nein51 said:

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It's not up to a political party to fix home and auto insurance. That's strictly math.

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Disagree. Auto insurance is so high because of the uninsured. Government could do a lot to force people to buy insurance, or lose their car.

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nein51 said:

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It's not up to a political party to fix home and auto insurance. That's strictly math.

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Disagree. Auto insurance is so high because of the uninsured. Government could do a lot to force people to buy insurance, or lose their car.

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The government needs to stay out of everything they can stay out of. And it's already required to have insurance. Just like it's required to have a DL.

And auto insurance is so high because the cost of repair is insane right now. A side mirror can be $5,000 (yes that's a real number).

nein51 said:

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Porteroso said:

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nein51 said:

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It's not up to a political party to fix home and auto insurance. That's strictly math.

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Disagree. Auto insurance is so high because of the uninsured. Government could do a lot to force people to buy insurance, or lose their car.

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The government needs to stay out of everything they can stay out of. And it's already required to have insurance. Just like it's required to have a DL.

And auto insurance is so high because the cost of repair is insane right now. A side mirror can be $5,000 (yes that's a real number).

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If the government is going to require some thing by law, they have to enforce it. It's ok if you dont want to require insurance for drivers, but makes no sense to have the government "require" insurance, then never enforce the requirement.

I believe this is a state thing. States have to have inspections, pull over uninspired cars, check insurance at inspection and also tag renewal.

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nein51 said:

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Porteroso said:

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nein51 said:

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It's not up to a political party to fix home and auto insurance. That's strictly math.

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Disagree. Auto insurance is so high because of the uninsured. Government could do a lot to force people to buy insurance, or lose their car.

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The government needs to stay out of everything they can stay out of. And it's already required to have insurance. Just like it's required to have a DL.

And auto insurance is so high because the cost of repair is insane right now. A side mirror can be $5,000 (yes that's a real number).

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If the government is going to require some thing by law, they have to enforce it. It's ok if you dont want to require insurance for drivers, but makes no sense to have the government "require" insurance, then never enforce the requirement.

I believe this is a state thing. States have to have inspections, pull over uninspired cars, check insurance at inspection and also tag renewal.

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It is enforced. You can't get a new DL, you can't get registration.

People go get SR22s and then let them lapse. And traffic enforcement does exactly what you're asking them to do.

Unless you want a system where you have to show your car auto insurance before it turns on there's nothing more the government can do.

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Porteroso said:

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nein51 said:

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It's not up to a political party to fix home and auto insurance. That's strictly math.

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Disagree. Auto insurance is so high because of the uninsured. Government could do a lot to force people to buy insurance, or lose their car.

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The government needs to stay out of everything they can stay out of. And it's already required to have insurance. Just like it's required to have a DL.

And auto insurance is so high because the cost of repair is insane right now. A side mirror can be $5,000 (yes that's a real number).

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You dont really need a side mirror. Just don't change lanes or backup. Simple

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nein51 said:

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Porteroso said:

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nein51 said:

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It's not up to a political party to fix home and auto insurance. That's strictly math.

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Disagree. Auto insurance is so high because of the uninsured. Government could do a lot to force people to buy insurance, or lose their car.

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The government needs to stay out of everything they can stay out of. And it's already required to have insurance. Just like it's required to have a DL.

And auto insurance is so high because the cost of repair is insane right now. A side mirror can be $5,000 (yes that's a real number).

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You dont really need a side mirror. Just don't change lanes or backup. Simple

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True…except no mirror then your adaptive cruise control doesn't work, your lane departure warning doesn't work and your dash board lights up like a Christmas tree…which is how you get to a $5,000 mirror replacement.

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nein51 said:

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Porteroso said:

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nein51 said:

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It's not up to a political party to fix home and auto insurance. That's strictly math.

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Disagree. Auto insurance is so high because of the uninsured. Government could do a lot to force people to buy insurance, or lose their car.

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The government needs to stay out of everything they can stay out of. And it's already required to have insurance. Just like it's required to have a DL.

And auto insurance is so high because the cost of repair is insane right now. A side mirror can be $5,000 (yes that's a real number).

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You dont really need a side mirror. Just don't change lanes or backup. Simple

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my 64 chevy pick up only has one side mirror from the factory.

Government regulations are always a factor. And there are the indirect connections. For example, millions of illegal aliens on our highways probably result in more accidents which drive up costs for almost everyone. And there is inflation in general, almost always caused by govt.

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Government regulations are always a factor. And there are the indirect connections. For example, millions of illegal aliens on our highways probably result in more accidents which drive up costs for almost everyone. And there is inflation in general, almost always caused by govt.

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That may make up 2% of the cost. Overall it is not the role of government to cure home and auto insurance prices and, overwhelmingly, they are not the cause of those rates.

I'm shocked by how many Republicans seem to be for more government around here.

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Porteroso said:

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nein51 said:

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It's not up to a political party to fix home and auto insurance. That's strictly math.

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Disagree. Auto insurance is so high because of the uninsured. Government could do a lot to force people to buy insurance, or lose their car.

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The government needs to stay out of everything they can stay out of. And it's already required to have insurance. Just like it's required to have a DL.

And auto insurance is so high because the cost of repair is insane right now. A side mirror can be $5,000 (yes that's a real number).

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You dont really need a side mirror. Just don't change lanes or backup. Simple

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my 64 chevy pick up only has one side mirror from the factory.

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Before I got my GED and went to college, I was down in Houston selling Encyclopedia Britannica off magazine leads. I was driving my old 1963 Chevy Van that had mirrors that locked into the window sills. Someone stole them and I was driving a van that did not have side windows, only back windows, all over Houston, just hoping there was no one beside me in the lane on either side of my van. I lucked out and didnt hit anybody, but it was scary as hell

Just because I push back on @POTUS doesn’t mean I don’t think he’s the best president of our lifetime. I’d pick him every time over a socialist like Harris or a Biden who can’t even do the job. On many things, when it comes to lower taxes and less regulation, he gets it. pic.twitter.com/q227ragshH

— Senator Rand Paul (@SenRandPaul) October 8, 2025

This is literally the same story I hear day in and day out.

Our health insurance system is crushing people.

And there is currently no easy off ramp. https://t.co/BxMBdhugpe

— Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸 (@RepMTG) October 8, 2025

Germany has proposed raising the retirement age to 73 to prevent the collapse of the pension system, per Reuters

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) October 6, 2025

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historian said:

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Government regulations are always a factor. And there are the indirect connections. For example, millions of illegal aliens on our highways probably result in more accidents which drive up costs for almost everyone. And there is inflation in general, almost always caused by govt.

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That may make up 2% of the cost. Overall it is not the role of government to cure home and auto insurance prices and, overwhelmingly, they are not the cause of those rates.

I'm shocked by how many Republicans seem to be for more government around here.

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My argument is not more govt but less. If the problem is not caused by govt then that's a rare cause for celebration. To the extent that it is, then the govt should get out of the way and allow the free market to work. The federal govt must be downsized as much as possible and it's told in society reduced.

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Germany has proposed raising the retirement age to 73 to prevent the collapse of the pension system, per Reuters

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) October 6, 2025

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That would be right before their "Forced Euthanasia" at 74 for all white Germans

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This is literally the same story I hear day in and day out.

Our health insurance system is crushing people.

And there is currently no easy off ramp. https://t.co/BxMBdhugpe

— Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸 (@RepMTG) October 8, 2025

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Here's another argument about Obamacare premiums:

https://the-federalist.com/2025/10/08/no-obamacare-premiums-are-not-doubling/

The real problem is Obamacare and it has been since day one. It's like every other govt program: you pay more and get less. Bureaucratic rot makes everything inefficient and increasingly frustrating. And it always seems to be getting worse. But it does keep the bureaucrats employed and the corrupt politicians in power.

The Republican controlled Senate used the nuclear option today to override the 60 vote rule in order to confirm over 100 Trump nominees, yet continues to claim Democrats are causing the shutdown.

Spoiler alert, the Republicans in the Senate can also use the nuclear option to…

— Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸 (@RepMTG) October 8, 2025

Trump: The amazing thing is you look at Portland, and you see fires all over the place, you see fights and just violence -- it is so crazy.

You see it on your network

It's like movies you see for the kids, adults also with these bombed out cities, it is worse than that pic.twitter.com/6gMqgt9K6H

— Acyn (@Acyn) October 8, 2025

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That's the risk you run when words stop having meaning. There are repercussions.

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"We conclude that the foregoing evidence, the great bulk of which was undisputed at trial, established that President Trump engaged in insurrection." Anderson v. Griswold, 2023

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The Republican controlled Senate used the nuclear option today to override the 60 vote rule in order to confirm over 100 Trump nominees, yet continues to claim Democrats are causing the shutdown.

Spoiler alert, the Republicans in the Senate can also use the nuclear option to…

— Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸 (@RepMTG) October 8, 2025

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She is getting reamed on Twitter for this. What is wrong with her? Does she want the actual people that are working in DC to sit on their thumbs?

MTG - your rhetoric is not working anymore

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That's the risk you run when words stop having meaning. There are repercussions.

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"We conclude that the foregoing evidence, the great bulk of which was undisputed at trial, established that President Trump engaged in insurrection." Anderson v. Griswold, 2023

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"Special Counsel Jack Smith charged Trump with conspiracy to defraud the U.S., conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of and attempt to obstruct an official proceeding…

But what he didn't charge Trump with namely, incitement of an insurrection"

Sam Lowry said:

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That's the risk you run when words stop having meaning. There are repercussions.

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"We conclude…that President Trump engaged in insurrection." Anderson v. Griswold, 2023

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You realize of course that "insurrection" is not even a term defined by Federal law right?


[the term "insurrection" is not explicitly defined by federal law]

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Sam Lowry said:

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nein51 said:

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That's the risk you run when words stop having meaning. There are repercussions.

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"We conclude…that President Trump engaged in insurrection." Anderson v. Griswold, 2023

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You realize of course that "insurrection" is not even a term defined by Federal law right?


[the term "insurrection" is not explicitly defined by federal law]

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Apparently, it's a 'Christian Nationalist' thing.

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boognish_bear said:

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The Republican controlled Senate used the nuclear option today to override the 60 vote rule in order to confirm over 100 Trump nominees, yet continues to claim Democrats are causing the shutdown.

Spoiler alert, the Republicans in the Senate can also use the nuclear option to…

— Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸 (@RepMTG) October 8, 2025

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She is getting reamed on Twitter for this. What is wrong with her? Does she want the actual people that are working in DC to sit on their thumbs?

MTG - your rhetoric is not working anymore

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May be time trade MTG for Fetterman

boognish_bear said:

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Assassin said:

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boognish_bear said:

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The Republican controlled Senate used the nuclear option today to override the 60 vote rule in order to confirm over 100 Trump nominees, yet continues to claim Democrats are causing the shutdown.

Spoiler alert, the Republicans in the Senate can also use the nuclear option to…

— Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸 (@RepMTG) October 8, 2025

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She is getting reamed on Twitter for this. What is wrong with her? Does she want the actual people that are working in DC to sit on their thumbs?

MTG - your rhetoric is not working anymore

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May be time trade MTG for Fetterman

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THAT is a great idea. She could get some great festering going on over there. Kinda 'gangrene on a stick'

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boognish_bear said:

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The Republican controlled Senate used the nuclear option today to override the 60 vote rule in order to confirm over 100 Trump nominees, yet continues to claim Democrats are causing the shutdown.

Spoiler alert, the Republicans in the Senate can also use the nuclear option to…

— Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸 (@RepMTG) October 8, 2025

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She is getting reamed on Twitter for this. What is wrong with her? Does she want the actual people that are working in DC to sit on their thumbs?

MTG - your rhetoric is not working anymore

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May be time trade MTG for Fetterman

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THAT is a great idea. She could get some great festering going on over there. Kinda 'gangrene on a stick'

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🚨 NEW: The amazing Portland business owner of Bison Coffeehouse, Loretta Guzman, BLASTS Portland's Democrat leadership!

"We struggle every day, every week, with the crime and the drugs... It's like our leaders have abandoned public safety."

THANK YOU, Loretta. Portland… pic.twitter.com/ZL46hW5EAH

— David Medina 🦫🇺🇸 (@davidmedinapdx) October 8, 2025

Redbrickbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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nein51 said:

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That's the risk you run when words stop having meaning. There are repercussions.

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"We conclude…that President Trump engaged in insurrection." Anderson v. Griswold, 2023

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You realize of course that "insurrection" is not even a term defined by Federal law right?


[the term "insurrection" is not explicitly defined by federal law]

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Yes, that's one of the reasons it's rarely charged.

Sam Lowry said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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nein51 said:

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That's the risk you run when words stop having meaning. There are repercussions.

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"We conclude…that President Trump engaged in insurrection." Anderson v. Griswold, 2023

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You realize of course that "insurrection" is not even a term defined by Federal law right?


[the term "insurrection" is not explicitly defined by federal law]

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Yes, that's one of the reasons it's rarely charged.

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And rightfully so

If it was…then partisan political hacks might try to charge a President and leader of the opposition with such a spurious claim

Or even try to put him in prison for a riot he did not order or command.

Americans botched it by not picking this guy for president and keep chasing shitty entertainers, then cry their eyes out the moment the idiot plops down in the Oval Office.

— 𝓜𝓪𝓻𝓪𝓻𝓪® (@marara_one) October 8, 2025

“MTG is suddenly turning on Republicans and Trump!”

Wrong. Listen to why I ran in the first place.

In April 2023, in a 60 Minutes interview, MTG said that the very reason she ran for Congress was seeing the “House and the Senate completely fail to deliver the agenda that we had… pic.twitter.com/1LWzJIvhAf

— Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸 (@RepMTG) October 8, 2025

historian said:

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boognish_bear said:

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This is literally the same story I hear day in and day out.

Our health insurance system is crushing people.

And there is currently no easy off ramp. https://t.co/BxMBdhugpe

— Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene🇺🇸 (@RepMTG) October 8, 2025

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Here's another argument about Obamacare premiums:

https://the-federalist.com/2025/10/08/no-obamacare-premiums-are-not-doubling/

The real problem is Obamacare and it has been since day one. It's like every other govt program: you pay more and get less. Bureaucratic rot makes everything inefficient and increasingly frustrating. And it always seems to be getting worse. But it does keep the bureaucrats employed and the corrupt politicians in power.

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alot if doctors dont take marketplace insurance either as the reimbursement fee schedule is different, even if it is blue cross, its not the same

Sam Lowry said:

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That's the risk you run when words stop having meaning. There are repercussions.

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"We conclude that the foregoing evidence, the great bulk of which was undisputed at trial, established that President Trump engaged in insurrection." Anderson v. Griswold, 2023

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thats what you get from the judiciary of a state where drugs are legal

BREAKING: The Senate rejects a measure to stop Trump from unilaterally striking Venezuelan boats, 48-51.

Fetterman voted No.

Rand Paul and Lisa Murkowski voted Yes.

pic.twitter.com/ObDaSbjL1Y

— Spencer Hakimian (@SpencerHakimian) October 9, 2025

Glenn: The city of Austin is cleared to vote tomorrow to basically waive a $120,000 fee so an anti-trump rally can occur in their city.

Trump I would love to do something about that. A lawsuit, do something… The elections are rigged in some of these places. pic.twitter.com/dKOSlKabg3

— Acyn (@Acyn) October 8, 2025