Trump's first 100 days

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FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

It's a natural and obvious comparison in the honest of this discussion.
No, it isn't. Biden is gone. Trump has been making EOs and policy changes left and right. So, if it is a strategy to do so much right from the beginning so it can't be challenged, than he takes the responsibility for the Nation in month 5.

Don't get it both ways. Go nuts with changes, but any negatives are the guy before.
False dilemma.

Policies do not full impact immediately. It takes time for things to move forward. Part of that process is that it takes time to legislation passed (and the bigger & more important it is to a President's agenda, the more the opposition will fight it). And, of course, it takes time for trade negotiations to occur and conclude. THEN it takes months for the economy to respond fully.

Silliest assertion one could make, for example, is that Trump is wholly responsible for the recession in Q1. Dude wasn't even in office for the entire quarter, had no hope of getting his entire legislation passed, much less for all that to take effect.
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historian said:

Apparently some of you guys are unfamiliar with the concept of trolling. Trump is a master. That's all this is and it's harmless.

Another option is that maybe you are just looking for a reason to criticize him. This is a pretty lame one.
yes, he is leader of the free world. he is also a politician who has to kiss babies & shake hands & do all kinds of rather unstatesmanlike things, to include talking a little smack about his political opponents from time to time
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whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

It's a natural and obvious comparison in the honest of this discussion.
No, it isn't. Biden is gone. Trump has been making EOs and policy changes left and right. So, if it is a strategy to do so much right from the beginning so it can't be challenged, than he takes the responsibility for the Nation in month 5.

Don't get it both ways. Go nuts with changes, but any negatives are the guy before.
False dilemma.

Policies do not full impact immediately. It takes time for things to move forward. Part of that process is that it takes time to legislation passed (and the bigger & more important it is to a President's agenda, the more the opposition will fight it). And, of course, it takes time for trade negotiations to occur and conclude. THEN it takes months for the economy to respond fully.

Silliest assertion one could make, for example, is that Trump is wholly responsible for the recession in Q1. Dude wasn't even in office for the entire quarter, had no hope of getting his entire legislation passed, much less for all that to take effect.


There was a recession in q1?
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Fre3dombear said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

It's a natural and obvious comparison in the honest of this discussion.
No, it isn't. Biden is gone. Trump has been making EOs and policy changes left and right. So, if it is a strategy to do so much right from the beginning so it can't be challenged, than he takes the responsibility for the Nation in month 5.

Don't get it both ways. Go nuts with changes, but any negatives are the guy before.
False dilemma.

Policies do not full impact immediately. It takes time for things to move forward. Part of that process is that it takes time to legislation passed (and the bigger & more important it is to a President's agenda, the more the opposition will fight it). And, of course, it takes time for trade negotiations to occur and conclude. THEN it takes months for the economy to respond fully.

Silliest assertion one could make, for example, is that Trump is wholly responsible for the recession in Q1. Dude wasn't even in office for the entire quarter, had no hope of getting his entire legislation passed, much less for all that to take effect.


There was a recession in q1?
several reports published that we did have mild contraction in Q1.

Predictably, the neverTrumpers leapt to hang it 100% around Trump's neck for having the audacity to utter in public a word that starts with "tar" and ends with "iff."
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whiterock said:

Fre3dombear said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

It's a natural and obvious comparison in the honest of this discussion.
No, it isn't. Biden is gone. Trump has been making EOs and policy changes left and right. So, if it is a strategy to do so much right from the beginning so it can't be challenged, than he takes the responsibility for the Nation in month 5.

Don't get it both ways. Go nuts with changes, but any negatives are the guy before.
False dilemma.

Policies do not full impact immediately. It takes time for things to move forward. Part of that process is that it takes time to legislation passed (and the bigger & more important it is to a President's agenda, the more the opposition will fight it). And, of course, it takes time for trade negotiations to occur and conclude. THEN it takes months for the economy to respond fully.

Silliest assertion one could make, for example, is that Trump is wholly responsible for the recession in Q1. Dude wasn't even in office for the entire quarter, had no hope of getting his entire legislation passed, much less for all that to take effect.


There was a recession in q1?
several reports published that we did have mild contraction in Q1.

Predictably, the neverTrumpers leapt to hang it 100% around Trump's neck for having the audacity to utter in public a word that starts with "tar" and ends with "iff."

I think they were worried he was wanting the tariffs he announced which would have sent the entire globe into a recession. Turns out China was right and Trump was not serious about the tariffs.
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william said:



arrived in SA.... will take a long time to retro fit / get up to AF1 specs......

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Have they scraped off the 'Ask me about my Jihad' bumper sticker yet?
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whiterock said:

Fre3dombear said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

It's a natural and obvious comparison in the honest of this discussion.
No, it isn't. Biden is gone. Trump has been making EOs and policy changes left and right. So, if it is a strategy to do so much right from the beginning so it can't be challenged, than he takes the responsibility for the Nation in month 5.

Don't get it both ways. Go nuts with changes, but any negatives are the guy before.
False dilemma.

Policies do not full impact immediately. It takes time for things to move forward. Part of that process is that it takes time to legislation passed (and the bigger & more important it is to a President's agenda, the more the opposition will fight it). And, of course, it takes time for trade negotiations to occur and conclude. THEN it takes months for the economy to respond fully.

Silliest assertion one could make, for example, is that Trump is wholly responsible for the recession in Q1. Dude wasn't even in office for the entire quarter, had no hope of getting his entire legislation passed, much less for all that to take effect.


There was a recession in q1?
several reports published that we did have mild contraction in Q1.

Predictably, the neverTrumpers leapt to hang it 100% around Trump's neck for having the audacity to utter in public a word that starts with "tar" and ends with "iff."


Well, yeah that was dumb as we had the best 6 months ever while they panic sold to us.

Generally recession is 2 consecutive quarters but even as Biden rilled that out they just powered up the fools propaganda machine to say yeah but that's not a real recession. Then everyone went broke or in massive debt which they have to this day

Orange man is helping heal the USA and the world and lining our pockets though.
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boognish_bear said:



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boognish_bear said:




This simply cannot be accurate.

Biden has dementia but his Treasury secretary doesn't.
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J.R. said:

boognish_bear said:



USDA Prime Horses Ass


LOL, that's actually funny
Thee tinfoil hat couch-potato prognosticator, not a bible school preacher.


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boognish_bear said:


Wow, I actually agree with her on something. This is a first.
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FLBear5630 said:

boognish_bear said:


Wow, I actually agree with her on something. This is a first.
Wait till she gets her hooks into Pelosi and Bernie's trading!
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Wow. Such kamala vibes. Whoof
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Porteroso said:

whiterock said:

Fre3dombear said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

It's a natural and obvious comparison in the honest of this discussion.
No, it isn't. Biden is gone. Trump has been making EOs and policy changes left and right. So, if it is a strategy to do so much right from the beginning so it can't be challenged, than he takes the responsibility for the Nation in month 5.

Don't get it both ways. Go nuts with changes, but any negatives are the guy before.
False dilemma.

Policies do not full impact immediately. It takes time for things to move forward. Part of that process is that it takes time to legislation passed (and the bigger & more important it is to a President's agenda, the more the opposition will fight it). And, of course, it takes time for trade negotiations to occur and conclude. THEN it takes months for the economy to respond fully.

Silliest assertion one could make, for example, is that Trump is wholly responsible for the recession in Q1. Dude wasn't even in office for the entire quarter, had no hope of getting his entire legislation passed, much less for all that to take effect.


There was a recession in q1?
several reports published that we did have mild contraction in Q1.

Predictably, the neverTrumpers leapt to hang it 100% around Trump's neck for having the audacity to utter in public a word that starts with "tar" and ends with "iff."

I think they were worried he was wanting the tariffs he announced which would have sent the entire globe into a recession. Turns out China was right and Trump was not serious about the tariffs.
Again the faulty premise. Trump was deadly serious about the tariffs for those who refused to negotiate new trade deals. Almost all of them, wisely, rushed to the table to talk. China dragged its feet but ultimately did what everyone else did (in no small part because they had labor demonstrations in the streets over unpaid wages). And as they engaged more seriously, the tariffs were inched down incrementally.

Tariffs are an enormously persuasive negotiation tool, particularly when they are already in place and choking off the trade that the other guys need more than we do.

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Fre3dombear said:

whiterock said:

Fre3dombear said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

It's a natural and obvious comparison in the honest of this discussion.
No, it isn't. Biden is gone. Trump has been making EOs and policy changes left and right. So, if it is a strategy to do so much right from the beginning so it can't be challenged, than he takes the responsibility for the Nation in month 5.

Don't get it both ways. Go nuts with changes, but any negatives are the guy before.
False dilemma.

Policies do not full impact immediately. It takes time for things to move forward. Part of that process is that it takes time to legislation passed (and the bigger & more important it is to a President's agenda, the more the opposition will fight it). And, of course, it takes time for trade negotiations to occur and conclude. THEN it takes months for the economy to respond fully.

Silliest assertion one could make, for example, is that Trump is wholly responsible for the recession in Q1. Dude wasn't even in office for the entire quarter, had no hope of getting his entire legislation passed, much less for all that to take effect.


There was a recession in q1?
several reports published that we did have mild contraction in Q1.

Predictably, the neverTrumpers leapt to hang it 100% around Trump's neck for having the audacity to utter in public a word that starts with "tar" and ends with "iff."


Well, yeah that was dumb as we had the best 6 months ever while they panic sold to us.

Generally recession is 2 consecutive quarters but even as Biden rilled that out they just powered up the fools propaganda machine to say yeah but that's not a real recession. Then everyone went broke or in massive debt which they have to this day

Orange man is helping heal the USA and the world and lining our pockets though.
Unclear if we can get the changes we need without a recession. cutting $1T in federal deficit spending is ipso facto cutting $1t out of GDP. The $10T in investments pledged from abroad are more than enough to offset, but how much of it will happen in the last 6 months of this FY is unknown. Not at all unreasonable to think 10% of it ($1T) will hit this FY, but hard to think much of that will happen by the end of Q2. (of course, not all the spending cuts will hit by end of Q2 either.

Could muddle thru, of course, but all we can do is put the policies in place. Things will flow when & how they flow......
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whiterock said:

Fre3dombear said:

whiterock said:

Fre3dombear said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

historian said:

It's a natural and obvious comparison in the honest of this discussion.
No, it isn't. Biden is gone. Trump has been making EOs and policy changes left and right. So, if it is a strategy to do so much right from the beginning so it can't be challenged, than he takes the responsibility for the Nation in month 5.

Don't get it both ways. Go nuts with changes, but any negatives are the guy before.
False dilemma.

Policies do not full impact immediately. It takes time for things to move forward. Part of that process is that it takes time to legislation passed (and the bigger & more important it is to a President's agenda, the more the opposition will fight it). And, of course, it takes time for trade negotiations to occur and conclude. THEN it takes months for the economy to respond fully.

Silliest assertion one could make, for example, is that Trump is wholly responsible for the recession in Q1. Dude wasn't even in office for the entire quarter, had no hope of getting his entire legislation passed, much less for all that to take effect.


There was a recession in q1?
several reports published that we did have mild contraction in Q1.

Predictably, the neverTrumpers leapt to hang it 100% around Trump's neck for having the audacity to utter in public a word that starts with "tar" and ends with "iff."


Well, yeah that was dumb as we had the best 6 months ever while they panic sold to us.

Generally recession is 2 consecutive quarters but even as Biden rilled that out they just powered up the fools propaganda machine to say yeah but that's not a real recession. Then everyone went broke or in massive debt which they have to this day

Orange man is helping heal the USA and the world and lining our pockets though.
Unclear if we can get the changes we need without a recession. cutting $1T in federal deficit spending is ipso facto cutting $1t out of GDP. The $10T in investments pledged from abroad are more than enough to offset, but how much of it will happen in the last 6 months of this FY is unknown. Not at all unreasonable to think 10% of it ($1T) will hit this FY, but hard to think much of that will happen by the end of Q2. (of course, not all the spending cuts will hit by end of Q2 either.

Could muddle thru, of course, but all we can do is put the policies in place. Things will flow when & how they flow......


If Trump's policies are seen as triggering a recession will Republicans survive the 2026 midterms. The economy may need a recession to reset itself...but will voters have the patience to see it through?
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https://www.axios.com/2025/05/18/trump-tariffs-bessent-walmart-prices

Prices will rise, Bessent says, as tariff pressure grows

Some consumer prices will likely rise due to tariffs, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent acknowledged on Sunday, even after the White House publicly warned retailers against it.

Why it matters: A week after the president's economic team insisted tariffs would not increase consumer prices, there's a different message: They will, but inflation's in check and other costs are coming down.

The big picture: Consumers' expectations for inflation are through the roof, and retailers are starting to make clear there's nothing they can do to hold prices down in the face of historic tariff rates.

As public opinion of President Trump's economic performance sinks, his team is trying to balance what consumers see at stores with what officials argue are offsetting benefits, like lower gas and grocery prices.
They are also fighting the same "vibes" problem the Biden administration had inflation's getting better, but everyone's feeling worse about it.

Driving the news: Earlier this week, Walmart, the country's largest retailer, said it could no longer hold the line and would have to raise prices on some products in the coming weeks.

On Saturday, Trump warned Walmart against it, demanding in a Truth Social post that the company "eat the tariffs."

That followed a furious reaction from the White House in late April, after a report Amazon might show customers the impact of tariffs on some prices (which the company later denied).
What they're saying: Bessent, in Sunday show interviews, acknowledged what was coming.

"Walmart will be absorbing some of the tariffs, some may get passed on to consumers," he told CNN's "State of the Union."
Yes, but: Bessent said he spoke to Walmart CEO Doug McMillon on Saturday and came away with the view that the company's customers were benefitting economically, more than anything else, as a result of lower gas prices.

"So, overall, I would expect inflation to remain in line," he said.
He later described the falling gas prices to NBC's "Meet the Press" as "a direct tax cut for consumers."

The national average retail price for regular grades of gasoline is about 12% lower today than it was a year ago, per AAA.

The intrigue: Republicans are starting to speak out more forcefully about the impact of tariffs.

Sen. John Curtis (R-Ut.) told CNN he was concerned about the impact of tariffs on small businesses in particular.

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) told ABC's "This Week" on Sunday "there will be higher prices" as a result of tariffs, and he criticized the argument that trade deficits were in and of themselves problematic.

What to watch: Walmart said prices should start to rise in the next couple of weeks and other retailers may follow soon behind them.
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boognish_bear said:


Interesting concept. I like hearing from this guy
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Assassin said:

boognish_bear said:


Interesting concept. I like hearing from this guy


I do too. Trump did a great job on this pick.
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boognish_bear said:




And yet she seems to have partnered up with one of the worst (best) at this in Sanders as he has gotten wealthy in Congress. And there are plenty on both sides of the aisle but she does seem a little two faced about this considering who she is campaigning with.
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boognish_bear said:


Sometimes I wonder which side of the aisle he is on... He's becoming Liz Chaney. See how that worked out
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Maybe Scott will be our first gay president ?

If it came down between Vance or Scott as the Republican nominee I would choose Scott.
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KaiBear said:

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Maybe Scott will be our first gay president ?

If it came down between Vance or Scott as the Republican nominee I would choose Scott.
Starting to feel like it's Rubio. And him keeping most of the same staff in play
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KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:


Maybe Scott will be our first gay president ?

If it came down between Vance or Scott as the Republican nominee I would choose Scott.


Scott would have my vote too. Has there been speculation he may have interest in that?
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bessent is the man......

very impressed with this cat.

man.

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