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In reply to Osodecentx • 4:17p, 9/19/25
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Judge strikes down Trump's $15 billion suit against the New York Times
Calling it "decidedly improper and impermissible," Judge Steven D. Merryday slammed the 85-page complaint and said it could not stand.

He used the "procedurally improper", not that it didnt have merit. It will get refiled and stand.
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The Democrats can't be this stupid, can they?

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In reply to Assassin • 4:37p, 9/19/25
I say it all the time. Both sides have forgotten that they are really only 50% and that the other 50% matters. In this particular instance late night forgot about the other 50% many, many years ago.
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In reply to nein51 • 4:45p, 9/19/25
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ScottS said:
Sell H1B visas?

Trump expected to add new $100,000 fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

Charge companies for bringing in H1B employees. I actually don't hate that move at all. It should force companies to really think about the cost of the foreign worker that will work for less money.

Somewhat ironically if a Democrat did this much for the American worker they would be slobbering all over themselves in self congratulations.


Yea I like it too. Good move by Trump
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In reply to Osodecentx • 4:59p, 9/19/25
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Judge strikes down Trump's $15 billion suit against the New York Times
Calling it "decidedly improper and impermissible," Judge Steven D. Merryday slammed the 85-page complaint and said it could not stand.


I didn't think that suit was going anywhere, but that's an awfully vague explanation by that judge.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 7:07p, 9/19/25
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I approve
Now is the time
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In reply to Osodecentx • 7:13p, 9/19/25
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boognish_bear said:


I approve
Now is the time

Or let's get started on some real solutions. You shouldn't have to work until you die to get YOUR money.

I'll take $.50 on the dollar for what I'm owed. I'll generate many times the return that SS will ever generate.
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In reply to nein51 • 7:36p, 9/19/25
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Osodecentx said:
boognish_bear said:


I approve
Now is the time

Or let's get started on some real solutions. You shouldn't have to work until you die to get YOUR money.

I'll take $.50 on the dollar for what I'm owed. I'll generate many times the return that SS will ever generate.


What about retirement pay 2 years later starting in 2035?
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In reply to whiterock • 7:42p, 9/19/25
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Oldbear83 said:
"Unprecedented"?

Were you in a coma 2021-23?


he's just doing what lefties do....making stuff up to justify feeling the way he feels. Carr took no action to do anything regarding Kimmel's comments. Here merely observed, verbally, on a podcast that the affiliates had the ability to do what they ultimately did - remove inflammatory programming that offended viewers.

Look carefully at the facts here:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/18/media/brendan-carr-jimmy-kimmel-fcc-first-amendment

I wonder what Porter said that time Twitter and others kicked a sitting US President off their platforms during the homestretch of an election over inflammatory speech

He threatened their broadcasting license. Trump has since threatened the broadcasting licenses of any network that talks bad about him.
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In reply to Osodecentx • 8:26p, 9/19/25
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nein51 said:
Osodecentx said:
boognish_bear said:


I approve
Now is the time

Or let's get started on some real solutions. You shouldn't have to work until you die to get YOUR money.

I'll take $.50 on the dollar for what I'm owed. I'll generate many times the return that SS will ever generate.


What about retirement pay 2 years later starting in 2035?

I believe that would make retirement age 69 which is the oldest of any modern nation. The average lifespan for adults in the US is 78.4; 75.8 for men and 81.1 for women.

That is essentially working your entire life. The average social security check for a 70 year old is just over $3,000/mo. The average American contributes about $367,000 to SS over their lifetime.

That does mean the average person would get back what they paid in. Thats an ROI of $0.00

If you put $100/mo into an index fund in 2000 you would have contributed $30,000 and would have at least $100,000.

If you put $100/mo into an index fund in 1990 you would have contributed $42,000 and would have at least $310,000

If you put $100/mo into an index fund in 1980 you would have contributed $54,000 and would have at least $1.2M.

If you put $100/mo into an index fund in 1970 you would have contributed $66,000 and would have least $1.8M

That doesn't account for the $300,000 you would not have contributed to SS. If you did NOTHING with that money you would have 2.1M. You don't want to know how ridiculous those numbers get if you put the other $454/mo into the same index fund. You would have generational wealth.

SS was meant to force people to save. What it really did was force them to be poor and lend money to the government for free.
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10:16p, 9/19/25
"MAGA is a cult"

Also - "let's all wear matching caps for Jimmy Kimmel!!"

Forget Charlie Kirk, Kimmel is the true martyr!!!

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Geezus - look at this beta



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In reply to nein51 • 4:10a, 9/20/25
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boognish_bear said:
How self reliant are we talking here?


Cool thing to say but there's no practical way to do that imo.

they don't really have a choice. They've got to finish the job in Gaza or they'll be back to dozens of rocket attacks per day from Hamas. after they're done, the international isolation will eventually end. In the meantime a close relationship with the USA will make it survivable.
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In reply to Porteroso • 4:21a, 9/20/25
Porteroso said:
whiterock said:
Oldbear83 said:
"Unprecedented"?

Were you in a coma 2021-23?


he's just doing what lefties do....making stuff up to justify feeling the way he feels. Carr took no action to do anything regarding Kimmel's comments. Here merely observed, verbally, on a podcast that the affiliates had the ability to do what they ultimately did - remove inflammatory programming that offended viewers.

Look carefully at the facts here:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/18/media/brendan-carr-jimmy-kimmel-fcc-first-amendment

I wonder what Porter said that time Twitter and others kicked a sitting US President off their platforms during the homestretch of an election over inflammatory speech

He threatened their broadcasting license. Trump has since threatened the broadcasting licenses of any network that talks bad about him.

No, he did not use his power as a regulator to force anyone to do anything about Kimmel's comments. Have you seen anything other than his own generic comment on the podcast as a source? Even any off-the-record comments from officials from ABC or affiliates? Why is that? Because the affiliates dumped the show due to Kimmel's not just unprofessional but incredibly untimely comments, which in turn forced ABC's hand to dump an already unprofitable show in long term ratings decline.

To the extent that fear of what regulators might do had an impact in decisions of either affiliates or network....tell me: do you normally drive the speed limit, or at least close enough to it to avoid getting a ticket? Do you pump your brakes when you see a Highway Patrol car? Ever had a HiPo look at you and flash his lights for a second as he passed you? Did you slow down?
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In reply to nein51 • 4:57a, 9/20/25
nein51 said:
Osodecentx said:
nein51 said:
Osodecentx said:
boognish_bear said:


I approve
Now is the time

Or let's get started on some real solutions. You shouldn't have to work until you die to get YOUR money.

I'll take $.50 on the dollar for what I'm owed. I'll generate many times the return that SS will ever generate.


What about retirement pay 2 years later starting in 2035?

I believe that would make retirement age 69 which is the oldest of any modern nation. The average lifespan for adults in the US is 78.4; 75.8 for men and 81.1 for women.

That is essentially working your entire life. The average social security check for a 70 year old is just over $3,000/mo. The average American contributes about $367,000 to SS over their lifetime.

That does mean the average person would get back what they paid in. Thats an ROI of $0.00

If you put $100/mo into an index fund in 2000 you would have contributed $30,000 and would have at least $100,000.

If you put $100/mo into an index fund in 1990 you would have contributed $42,000 and would have at least $310,000

If you put $100/mo into an index fund in 1980 you would have contributed $54,000 and would have at least $1.2M.

If you put $100/mo into an index fund in 1970 you would have contributed $66,000 and would have least $1.8M

That doesn't account for the $300,000 you would not have contributed to SS. If you did NOTHING with that money you would have 2.1M. You don't want to know how ridiculous those numbers get if you put the other $454/mo into the same index fund. You would have generational wealth.

SS was meant to force people to save. What it really did was force them to be poor and lend money to the government for free.

Not really intended to force people to save. It was a straight up transfer system coming out of the Great Depression, to keep old people from starving to death. When it was established, the ratio of workers to beneficiaries was over twice what it is today. WORSE, male life expectancy at the time was +3 years below full retirement age. So the primary problem SS faces is that the demographic trends are working to the detriment of the actuarials. It was never, and can never, fully support the kind of growing gap between the static full retirement age and ever expanding life-expectancy.

The original full retirement age was bumped up to 67 (for all people born after 1960) under the Reagan administration. Thanks to demographic changes, we're gonna have to bump it up again. If it keeps the system alive another +40 years....that's a wise step to take. At the end of the day, a failure of Social Security is perhaps the single greatest threat to the social stability of the USA. For that reason, there WILL be some kind of sovereign guarantee to some portion of retirement monies.....for the same reasons it was established in the first place. Ergo, the only practical solution is to extend retirement age for people born after a certain date in probably the 2000-2010 time frame.

The only other solution is to simply privatize it as you suggest. I am philosophically in favor of that, but it is a mixed bag, too. As Sowell said, there are no solutions....only tradeoffs. Will Congress trust the average high school grad to manage their money well? Start problem "solving problems" from there and you could end up with any of several different kinds of leviathans of equal or greater threat than the diminished returns you cited. If the prospect of a combination of Larry Fink and Tony Fauci concerns you, try privatizing Social Security.....
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7:25a, 9/20/25
Interesting data from the pollster who got 2024 within tenths of a point.

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In reply to whiterock • 7:49a, 9/20/25
Using that logic just raise the retirement age to 85. I mean who doesn't want to be working in their 70s-80s. Always been my dream to work for 60 years to make sure the people below me get the money I worked for.

SS is a Ponzi scheme. Typically we put people in prison for that. Largely because it will collapse at some point.

However, I recognize that I'm a small government guy who doesn't want the government involved in anything because it ruins essentially 100% of the stuff it touches. I would be perfectly happy if the government handled the military and not much else.
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In reply to Assassin • 11:57a, 9/20/25
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Everyone has gotta love this guy. Thank you for your continuing service!


Perfect example of why we don't need guys like this policing our streets.
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Assassin said:
Everyone has gotta love this guy. Thank you for your continuing service!


Perfect example of why we need guys like this policing our streets.

FIFY.

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In reply to whiterock • 1:09p, 9/20/25
whiterock said:
Porteroso said:
whiterock said:
Oldbear83 said:
"Unprecedented"?

Were you in a coma 2021-23?


he's just doing what lefties do....making stuff up to justify feeling the way he feels. Carr took no action to do anything regarding Kimmel's comments. Here merely observed, verbally, on a podcast that the affiliates had the ability to do what they ultimately did - remove inflammatory programming that offended viewers.

Look carefully at the facts here:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/18/media/brendan-carr-jimmy-kimmel-fcc-first-amendment

I wonder what Porter said that time Twitter and others kicked a sitting US President off their platforms during the homestretch of an election over inflammatory speech

He threatened their broadcasting license. Trump has since threatened the broadcasting licenses of any network that talks bad about him.

No, he did not use his power as a regulator to force anyone to do anything about Kimmel's comments. Have you seen anything other than his own generic comment on the podcast as a source? Even any off-the-record comments from officials from ABC or affiliates? Why is that? Because the affiliates dumped the show due to Kimmel's not just unprofessional but incredibly untimely comments, which in turn forced ABC's hand to dump an already unprofitable show in long term ratings decline.

To the extent that fear of what regulators might do had an impact in decisions of either affiliates or network....tell me: do you normally drive the speed limit, or at least close enough to it to avoid getting a ticket? Do you pump your brakes when you see a Highway Patrol car? Ever had a HiPo look at you and flash his lights for a second as he passed you? Did you slow down?

NYT:

On Wednesday Brendan Carr, the chairman of the F.C.C., publicly condemned Mr. Kimmel's remarks as "truly sick" and hinted at possible regulatory action against ABC. Speaking on a right-wing podcast, he warned that the network could "do this the easy or hard way," signaling serious consequences if it didn't respond.
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In reply to Osodecentx • 1:13p, 9/20/25
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Porteroso said:
whiterock said:
Oldbear83 said:
"Unprecedented"?

Were you in a coma 2021-23?


he's just doing what lefties do....making stuff up to justify feeling the way he feels. Carr took no action to do anything regarding Kimmel's comments. Here merely observed, verbally, on a podcast that the affiliates had the ability to do what they ultimately did - remove inflammatory programming that offended viewers.

Look carefully at the facts here:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/18/media/brendan-carr-jimmy-kimmel-fcc-first-amendment

I wonder what Porter said that time Twitter and others kicked a sitting US President off their platforms during the homestretch of an election over inflammatory speech

He threatened their broadcasting license. Trump has since threatened the broadcasting licenses of any network that talks bad about him.

No, he did not use his power as a regulator to force anyone to do anything about Kimmel's comments. Have you seen anything other than his own generic comment on the podcast as a source? Even any off-the-record comments from officials from ABC or affiliates? Why is that? Because the affiliates dumped the show due to Kimmel's not just unprofessional but incredibly untimely comments, which in turn forced ABC's hand to dump an already unprofitable show in long term ratings decline.

To the extent that fear of what regulators might do had an impact in decisions of either affiliates or network....tell me: do you normally drive the speed limit, or at least close enough to it to avoid getting a ticket? Do you pump your brakes when you see a Highway Patrol car? Ever had a HiPo look at you and flash his lights for a second as he passed you? Did you slow down?

NYT:

On Wednesday Brendan Carr, the chairman of the F.C.C., publicly condemned Mr. Kimmel's remarks as "truly sick" and hinted at possible regulatory action against ABC. Speaking on a right-wing podcast, he warned that the network could "do this the easy or hard way," signaling serious consequences if it didn't respond.

He's also launched formal investigations of all the major networks, except Fox.
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In reply to Osodecentx • 1:15p, 9/20/25
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Porteroso said:
whiterock said:
Oldbear83 said:
"Unprecedented"?

Were you in a coma 2021-23?


he's just doing what lefties do....making stuff up to justify feeling the way he feels. Carr took no action to do anything regarding Kimmel's comments. Here merely observed, verbally, on a podcast that the affiliates had the ability to do what they ultimately did - remove inflammatory programming that offended viewers.

Look carefully at the facts here:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/18/media/brendan-carr-jimmy-kimmel-fcc-first-amendment

I wonder what Porter said that time Twitter and others kicked a sitting US President off their platforms during the homestretch of an election over inflammatory speech

He threatened their broadcasting license. Trump has since threatened the broadcasting licenses of any network that talks bad about him.

No, he did not use his power as a regulator to force anyone to do anything about Kimmel's comments. Have you seen anything other than his own generic comment on the podcast as a source? Even any off-the-record comments from officials from ABC or affiliates? Why is that? Because the affiliates dumped the show due to Kimmel's not just unprofessional but incredibly untimely comments, which in turn forced ABC's hand to dump an already unprofitable show in long term ratings decline.

To the extent that fear of what regulators might do had an impact in decisions of either affiliates or network....tell me: do you normally drive the speed limit, or at least close enough to it to avoid getting a ticket? Do you pump your brakes when you see a Highway Patrol car? Ever had a HiPo look at you and flash his lights for a second as he passed you? Did you slow down?

NYT:

On Wednesday Brendan Carr, the chairman of the F.C.C., publicly condemned Mr. Kimmel's remarks as "truly sick" and hinted at possible regulatory action against ABC. Speaking on a right-wing podcast, he warned that the network could "do this the easy or hard way," signaling serious consequences if it didn't respond.

I think the key here is that Disney/ABC already wanted to get rid of Kimmel, he was shedding advertisers like his dandruff. His ratings were plummeting and Disney/ABC get paid by the Advertisers based on ratings
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In reply to Assassin • 1:29p, 9/20/25
Assassin said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Porteroso said:
whiterock said:
Oldbear83 said:
"Unprecedented"?

Were you in a coma 2021-23?


he's just doing what lefties do....making stuff up to justify feeling the way he feels. Carr took no action to do anything regarding Kimmel's comments. Here merely observed, verbally, on a podcast that the affiliates had the ability to do what they ultimately did - remove inflammatory programming that offended viewers.

Look carefully at the facts here:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/18/media/brendan-carr-jimmy-kimmel-fcc-first-amendment

I wonder what Porter said that time Twitter and others kicked a sitting US President off their platforms during the homestretch of an election over inflammatory speech

He threatened their broadcasting license. Trump has since threatened the broadcasting licenses of any network that talks bad about him.

No, he did not use his power as a regulator to force anyone to do anything about Kimmel's comments. Have you seen anything other than his own generic comment on the podcast as a source? Even any off-the-record comments from officials from ABC or affiliates? Why is that? Because the affiliates dumped the show due to Kimmel's not just unprofessional but incredibly untimely comments, which in turn forced ABC's hand to dump an already unprofitable show in long term ratings decline.

To the extent that fear of what regulators might do had an impact in decisions of either affiliates or network....tell me: do you normally drive the speed limit, or at least close enough to it to avoid getting a ticket? Do you pump your brakes when you see a Highway Patrol car? Ever had a HiPo look at you and flash his lights for a second as he passed you? Did you slow down?

NYT:

On Wednesday Brendan Carr, the chairman of the F.C.C., publicly condemned Mr. Kimmel's remarks as "truly sick" and hinted at possible regulatory action against ABC. Speaking on a right-wing podcast, he warned that the network could "do this the easy or hard way," signaling serious consequences if it didn't respond.

I think the key here is that Disney/ABC already wanted to get rid of Kimmel, he was shedding advertisers like his dandruff. His ratings were plummeting and Disney/ABC get paid by the Advertisers based on ratings


Then why does FCC commissioner threaten ABC?
He made Kimmel a martyr on the free speech alter?
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In reply to Osodecentx • 2:55p, 9/20/25
Osodecentx said:
Assassin said:
Osodecentx said:
whiterock said:
Porteroso said:
whiterock said:
Oldbear83 said:
cial "Unprecedented"?

Were you in a coma 2021-23?


he's just doing what lefties do....making stuff up to justify feeling the way he feels. Carr took no action to do anything regarding Kimmel's comments. Here merely observed, verbally, on a podcast that the affiliates had the ability to do what they ultimately did - remove inflammatory programming that offended viewers.

Look carefully at the facts here:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/18/media/brendan-carr-jimmy-kimmel-fcc-first-amendment

I wonder what Porter said that time Twitter and others kicked a sitting US President off their platforms during the homestretch of an election over inflammatory speech

He threatened their broadcasting license. Trump has since threatened the broadcasting licenses of any network that talks bad about him.

No, he did not use his power as a regulator to force anyone to do anything about Kimmel's comments. Have you seen anything other than his own generic comment on the podcast as a source? Even any off-the-record comments from officials from ABC or affiliates? Why is that? Because the affiliates dumped the show due to Kimmel's not just unprofessional but incredibly untimely comments, which in turn forced ABC's hand to dump an already unprofitable show in long term ratings decline.

To the extent that fear of what regulators might do had an impact in decisions of either affiliates or network....tell me: do you normally drive the speed limit, or at least close enough to it to avoid getting a ticket? Do you pump your brakes when you see a Highway Patrol car? Ever had a HiPo look at you and flash his lights for a second as he passed you? Did you slow down?

NYT:

On Wednesday Brendan Carr, the chairman of the F.C.C., publicly condemned Mr. Kimmel's remarks as "truly sick" and hinted at possible regulatory action against ABC. Speaking on a right-wing podcast, he warned that the network could "do this the easy or hard way," signaling serious consequences if it didn't respond.

I think the key here is that Disney/ABC already wanted to get rid of Kimmel, he was shedding advertisers like his dandruff. His ratings were plummeting and Disney/ABC get paid by the Advertisers based on ratings


Then why does FCC commissioner threaten ABC?
He made Kimmel a martyr on the free speech alter?

It was a tactical error by the FCC comish. However it had nothing to do with him getting canned. He was a financial albatross
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