDef.

---

You're welcome to your opinion. The issue is that the chief executive should have the ability to appoint whom he wants without the constant attempts to undermine democracy. We just came four four years of the most incompetent administration in history where the only qualifications was being blek or mentally ill.

Lloyd Austin is a buffoon who rode affirmative action to the top. He was so incompetent that he literally disappeared and no one noticed.

The Military-Industrial complex hates Hegseth for a reason ... to me that makes him a great choice.

---

That is not correct, there is a reason that the Senate has to confirm. The system is set up to make sure that unqualified or high risk people don't get confirmed. Your method is what produced Austin. Austin should not have been in that position for several reasons, the same with Mattis. They were not far enough away from their active duty time. Civilian control of the military should be a non-negotiable. Hegswath has other issues that make him problematic in that role. Notice I said "in that role", not that he can't be in the Trump's White House.

You guys want to just re-write the Constitution based on what you want and who the President is. Checks and Balances have to stay in place. Biden was a disaster because of just what you say we should do with Trump.

---

Incorrect.

If you would turn of The View and were basically informed, you would realize 90% of the questions asked by the Democrat morons have nothing to do with the job.

The fact that the Military Industrial complex is full force against Hegsepth gives him points with me.

You guys just want to kill democracy and have us ruled by the global elites. The fact an actual soldier might run the Pentagon makes you guys nuts. You'd rather have a mentally ill man in a dress or a Didn't Earn It.

---

What questions were not about the job? That he doesn't listen to the Attorneys advising him? That the rules of engagement are fluid? That women shouldn't serve? Motherhood should disqualify someone?

He is being appointed. SECDEF and he answered like he was in a bar drinking beers with buddies. That doesn't concern you?

---

You are misrepresenting what he said. Around rules of engagement, he was talking about men on the ground getting contradictory orders and confusion.

Turn off the View - he never said women should not serve. Do you just make this stuff up?

Actually listen to his words.

I appreciate having someone as SECDEF that has actually served and is more interested in winning wars that extreme culture war crap. Biden turned the military into a Gaystapo and Didn't Earn It lab, which is why recruitment collapsed. Recruitment already has taken off. I guess we can agree to disagree - I like having a SECDEF that energizes the soldiers as opposed to one that energizes the Military-Industrial complex.

No it does not concern me. How many years did you serve? How many tours did you serve - was it in Afghanistan or Iraq?

---

Yes, I served.

---

Thanks for your service

---

You are welcome.

That I or anyone else served does not make their opinions more valid when it comes to our Government. People serve our Nation in different ways. Any citizen has just as much right to an opinion and vote as any other. I am sick of hearing that some Navy SEAL has a more valid say than a Navy cook or tech. They all serve a role. Do your job, whatever it is, that is all that counts. We all have different skill sets. Hegwath does not believe that based on his comments, that is why I can't get behind him. He thinks his opinion is more valid.

What I saw in the 82nd. A JAG officer that serves in the 82nd for 20 years has more credibility than ANY National Guard officer, period. But, that is irrelevant to whether he is qualified.

---

A. IMO those who spend time overseas on any deployment possess more valid viewpoints.
B. IMO those who saw combat possess even more valuable and insightful opinions.
C. IMO reserve officers were no better or worse than ring knockers It all came down to the individual.
D. Did not realize you were in the 82nd. Well done.

---

2 years. Dumb, only care about getting drunk and laid (which was next to impossible in Fayetteville, 20,000 guys and 6 women) PFC... Like every other PFC. : ). Funny, you miss those days at 60 and hated them at 22.

---

At 69 you hate the waste of lives.

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Very nice

KaiBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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KaiBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Assassin said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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4th and Inches said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Since Mr. Hegseth’s nomination last November, I have met with him and carefully reviewed his writings, various reports, and other pertinent materials. I closely followed his hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee and gathered substantial feedback from organizations,…

— Sen. Lisa Murkowski (@lisamurkowski) January 23, 2025

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thats 2, now we wait for the 3rd

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There is a reason the Military-Industrial Complex has drawn this line in the sand.

I wonder how much she's getting paid by defense contractors.

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This is not about that. He said he was modernizing, that means cash cow for contractors. Anyone coming in will support modernization and an increase in military spending.

This is personal, he said things in his hearing that might be overlooked in a Platoon meeting by a Junior Officer or E5 that is not what you want SecDef saying. Especially his contempt for the law (JAG corps) and admitting to ignoring rules of engagement That sounds good in movies, but in real.life a good way to be prosecuted for war crimes. This is SecDef we are talking about.

In addition to the personal life issues that may be overlooked in an elected official but not SecDef or law enforcement agency.

He would be fine as Press Secretary but not SecDef.

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You're welcome to your opinion. The issue is that the chief executive should have the ability to appoint whom he wants without the constant attempts to undermine democracy. We just came four four years of the most incompetent administration in history where the only qualifications was being blek or mentally ill.

Lloyd Austin is a buffoon who rode affirmative action to the top. He was so incompetent that he literally disappeared and no one noticed.

The Military-Industrial complex hates Hegseth for a reason ... to me that makes him a great choice.

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That is not correct, there is a reason that the Senate has to confirm. The system is set up to make sure that unqualified or high risk people don't get confirmed. Your method is what produced Austin. Austin should not have been in that position for several reasons, the same with Mattis. They were not far enough away from their active duty time. Civilian control of the military should be a non-negotiable. Hegswath has other issues that make him problematic in that role. Notice I said "in that role", not that he can't be in the Trump's White House.

You guys want to just re-write the Constitution based on what you want and who the President is. Checks and Balances have to stay in place. Biden was a disaster because of just what you say we should do with Trump.

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Incorrect.

If you would turn of The View and were basically informed, you would realize 90% of the questions asked by the Democrat morons have nothing to do with the job.

The fact that the Military Industrial complex is full force against Hegsepth gives him points with me.

You guys just want to kill democracy and have us ruled by the global elites. The fact an actual soldier might run the Pentagon makes you guys nuts. You'd rather have a mentally ill man in a dress or a Didn't Earn It.

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What questions were not about the job? That he doesn't listen to the Attorneys advising him? That the rules of engagement are fluid? That women shouldn't serve? Motherhood should disqualify someone?

He is being appointed. SECDEF and he answered like he was in a bar drinking beers with buddies. That doesn't concern you?

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You are misrepresenting what he said. Around rules of engagement, he was talking about men on the ground getting contradictory orders and confusion.

Turn off the View - he never said women should not serve. Do you just make this stuff up?

Actually listen to his words.

I appreciate having someone as SECDEF that has actually served and is more interested in winning wars that extreme culture war crap. Biden turned the military into a Gaystapo and Didn't Earn It lab, which is why recruitment collapsed. Recruitment already has taken off. I guess we can agree to disagree - I like having a SECDEF that energizes the soldiers as opposed to one that energizes the Military-Industrial complex.

No it does not concern me. How many years did you serve? How many tours did you serve - was it in Afghanistan or Iraq?

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Yes, I served.

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Thanks for your service

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You are welcome.

That I or anyone else served does not make their opinions more valid when it comes to our Government. People serve our Nation in different ways. Any citizen has just as much right to an opinion and vote as any other. I am sick of hearing that some Navy SEAL has a more valid say than a Navy cook or tech. They all serve a role. Do your job, whatever it is, that is all that counts. We all have different skill sets. Hegwath does not believe that based on his comments, that is why I can't get behind him. He thinks his opinion is more valid.

What I saw in the 82nd. A JAG officer that serves in the 82nd for 20 years has more credibility than ANY National Guard officer, period. But, that is irrelevant to whether he is qualified.

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A. IMO those who spend time overseas on any deployment possess more valid viewpoints.
B. IMO those who saw combat possess even more valuable and insightful opinions.
C. IMO reserve officers were no better or worse than ring knockers It all came down to the individual.
D. Did not realize you were in the 82nd. Well done.

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2 years. Dumb, only care about getting drunk and laid (which was next to impossible in Fayetteville, 20,000 guys and 6 women) PFC... Like every other PFC. : ). Funny, you miss those days at 60 and hated them at 22.

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At 69 you hate the waste of lives.

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I was between Viet Nam and Afghanistan. Desert Storm was done right. So I didn't experience that.

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boognish_bear said:

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Since Mr. Hegseth’s nomination last November, I have met with him and carefully reviewed his writings, various reports, and other pertinent materials. I closely followed his hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee and gathered substantial feedback from organizations,…

— Sen. Lisa Murkowski (@lisamurkowski) January 23, 2025

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thats 2, now we wait for the 3rd

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There is a reason the Military-Industrial Complex has drawn this line in the sand.

I wonder how much she's getting paid by defense contractors.

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This is not about that. He said he was modernizing, that means cash cow for contractors. Anyone coming in will support modernization and an increase in military spending.

This is personal, he said things in his hearing that might be overlooked in a Platoon meeting by a Junior Officer or E5 that is not what you want SecDef saying. Especially his contempt for the law (JAG corps) and admitting to ignoring rules of engagement That sounds good in movies, but in real.life a good way to be prosecuted for war crimes. This is SecDef we are talking about.

In addition to the personal life issues that may be overlooked in an elected official but not SecDef or law enforcement agency.

He would be fine as Press Secretary but not SecDef.

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You're welcome to your opinion. The issue is that the chief executive should have the ability to appoint whom he wants without the constant attempts to undermine democracy. We just came four four years of the most incompetent administration in history where the only qualifications was being blek or mentally ill.

Lloyd Austin is a buffoon who rode affirmative action to the top. He was so incompetent that he literally disappeared and no one noticed.

The Military-Industrial complex hates Hegseth for a reason ... to me that makes him a great choice.

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That is not correct, there is a reason that the Senate has to confirm. The system is set up to make sure that unqualified or high risk people don't get confirmed. Your method is what produced Austin. Austin should not have been in that position for several reasons, the same with Mattis. They were not far enough away from their active duty time. Civilian control of the military should be a non-negotiable. Hegswath has other issues that make him problematic in that role. Notice I said "in that role", not that he can't be in the Trump's White House.

You guys want to just re-write the Constitution based on what you want and who the President is. Checks and Balances have to stay in place. Biden was a disaster because of just what you say we should do with Trump.

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Incorrect.

If you would turn of The View and were basically informed, you would realize 90% of the questions asked by the Democrat morons have nothing to do with the job.

The fact that the Military Industrial complex is full force against Hegsepth gives him points with me.

You guys just want to kill democracy and have us ruled by the global elites. The fact an actual soldier might run the Pentagon makes you guys nuts. You'd rather have a mentally ill man in a dress or a Didn't Earn It.

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What questions were not about the job? That he doesn't listen to the Attorneys advising him? That the rules of engagement are fluid? That women shouldn't serve? Motherhood should disqualify someone?

He is being appointed. SECDEF and he answered like he was in a bar drinking beers with buddies. That doesn't concern you?

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You are misrepresenting what he said. Around rules of engagement, he was talking about men on the ground getting contradictory orders and confusion.

Turn off the View - he never said women should not serve. Do you just make this stuff up?

Actually listen to his words.

I appreciate having someone as SECDEF that has actually served and is more interested in winning wars that extreme culture war crap. Biden turned the military into a Gaystapo and Didn't Earn It lab, which is why recruitment collapsed. Recruitment already has taken off. I guess we can agree to disagree - I like having a SECDEF that energizes the soldiers as opposed to one that energizes the Military-Industrial complex.

No it does not concern me. How many years did you serve? How many tours did you serve - was it in Afghanistan or Iraq?

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Yes, I served.

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Thanks for your service

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You are welcome.

That I or anyone else served does not make their opinions more valid when it comes to our Government. People serve our Nation in different ways. Any citizen has just as much right to an opinion and vote as any other. I am sick of hearing that some Navy SEAL has a more valid say than a Navy cook or tech. They all serve a role. Do your job, whatever it is, that is all that counts. We all have different skill sets. Hegwath does not believe that based on his comments, that is why I can't get behind him. He thinks his opinion is more valid.

What I saw in the 82nd. A JAG officer that serves in the 82nd for 20 years has more credibility than ANY National Guard officer, period. But, that is irrelevant to whether he is qualified.

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A. IMO those who spend time overseas on any deployment possess more valid viewpoints.
B. IMO those who saw combat possess even more valuable and insightful opinions.
C. IMO reserve officers were no better or worse than ring knockers It all came down to the individual.
D. Did not realize you were in the 82nd. Well done.

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2 years. Dumb, only care about getting drunk and laid (which was next to impossible in Fayetteville, 20,000 guys and 6 women) PFC... Like every other PFC. : ). Funny, you miss those days at 60 and hated them at 22.

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At 69 you hate the waste of lives.

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I was between Viet Nam and Afghanistan. Desert Storm was done right. So I didn't experience that.

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Desert Dtorm was done right unless you lost an arm or leg or had shrapnel throughout your abdomen.

Then you go home to recover and find out absolutely no one outside of your unit and ( maybe ) your family gives a flying *****

That's one thing I love about Trump…….he isn't interested in playing Rambo with other peoples blood.