That's a perfect summary. The people were tiered of living under fascists that launched authoritarian control and exempted their friends and themselves as well as the double standard of justice.Wangchung said:
It wasn't just about the stolen election. America watched Democrats incite, cheer on and outright fund 8 months of violent, deadly BLM riots with zero consequences. Rioters were given space to destroy, bailed out by politicians like Kamala and people who defended themselves were prosecuted by leftist DAs. Covid restrictions were flouted and ignored en masse while law abiding citizens lost work and were kept from seeing loved ones in nursing homes and hospitals. It was not just the stolen election, not by a long shot.
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Chuckroast said:FLBear5630 said:No. But there has to be some process where both sides get to address the evidence and a judgement is reached. It can't just be one side saying this or that, for both sides. Where else but the courts does that happen in the arena we are talking? It is not like a scientific experiment or data analysis.Married A Horn said:FLBear5630 said:If that is proven, yes. If it goes down like Watergate, where people go to jail because it is proven in a court of law? Of course! Then it would beat Watergate. No question.Chuckroast said:FLBear5630 said:The key phrase is State Level. I agree at the State level it would be less. But, it wasn't. It was Congress and a National General Election. How can ANY Nation not come down hard on that? Did they think the Federal Government was going to just say, "OK, slap on the wrist. Disrupt our Presidential elections any time?" To quote a great line from Tulsa King - "What are you a child? What did you think was going to happen?"4th and Inches said:and many of them spent years in jail for it. Most of what happened that day would be less than 5 years at the state level. They were way over prosecuted, judicial review proved thatFLBear5630 said:cowboycwr said:Porteroso said:Yogi said:
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.
A real insurrection involves guns.
I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.
Insurrection is simply the takeover of a government. These people made our elected leaders hide in safe rooms or flee underground while they were trying to peacefully transfer power. Many assaulted police officers. I don't normally care if politicians get a little roughed up, but had they actually caught Pelosi we all know she would he dead right now. Pence too. They were recording themselves talking about it.
Lol. Not true at all.
Unarmed people were not about to kill anyone or take over the government.
Don't downplay J6 as some non-event. It may have not been an insurrection, but it was a travesty. It was not a bunch of tourist going down the wrong hall by accident like you guys pretend. It was a bunch of fringe right lunatics that were trying to stop the certification of an election. They forced Congress to abandon the Chamber and delay certification. That is illegal and deserves prosecution
They tried to stop, delay or change the Certification of an election. What did they think was going to happen??? If the plan all along was pardon, then Trump hung them out for four years. If they thought it would be ignored, which I have no idea how anyone in their right mind thinks J6 on National TV would be ignored is beyond me.
Honest question - would it change your opinion of J6 if there was proof that Pelosi and the administration deliberately denied security, planted props such as the fake pipe bombs, and planted FBI informants to instigate the crowd in hopes that things would get out of hand and they could use an insurrection narrative against Trump and his supporters? If not, then I think we're simply at an impasse. I cannot support a government or political party like that.
For what it's worth, it has been proven in court that the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping case involved entrapment by the government. J6 seems to have been entrapment on steroids. I'm hoping we will be able to get to the bottom of it.
Flbear: 'its only worse when the government says its worse'
I agree that one side saying something doesn't make it true. But we were able to see lots of evidence and statistical anomalies that cast doubt on the integrity of the 2020 election..
There were scores of affidavits from election workers across the country sworn under the penalty of perjury (criminal liability) that simply went disregarded. These affidavits reported all sorts of election irregularities… Votes, arriving overnight with no chain of custody, etc. ballots that had no crease in them… Meaning that they weren't ever mailed. To top it off, we were told to accept that even though Biden won far fewer counties nationwide than Obama did, he somehow received 15 million more votes than Obama. It simply didn't add up. There was no way for it all to be investigated in the short time that the electoral votes had to be certified, and once they were certified, there was no will on the side of the Democrats to investigate. Not only that, the Democrats accused anyone wanting to investigate these alleged irregularities of being election deniers, of obstructing the law, and even being insurrectionists.
If the Democrats refuse to indict or even investigate potential election fraud, then how can the courts weigh in?
Does the truth of a matter depend on a conviction in court? Did you believe OJ was innocent? Reasonable and intelligent people can look at all of the facts and conclude that the 2020 election was not on the up and up. In the meantime, we were being gaslit that it was the most secure election ever.
Leading up to the 2024 election, absentee voting was made more secure by the courts in many states over the objections of Democrats, and voila, the Democrats received 20 million fewer votes than in 2020. Nothing to see there for some people I guess. To many fair minded people, it was even more validation that the 2020 election was ridden with fraud.
Well in his second term, let's see if Trump changes that.
ah... that common sense that Trump speaks of, sorely lacking from the rank and file of the left as all they have heard is from MSMChuckroast said:FLBear5630 said:No. But there has to be some process where both sides get to address the evidence and a judgement is reached. It can't just be one side saying this or that, for both sides. Where else but the courts does that happen in the arena we are talking? It is not like a scientific experiment or data analysis.Married A Horn said:FLBear5630 said:If that is proven, yes. If it goes down like Watergate, where people go to jail because it is proven in a court of law? Of course! Then it would beat Watergate. No question.Chuckroast said:FLBear5630 said:The key phrase is State Level. I agree at the State level it would be less. But, it wasn't. It was Congress and a National General Election. How can ANY Nation not come down hard on that? Did they think the Federal Government was going to just say, "OK, slap on the wrist. Disrupt our Presidential elections any time?" To quote a great line from Tulsa King - "What are you a child? What did you think was going to happen?"4th and Inches said:and many of them spent years in jail for it. Most of what happened that day would be less than 5 years at the state level. They were way over prosecuted, judicial review proved thatFLBear5630 said:cowboycwr said:Porteroso said:Yogi said:
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.
A real insurrection involves guns.
I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.
Insurrection is simply the takeover of a government. These people made our elected leaders hide in safe rooms or flee underground while they were trying to peacefully transfer power. Many assaulted police officers. I don't normally care if politicians get a little roughed up, but had they actually caught Pelosi we all know she would he dead right now. Pence too. They were recording themselves talking about it.
Lol. Not true at all.
Unarmed people were not about to kill anyone or take over the government.
Don't downplay J6 as some non-event. It may have not been an insurrection, but it was a travesty. It was not a bunch of tourist going down the wrong hall by accident like you guys pretend. It was a bunch of fringe right lunatics that were trying to stop the certification of an election. They forced Congress to abandon the Chamber and delay certification. That is illegal and deserves prosecution
They tried to stop, delay or change the Certification of an election. What did they think was going to happen??? If the plan all along was pardon, then Trump hung them out for four years. If they thought it would be ignored, which I have no idea how anyone in their right mind thinks J6 on National TV would be ignored is beyond me.
Honest question - would it change your opinion of J6 if there was proof that Pelosi and the administration deliberately denied security, planted props such as the fake pipe bombs, and planted FBI informants to instigate the crowd in hopes that things would get out of hand and they could use an insurrection narrative against Trump and his supporters? If not, then I think we're simply at an impasse. I cannot support a government or political party like that.
For what it's worth, it has been proven in court that the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping case involved entrapment by the government. J6 seems to have been entrapment on steroids. I'm hoping we will be able to get to the bottom of it.
Flbear: 'its only worse when the government says its worse'
I agree that one side saying something doesn't make it true. But we were able to see lots of evidence and statistical anomalies that cast doubt on the integrity of the 2020 election..
There were scores of affidavits from election workers across the country sworn under the penalty of perjury (criminal liability) that simply went disregarded. These affidavits reported all sorts of election irregularities… Votes, arriving overnight with no chain of custody, etc. ballots that had no crease in them… Meaning that they weren't ever mailed. To top it off, we were told to accept that even though Biden won far fewer counties nationwide than Obama did, he somehow received 15 million more votes than Obama. It simply didn't add up. There was no way for it all to be investigated in the short time that the electoral votes had to be certified, and once they were certified, there was no will on the side of the Democrats to investigate. Not only that, the Democrats accused anyone wanting to investigate these alleged irregularities of being election deniers, of obstructing the law, and even being insurrectionists.
If the Democrats refuse to indict or even investigate potential election fraud, then how can the courts weigh in?
Does the truth of a matter depend on a conviction in court? Did you believe OJ was innocent? Reasonable and intelligent people can look at all of the facts and conclude that the 2020 election was not on the up and up. In the meantime, we were being gaslit that it was the most secure election ever.
Leading up to the 2024 election, absentee voting was made more secure by the courts in many states over the objections of Democrats, and voila, the Democrats received 20 million fewer votes than in 2020. Nothing to see there for some people I guess. To many fair minded people, it was even more validation that the 2020 election was ridden with fraud.
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FLBear5630 said:No. But there has to be some process where both sides get to address the evidence and a judgement is reached. It can't just be one side saying this or that, for both sides. Where else but the courts does that happen in the arena we are talking? It is not like a scientific experiment or data analysis.Married A Horn said:FLBear5630 said:If that is proven, yes. If it goes down like Watergate, where people go to jail because it is proven in a court of law? Of course! Then it would beat Watergate. No question.Chuckroast said:FLBear5630 said:The key phrase is State Level. I agree at the State level it would be less. But, it wasn't. It was Congress and a National General Election. How can ANY Nation not come down hard on that? Did they think the Federal Government was going to just say, "OK, slap on the wrist. Disrupt our Presidential elections any time?" To quote a great line from Tulsa King - "What are you a child? What did you think was going to happen?"4th and Inches said:and many of them spent years in jail for it. Most of what happened that day would be less than 5 years at the state level. They were way over prosecuted, judicial review proved thatFLBear5630 said:cowboycwr said:Porteroso said:Yogi said:
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.
A real insurrection involves guns.
I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.
Insurrection is simply the takeover of a government. These people made our elected leaders hide in safe rooms or flee underground while they were trying to peacefully transfer power. Many assaulted police officers. I don't normally care if politicians get a little roughed up, but had they actually caught Pelosi we all know she would he dead right now. Pence too. They were recording themselves talking about it.
Lol. Not true at all.
Unarmed people were not about to kill anyone or take over the government.
Don't downplay J6 as some non-event. It may have not been an insurrection, but it was a travesty. It was not a bunch of tourist going down the wrong hall by accident like you guys pretend. It was a bunch of fringe right lunatics that were trying to stop the certification of an election. They forced Congress to abandon the Chamber and delay certification. That is illegal and deserves prosecution
They tried to stop, delay or change the Certification of an election. What did they think was going to happen??? If the plan all along was pardon, then Trump hung them out for four years. If they thought it would be ignored, which I have no idea how anyone in their right mind thinks J6 on National TV would be ignored is beyond me.
Honest question - would it change your opinion of J6 if there was proof that Pelosi and the administration deliberately denied security, planted props such as the fake pipe bombs, and planted FBI informants to instigate the crowd in hopes that things would get out of hand and they could use an insurrection narrative against Trump and his supporters? If not, then I think we're simply at an impasse. I cannot support a government or political party like that.
For what it's worth, it has been proven in court that the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping case involved entrapment by the government. J6 seems to have been entrapment on steroids. I'm hoping we will be able to get to the bottom of it.
Flbear: 'its only worse when the government says its worse'
Kinda hard to do with Biden's doj and pardons. So the voters had to render the verdict at the ballott box.
Porteroso said:Married A Horn said:Porteroso said:Married A Horn said:Porteroso said:Married A Horn said:Porteroso said:KaiBear said:Porteroso said:historian said:
Not really. Most of them were peacefully protesting a stolen election. Federal agents were able to escalate it into something else & a Capitol police officer murdered one person in cold blood (& was pardoned by Joe Biden). Without FBI, CIA, & Capitol Police instigators there might not have been any violence at all. We will never know. We also may never know the full extant of the real crimes because the J6 committee spent most of their time covers it up, destroying evidence, & building a false narrative which the fascist press has been repeating ever since.
Congress was in session. Trespassing is the first crime they committed. Many were calling for death and vigilante justice, another crime. Congress was in session to peacefully transfer power from one elected official to the next, and they were wanting to stop it. Many said so out loud on recordings. Another crime.
These are criminals, not peaceful protesters. Congress is protested every day, and breaching the Capitol is never a part of it.
Yes
Grandmothers and grandfathers deserved 2-5 months of solitary confinement for trespassing .
Ask your parents to provide you a bloody clue.
Criminals sometimes get punished. Republicans used to understand that. Rules for thee, but not for me, your new motto?
Address Biden's 1000s of pardons that even your side has condemned. You have no respect from anyone... probably not even yourself.
Most corrupt justice department ever under Biden.
Yeah, I did though. Biden's were bad, but had Trump at least not pardoned the violent insurrectionists, Republicans would have a clear advantage after Biden's dementia addled pardons. Both sides did the same basic thing though. Sad for anyone interested in the rule of law, which neither face of the unitary is.
Sorry dude... Fauci funding gain of function and partnering up with big pharma to kill 100s of 1000s is way worse. Biden had every sort of hard criminal pardoned... murder included. And those are the least it's significant of the group. All of his crime family and influence peddling is a million times worse.
Yeah, its not close. Ray Epps and Nancy Pelosi were behind making sure things got out of hand. The panel destroyed evidence - lied and covered up.
4 years of solitary and lack of trials and all the other stuff thrown at the j6ers is plenty.
'Rules for thee but not for me' - Porto
This is the re Red Brick was talking about. But whaaaa the other side!!!
Simply taking what I say and reposting it as if you thought of it must be one of the lowest effort posts I've ever seen.
Oh wow. You really dont like these points being brought up.
It is just speculation, and by the way, nobody forced all these people to assault police.
There is a middle ground, where we recognize that these are criminals, but that most don't really deserve more than a slap on the wrist. Some assaulted cops, others walked into open doors with no barrier to entry. There is that middle ground, but instead the conservative zealots want to pretend it was 100% the government's fault, and the lib zealots act like it was the most dangerous insurrection the country has ever seen.
I am inclined to agree more with the lib take, because members of Congress might have died had they still been there. Who knows. But they weren't, so the attempt was laughable, except for the cops with heart attacks and Ms. Babbitt who died.
You seem hung up on the assault when that was a handful of the people. There were only a few people that assaulted a few officers. Not 1,500 people doing it.
Gonna be interesting to find out how many of those instigators were FBI CI's and/or ANTIFAcowboycwr said:You seem hung up on the assault when that was a handful of the people. There were only a few people that assaulted a few officers. Not 1,500 people doing it.Porteroso said:Married A Horn said:Porteroso said:Married A Horn said:Porteroso said:Married A Horn said:Porteroso said:KaiBear said:Porteroso said:historian said:
Not really. Most of them were peacefully protesting a stolen election. Federal agents were able to escalate it into something else & a Capitol police officer murdered one person in cold blood (& was pardoned by Joe Biden). Without FBI, CIA, & Capitol Police instigators there might not have been any violence at all. We will never know. We also may never know the full extant of the real crimes because the J6 committee spent most of their time covers it up, destroying evidence, & building a false narrative which the fascist press has been repeating ever since.
Congress was in session. Trespassing is the first crime they committed. Many were calling for death and vigilante justice, another crime. Congress was in session to peacefully transfer power from one elected official to the next, and they were wanting to stop it. Many said so out loud on recordings. Another crime.
These are criminals, not peaceful protesters. Congress is protested every day, and breaching the Capitol is never a part of it.
Yes
Grandmothers and grandfathers deserved 2-5 months of solitary confinement for trespassing .
Ask your parents to provide you a bloody clue.
Criminals sometimes get punished. Republicans used to understand that. Rules for thee, but not for me, your new motto?
Address Biden's 1000s of pardons that even your side has condemned. You have no respect from anyone... probably not even yourself.
Most corrupt justice department ever under Biden.
Yeah, I did though. Biden's were bad, but had Trump at least not pardoned the violent insurrectionists, Republicans would have a clear advantage after Biden's dementia addled pardons. Both sides did the same basic thing though. Sad for anyone interested in the rule of law, which neither face of the unitary is.
Sorry dude... Fauci funding gain of function and partnering up with big pharma to kill 100s of 1000s is way worse. Biden had every sort of hard criminal pardoned... murder included. And those are the least it's significant of the group. All of his crime family and influence peddling is a million times worse.
Yeah, its not close. Ray Epps and Nancy Pelosi were behind making sure things got out of hand. The panel destroyed evidence - lied and covered up.
4 years of solitary and lack of trials and all the other stuff thrown at the j6ers is plenty.
'Rules for thee but not for me' - Porto
This is the re Red Brick was talking about. But whaaaa the other side!!!
Simply taking what I say and reposting it as if you thought of it must be one of the lowest effort posts I've ever seen.
Oh wow. You really dont like these points being brought up.
It is just speculation, and by the way, nobody forced all these people to assault police.
There is a middle ground, where we recognize that these are criminals, but that most don't really deserve more than a slap on the wrist. Some assaulted cops, others walked into open doors with no barrier to entry. There is that middle ground, but instead the conservative zealots want to pretend it was 100% the government's fault, and the lib zealots act like it was the most dangerous insurrection the country has ever seen.
I am inclined to agree more with the lib take, because members of Congress might have died had they still been there. Who knows. But they weren't, so the attempt was laughable, except for the cops with heart attacks and Ms. Babbitt who died.
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J.R. said:Doktor History...Don't know if you are a fledgling history teacher or what, but you prolly need to look up the term "Fascist". You use the term indiscriminately in most every post ,, slapping it upon anyone you disagree. I highly suggest you look up the definition of and use it properly.historian said:Yogi said:
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.
A real insurrection involves guns.
I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.
No doubt there are lots of truths about J6 2020 that the fascists don't want us to know. That's why the fraudulent J6 committee focused all their efforts on covering up the truth and constructing that false narrative. It's also why they suppressed evidence pointing to any other conclusion. If we were to learn the truth then there would be prosecutions of criminals like Adam Schiff, Liz Cheney, Adam Kissinger. Oh wait, Joe pardoned these real reprobates to forestall those prosecutions. In the context of Joe's criminal behavior for decades, the pardons are huge flashing neon lights screaming, "GUILTY".
Actually I know quite a bit about the true meaning of "fascist" and make a point to use it accurately. Most people really have no idea what it means just like they know little about history, economics, the US constitution, & much more.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Psalm 119:36
historian said:J.R. said:Doktor History...Don't know if you are a fledgling history teacher or what, but you prolly need to look up the term "Fascist". You use the term indiscriminately in most every post ,, slapping it upon anyone you disagree. I highly suggest you look up the definition of and use it properly.historian said:Yogi said:
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.
A real insurrection involves guns.
I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.
No doubt there are lots of truths about J6 2020 that the fascists don't want us to know. That's why the fraudulent J6 committee focused all their efforts on covering up the truth and constructing that false narrative. It's also why they suppressed evidence pointing to any other conclusion. If we were to learn the truth then there would be prosecutions of criminals like Adam Schiff, Liz Cheney, Adam Kissinger. Oh wait, Joe pardoned these real reprobates to forestall those prosecutions. In the context of Joe's criminal behavior for decades, the pardons are huge flashing neon lights screaming, "GUILTY".
Actually I know quite a bit about the true meaning of "fascist" and make a point to use it accurately. Most people really have no idea what it means just like they know little about history, economics, the US constitution, & much more.
So u r a fledgling history teacher?
ScottS said:historian said:ScottS said:
There was a capitol police officer that fatally shot a Jan 6er. Did Biden pardon that officer?
Yes he did.
Legalized murder.
Not legalized: not prosecuted and then pardoned by Joe.
same result
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Psalm 119:36
All you have to do is look at the Dem votes counts involingPorteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
The FBI was claiming it was the most secure election ever within hours of the election ... when it clearly wasn't the most secure election ever.
Never mind the 15+ million votes that just disappeared this election. Crazy I know.
What is crazy is people who clearly knew nothing about politics in 2020. Anyone with a brain knew Trump was going to inspire a historic turnout, both for and against him.
The idea that the libs were able to manufacture 15 million votes in one election, but not the next, is what is crazy. Don't tell me right wing conspiracy theorists keeping "a real close eye" on the polling stations did it.
Obama
Clinton
Biden
Harris
Out of nowhere Joe Biden got 15 million votes more than any of the others.
Before or since.
It just doesn't play.
Assassin said:For the moment. The lefties have some very underhanded ways of attacking conservatives.Chuckroast said:It was BLM/antifa rioting without consequence, COVID lockdowns, vaccine mandates, mandatory electric car executive orders, entrapment by federal officials in the Whitmer kidnapping and J6 incidents, Russia collusion hoax, election interference with respect to Hunter's laptop and lawfare against Trump, uninvestigated election fraud in the 2020 election, and the censorship of dissenting opinions on all of these matters through tech companies. The government had a heavy hand in all of this. Historian got scolded for using the term "fascist," but we have never seen our government act in such a corrupt, autocratic manner in our lifetimes. I'm still pinching myself that we were able to cast aside that government.Wangchung said:
It wasn't just about the stolen election. America watched Democrats incite, cheer on and outright fund 8 months of violent, deadly BLM riots with zero consequences. Rioters were given space to destroy, bailed out by politicians like Kamala and people who defended themselves were prosecuted by leftist DAs. Covid restrictions were flouted and ignored en masse while law abiding citizens lost work and were kept from seeing loved ones in nursing homes and hospitals. It was not just the stolen election, not by a long shot.
The Left has been using those fascist tactics for several years under both Obama (ie IRS abuses & assassin drones) & Biden, especially the latter. It's not only Trump & the J6ers who were targets: pro-lifers, parents who protested against boys allowed in girls restrooms in public schools (& raping them), anyone opposed to men competing in women's sports, people who opposed the open borders, etc. Essentially, the fascist administration targeted anyone they saw as a political enemy using extreme, illegal, & unconstitutional methods. They acted in the most fascist ways possible.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Psalm 119:36
J.R. said:historian said:J.R. said:Doktor History...Don't know if you are a fledgling history teacher or what, but you prolly need to look up the term "Fascist". You use the term indiscriminately in most every post ,, slapping it upon anyone you disagree. I highly suggest you look up the definition of and use it properly.historian said:Yogi said:
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.
A real insurrection involves guns.
I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.
No doubt there are lots of truths about J6 2020 that the fascists don't want us to know. That's why the fraudulent J6 committee focused all their efforts on covering up the truth and constructing that false narrative. It's also why they suppressed evidence pointing to any other conclusion. If we were to learn the truth then there would be prosecutions of criminals like Adam Schiff, Liz Cheney, Adam Kissinger. Oh wait, Joe pardoned these real reprobates to forestall those prosecutions. In the context of Joe's criminal behavior for decades, the pardons are huge flashing neon lights screaming, "GUILTY".
Actually I know quite a bit about the true meaning of "fascist" and make a point to use it accurately. Most people really have no idea what it means just like they know little about history, economics, the US constitution, & much more.
So u r a fledgling history teacher?
I taught history for 30+ years, mostly at the college level.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
Psalm 119:36
Track them all back to George Soros' One World Order. The most Evil Man in the World has been manipulating countries the world over. This was his greatest win, his banner trophy - until Trump got electedhistorian said:Assassin said:For the moment. The lefties have some very underhanded ways of attacking conservatives.Chuckroast said:It was BLM/antifa rioting without consequence, COVID lockdowns, vaccine mandates, mandatory electric car executive orders, entrapment by federal officials in the Whitmer kidnapping and J6 incidents, Russia collusion hoax, election interference with respect to Hunter's laptop and lawfare against Trump, uninvestigated election fraud in the 2020 election, and the censorship of dissenting opinions on all of these matters through tech companies. The government had a heavy hand in all of this. Historian got scolded for using the term "fascist," but we have never seen our government act in such a corrupt, autocratic manner in our lifetimes. I'm still pinching myself that we were able to cast aside that government.Wangchung said:
It wasn't just about the stolen election. America watched Democrats incite, cheer on and outright fund 8 months of violent, deadly BLM riots with zero consequences. Rioters were given space to destroy, bailed out by politicians like Kamala and people who defended themselves were prosecuted by leftist DAs. Covid restrictions were flouted and ignored en masse while law abiding citizens lost work and were kept from seeing loved ones in nursing homes and hospitals. It was not just the stolen election, not by a long shot.
The Left has been using those fascist tactics for several years under both Obama (ie IRS abuses & assassin drones) & Biden, especially the latter. It's not only Trump & the J6ers who were targets: pro-lifers, parents who protested against boys allowed in girls restrooms in public schools (& raping them), anyone opposed to men competing in women's sports, people who opposed the open borders, etc. Essentially, the fascist administration targeted anyone they saw as a political enemy using extreme, illegal, & unconstitutional methods. They acted in the most fascist ways possible.
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I have tremendous respect for educators, but maybe stay in your lane relative to business.historian said:J.R. said:historian said:J.R. said:Doktor History...Don't know if you are a fledgling history teacher or what, but you prolly need to look up the term "Fascist". You use the term indiscriminately in most every post ,, slapping it upon anyone you disagree. I highly suggest you look up the definition of and use it properly.historian said:Yogi said:
I'm surprised that the January 6th "insurrection" didn't involve more guns considering that Trump supporters are gun lovers.
A real insurrection involves guns.
I think the Democrats don't want anyone getting too close to the 2020 election because they might find the truth in the anomaly.
No doubt there are lots of truths about J6 2020 that the fascists don't want us to know. That's why the fraudulent J6 committee focused all their efforts on covering up the truth and constructing that false narrative. It's also why they suppressed evidence pointing to any other conclusion. If we were to learn the truth then there would be prosecutions of criminals like Adam Schiff, Liz Cheney, Adam Kissinger. Oh wait, Joe pardoned these real reprobates to forestall those prosecutions. In the context of Joe's criminal behavior for decades, the pardons are huge flashing neon lights screaming, "GUILTY".
Actually I know quite a bit about the true meaning of "fascist" and make a point to use it accurately. Most people really have no idea what it means just like they know little about history, economics, the US constitution, & much more.
So u r a fledgling history teacher?
I taught history for 30+ years, mostly at the college level.
oh, you mean the same Soros that your and Trumps new Treasury Secretary, Scott Bessent ran the Soros Fund for ole George? Oh, did I mention that he is openly gay and married to a man? Where is the homophobic outrage? But, I'm sure you are ok with that cuz Trumpy Bear told you to. Now, is that the same Soros? seems like we have a Treasury Sec who is working on the new world order? BTW, I think he is a really solid pick.Assassin said:Track them all back to George Soros' One World Order. The most Evil Man in the World has been manipulating countries the world over. This was his greatest win, his banner trophy - until Trump got electedhistorian said:Assassin said:For the moment. The lefties have some very underhanded ways of attacking conservatives.Chuckroast said:It was BLM/antifa rioting without consequence, COVID lockdowns, vaccine mandates, mandatory electric car executive orders, entrapment by federal officials in the Whitmer kidnapping and J6 incidents, Russia collusion hoax, election interference with respect to Hunter's laptop and lawfare against Trump, uninvestigated election fraud in the 2020 election, and the censorship of dissenting opinions on all of these matters through tech companies. The government had a heavy hand in all of this. Historian got scolded for using the term "fascist," but we have never seen our government act in such a corrupt, autocratic manner in our lifetimes. I'm still pinching myself that we were able to cast aside that government.Wangchung said:
It wasn't just about the stolen election. America watched Democrats incite, cheer on and outright fund 8 months of violent, deadly BLM riots with zero consequences. Rioters were given space to destroy, bailed out by politicians like Kamala and people who defended themselves were prosecuted by leftist DAs. Covid restrictions were flouted and ignored en masse while law abiding citizens lost work and were kept from seeing loved ones in nursing homes and hospitals. It was not just the stolen election, not by a long shot.
The Left has been using those fascist tactics for several years under both Obama (ie IRS abuses & assassin drones) & Biden, especially the latter. It's not only Trump & the J6ers who were targets: pro-lifers, parents who protested against boys allowed in girls restrooms in public schools (& raping them), anyone opposed to men competing in women's sports, people who opposed the open borders, etc. Essentially, the fascist administration targeted anyone they saw as a political enemy using extreme, illegal, & unconstitutional methods. They acted in the most fascist ways possible.
But Joe was such a super nice guyKaiBear said:All you have to do is look at the Dem votes counts involingPorteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
The FBI was claiming it was the most secure election ever within hours of the election ... when it clearly wasn't the most secure election ever.
Never mind the 15+ million votes that just disappeared this election. Crazy I know.
What is crazy is people who clearly knew nothing about politics in 2020. Anyone with a brain knew Trump was going to inspire a historic turnout, both for and against him.
The idea that the libs were able to manufacture 15 million votes in one election, but not the next, is what is crazy. Don't tell me right wing conspiracy theorists keeping "a real close eye" on the polling stations did it.
Obama
Clinton
Biden
Harris
Out of nowhere Joe Biden got 15 million votes more than any of the others.
Before or since.
It just doesn't play.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:If only there was a way to prove it. But as you know the vote counting took extra long, and the destruction of the votes went really quick.Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
The FBI was claiming it was the most secure election ever within hours of the election ... when it clearly wasn't the most secure election ever.
Never mind the 15+ million votes that just disappeared this election. Crazy I know.
What is crazy is people who clearly knew nothing about politics in 2020. Anyone with a brain knew Trump was going to inspire a historic turnout, both for and against him.
The idea that the libs were able to manufacture 15 million votes in one election, but not the next, is what is crazy. Don't tell me right wing conspiracy theorists keeping "a real close eye" on the polling stations did it.
Didn't it go faster than this year? Florida used to take forever and it wasn't due to fraud. We let people watch this by the way, and the people counting are normally bipartisan. No matter how you slice it there is just no reason to claim 2020 was fraud. The evidence is just not there. Except of course your guy lost.
Still believing that 20 million voters magically appeared, eh?Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:If only there was a way to prove it. But as you know the vote counting took extra long, and the destruction of the votes went really quick.Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
The FBI was claiming it was the most secure election ever within hours of the election ... when it clearly wasn't the most secure election ever.
Never mind the 15+ million votes that just disappeared this election. Crazy I know.
What is crazy is people who clearly knew nothing about politics in 2020. Anyone with a brain knew Trump was going to inspire a historic turnout, both for and against him.
The idea that the libs were able to manufacture 15 million votes in one election, but not the next, is what is crazy. Don't tell me right wing conspiracy theorists keeping "a real close eye" on the polling stations did it.
Didn't it go faster than this year? Florida used to take forever and it wasn't due to fraud. We let people watch this by the way, and the people counting are normally bipartisan. No matter how you slice it there is just no reason to claim 2020 was fraud. The evidence is just not there. Except of course your guy lost.
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J.R. said:oh, you mean the same Soros that your and Trumps new Treasury Secretary, Scott Bessent ran the Soros Fund for ole George? Oh, did I mention that he is openly gay and married to a man? Where is the homophobic outrage? But, I'm sure you are ok with that cuz Trumpy Bear told you to. Now, is that the same Soros? seems like we have a Treasury Sec who is working on the new world order? BTW, I think he is a really solid pick.Assassin said:Track them all back to George Soros' One World Order. The most Evil Man in the World has been manipulating countries the world over. This was his greatest win, his banner trophy - until Trump got electedhistorian said:Assassin said:For the moment. The lefties have some very underhanded ways of attacking conservatives.Chuckroast said:It was BLM/antifa rioting without consequence, COVID lockdowns, vaccine mandates, mandatory electric car executive orders, entrapment by federal officials in the Whitmer kidnapping and J6 incidents, Russia collusion hoax, election interference with respect to Hunter's laptop and lawfare against Trump, uninvestigated election fraud in the 2020 election, and the censorship of dissenting opinions on all of these matters through tech companies. The government had a heavy hand in all of this. Historian got scolded for using the term "fascist," but we have never seen our government act in such a corrupt, autocratic manner in our lifetimes. I'm still pinching myself that we were able to cast aside that government.Wangchung said:
It wasn't just about the stolen election. America watched Democrats incite, cheer on and outright fund 8 months of violent, deadly BLM riots with zero consequences. Rioters were given space to destroy, bailed out by politicians like Kamala and people who defended themselves were prosecuted by leftist DAs. Covid restrictions were flouted and ignored en masse while law abiding citizens lost work and were kept from seeing loved ones in nursing homes and hospitals. It was not just the stolen election, not by a long shot.
The Left has been using those fascist tactics for several years under both Obama (ie IRS abuses & assassin drones) & Biden, especially the latter. It's not only Trump & the J6ers who were targets: pro-lifers, parents who protested against boys allowed in girls restrooms in public schools (& raping them), anyone opposed to men competing in women's sports, people who opposed the open borders, etc. Essentially, the fascist administration targeted anyone they saw as a political enemy using extreme, illegal, & unconstitutional methods. They acted in the most fascist ways possible.
Think you have it backwards.
If Trump is so horribly homophobic …..so full of hate for gays…….why would he appoint an openly gay man in one of the most important positions in his entire administration ?
JRs not especially sharp. You may have to explain furtherKaiBear said:Think you have it backwards.J.R. said:oh, you mean the same Soros that your and Trumps new Treasury Secretary, Scott Bessent ran the Soros Fund for ole George? Oh, did I mention that he is openly gay and married to a man? Where is the homophobic outrage? But, I'm sure you are ok with that cuz Trumpy Bear told you to. Now, is that the same Soros? seems like we have a Treasury Sec who is working on the new world order? BTW, I think he is a really solid pick.Assassin said:Track them all back to George Soros' One World Order. The most Evil Man in the World has been manipulating countries the world over. This was his greatest win, his banner trophy - until Trump got electedhistorian said:Assassin said:For the moment. The lefties have some very underhanded ways of attacking conservatives.Chuckroast said:It was BLM/antifa rioting without consequence, COVID lockdowns, vaccine mandates, mandatory electric car executive orders, entrapment by federal officials in the Whitmer kidnapping and J6 incidents, Russia collusion hoax, election interference with respect to Hunter's laptop and lawfare against Trump, uninvestigated election fraud in the 2020 election, and the censorship of dissenting opinions on all of these matters through tech companies. The government had a heavy hand in all of this. Historian got scolded for using the term "fascist," but we have never seen our government act in such a corrupt, autocratic manner in our lifetimes. I'm still pinching myself that we were able to cast aside that government.Wangchung said:
It wasn't just about the stolen election. America watched Democrats incite, cheer on and outright fund 8 months of violent, deadly BLM riots with zero consequences. Rioters were given space to destroy, bailed out by politicians like Kamala and people who defended themselves were prosecuted by leftist DAs. Covid restrictions were flouted and ignored en masse while law abiding citizens lost work and were kept from seeing loved ones in nursing homes and hospitals. It was not just the stolen election, not by a long shot.
The Left has been using those fascist tactics for several years under both Obama (ie IRS abuses & assassin drones) & Biden, especially the latter. It's not only Trump & the J6ers who were targets: pro-lifers, parents who protested against boys allowed in girls restrooms in public schools (& raping them), anyone opposed to men competing in women's sports, people who opposed the open borders, etc. Essentially, the fascist administration targeted anyone they saw as a political enemy using extreme, illegal, & unconstitutional methods. They acted in the most fascist ways possible.
If Trump is so horribly homophobic …..so full of hate for gays…….why would he appoint an openly gay man in one of the most important positions in his entire administration ?
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Assassin said:JRs not especially sharp. You may have to explain furtherKaiBear said:Think you have it backwards.J.R. said:oh, you mean the same Soros that your and Trumps new Treasury Secretary, Scott Bessent ran the Soros Fund for ole George? Oh, did I mention that he is openly gay and married to a man? Where is the homophobic outrage? But, I'm sure you are ok with that cuz Trumpy Bear told you to. Now, is that the same Soros? seems like we have a Treasury Sec who is working on the new world order? BTW, I think he is a really solid pick.Assassin said:Track them all back to George Soros' One World Order. The most Evil Man in the World has been manipulating countries the world over. This was his greatest win, his banner trophy - until Trump got electedhistorian said:Assassin said:For the moment. The lefties have some very underhanded ways of attacking conservatives.Chuckroast said:It was BLM/antifa rioting without consequence, COVID lockdowns, vaccine mandates, mandatory electric car executive orders, entrapment by federal officials in the Whitmer kidnapping and J6 incidents, Russia collusion hoax, election interference with respect to Hunter's laptop and lawfare against Trump, uninvestigated election fraud in the 2020 election, and the censorship of dissenting opinions on all of these matters through tech companies. The government had a heavy hand in all of this. Historian got scolded for using the term "fascist," but we have never seen our government act in such a corrupt, autocratic manner in our lifetimes. I'm still pinching myself that we were able to cast aside that government.Wangchung said:
It wasn't just about the stolen election. America watched Democrats incite, cheer on and outright fund 8 months of violent, deadly BLM riots with zero consequences. Rioters were given space to destroy, bailed out by politicians like Kamala and people who defended themselves were prosecuted by leftist DAs. Covid restrictions were flouted and ignored en masse while law abiding citizens lost work and were kept from seeing loved ones in nursing homes and hospitals. It was not just the stolen election, not by a long shot.
The Left has been using those fascist tactics for several years under both Obama (ie IRS abuses & assassin drones) & Biden, especially the latter. It's not only Trump & the J6ers who were targets: pro-lifers, parents who protested against boys allowed in girls restrooms in public schools (& raping them), anyone opposed to men competing in women's sports, people who opposed the open borders, etc. Essentially, the fascist administration targeted anyone they saw as a political enemy using extreme, illegal, & unconstitutional methods. They acted in the most fascist ways possible.
If Trump is so horribly homophobic …..so full of hate for gays…….why would he appoint an openly gay man in one of the most important positions in his entire administration ?
Suspect Jr is very sharp.
He just enjoys poking the bears.
J.R. said:oh, you mean the same Soros that your and Trumps new Treasury Secretary, Scott Bessent ran the Soros Fund for ole George? Oh, did I mention that he is openly gay and married to a man? Where is the homophobic outrage? But, I'm sure you are ok with that cuz Trumpy Bear told you to. Now, is that the same Soros? seems like we have a Treasury Sec who is working on the new world order? BTW, I think he is a really solid pick.Assassin said:Track them all back to George Soros' One World Order. The most Evil Man in the World has been manipulating countries the world over. This was his greatest win, his banner trophy - until Trump got electedhistorian said:Assassin said:For the moment. The lefties have some very underhanded ways of attacking conservatives.Chuckroast said:It was BLM/antifa rioting without consequence, COVID lockdowns, vaccine mandates, mandatory electric car executive orders, entrapment by federal officials in the Whitmer kidnapping and J6 incidents, Russia collusion hoax, election interference with respect to Hunter's laptop and lawfare against Trump, uninvestigated election fraud in the 2020 election, and the censorship of dissenting opinions on all of these matters through tech companies. The government had a heavy hand in all of this. Historian got scolded for using the term "fascist," but we have never seen our government act in such a corrupt, autocratic manner in our lifetimes. I'm still pinching myself that we were able to cast aside that government.Wangchung said:
It wasn't just about the stolen election. America watched Democrats incite, cheer on and outright fund 8 months of violent, deadly BLM riots with zero consequences. Rioters were given space to destroy, bailed out by politicians like Kamala and people who defended themselves were prosecuted by leftist DAs. Covid restrictions were flouted and ignored en masse while law abiding citizens lost work and were kept from seeing loved ones in nursing homes and hospitals. It was not just the stolen election, not by a long shot.
The Left has been using those fascist tactics for several years under both Obama (ie IRS abuses & assassin drones) & Biden, especially the latter. It's not only Trump & the J6ers who were targets: pro-lifers, parents who protested against boys allowed in girls restrooms in public schools (& raping them), anyone opposed to men competing in women's sports, people who opposed the open borders, etc. Essentially, the fascist administration targeted anyone they saw as a political enemy using extreme, illegal, & unconstitutional methods. They acted in the most fascist ways possible.
They don't seem to get that thee is a big incestual thing going on. Trump, Musk, Gabbard, JFK, Bessent all were Dems. Would still be if the winds blew that way, including Trump. This is not about the ideology they do love to talk about and getting the US back to the sterling level the Founding Fathers created. It is about making the top money and power. GOP was an easier paths to make that happen. Simple as that. Hell if Bloomberg wasn't a Dem with a stronger following in 2015, I suspect Trump would have gone that way. Whatever rings the cash register. Did you get the new Presidential sneakers or Champaign?
Assassin said:Still believing that 20 million voters magically appeared, eh?Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:If only there was a way to prove it. But as you know the vote counting took extra long, and the destruction of the votes went really quick.Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
The FBI was claiming it was the most secure election ever within hours of the election ... when it clearly wasn't the most secure election ever.
Never mind the 15+ million votes that just disappeared this election. Crazy I know.
What is crazy is people who clearly knew nothing about politics in 2020. Anyone with a brain knew Trump was going to inspire a historic turnout, both for and against him.
The idea that the libs were able to manufacture 15 million votes in one election, but not the next, is what is crazy. Don't tell me right wing conspiracy theorists keeping "a real close eye" on the polling stations did it.
Didn't it go faster than this year? Florida used to take forever and it wasn't due to fraud. We let people watch this by the way, and the people counting are normally bipartisan. No matter how you slice it there is just no reason to claim 2020 was fraud. The evidence is just not there. Except of course your guy lost.
It's not a belief, it's a fact that more people turned out to vote than normal. Most of the country accepts it. It is just a fringe that can't accept that their dear leader lost fair and square.
FLBear5630 said:J.R. said:oh, you mean the same Soros that your and Trumps new Treasury Secretary, Scott Bessent ran the Soros Fund for ole George? Oh, did I mention that he is openly gay and married to a man? Where is the homophobic outrage? But, I'm sure you are ok with that cuz Trumpy Bear told you to. Now, is that the same Soros? seems like we have a Treasury Sec who is working on the new world order? BTW, I think he is a really solid pick.Assassin said:Track them all back to George Soros' One World Order. The most Evil Man in the World has been manipulating countries the world over. This was his greatest win, his banner trophy - until Trump got electedhistorian said:Assassin said:For the moment. The lefties have some very underhanded ways of attacking conservatives.Chuckroast said:It was BLM/antifa rioting without consequence, COVID lockdowns, vaccine mandates, mandatory electric car executive orders, entrapment by federal officials in the Whitmer kidnapping and J6 incidents, Russia collusion hoax, election interference with respect to Hunter's laptop and lawfare against Trump, uninvestigated election fraud in the 2020 election, and the censorship of dissenting opinions on all of these matters through tech companies. The government had a heavy hand in all of this. Historian got scolded for using the term "fascist," but we have never seen our government act in such a corrupt, autocratic manner in our lifetimes. I'm still pinching myself that we were able to cast aside that government.Wangchung said:
It wasn't just about the stolen election. America watched Democrats incite, cheer on and outright fund 8 months of violent, deadly BLM riots with zero consequences. Rioters were given space to destroy, bailed out by politicians like Kamala and people who defended themselves were prosecuted by leftist DAs. Covid restrictions were flouted and ignored en masse while law abiding citizens lost work and were kept from seeing loved ones in nursing homes and hospitals. It was not just the stolen election, not by a long shot.
The Left has been using those fascist tactics for several years under both Obama (ie IRS abuses & assassin drones) & Biden, especially the latter. It's not only Trump & the J6ers who were targets: pro-lifers, parents who protested against boys allowed in girls restrooms in public schools (& raping them), anyone opposed to men competing in women's sports, people who opposed the open borders, etc. Essentially, the fascist administration targeted anyone they saw as a political enemy using extreme, illegal, & unconstitutional methods. They acted in the most fascist ways possible.
They don't seem to get that thee is a big incestual thing going on. Trump, Musk, Gabbard, JFK, Bessent all were Dems. Would still be if the winds blew that way, including Trump. This is not about the ideology they do love to talk about and getting the US back to the sterling level the Founding Fathers created. It is about making the top money and power. GOP was an easier paths to make that happen. Simple as that. Hell if Bloomberg wasn't a Dem with a stronger following in 2015, I suspect Trump would have gone that way. Whatever rings the cash register. Did you get the new Presidential sneakers or Champaign?
Agree they were all dems. We know that. But they are doing a whole ton of anti-deepstate America 1st things. Their actions are limiting government and protecting our nation and people. Something neither dems or repubs have done the last 30 years.
Married A Horn said:FLBear5630 said:J.R. said:oh, you mean the same Soros that your and Trumps new Treasury Secretary, Scott Bessent ran the Soros Fund for ole George? Oh, did I mention that he is openly gay and married to a man? Where is the homophobic outrage? But, I'm sure you are ok with that cuz Trumpy Bear told you to. Now, is that the same Soros? seems like we have a Treasury Sec who is working on the new world order? BTW, I think he is a really solid pick.Assassin said:Track them all back to George Soros' One World Order. The most Evil Man in the World has been manipulating countries the world over. This was his greatest win, his banner trophy - until Trump got electedhistorian said:Assassin said:For the moment. The lefties have some very underhanded ways of attacking conservatives.Chuckroast said:It was BLM/antifa rioting without consequence, COVID lockdowns, vaccine mandates, mandatory electric car executive orders, entrapment by federal officials in the Whitmer kidnapping and J6 incidents, Russia collusion hoax, election interference with respect to Hunter's laptop and lawfare against Trump, uninvestigated election fraud in the 2020 election, and the censorship of dissenting opinions on all of these matters through tech companies. The government had a heavy hand in all of this. Historian got scolded for using the term "fascist," but we have never seen our government act in such a corrupt, autocratic manner in our lifetimes. I'm still pinching myself that we were able to cast aside that government.Wangchung said:
It wasn't just about the stolen election. America watched Democrats incite, cheer on and outright fund 8 months of violent, deadly BLM riots with zero consequences. Rioters were given space to destroy, bailed out by politicians like Kamala and people who defended themselves were prosecuted by leftist DAs. Covid restrictions were flouted and ignored en masse while law abiding citizens lost work and were kept from seeing loved ones in nursing homes and hospitals. It was not just the stolen election, not by a long shot.
The Left has been using those fascist tactics for several years under both Obama (ie IRS abuses & assassin drones) & Biden, especially the latter. It's not only Trump & the J6ers who were targets: pro-lifers, parents who protested against boys allowed in girls restrooms in public schools (& raping them), anyone opposed to men competing in women's sports, people who opposed the open borders, etc. Essentially, the fascist administration targeted anyone they saw as a political enemy using extreme, illegal, & unconstitutional methods. They acted in the most fascist ways possible.
They don't seem to get that thee is a big incestual thing going on. Trump, Musk, Gabbard, JFK, Bessent all were Dems. Would still be if the winds blew that way, including Trump. This is not about the ideology they do love to talk about and getting the US back to the sterling level the Founding Fathers created. It is about making the top money and power. GOP was an easier paths to make that happen. Simple as that. Hell if Bloomberg wasn't a Dem with a stronger following in 2015, I suspect Trump would have gone that way. Whatever rings the cash register. Did you get the new Presidential sneakers or Champaign?
Agree they were all dems. We know that. But they are doing a whole ton of anti-deepstate America 1st things. Their actions are limiting government and protecting our nation and people. Something neither dems or repubs have done the last 30 years.
Got that. But, can't paralyzed Nation either. Needs balance.
If that were true, Harris would be POTUS and we would drop into the Hell that the left was leading us intoPorteroso said:Assassin said:Still believing that 20 million voters magically appeared, eh?Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:If only there was a way to prove it. But as you know the vote counting took extra long, and the destruction of the votes went really quick.Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
The FBI was claiming it was the most secure election ever within hours of the election ... when it clearly wasn't the most secure election ever.
Never mind the 15+ million votes that just disappeared this election. Crazy I know.
What is crazy is people who clearly knew nothing about politics in 2020. Anyone with a brain knew Trump was going to inspire a historic turnout, both for and against him.
The idea that the libs were able to manufacture 15 million votes in one election, but not the next, is what is crazy. Don't tell me right wing conspiracy theorists keeping "a real close eye" on the polling stations did it.
Didn't it go faster than this year? Florida used to take forever and it wasn't due to fraud. We let people watch this by the way, and the people counting are normally bipartisan. No matter how you slice it there is just no reason to claim 2020 was fraud. The evidence is just not there. Except of course your guy lost.
It's not a belief, it's a fact that more people turned out to vote than normal. Most of the country accepts it. It is just a fringe that can't accept that their dear leader lost fair and square.
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Beat me to it. "Anti-Deepstate" is a perfect way tot up it.Married A Horn said:FLBear5630 said:J.R. said:oh, you mean the same Soros that your and Trumps new Treasury Secretary, Scott Bessent ran the Soros Fund for ole George? Oh, did I mention that he is openly gay and married to a man? Where is the homophobic outrage? But, I'm sure you are ok with that cuz Trumpy Bear told you to. Now, is that the same Soros? seems like we have a Treasury Sec who is working on the new world order? BTW, I think he is a really solid pick.Assassin said:Track them all back to George Soros' One World Order. The most Evil Man in the World has been manipulating countries the world over. This was his greatest win, his banner trophy - until Trump got electedhistorian said:Assassin said:For the moment. The lefties have some very underhanded ways of attacking conservatives.Chuckroast said:It was BLM/antifa rioting without consequence, COVID lockdowns, vaccine mandates, mandatory electric car executive orders, entrapment by federal officials in the Whitmer kidnapping and J6 incidents, Russia collusion hoax, election interference with respect to Hunter's laptop and lawfare against Trump, uninvestigated election fraud in the 2020 election, and the censorship of dissenting opinions on all of these matters through tech companies. The government had a heavy hand in all of this. Historian got scolded for using the term "fascist," but we have never seen our government act in such a corrupt, autocratic manner in our lifetimes. I'm still pinching myself that we were able to cast aside that government.Wangchung said:
It wasn't just about the stolen election. America watched Democrats incite, cheer on and outright fund 8 months of violent, deadly BLM riots with zero consequences. Rioters were given space to destroy, bailed out by politicians like Kamala and people who defended themselves were prosecuted by leftist DAs. Covid restrictions were flouted and ignored en masse while law abiding citizens lost work and were kept from seeing loved ones in nursing homes and hospitals. It was not just the stolen election, not by a long shot.
The Left has been using those fascist tactics for several years under both Obama (ie IRS abuses & assassin drones) & Biden, especially the latter. It's not only Trump & the J6ers who were targets: pro-lifers, parents who protested against boys allowed in girls restrooms in public schools (& raping them), anyone opposed to men competing in women's sports, people who opposed the open borders, etc. Essentially, the fascist administration targeted anyone they saw as a political enemy using extreme, illegal, & unconstitutional methods. They acted in the most fascist ways possible.
They don't seem to get that thee is a big incestual thing going on. Trump, Musk, Gabbard, JFK, Bessent all were Dems. Would still be if the winds blew that way, including Trump. This is not about the ideology they do love to talk about and getting the US back to the sterling level the Founding Fathers created. It is about making the top money and power. GOP was an easier paths to make that happen. Simple as that. Hell if Bloomberg wasn't a Dem with a stronger following in 2015, I suspect Trump would have gone that way. Whatever rings the cash register. Did you get the new Presidential sneakers or Champaign?
Agree they were all dems. We know that. But they are doing a whole ton of anti-deepstate America 1st things. Their actions are limiting government and protecting our nation and people. Something neither dems or repubs have done the last 30 years.
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Porteroso said:Assassin said:Still believing that 20 million voters magically appeared, eh?Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:If only there was a way to prove it. But as you know the vote counting took extra long, and the destruction of the votes went really quick.Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
The FBI was claiming it was the most secure election ever within hours of the election ... when it clearly wasn't the most secure election ever.
Never mind the 15+ million votes that just disappeared this election. Crazy I know.
What is crazy is people who clearly knew nothing about politics in 2020. Anyone with a brain knew Trump was going to inspire a historic turnout, both for and against him.
The idea that the libs were able to manufacture 15 million votes in one election, but not the next, is what is crazy. Don't tell me right wing conspiracy theorists keeping "a real close eye" on the polling stations did it.
Didn't it go faster than this year? Florida used to take forever and it wasn't due to fraud. We let people watch this by the way, and the people counting are normally bipartisan. No matter how you slice it there is just no reason to claim 2020 was fraud. The evidence is just not there. Except of course your guy lost.
It's not a belief, it's a fact that more people turned out to vote than normal. Most of the country accepts it. It is just a fringe that can't accept that their dear leader lost fair and square.
Actually, the most recent pulling information I saw several months ago was that more people believed there were election irregularities than not in 2020.
Wait until they find whatever the Democrats forgot to destroy. And re-ijnterview all the law enforcement. And find out the names of all the Antifa that caused at least part of the riot. And find out the names of the FBI CI's and interview them to find out which ones participated, on instruction from their FBI handler, then follow the chain trading immunity for the next level and so forth...Chuckroast said:Actually, the most recent pulling information I saw several months ago was that more people believed there were election irregularities than not in 2020.Porteroso said:Assassin said:Still believing that 20 million voters magically appeared, eh?Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:If only there was a way to prove it. But as you know the vote counting took extra long, and the destruction of the votes went really quick.Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
The FBI was claiming it was the most secure election ever within hours of the election ... when it clearly wasn't the most secure election ever.
Never mind the 15+ million votes that just disappeared this election. Crazy I know.
What is crazy is people who clearly knew nothing about politics in 2020. Anyone with a brain knew Trump was going to inspire a historic turnout, both for and against him.
The idea that the libs were able to manufacture 15 million votes in one election, but not the next, is what is crazy. Don't tell me right wing conspiracy theorists keeping "a real close eye" on the polling stations did it.
Didn't it go faster than this year? Florida used to take forever and it wasn't due to fraud. We let people watch this by the way, and the people counting are normally bipartisan. No matter how you slice it there is just no reason to claim 2020 was fraud. The evidence is just not there. Except of course your guy lost.
It's not a belief, it's a fact that more people turned out to vote than normal. Most of the country accepts it. It is just a fringe that can't accept that their dear leader lost fair and square.
Not to mention offering immunity to those that created all these "extra" vote fabrications, for the names of those that told them to do it, and follow the chain up
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Assassin said:If that were true, Harris would be POTUS and we would drop into the Hell that the left was leading us intoPorteroso said:Assassin said:Still believing that 20 million voters magically appeared, eh?Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:If only there was a way to prove it. But as you know the vote counting took extra long, and the destruction of the votes went really quick.Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
The FBI was claiming it was the most secure election ever within hours of the election ... when it clearly wasn't the most secure election ever.
Never mind the 15+ million votes that just disappeared this election. Crazy I know.
What is crazy is people who clearly knew nothing about politics in 2020. Anyone with a brain knew Trump was going to inspire a historic turnout, both for and against him.
The idea that the libs were able to manufacture 15 million votes in one election, but not the next, is what is crazy. Don't tell me right wing conspiracy theorists keeping "a real close eye" on the polling stations did it.
Didn't it go faster than this year? Florida used to take forever and it wasn't due to fraud. We let people watch this by the way, and the people counting are normally bipartisan. No matter how you slice it there is just no reason to claim 2020 was fraud. The evidence is just not there. Except of course your guy lost.
It's not a belief, it's a fact that more people turned out to vote than normal. Most of the country accepts it. It is just a fringe that can't accept that their dear leader lost fair and square.
What? I'm talking about 2020. Harris dropped out with 0 electors.
Chuckroast said:Porteroso said:Assassin said:Still believing that 20 million voters magically appeared, eh?Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:If only there was a way to prove it. But as you know the vote counting took extra long, and the destruction of the votes went really quick.Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
The FBI was claiming it was the most secure election ever within hours of the election ... when it clearly wasn't the most secure election ever.
Never mind the 15+ million votes that just disappeared this election. Crazy I know.
What is crazy is people who clearly knew nothing about politics in 2020. Anyone with a brain knew Trump was going to inspire a historic turnout, both for and against him.
The idea that the libs were able to manufacture 15 million votes in one election, but not the next, is what is crazy. Don't tell me right wing conspiracy theorists keeping "a real close eye" on the polling stations did it.
Didn't it go faster than this year? Florida used to take forever and it wasn't due to fraud. We let people watch this by the way, and the people counting are normally bipartisan. No matter how you slice it there is just no reason to claim 2020 was fraud. The evidence is just not there. Except of course your guy lost.
It's not a belief, it's a fact that more people turned out to vote than normal. Most of the country accepts it. It is just a fringe that can't accept that their dear leader lost fair and square.
Actually, the most recent pulling information I saw several months ago was that more people believed there were election irregularities than not in 2020.
That would he decidedly different from 15 million fraudulent votes. We all know there were irregularities, the unlawful expansion of mail in ballot voting.
Assassin said:Wait until they find whatever the Democrats forgot to destroy. And re-ijnterview all the law enforcement. And find out the names of all the Antifa that caused at least part of the riot. And find out the names of the FBI CI's and interview them to find out which ones participated, on instruction from their FBI handler, then follow the chain trading immunity for the next level and so forth...Chuckroast said:Actually, the most recent pulling information I saw several months ago was that more people believed there were election irregularities than not in 2020.Porteroso said:Assassin said:Still believing that 20 million voters magically appeared, eh?Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:If only there was a way to prove it. But as you know the vote counting took extra long, and the destruction of the votes went really quick.Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
The FBI was claiming it was the most secure election ever within hours of the election ... when it clearly wasn't the most secure election ever.
Never mind the 15+ million votes that just disappeared this election. Crazy I know.
What is crazy is people who clearly knew nothing about politics in 2020. Anyone with a brain knew Trump was going to inspire a historic turnout, both for and against him.
The idea that the libs were able to manufacture 15 million votes in one election, but not the next, is what is crazy. Don't tell me right wing conspiracy theorists keeping "a real close eye" on the polling stations did it.
Didn't it go faster than this year? Florida used to take forever and it wasn't due to fraud. We let people watch this by the way, and the people counting are normally bipartisan. No matter how you slice it there is just no reason to claim 2020 was fraud. The evidence is just not there. Except of course your guy lost.
It's not a belief, it's a fact that more people turned out to vote than normal. Most of the country accepts it. It is just a fringe that can't accept that their dear leader lost fair and square.
Not to mention offering immunity to those that created all these "extra" vote fabrications, for the names of those that told them to do it, and follow the chain up
If at the end of 2028, none of that has been found, will you concede that maybe it was a fair election?
Exactly. If 2020 had 20 million phantom voters, then the 2024 election would have the same or more, except they were phantom. They never existed.Porteroso said:What? I'm talking about 2020. Harris dropped out with 0 electors.Assassin said:If that were true, Harris would be POTUS and we would drop into the Hell that the left was leading us intoPorteroso said:Assassin said:Still believing that 20 million voters magically appeared, eh?Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:If only there was a way to prove it. But as you know the vote counting took extra long, and the destruction of the votes went really quick.Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
The FBI was claiming it was the most secure election ever within hours of the election ... when it clearly wasn't the most secure election ever.
Never mind the 15+ million votes that just disappeared this election. Crazy I know.
What is crazy is people who clearly knew nothing about politics in 2020. Anyone with a brain knew Trump was going to inspire a historic turnout, both for and against him.
The idea that the libs were able to manufacture 15 million votes in one election, but not the next, is what is crazy. Don't tell me right wing conspiracy theorists keeping "a real close eye" on the polling stations did it.
Didn't it go faster than this year? Florida used to take forever and it wasn't due to fraud. We let people watch this by the way, and the people counting are normally bipartisan. No matter how you slice it there is just no reason to claim 2020 was fraud. The evidence is just not there. Except of course your guy lost.
It's not a belief, it's a fact that more people turned out to vote than normal. Most of the country accepts it. It is just a fringe that can't accept that their dear leader lost fair and square.
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Assassin said:Exactly. If 2020 had 20 million phantom voters, then the 2024 election would have the same or more, except they were phantom. They never existed.Porteroso said:What? I'm talking about 2020. Harris dropped out with 0 electors.Assassin said:If that were true, Harris would be POTUS and we would drop into the Hell that the left was leading us intoPorteroso said:Assassin said:Still believing that 20 million voters magically appeared, eh?Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:If only there was a way to prove it. But as you know the vote counting took extra long, and the destruction of the votes went really quick.Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
The FBI was claiming it was the most secure election ever within hours of the election ... when it clearly wasn't the most secure election ever.
Never mind the 15+ million votes that just disappeared this election. Crazy I know.
What is crazy is people who clearly knew nothing about politics in 2020. Anyone with a brain knew Trump was going to inspire a historic turnout, both for and against him.
The idea that the libs were able to manufacture 15 million votes in one election, but not the next, is what is crazy. Don't tell me right wing conspiracy theorists keeping "a real close eye" on the polling stations did it.
Didn't it go faster than this year? Florida used to take forever and it wasn't due to fraud. We let people watch this by the way, and the people counting are normally bipartisan. No matter how you slice it there is just no reason to claim 2020 was fraud. The evidence is just not there. Except of course your guy lost.
It's not a belief, it's a fact that more people turned out to vote than normal. Most of the country accepts it. It is just a fringe that can't accept that their dear leader lost fair and square.
You... don't get it. Your post didn't even make sense. You are a true zealot, dedicated to a cause. Just dont pretend to be capable of logic ration or reason.
Porteroso said:Chuckroast said:Porteroso said:Assassin said:Still believing that 20 million voters magically appeared, eh?Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:If only there was a way to prove it. But as you know the vote counting took extra long, and the destruction of the votes went really quick.Porteroso said:TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
The FBI was claiming it was the most secure election ever within hours of the election ... when it clearly wasn't the most secure election ever.
Never mind the 15+ million votes that just disappeared this election. Crazy I know.
What is crazy is people who clearly knew nothing about politics in 2020. Anyone with a brain knew Trump was going to inspire a historic turnout, both for and against him.
The idea that the libs were able to manufacture 15 million votes in one election, but not the next, is what is crazy. Don't tell me right wing conspiracy theorists keeping "a real close eye" on the polling stations did it.
Didn't it go faster than this year? Florida used to take forever and it wasn't due to fraud. We let people watch this by the way, and the people counting are normally bipartisan. No matter how you slice it there is just no reason to claim 2020 was fraud. The evidence is just not there. Except of course your guy lost.
It's not a belief, it's a fact that more people turned out to vote than normal. Most of the country accepts it. It is just a fringe that can't accept that their dear leader lost fair and square.
Actually, the most recent pulling information I saw several months ago was that more people believed there were election irregularities than not in 2020.
That would he decidedly different from 15 million fraudulent votes. We all know there were irregularities, the unlawful expansion of mail in ballot voting.
We don't know it wasn't 15 million votes either. It needs to be investigated before we know the true extent… Something that has never been done.